Matt Stoller has done tremendous work on net neutrality and educated many about its importance. He’s continuing that work at Open Left this week with a visit by Dick Durbin, who is using reader input to try and craft a national broadband strategy.
It’s an interesting experiment because it cuts the lobbyists out of the mix and takes the debate straight to the public. I know the subject may at times seem dry as sawdust but really, it’s important. Without the ability of alternative voices to get wide exposure via the internet, the flow of information will become controlled by a few gatekeepers who have proved nothing more than they are unreliable transmitters, beholden to special interests and largely disinterested in developing the informed public upon which a healthy democracy depends.
When we covered the Scooter Libby trial earlier this year we used a variety of media in order to get our message out, both print and video. As I wrote recently in the Wall Street Journal, I believe the efforts of the blogosphere to push back against distorted “poor Scooter” beltway narratives had an effect. And if it wasn’t for Arianna Huffington, Marcy Wheeler and other bloggers, there is no doubt in my mind Judy Miller would still be working at the New York Times, one of the privileged few shoveling propaganda onto the heads of an angry and mistrustful public. Is that really the world we want to live in?
I hope you’ll stop by Open Left and leave some comments for Senator Durbin. He’ll be stopping by at 7pm ET (4pm FDL) to read and answer them, so please take a ride on the toobz and make some noise. Don’t let the Mike McCurrys of the world be the only ones whose voices get heard.
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Zed!!
“…takes the debate straight to the public.”
;0)
Double Gitmo(so it can hold all the Republicans)!!
You must be feeling well today. You are on fire with your posts. Thanks for all of the work that you do.
Jane,
Judy may be gone, but Michael Gordon is still there.
How could I forget … even though it is a day early …
Happy Birthday Jane !!!!!!!!!!!!
Jane writes:
1. I never thought I would see you be able to write that.
2. Good thing you got your chance before Rupert slams the door.
Joe Klein’s conscience @ 6
Tomorrow’s Jane’s birthday? Well, we’re all just going to have to call her up and sing Happy Birthday!
;-)
Joe Klein’s conscience @ 5
Progress, not perfection.
Yow, a Leo letting the sun shine in.
Happy Birthday Jane from sunny cawliforya!
One of the things I like about Biden is his condemnation of “retail politics”. I’m not talking about the man, I’m speaking of the idea. I realize Senator Biden takes money from interest groups. And Mr. Biden is not my choice to be the next president.
I was thinking today that the analogy of a highway is not really the best-fitting for the internet. It is really more like a civic center. Citizens would be outraged if they had to pay–individually–to step foot in the library or attend a town-hall meeting. We provide these things collectively. THIS is what we should be doing with the internet–jointly sharing the burden of electronic library and meeting services.
I think Leo’s are OK. How do I think this? Because Lahoma’s one. And so am I. ;0)
CNN is running that fucking soda story again. Just shoot me.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 11
I’m not sure what would have to happen for Biden to get the nomination, but it would have to be pretty horrific and involve a lot of unforeseen carnage. Possibly an asteroid strike at a candidate gathering in Iowa. Something weird. How did we end up with Dukakis?
The junior Senator from IL should hang out with the senior a bit more.
He could learn somethiing.
(or maybe not)
Ah, Jane. You’re beautiful when you’re pissed.
If Abu lied again, they’d have had to clear-cut another old-growth forest to make him a new nose.
Impeachy stuff, n’cest pas?
Jane Hamsher @ 14
The fat people like fattening snacks story? The one they run right after the fish like water story?
mc @ 8
Anyone want to chip in for mariachis?
Jane Hamsher @ 14
Gawd it’s frustrating.
Jane Hamsher @ 14
jane, Ot but since you’ve been to Yankees games, I thought that you might be familiar with Jon Lester’s come back last night for the Red Sox.. Now that’s truly a feel good story.
Sam Waterston on Tweety promoting the Unity party.. I like the idea of dueling DLC’s which is what the Unity idea looks like to me.
Laura Doty,
That’s a very good analogy.
Did you all read Krugman’s column yesterday about how the French, Germans & Japanese have left the U.S. in the dust as far as the Internet is concerned? Since I have access to it, here’s a goodly portion: (nice zingger at the end)
I wish Lindsey Lohan or Britney Spears would do their patriotic duty and end this constitutional crisis by engaging in some kind of impeachable sexual activity with Gonzales. Or Bush. Or Cheney.
Overly publicized skanks! Paris Hilton! America needs you! Use your skank powers for good instead of evil!
Tried to sign on to Open Left did not get a confirmation. Can not get on to ask Durbin a question.
Just watching the AG hearing and reading the comments. Leahy and Spector are pissed!
“Walls are crumbling on the Dept of Justice” DIFI
Oklahoma kiddo @ 13
That’s gotta get heated sometimes…my dad’s leo as is my best friend.
Kathleen @ 26
i had the same problem. signed up with open left on the first day…. no confirmation email, even though my id seems to have taken (i couldn’t re-sign up). requested an additional email… still nothing… and yes, i’ve checked my spam filter. :(
cleter @ 25
707!
OT – I can’t get on to The Next Hurrah, either from Firefox homepage or FDL link above. Anyone else having same problem?
Well Happy B-Day Jane,in case I miss it tommorrow in the swell of well wishes. And may there be many,many more b-days to come.
eCAHNomics @ 24
You know, it has occurred to me that the whole world is looking better on many, many fronts than the US right now…
I never thought the US was perfect, but I thought we were pretty good on balance. No more.
Redefining torture, jesus.
Oh, yeah. HBD, Ms. Hamsher. :)
selise @ 29
I just tried and everything worked. (mac firefox here)
jayt @ 31
Been tryin madly -
What I like about Jane is her limitless ability to NOT HOLD BACK! Please, keep kicking their collective ass? Not enough do and the tic’s need to be retrained. I think decorum is highly overrated, and genuinely harmful to the public discourse, and happy birthday too!
My Q on the politics of net neutrality (BTW, need to reframe that. No one knows what that phrase means. Took me somework to figure it out.):
If, as Krugman points out, U.S. broaband is very inferior to what’s available elsewhere, why don’t the business that will be negatively influeced by that combine & lobby to get the system changed?
jayt @ 31
It’s worse than that – I can’t get onto gofugyourself!
janda @ 28
We rarely disagree. Perhaps that’s because I think she’s smarter than me. And plus she can always keep me calm when she says kiddo, “lets perhaps explore the fact that you might be going over the top”. And of course we’ve loved each since we were teenagers. ;0)
John Deans latest on Joe and Valerie Wilson
As always worth the read
http://writ.news.findlaw.com/dean/20070724.html
Happy BIrthday Jane!
eCAHNomics @ 24
Ahh. Michael Powell.
When the draft comes back, he needs to be near the front of the line.
Because, in 2013, we’ll need just a few more good men to help train the Iraqi Army.
Jane Hamsher @ 14
Ah, but that was yesterday’s news. All of MSM is on 24-hour tape delay with script… your thinking is so avant-garde, Jane.
Reporting, in depth, on news on the same day it happens? That’s so….bloggian.
allen_in_upstate
Ya gotta luv Krugman.
BTW, which state are you up in?
eCAHNomics @ 44
There is only ONE upstate.
Local pride would dictate that I use in_western_ny,
but I don’t have any.
Prospective on guns and home invasions:
England has very restrictive gun laws, yet England’s rates of assault, robbery, and burglary are far higher than America’s, and 53 percent of English burglaries occur while occupants are at home, compared with 13 percent in the U.S., where burglars admit to fearing armed homeowners more
than the police.
With regard to the Krugman article, one could argue the same point with cell phone service as well. Europe is light years ahead of us.
I have been thinking about all sorts of areas of technology such as automobiles and alternative fuels for example. How much has corporate interests stymied the progress of different forms of transportation and alternative fuels by their efforts to control congress and laws that favor the status quo?
cleter @ 25
Spew alert please…Pino Grigio through the nose is NOT a pleasant sensation.
jayt @ 31
I’ve been having problems this afternoon using internet explorer.
Oh my effin G, the Obama girl and the Hill girl – Matthews is flirting with Hill’s girl.
He just told the girls he’s a reporter – right.
allan_in_upstate @ 45
That’s why I asked. I never heard that usage from any other state. I live in NYC now, but grew up in Buffalo & my brother & his 4 grown kids live in Fairport.
Allan in upstate, Michael Powell served in the army and was injured in a jeep accident and released.
Eureka Springs @ 22
For my money, the wrong cast member of Law & Order is in politics right now. Waterston would be a great catch for any party. I love that commercial for The Nation when he says, No corporate spin, No Murdoch, just the straight dope. Being a fan of Jack Maddog McCoy, I am a bit biased, but Waterston is a class act.
JPL @ 51
So he’s experienced. We need men like him now. Send him to Iraq.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 40
Good for you! Sounds like y’all have it figured out.
Boston1775 @ 49
MSM answer to the Youtube debate last night–Let’s make fun of Youtube by exploiting these whores for political gain
Boston1775 @ 50
Tweety is a jock sniffer and you can tell him I said it.
Eureka Springs @ 35
When I check into Openlefts accounts I have one but still have not received an e-mail. Where do you go to ask questions?
#31, 39
‘can’t find server’ from IE; LiveJournal is apparently also down.
Get Tough @ 52
And Waterston long ago realized the threat that evil robots pose to our senior citizens–a threat none of the candidates in last night’s debate were willing to acknowledge.
Plus, he was the voice of Lincoln in the Ken Burns Civil War series.
PLovering @ 46
A friend of mine, who is a LEO, told me if someone broke into the house and I shot them, to make sure they weren’t breathing before I called the police.
Listening to the AG hearing how many lies can AG tell? You can tell Leahy, Spector, DiFi etc want to ring this guys neck. They want Gonzales on sodium pentathol
I thought Senator Ben Cardin zeroed in on some issues. “Appropriate context”
Kathleen, I just clicked on create account, top right of the page, iirc. It’s no longer there since creation was completed. also noticed a contact link at the top.. you may have to try that.
eCAHNomics @ 51
We are in the northernmost, most liberal town in NY-29.
Randy ” Guns Are Fun At Christmas Dinners” Kuhl is
unfortunately our congressman, although not for long.
I am waiting impatiently now, for my party to do something.
JPL @ 52
My apologies.
He has always given the impression of someone who had life handed to him on a platter.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 11
I agree. This is an important thing to garner from the candidates available to choose from – Maybe not all ideas can be agreed with, but some are important and should be debated more openly. For example, campaign finance reform.
The Democrats need to listen. Progressive liberals are not out of synch with your base.
It’s time to ask why today’s hearing was only shown on CSPAN-3.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 64
Me too. What would Gonzales have to do to get impeached? Eat a live puppy on TV? Strangle Patrick Leahy with his wee doughy hands? What?
Boston1775 @ 69
It was originally on Cspan 2.
the replay was on 3.
BAGHDAD, July 23 — While Washington is mired in political debate over the future of Iraq, the American command here has prepared a detailed plan that foresees a significant American role for the next two years.
Bustednuckles @ 71
I was directed to the hearing on CSPAN-3, the live hearing.
allan_in_upstate @ 64
So you live in the Finger Lakes region. Beautiful area. Went to the Curtiss Museum about a month ago. Very interesting.
Anyway, what I’m getting at is that it appears that nobody in news watched the hearing. They appear oblivious.
Boston1775 @ 74
Newshour is covering it now.
cleter @ 69
I am thinking that we may see some more requests for Docs from the DoJ regarding the May 2006 memo. And then I hope that the SJC will call Abu back to the hill to “explain” the context behind this memo, which would hopefully become the point at which we will be treated to the shameful spectacle of the Attorney General of the United States invoking his 5th amendment rights in order to avoid self-incrimination.
It is time to appoint a special prosecutor to investigate perjury and obstruction of justice. Because that is where the May 2006 memo leads. I can’t wait to see what Marcy digs up on this…
1,587 DAYZ AND THE KILLIN’ GOEZ ON AND ON AND..
Citizen oklahoma kiddo:
Brother kiddo, you do indeed have it all figured out…I been pretty smug since I bamboozled Mrs. Norske into puttin’ my shit in order but sounds like you got as lucky as I did. But Lahoma’s support fer Mrs. Clinton scars me…my 83 year old mother who was a Democratic Party activist fer 40 years and Mrs. Norske don’t have any time fer a woman candidate who would triangulate the struggle for women’s’ rights right outta the constitution.
We need Big Al in the race by Labor Day.
KEEP THE FAITH AND PASS THE AMMUNITION…THERE’S A LOTTA FIGHT LEFT IN THE BASTARDS!!
Boston1775 @ 69
Where else did you expect it to be? C-SPAN is reserved for the House when it’s in session, similarly the Senate on C-SPAN2, and both werein session today. I hope you don’t expect CNN to show it live!
I am at a loss to understand how things are going to change until radical changes are made to campaign financing.
janda @ 28
Leos are the greatest. My mother and dad, sister, brother, best friend, mr. brat and my favorite doctor are all Leos. This old Pisces just couldn’t ask for more.
Happy Birthday beautiful and fearless Jane!
Oklahoma kiddo @ 80
Yep.
The best one-liner I’ve ever heard on this subject comes from Jon Stewart (who else!):
eCAHNomics @ 79
Still listening. Leahy “The AG does not have my trust”
Jane Hamsher @ 14
Oh, Jane. You should have flipped it over to MSNBC and watched something more relevant. Like 60 year old Chris Matthews drooling over 25 year old “Hil Girl” ; )
eCAHNomics @ 79
Bill Moyers said that PBS came about in response to Watergate hearings. I’m looking for a place more accessible than CSPAN-3. I have to go to CSPAN and find CSPAN-3. No channel surfing to allow someone to come upon it. PBS needs to step up and show these most important hearings or they are not doing their job.
Senator Leahy almost makes me believe in this country.
The reality on the ground shakes that belief up real fast.
I thought the Codepink people were effective today. I do not like when they sit right behind the witness, this takes their actions over the top!
Boston1775 @ 85
Aaah. So it’s change you want. Well, that’s what we’re trying to make happen here.
NorskeFlamethrower…
Lahoma does not necessarily support Senator Clinton for president. She and I are moving closer together on our preference. Let me say, nothing has changed in my view that Gore would be the best choice. If anything, my support for Gore is stronger than it was, say, day before yesterday. ;0)!
What’s going on with blogs out there is this:
P J Evans @ 90
Can’t get to Marcy’s place.
P J Evans @ 90
Is this why TNH is down?
Leahy to Gonzales “How about just be fair to the truth”
Did anyone else notice how many
childrenRegent’s U. alumni were in Abu’s entourage today?My toobz are hinky up here out of Portland.
Having to hard refresh to keep up with comments.
Other sites are way slow too.
cathy @ 47
Europe is just such a civilized place. They’ve been at it longer, I suppose, plus the self-selection of the ones who left & ended up here are the ones who didn’t like it there. Did you ever think about the inherently negative characterisitics of settler countries?
jayt @ 31
I think it’s a Typepad problem.
Bustednuckles @ 94
The telecoms are trying to block Durbin’s appeal to the netroots.
Kathleen @ 93
That should have been the headline from today’s hearing not “Gonzales denies pressuring Ashcroft”. It is not objective reporting to print obvious lies.
randiego @ 92
Cuz she has some really good stuff??? I had it up from earlier, and could see that the next title was something Cheney. When I clicked it, xxxxxxxxxx.
I can’t even register on open left. Keep getting this: Invalid username/password
Daschle, one of the Gang of 8 sez that Abu is a liar.
cathy @ 47
A lot.
This has been another episode of simple answers to simple questions.
eCAHNomics @ 101
Did you register, CAHN?
Woodhall Hollow @ 101
Whoops. LINK.
Woodhall Hollow @ 102
Link?
eCAHNomics @ 88
You know eCAHN, I’ve been thinking about what’s wrong with what you said. I just want back what I used to have: a public informed.
JK at 96 seems to right about Marcy’s blog, because I can’t link to the Big Picture either, which is also Typepad
Loo Hoo. @ 104
When I tried to register, it wouldn’t let me. I tried to use eCAHNomics as a username. Is there a problem with that, do you think? I tried both numeric & alpha passwords, both short & longer.
Can you imagine if the Internet (blogs, etc) went down these days. It would be frightening!
Set up your soup cans and strings. We know we can not rely on the MSM. I would like to take a class in smoke signals.
Gonzales belongs to the Gang of Apes.
-GSD
P.S. CNN to boot Paula Zahn, bringing in Campbell Brown, wife of CPA flack-hack Dan Senor.
Apparently Zahns’ ratings merited the boot, yet Glenn Beck remains.
Whitehouse ripped he wants the documents. This group is disgusted with the AG
Typepad is part of 6Apart so yeah, it’s flaky until the power gets stabilized again.
This is a really good day to not be in SF.
Boston1775
I think the U.S. public has never been well informed. There have certainly been times when the leaders were more intelligent & tried hard to communicate more than our current lot, but that’s a different conversation than what channel the AGAG hearings were on.
OT – for anyone who missed today’s gonzales SJC hearing… i’ve posted an mp3 here. old posting of the comey SJC hearing is here.
Some very inteligent people commenting over at OpenLeft.
Their comments are really fascinating; what a great model, to reach out to the really bright people on the web about the web! I like Senator Durbin.
Loo Hoo. @ 107
http://www.tpmmuckraker.com/archives/003768.php
Lahoma says to say; “though I am brown outside, I am green inside. Therefore, for this and other reasons I support Mr. Gore to be our next president”.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 119
ReElect President Gore & VP Edwards 2008!
eCAHNomics @ 110
I tried to register, forgetting that I already had. Just thinking maybe you did too?
My feedback to Dick Durbin would be to support the “Google Rules” on the upcoming auction of bandwidth licensing. If AT&T has a problem with it, you can bet that the Google Rules are a good thing, and it’s a start into breaking the stranglehold of the telsatcos on what is supposed to be a publicly owned commons.
I’d also tell Dick Durbin to look more closely into past attempts to bring pervasive wireless to the marketplace; the telsatcos have already killed off one viable, highly affordable technology, burying it in committee in Congress (thank you Barbara Comstock, you b*tch). They are killing off our innovative edge in the cradle, in order to avoid the inevitable death of their existing business model. This is a national security issue, in my thinking; we cannot afford to lag the rest of the world for lack of better, faster cheaper technology that is American-made simply because aging business giants cannot bear to face the future.
GSD @ 112
Paula Zahn Will Leave CNN
OT..
FOX NEWS labels Arlen Specter a Democrat!
http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/07…..-democrat/
Specter is a snake..we don’t want him either.
Steve-AR @ 124
707!
Senator Durbin wants an honest open discussion about the internet, lets start with copper wire vs. fiber optics and the criminal fleecing of US taxpayers. “Clinton-Gore Administration called for a “National Infrastructure Initiative” to upgrade American homes, offices, schools and libraries with a fiber-optic network that would replace the older copper wiring…the Bell companies made very promising statements about their commitment to fiber-optic networks. (The original Bells were Ameritech, Bell Atlantic, BellSouth, NYNEX, Pacific Telesis, Southwestern Bell, and US West. They also controlled various states’ telecommunications infrastructure. GTE and SNET were other notable local phone companies.)…The speed of these broadband connections was to be 45 Mbps in both directions, a speed that could handle high-definition TV without serious distortions.
Here’s the kicker:In order to pay for these new networks, the phone companies lobbied state governments for financial incentives to upgrade their fiber-optic plants. The plans vary by state, but the methods used were similar: increased rates for certain services and tax breaks. In addition, “rate-of-return” regulation—laws which monitored phone-company profits—were replaced with either price caps or alternative regulations….Customers paid an estimated $200 billion for networks they never received. America is 16th in broadband because the Bell companies didn’t deliver.
http://www.niemanwatchdog.org/…..thisid=186
Leahy “crack cocaine in the poorer neighborhoods” “powdered cocaine on yachts and in board rooms”
We certainly know that those caught with crack cocaine will do far more time behind bars than those in the Bush administration who outed a CIA undercover agent, any of the AG Liars, and those who created and dessiminated false Wmd intelligence that has resulted in hundreds of thousands of deaths, injured and displaced.
How in the hell can anyone wonder why there is no respect for our justice system in this country or around the world? How?
Loo Hoo. @ 121
Great thought, but it appears not to be the case. I have no memory of having done it, but tried anyhow, hitting on the forgot password button. Got this Message: Sorry, that email address and/or username are not registered.
“Once again he’s making up something to protect himself and creating situations that never happened,” Rockefeller said, adding that “based on what I know about it, I’d have to say” Gonzales has committed perjury.
http://www.time.com/time/polit…..14,00.html
RockPaperScizzors @ 126
I can’t seem to get registered on open left, so could you please make sure that Durbin & all others have read yesterday’s Krugman column? I posted a large section @ 24.
I have to think the worst Senator of the bunch is Lieberman.
CSPAN-3 is not Channel 2 when I was a teenager and I found myself watching one of four major channels. I got caught, by real life politics and government, and it changed my life.
I have to tell my son what I watched today because there is no way in hell he would have turned to it, or just stumbled over it. That’s a loss, a true loss.
Power went out at my client’s office building six (*!*) times this afternoon; they told us it was PG&E’s fault and would continue all afternoon.
Loo Hoo. @ 121
found it the e-mail from open left went into my junk mail file.
OT: If you’ve not seen it, I strongly recommend Glenn Greenwald’s article on John Yoo that he posted today.
AZ Matt @ 106
Hey, why invest in infrastructure and do that whole boring regulated utility bit?
Deregulation – that’s the future.
I would have commented earlier but I had to wait for the power to come back on in clinic.
Is Marcy’s blog somehow connected to the SF power problems?
Most lobbyists I’ve met really aren’t my type.
TeddySanFran @ 133
With all the rain we’ve had up here recently, I know damn good and well Bonneville Dam is cranking out the juice.
Somebody not pay the bill?
Or is it a grid problem?
The Next Hurrah is back up.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 131
I think the most dishonest Senator going. When he stood on the Senate floor during the slumber party and repeated the most obvious lies about 9/11 and Al Queda, and inferred that Al Queda was in Iraq before we invaded, and repeated numerous times unsubstantiated claims about Iran….The hook should have come out.
We should not have to tolerate such outrageous and blatant lies.
So much for the September deadline and the Petraeus report. NYT stenographer Michael Gordon reports that Petraeus is planning to keep large numbers of American troops in Iraq for 2 more years.
BTW this is Gordon’s typical MO: unnamed sources leaking “classified” material that favors the Administration’s case. I see it more as a reason why Generals Petraeus and Odierno and Ambassador Crocker should be fired. These are partisans who are not going to let something as trivial as reality get in the way of them playing Risk with the lives of American soldiers. They already know that they have failed with regard to the September deadline. The security situation remains dicey and any short term gains are temporary without a political settlement. And not only is there no political settlement there has been no progress on one. So what’s their solution for the deadline? Ignore it. Push on from Friedman unit to Friedman unit. The problem is that Congressional Republicans are getting cold feet looking at 2008 and even Mitch McConnell has drawn the line at September. What we are seeing is a replay of generals who are so deeply invested in a failed cause that they are willing to destroy their own credibility and that of the military holding on to it, just as their predecessors did in Viet Nam.
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/07…..ref=slogin
Laura Doty @ 12
Yep, it’s a commons. It was developed by communities but is being hijacked.
Boston1775 @ 132
I guess there was a short moment in history when Americans got their news from the cartel of 3, and, under govt regulation, they were more responsible about the news. There was lots of other good stuff going on in the 60s too.
“The memo widened White House access to case information even more and seemed to have been crafted with special attention to enabling the Vice President’s staff, specifically his chief of staff and counsel, to have the unambiguous authority to discuss ongoing cases with Department officials. Given Cheney’s chief of staff David Addington’s extraordinary reach into the Justice Department (and the prosecution of Cheney’s former chief of staff), that’s cause for a raised eyebrow.”
http://www.tpmmuckraker.com/archives/003767.php
Kathleen @ 111
A really simple cheap alternative are the old (10-15 years) BBS systems. Use dial-up phone lines and modem banks.
Lousy for graphics – adequate for multi user, multi-thread text exchange.
And the “technology” (BBS system gear) is dirt cheap…filling bins of surplus electronics/computer gear. The publication “boardwatch” followed the BBS world ’til the net arrived….
but the concepts and gear are absurdly simple.
A good resource to have on hand if we wake up one day with no (or limited) net.
AZ Matt @ 107
Arena?
TeddySanFran @ 133
And to think that the Cali power grid is run out of the little old town of Folsom. I went to grade school in Folsom.
Kathleen @ 127
When Republican politicians get caught molesting young boys or distributing cocaine they deny everything and then check in to a country club-like rehabilitation center. Like GOP congressional child predator Mark Foley, South Carolina Treasurer/Giuliani state chairman Thomas Ravenel checked himself into the pricey, luxurious Sierra Tucson Center in Catalina, Arizona. Normal people would be thrown in jail but both of these are powerful southern politicians. Their only relationship to laws is making them, not being held accountable to them. This morning, rested and refreshed, 30 days after his coke bust, Ravenel makes his court debut. “Ravenel’s attorneys entered a not guilty plea for the 44-year-old multimillionaire developer earlier this month. He is charged with possession with intent to distribute less than 500 grams of cocaine… If convicted, Ravenel faces up to 20 years in prison and a $1 million fine.” No one thinks he will be.”
http://downwithtyranny.blogspo…..-mess.html
O/T but I think I called it on today’s headline:
Gonzo vows to fix himself, well, not quite
Oklahoma kiddo @ 148
Ken Lay lives…
Kathleen @ 141
I believe that Mr. Lieberman has interests other than those of the United States.
eCAHNomics @ 144
I’m sad. Our times were better. Hope I’m wrong and I’m just psychologically exhausted.
The Yellow bellied Kristol has the nerve to talk about Cindy Sheehan and the troops
Kristol demonstrates all the signs of a true psychopath. He feels no shame, does not have a conscience, and could not recognize the truth if his own relatives lives depended on it.(well I bet he would recognize the truth then)!
http://www.weeklystandard.com/…..1rhkhq.asp
@ 149..That is a Howie Klein quote…FF dropped that line..
wigwam @ 135
Thanks for that, Wigwam.
Where do all neocon roads lead?
Daschle and Rockefeller say Abu was makin shit up today about the Gang of Eight pressing him to get Ashcroft’s approval so that the program could continue. Have we heard from Harman or Pelosi?
Upstairs:
http://www.firedoglake.com/200…..bu-a-liar/
OT, on the tarted up and dumbed down CBS Evening News with perky Katie Couric the lead story was the 200 point fall on the market. No. 2 was the scandals in the sporting world. No. 3 was the number of registered sex offenders on MySpace. No. 4 a cursory look at Gonzo’s testimony. Our MSM serving the powers that be.
SCHUMER: Well, wait a minute, sir. Sir, with all due respect — and if I could have some order here, Mr. Chairman — in all due respect, you’re just saying, “Well, it was clarified with the reporter,” and you don’t even know what he said. You don’t even know what the clarification is. Sir, how can you say that you should stay on as attorney general when we go through exercise like this, where you’re bobbing and weaving and ducking to avoid admitting that you deceived the committee? And now you don’t even know. I’ll give you another chance: You’re hanging your hat on the fact that you clarified the statement two days later. You’re now telling us that is was a spokesperson who did it. What did that spokesperson say? Tell me now, how do you clarify this?
GONZALES: I don’t know, but I’ll find out and get back to you.
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do-si-do @ 151
wouldn’t surprise me
eCAHNomics @ 128
Perhaps you fell into the potential Republican filter :-?
TeddySanFran @ 133
Too bad we don’t have Enron to blame anymore.
/snark