Sen. Pete Domenici (R-New Mexico): I have listened carefully to the
arguments of the House Managers and the counter-arguments by the White
House counsel during this impeachment trial. I have taken seriously my
oath to render impartial justice.

While the legal nuances offered by both sides were interesting and
essential, I kept thinking as I sat listening that the most obvious
and important but unstated question was: What standard of conduct
should we insist our President live up to?

Only by taking into account this question do I believe that we in the
Senate can properly interpret our Founding Fathers’ impeachment
criteria comprised of “bribery, treason or other high crimes and
misdemeanors.” Clearly, the Constitution recognizes that a President
may be impeached not only for bribery and treason, but also for other
actions that destroy the underlying integrity of the Presidency or the
“equal justice for all” guarantee of the Judiciary.

rest @ http://tinyurl.com/33oqzg

if Conyers really does believe that “elections are the only recourse” then bad on him.

Within ONE COMMENT THREAD the rumor of what he said has gone from

‘Elections may be your ‘best’ recourse.’

to ‘the only recourse.’

And a new leftist myth is established.

G’damn Chairman Conyers for saying things he never said and not doing what he is doing, and not doing it on an activist calendar that has no politics attached to it. Shit, you don’t even have to treat the Speaker or the Chairman with respect! You can just wing it and hope to shame them as if they were guilty for these policies (which they are NOT).

It is possible that GSM Sheehan requested arrest. We don’t know all the facts. But GSM’s threats against Pelosi’s seat were a real brainy move, and this may have been another.

Just got back from the bank where a car had this HUGE sign on the back of the trunk: “Still Registered REPUBLICAN? If so, you share bloody blame for lies•war crimes•corruption•wasted lives $, torture: SHAME!”
I took a pic on my cell phone and sent it to my reps (all Dems)

Looks like we’re hitting the tipping point….

Nationally yes, but how about in the states where the Republican senators won’t end the war in Iraq and very likely would stick together to protect Bush & Cheney?

I wonder if the Democrats represent a difference without a distinction vs the Republicans.

They appear to be acting in a manner that will solidify their political power now and in the short term. Isn’t this exactly how the Republicans have been acting?

I won’t lie. There could easily be some Dems who really like the idea of consolidating power. It’s only human to want to sustain the position they’ve gotten, perhaps improving it some.

But, as I understand it, this is what’s happened: the Republicans decided to block everything productive (such as impeaching and kicking out Cheney & Bush) in the Senate and the Dems are responding by forcing them to declare their position more vocally and for the American public to hear, so that the Senate Repubs will be shown for what they are and so they’ll have to make a choice to support Bush fully and in public or to move away from Bush to support the public, America and the Constitution.

Is that bad?

How else could Dems have moved the ball forward? If the Senate Repubs could convince the public that it was the Senate Dems who were somehow failures or were playing politics, then the Senate Repub lies would win the day. All the Dems are doing is showing up the Repubs to disclose their hypocrisy and to prevent the public from being manipulated with lies.

Is there a problem with that?

IMO, It’s the right thing for the Country to get past Bush & Co and if we have to expose lies and hypocrisy from the Congressional Republicans, then so be it.

IMPEACH CHIMPEA IMPEACH CHIMPEA
IMPEACH CHIMPEA IMPEACH CHIMPEA

IMPEACH CHIMPY IMPEACH CHIMPY

This is called ‘galvanizing action’

H’yeah, the action galvanized being not letting GSM Sheehan into Conyers’ offices again.

Anyone who has ever done any federal activism understands the feel-good errors GSM Sheehan and CodePink are making. You just keep pushing and hollering, and then all of a sudden the doors don’t open any more. And then the disaffiliated — having shown their lack of respect — can feel wronged and join with others in feeling wronged together.

And none of that is effective political action.

Bush don’t need troops, hoss.

He’s already contracted Blackwater.
They are building a HUGE facility in San Diego.
They are HERE. To stay. And they are in Iraq.

You forget Katrina and their role in THAT?

They got LOTS of available stormtroopers to shoot civvie’s in the streets, and drag the rest to the detention pens.

FEARMONGERING feels so good, eh?

They are trying to build a Blackwater site at the border, and that is a problem. If you think it’s “huge,” then you know nothing about it. It’s a smallish site, maybe hold something like 400 ‘trainees.’

So you’re LYING, and fearmongering. There are NOT lots of stormtroopers, and there is NOT enough of any sort of troop to hold the country in martial law, much less Los Angeles, and the deployment of maybe 50 Blackwater during Katrina, disgusting and illegal as that was, does not make your other claims so.

Boo!

. . . . • Bushco DOES NOT have enough manpower for martial law. It would take 100,000 troops to hold down Los Angeles alone, and the cities and states are NOT going to simply go along. And, in another famous rumor, the Mexican Army is NOT available for manpower.

Fearmongering is not activism. It is hysteria.

Bush don’t need troops, hoss.

He’s already contracted Blackwater.
They are building a HUGE facility in San Diego.
They are HERE. To stay. And they are in Iraq.

You forget Katrina and their role in THAT?

They got LOTS of available stormtroopers to shoot civvie’s in the streets, and drag the rest to the detention pens.

We cannot afford to “wait for elections”– the “people” went heavily Demo. in ‘06 & what difference has it made. King Georgie’s surged and created greater destruction & the Dinos fund it!…

…The Demo’s can take down Mr. 25% (& yes, strategy is useful: go after the weak links, Gonzo & Face-Shooter Cheney, 1st, then develop the case against Chimpy) or they can continue to dither as we become a 3rd world fascist state. Hey fellow lobsters, that fire under the pot’s been gettin’ hotter & hotter. Have you noticed? Get out there and do something, and don’t rely on these gutless triangulators, or indeed there will be no pointless, phony elections in ‘08. Wake up!

Sing it, brotha!

Funny thing about the “elections” argument…people are always complaining about the negative ads, big money, and corrupt elections. Not a whole lotta debate I would guess on that.

But now we’re supposed to wait to make a change by partaking in this rigged system?!? We have to do something now, and fortunately the Founding Fathers anticipated a time such as our current Constitutional Crisis.

Although….maybe we should wait and see what Gen. Patraeus thinks about it all…in a few months…when he gets around to it. Yea that’s it, just be patient and trust our leaders. They know how Washington works, not us little people.