John Aravosis of AMERICAblog will be on CNN this morning to talk about Vitter on Howie Kurtz’s show (10am Eastern)

Good morning Christy!

Oh, I forgot – Frist!

Hi Christy, Jane, and all teh FDL regulars

Well, technically here it’s “Fitz” but welcome to the lake!

I don’t see any Democrats on the line up who might bring up impeachment. Totally disappointing. The Republicans never seem to get tired of getting their pundits on these shows to discuss terrorism and Iraq. Where are the Democrats talking about impeachment, or rebutting their bullshit on everything?

GeorgeSimian @ 5

I don’t see any Democrats on the line up who might bring up impeachment. Totally disappointing. The Republicans never seem to get tired of getting their pundits on these shows to discuss terrorism and Iraq. Where are the Democrats talking about impeachment, or rebutting their bullshit on everything?

And you are surprised?

The big corpos own the media. It is not in their interest to air the truth or anything vaguely resembling it. It is in their interest to keep the public afraid and in line.

Impeachment and inherent contempt will make the news when and if it happens. Then they won’t be able to avoid it. At that time, batten down the hatches.

GeorgeSimian @ 5

I don’t see any Democrats on the line up who might bring up impeachment. Totally disappointing. The Republicans never seem to get tired of getting their pundits on these shows to discuss terrorism and Iraq. Where are the Democrats talking about impeachment, or rebutting their bullshit on everything?

Doncha know? There is an elaborate covert operation going on right now. (do not tell Bob Novak!) Pelosi has set a trap and they’re falling right into it. We’ve got them right where we want them.

Uh, I want to believe this, but let’s just say time tells all.

RevDeb @ 6

GeorgeSimian @ 5

I don’t see any Democrats on the line up who might bring up impeachment. Totally disappointing. The Republicans never seem to get tired of getting their pundits on these shows to discuss terrorism and Iraq. Where are the Democrats talking about impeachment, or rebutting their bullshit on everything?

And you are surprised?

The big corpos own the media. It is not in their interest to air the truth or anything vaguely resembling it. It is in their interest to keep the public afraid and in line.

Impeachment and inherent contempt will make the news when and if it happens. Then they won’t be able to avoid it. At that time, batten down the hatches.

Yeah, but they have to start talking about it first. Remember how much talk there was before Libby got his commutation.

Anyway, I don’t really buy that the corporations own everything. I think it’s that the Right complains more, calls more, screams more, even though they are in the minority on most issues.

Can we just call that show on NBC what it really is? Timmeh was not a journalist before NBC hired him as a “journalist”, and no one is meeting any “press.”

Hence, Feingold on Meet the Russert today. Really curious why Russ wants to be on right now. He must have something cookin!

George,
It certainly is a combination of factors. Thom Hartmann on his show a while ago was talking about all of the commercials we see on teevee of “things we cannot buy” like the ADM commercials and in the WaPo for Raytheon or Northup Drummon. They aren’t trying to sell us anything but by spending those ad dollars they can intimidate the media to not cause ripples in their nice ponds. I hadn’t thought about that until he so glaringly pointed it out.

What just happened with JetRed and their meager contribution to YKos is indeed the wingnut factor writ large sending a warning to advertisers. Hopefully it will backfire but I won’t believe that until I see it.

As for them talking about impeachment and inherent contempt, only a few have ventured into those waters—the usual suspects. The pundits and “journalists” are too busy devouring their cocktail weenies to do their homework. My guess is when it happens they will start reporting the story with wrong information and then play catch-up.

I hope I’m wrong.

egregious @ 4

Well, technically here it’s “Fitz” but welcome to the lake!

Speaking of which–and apologies if this was posted elsewhere and I missed it–Fitz on NPR yesterday.

Among other pearls:
host: You live in the North Side, I’m told. One of our neighborhoods and you work downtown. So let me ask you, how do you feel about… commuting?
Fitz: I don’t mind driving.

bonkers @ 9

Can we just call that show on NBC what it really is? Timmeh was not a journalist before NBC hired him as a “journalist”, and no one is meeting any “press.”

Hence, Feingold on Meet the Russert today. Really curious why Russ wants to be on right now. He must have something cookin!

personally, i prefer “Meet the man owned by cheney” but i guess that is too many words?

and yeah, i just might have watch – to see feingold.

GeorgeSimian @ 8

Anyway, I don’t really buy that the corporations own everything. I think it’s that the Right complains more, calls more, screams more, even though they are in the minority on most issues.

I work “in the biz” and I very much believe that there is an orchestrated effort to first, buy up as much media as possible and second, control the message through those outlets.

I’ve been at a TV station when Rupert Murdoch decided to take it over as an O&O, and the news content changed dramatically overnight. We started getting daily faxes about preferred coveragefor the each and this determined what the newscast looked like. Our boss made sure we followed these orders.

Years later, that station is still doing the Pox Noose style, after 20 some years as the market leader doing community oriented news. Their ratings and reputation have plummeted, and have been getting domainated by the current “community-centered” station for years now.

I had a similar situation in another city except this time it was Sinclair Broadcasting, with similar results on the ratings.

It has nothing to do with ratings or public feedback. They are there for one purpose – to influence the electorate to vote in Conglomerate interests.

Christy,
I have been looking at the ABC This Week web site and I think this is the line-up:
A video interview of Hadley
A video interview of Lugar and Warner
A Dave Matthews interview on Veterans Rights
A rooundtable type bit with George Will, Sam Donaldson, Clare Shipman, and Jay Carney

Or I may be an idiot

“ABC This Week: No idea who is on because they have completely screwed up the This Week website.”

My ABC affiliate has the final round of the British Open on from 8:30am – 1:30pm, then an Indy car race.

dakine01 @ 14

Christy,
I have been looking at the ABC This Week web site and I think this is the line-up:
A video interview of Hadley
A video interview of Lugar and Warner
A Dave Matthews interview on Veterans Rights
A rooundtable type bit with George Will, Sam Donaldson, Clare Shipman, and Jay Carney

Or I may be an idiot

But when is it on? The British Open seems to be preempting it as far as I can tell.

PatVa @ 16

dakine01 @ 14

Christy,
I have been looking at the ABC This Week web site and I think this is the line-up:
A video interview of Hadley
A video interview of Lugar and Warner
A Dave Matthews interview on Veterans Rights
A rooundtable type bit with George Will, Sam Donaldson, Clare Shipman, and Jay Carney

Or I may be an idiot

But when is it on? The British Open seems to be preempting it as far as I can tell.

Noelle on C&L says that the British Open has preempted This Weak. No loss.

Off to do more packing.

Have a great day everyone.

RevDeb @ 17

PatVa @ 16

But when is it on? The British Open seems to be preempting it as far as I can tell.

Noelle on C&L says that the British Open has preempted This Weak. No loss.

And IOW, I am an idiot. D’oh!

Think Fran Townsend will poke a hornets’ nest today?

Noelle on C&L says that the British Open has preempted This Weak. No loss.

RevDeb at 17 – agreed, no loss at all. :-)

‘Morning, FirePups! Another lovely summer day in the Great Lakes state.

If you haven’t seen these two videos at these two DailyKos posts, you should.

College Republican chickenhawks get busted by The Angry Rakkasan

Watch this video by Unstable Isotope

GeorgeSimian, you might want to note the protests in the second one, and how almost none of those protests (save for Andrew Card’s graduation) made it into the media’s reporting. That’s because the media is only projecting the propaganda that its corporate ownership wants to convey to the public. They do not want the public to come to the realization that the entire country has had enough and is on the verge of taking to the streets everywhere. Think of the movie “V” — we only need for Guy Fawkes masks.

There is a really good website called They Rule.net that has connected all the larger corporations and the people who run them too each other. There’s a huge,rather inc*stuous web of companies who have board members who serve more than one corporate master.

There IS an effort to concentrate as much wealth into as few hands as possible. Media isn’t the only bidness this is happening to of course,but it’s a very good model for what’s happening to almost every type of business interest there is.

bonkers @ 13

GeorgeSimian @ 8

Anyway, I don’t really buy that the corporations own everything. I think it’s that the Right complains more, calls more, screams more, even though they are in the minority on most issues.

I work “in the biz” and I very much believe that there is an orchestrated effort to first, buy up as much media as possible and second, control the message through those outlets.

I’ve been at a TV station when Rupert Murdoch decided to take it over as an O&O, and the news content changed dramatically overnight. We started getting daily faxes about preferred coveragefor the each and this determined what the newscast looked like. Our boss made sure we followed these orders.

Years later, that station is still doing the Pox Noose style, after 20 some years as the market leader doing community oriented news. Their ratings and reputation have plummeted, and have been getting domainated by the current “community-centered” station for years now.

I had a similar situation in another city except this time it was Sinclair Broadcasting, with similar results on the ratings.

It has nothing to do with ratings or public feedback. They are there for one purpose – to influence the electorate to vote in Conglomerate interests.

I believe that there is some of this, esp. with Murdoch. He’s the king of this.

But the real reason, as RevDeb says above, is that the corporations advertise. If they pull the ads, then the corporations get scared. I never thought of that ADM type ad for influence idea, and it sounds very true, but it also sounds like more of a side-effect. They put these ads on TV to get the word out that they are not the evil companies that they are, for shareholders and politicians. In other words, it’s the message itself that they are trying to get out there. Anyway, ads are full of lies.

The real problem is when GE owns NBC (for example) and NBC puts on an editorial about what’s going wrong in Iraq (for example) and then some swiftboat like group of idiots starts calling for a boycott of GE products. That’s what they are scared of. A boycott of GE for a couple days costs more than all of NBC’s income for a year. So it’s a real threat.

The Left never seems to get involved with this kind of manipulation.

It takes a real CEO to stand up to these assholes, like Eisner standing up to the anti-gays for letting gays into Disney World.

not too much to talk about this morning, I might actually get an early start to tennis

I don’t know to be happy or disapointed

anyay, tennis…yay

GeorgeSimian @ 23

…The real problem is when GE owns NBC (for example) and NBC puts on an editorial about what’s going wrong in Iraq (for example) and then some swiftboat like group of idiots starts calling for a boycott of GE products. That’s what they are scared of. A boycott of GE for a couple days costs more than all of NBC’s income for a year. So it’s a real threat.

The Left never seems to get involved with this kind of manipulation. …

You do know why Jack Welch, while CEO of GE, bought NBC, don’t you? He bought it after consultation with Karl Rove; Welch had been concerned about the impact of tax legislation on GE’s bottom line, and obtained the results he wanted after the then-acquired NBC was able to promote the perspective Welch wanted.

The media and its corporate overlords haven’t looked back.

You say it’s about advertising, but how many of the advertisers actually own a piece of the media? Think about it. There is no daylight between them, especially when you look at the example of GE/NBC.

GeorgeSimian @ 23

But the real reason, as RevDeb says above, is that the corporations advertise. If they pull the ads, then the corporations get scared. I never thought of that ADM type ad for influence idea, and it sounds very true, but it also sounds like more of a side-effect. They put these ads on TV to get the word out that they are not the evil companies that they are, for shareholders and politicians. In other words, it’s the message itself that they are trying to get out there. Anyway, ads are full of lies.

The real problem is when GE owns NBC (for example) and NBC puts on an editorial about what’s going wrong in Iraq (for example) and then some swiftboat like group of idiots starts calling for a boycott of GE products. That’s what they are scared of. A boycott of GE for a couple days costs more than all of NBC’s income for a year. So it’s a real threat.

The Left never seems to get involved with this kind of manipulation.

It takes a real CEO to stand up to these assholes, like Eisner standing up to the anti-gays for letting gays into Disney World.

Morning, gang. Up early, trying to finish a piece of music.

Here’s a link to a list of corporations that absolutely refuse to market on Air America. I remember seeing another, bigger list somewhere that even included Subaru and REI, but can’t find it now.

OT from today’s Boston Globe: Army Probes alleged cheating on Promotion Exams Answers to promotion tests found online. Another consequence of lowered standards?

[passing thought: I wonder how much stock in GE our illustrious vice president owns, besides Timmeh Russert…]

Just felt like we could use a giggle this morning. And I found something silly with birds…

And I found something else, courtesy of ThinkProgress: ‘[Karl Rove] was so inept.’

In a recent conversation with the editors of the Washington Post, Secretary of Education Margaret Spellings was asked why she rebuffed Karl Rove’s advances on her in the early ’80s. Spellings paused, then said: “Have you met Karl Rove? He was so inept and so inartful,” she added. “I mean, I couldn’t even understand.

ET,

Isn’t it like 4.30 in the morning there?

Tim Russert, David Brooks, Bob Woodward & Stephen Hayes

A circle of jerks.

Rayne @ 28

[passing thought: I wonder how much stock in GE our illustrious vice president owns, besides Timmeh Russert…]

and vice versa — how heavily invested in Halliburton are the individual members of GE’s BoD? Many, many dots that need connecting here.

Rayne @ 29

[passing thought: I wonder how much stock in GE our illustrious vice president owns, besides Timmeh Russert…]

Are all his investments in a blind trust?

dakine01 @ 27

OT from today’s Boston Globe: Army Probes alleged cheating on Promotion Exams Answers to promotion tests found online. Another consequence of lowered standards?

Mid level officers are fleeing the Army. The nurse corps was down 10% months ago and they are leaving faster than all other types of officers. I think I read that captains and majors are leaving so fast that the Army will not be able to replace them for at least twenty years. The Army Times is an interesting read these days.

Rayne @ 25

GeorgeSimian @ 23

…The real problem is when GE owns NBC (for example) and NBC puts on an editorial about what’s going wrong in Iraq (for example) and then some swiftboat like group of idiots starts calling for a boycott of GE products. That’s what they are scared of. A boycott of GE for a couple days costs more than all of NBC’s income for a year. So it’s a real threat.

The Left never seems to get involved with this kind of manipulation. …

You do know why Jack Welch, while CEO of GE, bought NBC, don’t you? He bought it after consultation with Karl Rove; Welch had been concerned about the impact of tax legislation on GE’s bottom line, and obtained the results he wanted after the then-acquired NBC was able to promote the perspective Welch wanted.

The media and its corporate overlords haven’t looked back.

You say it’s about advertising, but how many of the advertisers actually own a piece of the media? Think about it. There is no daylight between them, especially when you look at the example of GE/NBC.

it’s not about advertising, it’s about the advertisers

let’s take example, air america

randi rhodes outperforms EVERYONE, she out performs hannity when head to head, she out performs rush when head to head

yet they pay more for hannity and rush then rhandi

rush was a failure and the advertisers sent him international to fabricate a following, he became so pervasive that he did become a marketing success

who’s that whining a hole that polishes rush’s shoes and cleans his butt?…something lehVIN

how the HELL do idiots like this get advertising revenue?

they don’t, but the advertisers are able to get politicians elected through these marionettes and so they spend tons of money keeping them on the air

so once again, it’s not about the advertising, it’s about the advertisers…when they want law they pay for the program that will promote their law

ET

That’s an interesting list. People I think I’ll have to not do business with, or something, to the extent that I can. (Sometimes you have no choice.)

egregious @ 31

ET,

Isn’t it like 4.30 in the morning there?

It was when I started. Now it is 0535. I work best on this kind of stuff really early.

retirin’ in five @ 33

Rayne @ 28

[passing thought: I wonder how much stock in GE our illustrious vice president owns, besides Timmeh Russert…]

and vice versa — how heavily invested in Halliburton are the individual members of GE’s BoD? Many, many dots that need connecting here.

Suggestions: look at Halliburton’s 10-K report filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission and look in Yahoo’s finance section, where I think you will find some information about a company’s major shareholders. There may be other places to look…

Ed*ard Teller @ 27

Here’s a link to a list of corporations that absolutely refuse to market on Air America. I remember seeing another, bigger list somewhere that even included Subaru and REI, but can’t find it now.

that’s one excellant point and link, everyone should save that in their “political favorites” folder with a sub folder “liberal media” to be thrown in the face of anyone that tries to repeat the corporate rubbish that “liberal radio doesn’t work”

of course it works, the corporations however would be out of their mind to air popular progressive politics…progressive politics will take away the free money the corporate politicians put in their pockets

Nequals1 @ 34

dakine01 @ 27

OT from today’s Boston Globe: Army Probes alleged cheating on Promotion Exams Answers to promotion tests found online. Another consequence of lowered standards?

Mid level officers are fleeing the Army. The nurse corps was down 10% months ago and they are leaving faster than all other types of officers. I think I read that captains and majors are leaving so fast that the Army will not be able to replace them for at least twenty years. The Army Times is an interesting read these days.

From the article it is enlisted/NCOs who are doing the cheating discussed here. Some of the folks with integrity are trying to point out to others on the message boards and cheating sites that it is their own lives at risk when they cheat on how to conduct operations or use high tech equipment.

perris @ 35

so once again, it’s not about the advertising, it’s about the advertisers…when they want law they pay for the program that will promote their law

Only when it comes to FUNDING progressive media. Not the other way around. GE’s been operating NBC at break-even or at a loss because the return to the rest of its businesses under the GE holding structure is greater when NBC is used as a tool to the benefit of GE.

We need to find alternative methodologies to fund progressive media — and in the alternative or in supplement, revisit the Fairness Doctrine. The issue of fairness is not just that all political perspectives should be represented on publicly-owned airwaves, but that narrow corporate interests should not supercede the interests of the public at large.

perris @ 40

Ed*ard Teller @ 27

Here’s a link to a list of corporations that absolutely refuse to market on Air America. I remember seeing another, bigger list somewhere that even included Subaru and REI, but can’t find it now.

that’s one excellant point and link, to be thrown in the face of anyone that tries to repeat the corporate rubbish that “liberal radio doesn’t work”

of course it works, the corporations however would be out of their mind to air popular progressive politics…progressive politics will take away the free money the corporate politicians put in their pockets

It seems that we need to encourage the progressive billionaires to get involved in owning media outlets. Soros is the logical person to spearhead it since his organization is mostly devoted to having an open society and the free flow of information. He has spent a lot of money internationally to establish the infrastructures needed for an open society. We need the same sort of effort here.

Good morning all!

perris @ 39

Ed*ard Teller @ 27

Here’s a link to a list of corporations that absolutely refuse to market on Air America. I remember seeing another, bigger list somewhere that even included Subaru and REI, but can’t find it now.

that’s one excellant point and link, everyone should save that in their “political favorites” folder with a sub folder “liberal media” to be thrown in the face of anyone that tries to repeat the corporate rubbish that “liberal radio doesn’t work”

of course it works, the corporations however would be out of their mind to air popular progressive politics…progressive politics will take away the free money the corporate politicians put in their pockets

Is there any way to get that list cleaned up so that it’s more readable? My old eyes can’t distinguish many company names, and I’d like to keep that list as a ready reference.

janda @ 43

It seems that we need to encourage the progressive billionaires to get involved in owning media outlets. Soros is the logical person to spearhead it since his organization is mostly devoted to having an open society and the free flow of information. He has spent a lot of money internationally to establish the infrastructures needed for an open society. We need the same sort of effort here.

another great media link here;

http://www.huppi.com/kangaroo/L-liberalmedia.htmjanda @ 43

perris @ 40

Good Morning Christy, Pups.

Haven’t had time to check the comments, but has anyone linked the original clip from which that was altered?

If not, I’ll try to do so later. It’s even funnier, and it’s REAL. This one above obviously has been “enhanced” and isn’t nearly as good.
Apologies, but it’s just not.

Attenborough is an absolute gift to the world!
I recommend everything he’s ever done. What a genius and a delight he is! Completely fearless, curiosity of a kid, and he somehow has access to the most astounding video I have ever seen of the natural world.

As for the talking head tv ranks today. eewwww. I’ll pass, except for Dick Durbin, bless him, and maybe Harry Reid.

We’ve got to go “walk” our conservation easement in a few minutes with a visitor from the local land conservancy, so I have to go for now. Besides, it’s just gorgeous out there this morning, the birds singing and fussing everywhere over their fledglings. In spite of our recent drought here, and our decreeified preznit, life here is good this particular morn. The telly stays off.

back in a bit. ;->

I usually make a distinction between Conglomerate versus Corporate interests. The GE/NBC exmple is a good one. I now own my own ‘corporation’ with one fulltime employee – me. I’m trying to make profits and have more employees.

When people talk about the evils the “Corporations,” I think they really mean “Conglomerates” and they’re the real problem. Plus, when complaining about corporations, it falls into the “liberals hate capitalism” storyline that’s beat into our heads by the Conglomerate Media.

bonkers,

Thank you for that. I’m also the president of a corporation, and I don’t think of what we’re doing as evil. We’re saving lives.

bonkers @ 47

I usually make a distinction between Conglomerate versus Corporate interests. The GE/NBC exmple is a good one. I now own my own ‘corporation’ with one fulltime employee – me. I’m trying to make profits and have more employees.

When people talk about the evils the “Corporations,” I think they really mean “Conglomerates” and they’re the real problem. Plus, when complaining about corporations, it falls into the “liberals hate capitalism” storyline that’s beat into our heads by the Conglomerate Media.

You are dead on the money there. This nation’s enormous economic expansion was fueled by small to medium businesses. Think of all the founding fathers, and what they were, farmers, small shop owners, people who possessed by necessity with a wide range of gifts and skills in order to survive.

Corporate holding structures we know as “corporations” today don’t compare in any way; they succeed in no small part by crowsing out the small businesses that do not have the same mass. And unfortunately, the real engine of growth in this country continues to be the small business, not the mega-corporations; if they are crowded out, real growth slows.

SPCPA — I think the blind trust that Cheney possesses is about as blind as that Frist had. If you already know what was in it at the time you took office, and you continue to support the corporations that were in it, it’s not particularly blind.

RevDeb @ 18

Off to do more packing.

Have a great day everyone.

RevDeb. Not sure of your schedule, but wanted to wish you a safe and smooth move. ;->

It’s surprising that liberals haven’t tried using the threat of a boycott against Universal to pressure NBC. Has anyone else here thought something along this line?

Wow! What a great thread that just grew its own legs………plenty of posts in here for the front pagers:

anangryoldbroad @ 23

There is a really good website called They Rule.net that has connected all the larger corporations and the people who run them too each other. There’s a huge,rather inc*stuous web of companies who have board members who serve more than one corporate master.

There IS an effort to concentrate as much wealth into as few hands as possible. Media isn’t the only bidness this is happening to of course,but it’s a very good model for what’s happening to almost every type of business interest there is.

Did a quick google for the site you mention but didn’t take dial-up time to check it out yet. Their url includes “2004″ so do you have any idea how up-to-date the info on it may be?

Rayne

FYI, this last week the euro has been running ca. $1.38. Iran was reported diversifying their currency portfolio, began accepting yen for oil, and hold dollars to less than 20% of foreign currency holdings which may be the underlaying cause for weakness of the dollar as only a very large supply of dollars would depress the exchange rate to that extent.

Galbraith on the Iraq Occupation: Must Read

But there will be no Saigon moment in Iraq. Iraq’s Shiite-led government is in no danger of losing the civil war to al-Qaeda, or a more inclusive Sunni front. Iraq’s Shiites are three times as numerous as Iraq’s Sunni Arabs; they dominate Iraq’s military and police and have a powerful ally in neighboring Iran. The Arab states that might support the Sunnis are small, far away (vast deserts separate the inhabited parts of Jordan and Saudi Arabia from the main Iraqi population centers), and can only provide money, something the insurgency has in great amounts already.

Iraq after an American defeat will look very much like Iraq today—a land divided along ethnic lines into Arab and Kurdish states with a civil war being fought within its Arab part. Defeat is defined by America’s failure to accomplish its objective of a self-sustaining, democratic, and unified Iraq. And that failure has already taken place, along with the increase of Iranian power in the region.

http://www.nybooks.com/articles/20470

Good Morning everyone….. I’m back from Greece :(

When I see those “warm fuzzy” commercials, I wonder what they are hiding, why DOES that company want me to think they are SO great?

Remember that Walmart commercial with a Dad saying without Walmart his kid would be dead because they paid for his liver transplant? Well, the rest of the story is that Walmart family lived in a state that mandated that employer based insurance cover sick babies from birth (yes my buckos if your state has NOT written this into law then your child CAN be denied coverage just because they were born sick).

So a mega company took advantage of that family by using them in those warm fuzzy adds.

BTW… the news has NOT been canceled in Europe. CNN World International has actual news with REAL follow up questions. My boyfriend and I sat with jaws dropped listening to CNN coverage trashing BushCo and telling the truth.

Nequals1 @ 45

I’m going to type it up. Will take a bit, then I’ll post it back here.

good luck with the move, RevDeb!

Welcome back, katymine.

Yestidie! Ugh!

Did anyone else blunder into tv interviews with Russert & novACK gushing over latter’s new book, then Brian Lamb enabling same from Peggy Noonan? Or did I just get lucky?!

Talk about corporate-ocracy hold on our “news[?!?]” organizations! *blergh*

On the Iraq War debate, listen for Republicans like David Brooks, Fred Haitt and others to blame Harry Reid:

What’s happening now is that Washington is realizing the obvious. There’s nowhere to go come September, so they’re lashing out. While they ineffectually try to explore moving the goalposts or pretending we’re winning (with no movement at all in the political process, that’s absurd), they also figure the best defense is a good offense. And what better way to go on offense is to blame the Democrats in general, and Harry Reid in particular. The way it’s done in DC is to turn to the GOP enablers, in this case David Brooks and Fred Hiatt. Frank’s diary summarizes the Hiatt end of things:

If you read the Washington Post editorial titled “The Phony Debate”(and linked off the frontpage with the title “Democratic demagoguery on Iraq”), you come away with the idea that the current situation can be squarely blamed on Harry Reid, and that a solution could be found if only the Democrats were willing to compromise with Bush and the Republicans. It is a strange piece from the bizarro world.

Brooks’ version of the same message can be heard on the real player audio of the weekly Shields-Brooks piece on the News Hour. Republicans want you to know that it’s all Harry Reid’s fault. This administration, after all, hasn’t a partisan bone in its body and hasn’t acted that way to gushing press admiration about their political genius for six years (reap what you sow, fellas, and explain to us again how smart you are). link

Welcome back katymine. Was it gorgeous?

bonkers @ 9

Can we just call that show on NBC what it really is? Timmeh was not a journalist before NBC hired him as a “journalist”, and no one is meeting any “press.”

Hence, Feingold on Meet the Russert today. Really curious why Russ wants to be on right now. He must have something cookin!

Feingold will stick to the anti-war issues. I’m guessing.

Any Oregonians with a comment on this?

DeFazio (D-Ore) asks, but he’s denied access.

Classified info – The congressman wanted to see government plans for after a terror attack.

Oregonians called Peter DeFazio’s office, worried there was a conspiracy buried in the classified portion of a White House plan for operating the government after a terrorist attack.

As a member of the U.S. House on the Homeland Security Committee, DeFazio, D-Ore., is permitted to enter a secure “bubbleroom” in the Capitol and examine classified material. So he asked the White House to see the secret documents.

On Wednesday, DeFazio got his answer: DENIED.

Neil,

Are you the same Neil that comments over at The Next Hurrah?

Mornin’ pups, So glad I stopped by because this is the second time I’ve been told about Subaru. Was considering an outback but now I’ll just keep my ol’ heap. All I need to know I find at FDL.
Play with your old toys and keep your wallet in your pocket. Peace

Timmy is asking in a leering sort of way about “enhanched” interrogation techniques. Mike McConnell denies there is any torture involved. Says Abu Ghraib was an “aberation.”

Mike McConnell also lauds “our good friend in Pakistan” Musharraf.

Was Crete gorgeous….

The Sea…. so clear and blue, you can see the sea bottom when up on the cliffs overlooking the coast. Christy, I have tons of pictures that you can use for your “Pull up a chair” posts.

The food ….. so fresh, the veggies were in the garden right next to a Taverna that morning. Watermelon so sweet it almost hurt your teeth. Yogurt so thick, sweet and wonderful.

The people …. warm, generous, resilient and resourceful

The driving…. now that was amazing, how they can make a 2 lane road with shoulders into 5 lanes

I just want to know why nobody is making a big thing out of Bush having a major procedure done at Camp David and not at the normal hospital where all other Presidents were treated. What makes Bush so different? So unpopular that they can’t trust anyone? Can’t face the service personnel at Walter Reed or Bethesda? It is bizarre! But what else is new. And just what did it cost for setting up a place in Camp David for having a colonoscopy and removal of polyps? No expense is spared for an asshole.

The Vitter piece *supposedly* coming up next on CNN.

OK, the list of no-Air-America advertisers; the question marks are where I couldn’t get a clear reading of the picture.

Allstate
American Heart Association
Aventis ?
Avon (all brands)
Bank of America
Bayer (all products)
BMW Motorcycles
Carrier
Chatham ? – Capzasin
Chatham ? – Gold Bond 1st Aid
Chatham ? – Gold Bond Foot Spray
Chatham ? – Phisoderm
Chatham ? – Selsun Salon
Chatham ? – Ultimate Healing Lotion
Cigna
Cingular
Clorox
Coke
Coty
Dean’s Morningstar Foods
Dell ?
Denny’s
Discovery Channel
Eharmony.com
Epson
Expedia.com
Exxon Mobil
Farmers Insurance
FedEx
Foot Action
Frito-Lay
GE
Gillette Venus
Goodyear
Heineken / Amstel Light
Hershey’s
Hewlett Packard
Home Depot
Hormel
Hyatt
Interstate Batteries
J C Penney
Johnson & Johnson (all brands)
Kohl’s
Kraft Foods (all brands)
Levi’s
Masterfoods USA (all brands)
McDonald’s
Marial Frontline ?
MGM
Michelin
Microsoft
Morningstar
National Cattleman’s Beef
Nestle
Nissan
NYSE
Office Depot
Outdoor Life Network
P&G – Bounty
P&G – Charmin
P&G – Febreeze
P&G – Iams Dog / Cat Foods
P&G – Pepto Bismol
Paramount (all)
Pepsi
Philip Morris
Pier 1 Imports
Red Lobster
Re/Max
REI Sporting Goods
Rent-way
Robert Half
Schering Plough ESPYs ?
Schering Plough Tinactin
Sherwin Williams
Sony
State Farm
Toys R Us
Travelocity.com
True Value
United Healthcare
US Navy
USPS
Visa
Walgreens
Wal-Mart
Welch’s Wrigley
Wyeth

Waccamaw says: The Vitter piece *supposedly* coming up next on CNN.

Thx!

P J Evans – awesome!

Gee, I can’t imagine why the US Navy and the USPS won’t advertise on Air America. [/sarcasm]

Most of the rest I can understand, also. Some of them I’d expect to be more aware of the potential customer base among the liberals/progressives.

A surprising number of the retail businesses are places I’m uncomfortable going into; I feel out of place in them.

Mike McConnell is such a tool.(is he related to Mitch?) Timmy quotes his condemnation of the Bush administraton from a passage in Stephen Hayes Cheney book. McConnell backtracks. He was worried when he was nominated, but what he actually found was “refreshing.” There are “open, frank conversations” within the Bush administration.
Mmhhmm

mui @ 65

Timmy is asking in a leering sort of way about “enhanched” interrogation techniques. Mike McConnell denies there is any torture involved. Says Abu Ghraib was an “aberation.”

Mike McConnell also lauds “our good friend in Pakistan” Musharraf.

i HATE mike mcconnell.

what am i doing watching/listening to this dangerous man? why would anyone take what he has to say seriously?

oh great. and first commercials after mike mcconnell?

ADM, Boeing and GE.

i’m turning the volume off until russ.

It’s been terribly hard to have the media parked on out front lawn…

You can feel bad for Mrs. Vitter and still believe Sen. Vitter brings it upon himself by having sex with call girls and then refusing to answer questions despite his “family values” policies such as a constitutional amendment prohibiting gay marriage and declaring Pres. Clinton as unfit for office becuase of his blow job.

I’ve heard Travelocity ads on my local air america station.

bonkers @ 9

Can we just call that show on NBC what it really is? Timmeh was not a journalist before NBC hired him as a “journalist”, and no one is meeting any “press.”

Hence, Feingold on Meet the Russert today. Really curious why Russ wants to be on right now. He must have something cookin!

Let’s hope Russ has something under his sleeve, because this week’s show is a big stinker (more so than ever) judging from the McConnell interview. & also later Hayes and Woodward & Brookes.

P J Evans @ 69

OK, the list of no-Air-America advertisers; the question marks are where I couldn’t get a clear reading of the picture.

No surprises there, whatsoever.

Big Pharma? Check.

Brand or business owned by corporate holding structures like GE or ADM? Check.

Military or government vendor? Check.

What we need is a way for small businesses to pool resources to buy advertising in small markets, but through a centralized approach. Then we can replace these useless mega-corporate leeches.

edit: SPCPA — that list almost reads like Cheney’s blind trust holding list…heh.

Russ is gonna introduce another censure resolution against Bush, maybe Cheney and Abu too.

Not. Good. Enough.

edit: also says they have committed impeachable offenses, but that he’s proposing a “moderate” approach.

(yawn)

P J Evans @ 56

Nequals1 @ 45

I’m going to type it up. Will take a bit, then I’ll post it back here.

Thanks! =^)

Russ Feingold announces his proposal to censure the Prenznit, “shortly in a few days.” Timmy looks skeptical.

jayt @ 80

Russ is gonna introduce another censure resolution against Bush, maybe Cheney and Abu too.

Not. Good. Enough.

edit: also says they have committed impeachable offenses, but that he’s proposing a “moderate” approach.

(yawn)

Can’t this be a way to get the Senate to move forward?

jayt @ 79

Russ is gonna introduce another censure resolution against Bush, maybe Cheney and Abu too.

Not. Good. Enough.

edit: also says they have committed impeachable offenses, but that he’s proposing a “moderate” approach.

(yawn)

if bush/cheney/abu would agree to:

1) start following the law
2) open transparent government
3) end the iraq occupation & no iran attack

then, and only then, would censure would be appropriate.

Finegold is calling for censure. I completely disagree.

Reid is saying we have too much work to fight for censure in the Senate, which would be blocked by Repugs anyway.

I say impeachment, whether or not it results in the removal of Bush and Cheney from office, is absolutly necessary to challenge ALL of the extra-constitutional powers the president has claimed. I believe our freedom cannot survive the use of this unchecked power by this or any subsequent president.

Can anyone remember the quote from James Webb about the transfer of wealth to the top 10% or 5% or 1%, I found it quite stunning, but can not find it now.

jayt @ 80

Russ is gonna introduce another censure resolution against Bush, maybe Cheney and Abu too.

Not. Good. Enough.

edit: also says they have committed impeachable offenses, but that he’s proposing a “moderate” approach.

(yawn)

I differ! I think it’s a good starting point. If you can’t even get a lot of votes for censure, you’ll never be able to accomplish impeachment! We need to seriously pursue this as the very minimum, the least we can do, and once it’s overwhelmingly accomplished, move on to more serious measures. If, however, we don’t push it, it will flop again and just further weaken an already precarious position. Please get behind this and push! Hard!!!

Uh Oh, pups. My fave bluejeans on the list. I let em have it and you can too.
Levi’s

That’s it? Timmeh gives Feingold, what, five minutes?

Shorter Timmeh: “and that’s enough of that – after the break, more Republican Good-i-ness!”.

On the bright side, Bobo is now on the roundtable – somebody remind me later to check out Drifty.

Neil @ 7:25 -

I watched the *entire* presser the Vitters held and, based the Ms’s extended rant, believe they both deserve to have the media camped in their bloody bedroom, not just the front yard! All the “outtakes” shown since then don’t begin to show her true colors. She had more talk time than he did and spent it using her skirts to hid his nasty hypocrisy. Sorry if that sounds especially harsh but that presser left an even worse taste in my mouth about the both of them than before.

selise @ 84

jayt @ 79

Russ is gonna introduce another censure resolution against Bush, maybe Cheney and Abu too.

Not. Good. Enough.

edit: also says they have committed impeachable offenses, but that he’s proposing a “moderate” approach.

(yawn)

if bush/cheney/abu would agree to:

1) start following the law
2) open transparent government
3) end the iraq occupation & no iran attack

then, and only then, would censure would be appropriate.

Sounds like Russ is expressing doubts that impeachment can be done though. I don’t know if he is realistic, or just being a wuss. He believes censure will at least get it “on the record.”

Neil @ 85

Finegold is calling for censure. I completely disagree.

Reid is saying we have too much work to fight for censure in the Senate, which would be blocked by Repugs anyway.

I say impeachment, whether or not it results in the removal of Bush and Cheney from office, is absolutly necessary to challenge ALL of the extra-constitutional powers the president has claimed. I believe our freedom cannot survive the use of this unchecked power by this or any subsequent president.

So many of the elected Dems are claiming there’s a lot of work to do…but they are constantly obstructed by Republicans. So why bother?

Simply work repeatedly on impeaching every single political appointee that obstructs them, until they get the point that letting bills pass is less painful than public debate about impeaching appointees.

jayt @ 89

That’s it? Timmeh gives Feingold, what, five minutes?

Shorter Timmeh: “and that’s enough of that – after the break, more Republican Good-i-ness!”.

On the bright side, Bobo is now on the roundtable – somebody remind me later to check out Drifty.

Yes, Russ wiped the sweat off of his forehead, breathed a sigh of relief after Russ left. And now for David Brooks and Bob Woodward. He loves, loves some David Brooks.Yumm, yumm yumm, says Russ.

russ feingold got a lot of grief on july 16th, when he posted a dkos diary discussing why he didn’t support impeachment. (and this was right after his vote for s.amdt.2073 – so people were a bit unhappy with him to begin with).

i wonder if senator feingold is, this time (unlike last year’s censure resolution), trying to respond to calls for impeachment with this censure motion and with this new dkos diary just posted.

The tipping point has been reached on Iraq.

How do we know? Juan Williams just grew some balls and confronted Bill Kristol on Faux.

selise @ 12

bonkers @ 9

Can we just call that show on NBC what it really is? Timmeh was not a journalist before NBC hired him as a “journalist”, and no one is meeting any “press.”

Hence, Feingold on Meet the Russert today. Really curious why Russ wants to be on right now. He must have something cookin!

personally, i prefer “Meet the man owned by cheney” but i guess that is too many words?

and yeah, i just might have watch – to see feingold.

I have no problem with ‘Press the Meat’. Timmeh certainly carries a surfeit of that around in his fat, corporatist ass.

Like to see McConnell and Feingold discuss the reality of the ‘Surge’ as shown in this clip. But then you’d have folks upchucking their breakfasts and we just can’t have that. Don’t wanna rile the populace…as if you could piss Americans off more than they are with ReThuglican scumbags backing a total disaster in The MeatGrinder led by The Colossus of the CodPiece

Ann in AZ says
July 22nd, 2007 at 7:40 am

I differ! I think it’s a good starting point. If you can’t even get a lot of votes for censure, you’ll never be able to accomplish impeachment! We need to seriously pursue this as the very minimum, the least we can do, and once it’s overwhelmingly accomplished, move on to more serious measures. If, however, we don’t push it, it will flop again and just further weaken an already precarious position. Please get behind this and push! Hard!!!

I think – 1) it’s too weak, and more importantly, 2) it’s badly timed.

We’re on the brink of getting some real-time impeachable offenses on the contempt issues. I’m not against censure or any other smack-down of GWB et al, but would prefer that Russ wait a few minutes to see how the Contempt issue plays out in the House.

iow, don’t use all the oxygen and fuel on Censure, when there truly *could* be impeachment on the table soon.

Neil @ 76

It’s been terribly hard to have the media parked on out front lawn…

You can feel bad for Mrs. Vitter and still believe Sen. Vitter brings it upon himself by having sex with call girls and then refusing to answer questions despite his “family values” policies such as a constitutional amendment prohibiting gay marriage and declaring Pres. Clinton as unfit for office becuase of his blow job.

She’s made her choices. I have ZERO sympathy for her.

I find it interesting how Mike McConnell addresses sectarian violence. He thinks Al Qu*d* is an “important” player in the violence. He also slipped in mention of Shia on Shia violence: “we’re also beginning to see some Shia on Shia violence.” I wonder if (1) he is full of it, or (2) there is Shia on shia violence, or (3) he’s exaggerating/misleading the public and wants to people to think Shia(Iran, Hezbollah) v. Shia Government. Hard to tell with these tete a tete tool of Darth to tool of Darth conversations.

mui @ 83

jayt @ 80

Russ is gonna introduce another censure resolution against Bush, maybe Cheney and Abu too.

Not. Good. Enough.

edit: also says they have committed impeachable offenses, but that he’s proposing a “moderate” approach.

(yawn)

Can’t this be a way to get the Senate to move forward?

My hope is that they are using this to prime the pump to get to impeachment. Whether that is the case or not, I don’t know.

Who are these 28%ers?

Extremists:

Not just Racists ———-> But Torturers
Not just Authoritarians —> But Totalitarians
Not just Theologics ——-> But Zealots

Their perceived ‘loss of control’ triggers the worst of their ’survival fears.’

Like Tbogg says: These are the kind of people who start pondering cannibalism when the motor on the boat conks out ten feet from shore.

selise @ 94

russ feingold got a lot of grief on july 16th, when he posted a dkos diary discussing why he didn’t support impeachment. (and this was right after his vote for s.amdt.2073 – so people were a bit unhappy with him to begin with).

i wonder if senator feingold is, this time (unlike last year’s censure resolution), trying to respond to calls for impeachment with this censure motion and with this new dkos diary just posted.

Begins nicely, from the 2nd graf:

While I still am not convinced that Congress should pursue impeachment, you made some great points about how important it is to hold this administration accountable for its terrible misconduct.

Urgh. Chris Matthews has David Gregory on et al. They’re just going to salivate over Hillary.

Waccamaw @ 90

Neil @ 7:25 -

I watched the *entire* presser the Vitters held and, based the Ms’s extended rant, believe they both deserve to have the media camped in their bloody bedroom, not just the front yard! All the “outtakes” shown since then don’t begin to show her true colors. She had more talk time than he did and spent it using her skirts to hid his nasty hypocrisy. Sorry if that sounds especially harsh but that presser left an even worse taste in my mouth about the both of them than before.

Her defense of her partner is to be expected and we are free to take issue with it.

Vitter is the elected official, the one who said the Pres. Clinton was unfit for office becuase of his marriage infidelity. Vitter is the one who made family values a campaign issue. Vitter’s attempt to duck the issue is predictable and yet unacceptable. Vitter did not only “sin” he may have broken the law too. The public has questions and we deserve to have them answered.

OT. Let’s have another war since those in Afghanistan and Iraq have been so successful.

http://www.nytimes.com/aponlin…..d6ERDldLyQ

Hmmm. CSPAN-2 “Betraying Our Troops: The Destructive Results of Privatizing War” Robert Bauman. I am about to read a book on Blackwater.

newtonusr @ 101

selise @ 94

russ feingold got a lot of grief on july 16th, when he posted a dkos diary discussing why he didn’t support impeachment. (and this was right after his vote for s.amdt.2073 – so people were a bit unhappy with him to begin with).

i wonder if senator feingold is, this time (unlike last year’s censure resolution), trying to respond to calls for impeachment with this censure motion and with this new dkos diary just posted.

Begins nicely, from the 2nd graf:

While I still am not convinced that Congress should pursue impeachment, you made some great points about how important it is to hold this administration accountable for its terrible misconduct.

yep. one of the reasons i like senator feingold. and i wouldn’t be surprised if he actually does read through the comments left for him (last time, on impeachment, it was over 1800). firepups, if you have something to say to senator feingold, now’s the time.

I was trying to explain to a young, new voter recently just why Republican Senators will likely suffer more than many Republican Congressmen in this anti-war awakening, and I think I gave her a good answer.

It is simpler than most people realize.

Senators represent their entire state, and that means in EVERY state they represent a majority consitutency that opposes the “war.” I may be off a bit, but I would guess the predominance of anti-war sentiment is similar from state-to-state. Even here in Kansas, you have a problem finding any respected Republicans who can defend their “war” with a straight face. (Even our chief Bush enabler, Roberts, has offerd some self-willed war-waffling, apparently a preemptive move to protect his future status.)

But if you break a state down into its House of Representatives demographic divisions, you get much smaller territories, and much narrower political interests.

A Congressional District may even represent a very specific political group, especially when gerrymadering has been practiced in defining those boundaries(such as all the rich, pampered Republicans living so exclusively in the gated communities of California’s District 3, surrounded by some of California’s poorest residents.) It it quite common, especially in the South (and in Ohio) for congressional enclaves to be determined ideological, rather than population grounds.

Remember the Texas map after Delay’s thugs got done with it? I looked like a jigsaw puzzle on steroids. And it was drawn that way specifically to create a conservative ideological majority.

So, inherently, Congresspeople represent a much more specific constituency than a Senator, and they must respond to their own territorial majority, Republican or Democrat, in order to stay in office.

But Senators represent the entire state, and therefore must weigh the opinion of a broader constituency against their own and their party’s interests. And no one can change the boundaries of that consitituency, it includes the entire state.

Which is why Senators who are caught up in this transition are much more likely to suffer the slings and arrows of outrageous political misfortune, if they refuse to represent the majority will of their state’s voters, than their counterparts in the House.

If the trend of public enlightenment into the Bush subterfuge(s) continues, it won’t be long before even those reddest of red Congressional Districts will also have a majority opposed to the war.

It may have already happened.

CSPAN-2 Dina Rasor talking about KBR.How troops were furious over the luxurious treatment contractors got. Surge of troops means surge of contractors= Surge in war-profiteering. Thinks contractors will push for war so they can continue to make money. If everything in Iraq stopped tommorrow where would the industry go? They have to push gov. foreign politics toward war.

mui @ 106

Hmmm. CSPAN-2 “Betraying Our Troops: The Destructive Results of Privatizing War” Robert Bauman. I am about to read a book on Blackwater.

Lucky to have been channel surfing and hit this one. Very scary the last point by Rasor about what do you do with the built-up privitized “service” war industry if there . is . no . war? Sounds like a book I’ve gotta buy and quick. Do you know anything about the two authors?

Dina Rasor: Contractors sucking the life out of the army. They provide soft serve icecream, and yet soldiers would rather have night vision goggles. One soldier complained there were three for 20 guys.

Oh crap Dina Rasor said that all roads seemed to lead to Tom Delay at one point.
. . . Many falls in connection to Abramoff.

I e-mailed MTP. I said Timmeh’s weakness is asking the obvious follow up questions that a guest can ask other than the ones he does that the guest can’t or won’t slyly hiding behind secrecy. Also if the questions embarrass the guest, th actions requiring the question should have already embarrassed him. My first was McConnel’s claim “all” participants in the Abu Ghraib torture scandal were prosecuted. Not according to Gen. Toguba. What about the ones above Toguba’s pay grade? And the “no torture” executive order bans, lack of food, no cold and no heat and doctors would be present. If no torture is involved, why do you need doctors present?

Dina Rasor giving praise to Waxman.

‘Thinks contractors will push for war so they can continue to make money. If everything in Iraq stopped tommorrow where would the industry go?’

cui bono…

We are still in Iraq because of this (and the stall on the oil revenue sharing bill in the Iraqi “congress”)…

And this is also more evidence that the surge was was not a military tactic, it was nothing more than another no-bid feeding frenzy.

It has become cosmically profane, the callousness with which they send our loved-ones to death, and all for their bottom lines.

bonkers @ 7

GeorgeSimian @ 5

I don’t see any Democrats on the line up who might bring up impeachment. Totally disappointing. The Republicans never seem to get tired of getting their pundits on these shows to discuss terrorism and Iraq. Where are the Democrats talking about impeachment, or rebutting their bullshit on everything?

Doncha know? There is an elaborate covert operation going on right now. (do not tell Bob Novak!) Pelosi has set a trap and they’re falling right into it. We’ve got them right where we want them.

Uh, I want to believe this, but let’s just say time tells all.

Half the stuff Congress should be talking about is off the table.

Thank you Mrs. Pelosi.

Waccamaw @ 110

mui @ 106

Hmmm. CSPAN-2 “Betraying Our Troops: The Destructive Results of Privatizing War” Robert Bauman. I am about to read a book on Blackwater.

Lucky to have been channel surfing and hit this one. Very scary the last point by Rasor about what do you do with the built-up privitized “service” war industry if there . is . no . war? Sounds like a book I’ve gotta buy and quick. Do you know anything about the two authors?

Here’s Blogger Bio on Huffington Post for Rasor

JEP @ 115

And this is also more evidence that the surge was was not a military tactic, it was nothing more than another no-bid feeding frenzy.

It has become cosmically profane, the callousness with which they send our loved-ones to death, and all for their bottom lines.

It’s horrific isn’t it?
Rasor invokes Truman. Talks of timidity of Congress (aside from Waxman.)

Please go to Feingolds dkos diary and make a comment. My concern is that his diary makes it clear that he still has not watched Moyer’s special on impeachment. He does not answer any of the concerns brought up by the show. I begged him to watch Moyers and then speak to me about it. I want to hear his response to that show and the concerns about defending our constitution.

If you agree with me, please go to his diary and beg him to watch the show, or if he has watched it, to respond to the concerns that the show outlines. It completely changed my mind about impeachment and I have yet to see a post from anyone who has seen the show that still believes that impeachment is not the right thing to do.

We must impeach to defend our constitution or we will be engaging in the same behavior that Bush has been engaging in for the last 7 years.

It’s not about winning, it’s about following the law and the constitution the way it was laid out by our founding fathers.

guten morgen

JEP @ 115

And this is also more evidence that the surge was was not a military tactic, it was nothing more than another no-bid feeding frenzy.

Certainly gives new meaning to “wait until September.”

Dina says Republikans can’t be shamed. They think money-making is a virtue. Dems can be shamed.

One side benefit of the Bush colonoscopy:

Jeff Gannon gets his class ring back.

David Ehrenstein @ 122

One side benefit of the Bush colonoscopy:

Jeff Gannon gets his class ring back.

eeeww image i didn’t need :)

tw3k @ 120

guten morgen

Buenas dias, tw3k.

O/T Meant to tell the site designers before…

I love the new look on FDL with all the ads in the right and the blog on the left. It’s much easier on my eyes. And though they still remain crossed, it’s now due solely to watching the contortions that the Republicans put us through.

Thanks FDL!

Tks, mui -

This has been one of the best things I’ve seen on C-Span! Gotta check to see if Rasor has a blog.

wangdangdoodle @ 124

tw3k @ 120

guten morgen

Buenas dias, tw3k.

danke :)

katymine @ 67

Was Crete gorgeous….

The Sea…. so clear and blue, you can see the sea bottom when up on the cliffs overlooking the coast. Christy, I have tons of pictures that you can use for your “Pull up a chair” posts.

The food ….. so fresh, the veggies were in the garden right next to a Taverna that morning. Watermelon so sweet it almost hurt your teeth. Yogurt so thick, sweet and wonderful.

The people …. warm, generous, resilient and resourceful

The driving…. now that was amazing, how they can make a 2 lane road with shoulders into 5 lanes

Hi katymine, have you joined the fdl facebook group? You can post your pics there and I’m sure I’m not the only one here that would love to see them!

silence is complicity @ 125

O/T Meant to tell the site designers before…

I love the new look on FDL with all the ads in the right and the blog on the left. It’s much easier on my eyes. And though they still remain crossed, it’s now due solely to watching the contortions that the Republicans put us through.

Thanks FDL!

yeah, I’ve always liked the content on the left, nav right sorts thing.

wangdangdoodle @ 124

tw3k @ 120

guten morgen

Buenas dias, tw3k.

Guten Nachmittag!

http://www.followthemoneyproject.org/

Site for further info on the Rasor/Bauman presentation on C-Span.

mui @ 130

wangdangdoodle @ 124

Buenas dias, tw3k.

Guten Nachmittag!

Zeit ist nicht, was es scheint

tw3k @ 132

mui @ 130

Guten Nachmittag!

Zeit ist nicht, was es scheint

Babel Fish is your friend!

wangdangdoodle @ 133

tw3k @ 132

Zeit ist nicht, was es scheint

Babel Fish is your friend!

busted! :)

No wonder it got so slow down here.

Christy upstairs.

wangdangdoodle @ 135

No wonder it got so slow down here.

Christy upstairs.

EUP’d!

ABC This Week: No idea who is on because they have completely screwed up the This Week website.

Well, This Week isn’t on here on the west coast at all as far as I can tell. Some really important golf from Scotland has bumped it. I guess Abramoff and all his buddies can watch and remember the days……..

I feel like I have just been given an hour of my life back – geez, no George Will and no George S Many Letters, and I’m alive and well and may not even bother to see if they are on next week.

These talking heads may as well discuss Harry Potter, it is just as relevant to reality as the world they continually try to portray.

How did Pumpkin head do on MTP today?

Here’s the Attenborough clip I mentioned earlier at #47

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjE0Kdfos4Y

Hard to beat the “real thing”. ;->