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	<title>Comments on: FDL Book Salon:  The Rise of the Blogosphere, by Aaron Barlow</title>
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		<title>By: Ilona Meagher</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/07/22/fdl-book-salon-the-rise-of-the-blogosphere-by-aaron-barlow/#comment-840957</link>
		<dc:creator>Ilona Meagher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jul 2007 05:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I’m sorry I missed the lively discussion today, but wanted to chime in to give my kudos to Aaron and thank FDL for having him on to talk about his fine work. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;A goldmine of comments!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I’m sorry I missed the lively discussion today, but wanted to chime in to give my kudos to Aaron and thank FDL for having him on to talk about his fine work. </p>
<p>A goldmine of comments!</p>
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		<title>By: dmac</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/07/22/fdl-book-salon-the-rise-of-the-blogosphere-by-aaron-barlow/#comment-840341</link>
		<dc:creator>dmac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jul 2007 00:02:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;scarecrow at 110 says-”I’d liked to echo an earlier comment about “honor” and another by Aaron about the “editing” function performed by readers.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;As one who is an amateaur and still a beginner at that, I can’t emphasize enough how intimidating it is to put a post on FDL’s front page, knowing that 3,000 or more people may not only glance at it but have the ability to immediately call me an uniformed, clueless idiot.    &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The “editing” functions two ways, one is via the comments, offering different insights as well as corrections, but just as important is the poster’s anticipation of the comments.  I spend more time when drafting asking whether I can defend a statement than thinking about how well it’s written. And after every session, I’m always a little embarrassed.  If you take it seriously, it’s either incredibly educational or incredibly humbling, and often both.”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;i have never taken issue with anything you have written that i have read…………it’s all been completely correct, so have felt no need to correct it…………&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>scarecrow at 110 says-”I’d liked to echo an earlier comment about “honor” and another by Aaron about the “editing” function performed by readers.  </p>
<p>As one who is an amateaur and still a beginner at that, I can’t emphasize enough how intimidating it is to put a post on FDL’s front page, knowing that 3,000 or more people may not only glance at it but have the ability to immediately call me an uniformed, clueless idiot.    </p>
<p>The “editing” functions two ways, one is via the comments, offering different insights as well as corrections, but just as important is the poster’s anticipation of the comments.  I spend more time when drafting asking whether I can defend a statement than thinking about how well it’s written. And after every session, I’m always a little embarrassed.  If you take it seriously, it’s either incredibly educational or incredibly humbling, and often both.”</p>
<p>i have never taken issue with anything you have written that i have read…………it’s all been completely correct, so have felt no need to correct it…………</p>
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		<title>By: dmac</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/07/22/fdl-book-salon-the-rise-of-the-blogosphere-by-aaron-barlow/#comment-840336</link>
		<dc:creator>dmac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jul 2007 23:57:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;rayne at 103 says-”If you’ve read Blink by Malcolm Gladwell and remember what he wrote about the likelihood of a doctor being sued depending on his interaction with his patients, you can see that a doctor who cannot have a healthcare conversation with his patients as partners in the healing process is a legal risk to himself and his own insurers.”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;all is not lost, my doctors talk in english, still………&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>rayne at 103 says-”If you’ve read Blink by Malcolm Gladwell and remember what he wrote about the likelihood of a doctor being sued depending on his interaction with his patients, you can see that a doctor who cannot have a healthcare conversation with his patients as partners in the healing process is a legal risk to himself and his own insurers.”</p>
<p>all is not lost, my doctors talk in english, still………</p>
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		<title>By: Scarecrow</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/07/22/fdl-book-salon-the-rise-of-the-blogosphere-by-aaron-barlow/#comment-840270</link>
		<dc:creator>Scarecrow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jul 2007 23:10:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Ms. Hamsher has a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/07/22/the-poodles-are-ready-for-their-pj-party-senator-reid/&quot;&gt;new thread ready&lt;/a&gt;.  Poodles in Pajamas&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ms. Hamsher has a <a href="http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/07/22/the-poodles-are-ready-for-their-pj-party-senator-reid/">new thread ready</a>.  Poodles in Pajamas</p>
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		<title>By: punaise</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/07/22/fdl-book-salon-the-rise-of-the-blogosphere-by-aaron-barlow/#comment-840263</link>
		<dc:creator>punaise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jul 2007 23:09:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-840249&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Scarecrow @ 121&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;It is a truly phenomenal media, one that nurtures the entire democratic principle&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The comfortably ensconced seat-of-power MSM vs. the blogs:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;“Nay” chair vs. nurture.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-840249"><em>Scarecrow @ 121</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>It is a truly phenomenal media, one that nurtures the entire democratic principle</p>
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<p>The comfortably ensconced seat-of-power MSM vs. the blogs:</p>
<p>“Nay” chair vs. nurture.</p>
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		<title>By: Eureka Springs</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/07/22/fdl-book-salon-the-rise-of-the-blogosphere-by-aaron-barlow/#comment-840259</link>
		<dc:creator>Eureka Springs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jul 2007 23:06:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;FYI, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/07/22/the-poodles-are-ready-for-their-pj-party-senator-reid/&quot;&gt;Jane is upstairs&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FYI, <a href="http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/07/22/the-poodles-are-ready-for-their-pj-party-senator-reid/">Jane is upstairs</a></p>
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		<title>By: dmac</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/07/22/fdl-book-salon-the-rise-of-the-blogosphere-by-aaron-barlow/#comment-840253</link>
		<dc:creator>dmac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jul 2007 23:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;jane at 76 says-”It’s an interesting thought.  Will people going into journalism who are more comfortable with the two-way communication blogging offers see their job, and their audiences in a different fashion?”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;sorry, i was sidetracked for a while……..&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;yes, i have really wondered about this……my step-sister is a journalist in virginia, and i think about how media has changed since she entered into it wide-eyed in the early eighties…….&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;my best friend’s daughter has been involved in live journals and anything ‘net’, since the net was created, i like to think i had something to do with that, since i was an early net person…..she is 36, what she calls ‘media’ is far different from any generation proceeding her…….&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;everything evolves into a different form, so, what form is the media evolving into? has to be blogs…….or a form of it….the immediacy of it can’t be replicated….that is what is ‘usual’ now, what is comfortable to the generation coming up right now…….how could it not play a part?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;how could their view not be affected? and the way they disseminate information, would have to include and immediate form of information, and that is the blog……&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>jane at 76 says-”It’s an interesting thought.  Will people going into journalism who are more comfortable with the two-way communication blogging offers see their job, and their audiences in a different fashion?”</p>
<p>sorry, i was sidetracked for a while……..</p>
<p>yes, i have really wondered about this……my step-sister is a journalist in virginia, and i think about how media has changed since she entered into it wide-eyed in the early eighties…….</p>
<p>my best friend’s daughter has been involved in live journals and anything ‘net’, since the net was created, i like to think i had something to do with that, since i was an early net person…..she is 36, what she calls ‘media’ is far different from any generation proceeding her…….</p>
<p>everything evolves into a different form, so, what form is the media evolving into? has to be blogs…….or a form of it….the immediacy of it can’t be replicated….that is what is ‘usual’ now, what is comfortable to the generation coming up right now…….how could it not play a part?</p>
<p>how could their view not be affected? and the way they disseminate information, would have to include and immediate form of information, and that is the blog……</p>
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		<title>By: Laura Doty</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/07/22/fdl-book-salon-the-rise-of-the-blogosphere-by-aaron-barlow/#comment-840252</link>
		<dc:creator>Laura Doty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jul 2007 23:03:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-840249&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Scarecrow @ 121&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;What I was trying to emphasize about this new medium is how important is the role that readers play in their comments. One of the things Jane constantly emphasizes with us is the importance of stimulating a conversation — the self-correcting and educating process itself becomes the goal — not just posting for it’s own sake. And the conversations occur not only in the comments to the post but in the reactions the post stimulates in other blogs who might link to us.  And our comments bring the conversations back here.  It is a truly phenomenal media, one that nurtures the entire democratic principle, and it is astonishing that anyone in the traditional 4th estate would see it as anything other than a plus — unless they have other motives.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;YES!  Having a place like FDL gives me so much more hope about the concept of democracy.  And and I agree with you, S-crow, that the motives of some MS writers and their media are worth examining.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-840249"><em>Scarecrow @ 121</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>What I was trying to emphasize about this new medium is how important is the role that readers play in their comments. One of the things Jane constantly emphasizes with us is the importance of stimulating a conversation — the self-correcting and educating process itself becomes the goal — not just posting for it’s own sake. And the conversations occur not only in the comments to the post but in the reactions the post stimulates in other blogs who might link to us.  And our comments bring the conversations back here.  It is a truly phenomenal media, one that nurtures the entire democratic principle, and it is astonishing that anyone in the traditional 4th estate would see it as anything other than a plus — unless they have other motives.</p>
</blockquote>
<p>YES!  Having a place like FDL gives me so much more hope about the concept of democracy.  And and I agree with you, S-crow, that the motives of some MS writers and their media are worth examining.</p>
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		<title>By: Laura Doty</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/07/22/fdl-book-salon-the-rise-of-the-blogosphere-by-aaron-barlow/#comment-840250</link>
		<dc:creator>Laura Doty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jul 2007 22:58:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-840247&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;althespook @ 119&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-840245&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Laura Doty @ 118&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Yes, that’s the fascinating thing.  The net not only reflects a narrative, it co-creates it.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Rather like the inter-connected-ness of neurons and synapses in the living human brain….&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Exactly.  And with functions (memory, action) not just storyline.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-840247"><em>althespook @ 119</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-840245"><em>Laura Doty @ 118</em></a></p>
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<p>Yes, that’s the fascinating thing.  The net not only reflects a narrative, it co-creates it.</p>
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<p>Rather like the inter-connected-ness of neurons and synapses in the living human brain….</p>
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<p>Exactly.  And with functions (memory, action) not just storyline.</p>
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		<title>By: Scarecrow</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scarecrow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jul 2007 22:57:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;What I was trying to emphasize about this new medium is how important is the role that readers play in their comments. One of the things Jane constantly emphasizes with us is the importance of stimulating a conversation — the self-correcting and educating process itself becomes the goal — not just posting for it’s own sake. And the conversations occur not only in the comments to the post but in the reactions the post stimulates in other blogs who might link to us.  And our comments bring the conversations back here.  It is a truly phenomenal media, one that nurtures the entire democratic principle, and it is astonishing that anyone in the traditional 4th estate would see it as anything other than a plus — unless they have other motives.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What I was trying to emphasize about this new medium is how important is the role that readers play in their comments. One of the things Jane constantly emphasizes with us is the importance of stimulating a conversation — the self-correcting and educating process itself becomes the goal — not just posting for it’s own sake. And the conversations occur not only in the comments to the post but in the reactions the post stimulates in other blogs who might link to us.  And our comments bring the conversations back here.  It is a truly phenomenal media, one that nurtures the entire democratic principle, and it is astonishing that anyone in the traditional 4th estate would see it as anything other than a plus — unless they have other motives.</p>
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