Newest campaign ad from the Edwards campaign that just started running in New Hampshire this week. See what you think…
Jamison Foser has a great snapshot peek at the coverage that John Edwards has received from the political press — and how it seems eerily familiar to the treatment that Al Gore got in 2000. From Media Matters:
Marc Ambinder was one of the founders of ABC’s The Note and is a contributing editor to the National Journal’s Hotline newsletter. The Note and the Hotline consist largely of links to and excerpts of political news and commentary by other reporters with ample doses of snark and Rove-worship thrown in. Whatever they may lack in insight and judgment, The Note and the Hotline are at the center of the D.C. political media establishment.
Ambinder, in other words, is a political reporter whose job has largely been to understand the political media.
This week, Marc Ambinder explained why the media has covered John Edwards’ grooming regimen so much and Mitt Romney’s so little:
There is a difference in the political reality: fairly or unfairly, a healthy chunk of the national political press corps doesn’t like John Edwards.
Fairly or unfairly, there’s also a difference in narrative timing: when the first quarter ended, the press was trying to bury Edwards. It’s not so much interested in burying Romney right now — many reporters think he’s the Republican frontrunner.
Now, if reporters dislike a candidate, that’s their business. But when they wage a relentless and petty campaign to “bury” that candidate, that’s our business. All of us.
And we’ve been through this before.
The 2000 election was close enough that any number of things can fairly be described as having made the difference. But what Bob Somerby describes as the media’s “War Against Gore” was undoubtedly one of the biggest factors in Bush’s “victory.” The contempt many political reporters felt for Gore is clear, as is the inaccurate, unfair, and grossly distorted coverage of Gore that decided the campaign. And, again, you needn’t take my word for it: Bob Somerby, Eric Alterman, Eric Boehlert, and others have chronicled the acknowledgements by working journalists of their colleagues’ hate for Gore. Jake Tapper described reporters “hissing” — actually hissing — Gore. Time’s Eric Pooley described an incident in which a roomful of reporters “erupted in a collective jeer” of Gore “like a gang of 15-year-old Heathers cutting down some hapless nerd.”
And Joe Scarborough — conservative television host Joe Scarborough; former Republican Congressman Joe Scarborough — has said that during the 2000 election, the media “were fairly brutal to Al Gore. … [I]f they had done that to a Republican candidate, I’d be going on your show saying, you know, that they were being biased.”
Somerby has long argued that one of the reasons the media’s hatred for Gore was able to define the 2000 campaign so completely is that too few people talked about it — and demanded that it stop — at the time.
The relentless coverage of the Edwards’ haircut smacks of an incredible amount of hypocritical schadenfreude from these fake Heathers — since high-priced television news personalities, with their need for Botox-ed and groomed make-up and hair perfection, anti-aging oxygen facials, and such that is a requirement in a business that promotes image over substance relentlessly live those expensive haircut and spa treatments on a weekly basis. To hear the sort of faux populist spin that all of them have tried to put on the haircut nonsense, knowing both the salary requirements and the grooming regimins of these people is appalling enough.
But to hear all of this — and the recent “Hillary has boobs” expose (so to speak) — one notices a big, gaping pattern: why is it that Democratic candidates get the full Heathers treatment, while Hollywood Fred and Make-up Mitt and Rudy Guiliani and his travelling cross-dressing show, and all the other superficial gaffes and goofs get nary a mention?
The double standard has to stop. But it will only do so when we all stand up together and say collectively “enough.” I’m with Jamo — ENOUGH.



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IMPEACH!
Christy!
Is Nancy Pelosi a freakin’ GENIUS??
egregious @ 64
yes… is that a good thing or a badone.. he he
Morning all — Am just getting moving after a VERY late night at my high school reunion yesterday evening. Was good to see everyone, catch up and such. And it was funny to find out that a couple of folks had heard me on Air America and/or seen me on C-Span — too funny! The world is small these days, isn’t it? How is everyone this morning?
Well, said Christy. The progressives need to follow the GOP playbook. Pressure needs to be applied at all levels if we want to see a change in the way progressive candidates are covered by the media. Letters to the news organizations, letters to their sponsors, letters to our congress critters to get the fairness doctrine back and to break up the media conglomarates that are able to control access to information. Some serious anti-trust action needs to be applied to media organizations.
Yeah. Why?
And why does a sanctimonious hypocrite like Mitch McConnell get to go on national cable “news” network like CNN — as he did just now — and spew lies and distortions, while looking completely spineless and chinless and every bit the sleazy, cheezy political stereotype, yet no one ever brings that up?
Disgusting. And while I’ve been hanging on the Prez race sidelines, I’ve been contemplating throwing Edwards some support for a variety of reasons, not the least of which is this field needs some serious levelling!
(oooh, Edwards’ guy now on with Wolfie — may be interesting!)
Hi, Christy! Central FL is alive and well-glad to hear you had a good time at the reunion.
I have a few simple questions. Why would the MSM prefer a Republican to a Democrat in the White House? What does a Republican administration offer the MSM that a Democratic administration does not?
What role has media consolidation played in the turn from a “liberal media bias” to a “conservative media bias”? How do the changes from two-tier to one-tier (common stock) share structures affect the journalistic independence of media companies?
In other words, consolidated media will always be more profitable under a corporatist administration than under a working-class administration. Edwards was the closest thing to a working-class presidential candidate. So the corporate media set about destroying him.
There is no conspiracy here. There are simply “market forces at work.”
One of keys to answering these personal attacks is the growth of the progressive blogosphere since 2000. We now have a means to provide the alternative message to those who see through the media-corporate, rethuglican bulls$it.
Swiftboating will not work despite the kool kids in the media.
Exellent points better made janda.Thanks
Not bad for a 30 second PR spot.
I’m a woman,feminist,liberal treehugger,lol. I don’t want Hillary to win the nomination. I feel like the GOP hacks and media bloviators WANT her to be our choice,and that alone is enough to give me pause. She is NOT a progressive,and that word should not be applied to her or her husband’s politics.
I like Edwards(to be truthful though,I like Mrs Edwards even more,lol),and I think he scares the crap out of the wingnuts. That alone is worth more than a few points.
I just hate it that the campaigning is starting already. Who decided that was a brilliant idea?
They thought we were gadflies the last election. Ha! We were just getting warmed up!
OT ~ When you’re that far right…everything is left!
Kristol Rips YearlyKos, Run By A ‘Left-Wing Blogger’…
Between floaties on the Lake, passing
((((More Coffee for Christy))))
A quick attaboy to the lake. It seems that just last week, all the folks at Air America found out what inherent contempt was. We’ve known for quite some time here, thanks to the work of the posters.
One nagging worry about the inherent contempt process is what position the Secret Service will take on the Congressional Sergeant-at -Arms marching up to the White House, warrent in hand. Given how badly they blew it at the Armstrong Ranch in Armstrong, Texas, I kave very little faith in their loyalty to the constitution over the man occupying the office.
Still watching “Betraying Our Troops: The Destructive Results of Privatizing War” Rasor/Baumann on CSPAN-2.
Please go to Feingolds dkos diary and make a comment. My concern is that his diary makes it clear that he still has not watched Moyer’s special on impeachment. He does not answer any of the concerns brought up by the show. I begged him to watch Moyers and then speak to me about it. I want to hear his response to that show and the concerns about defending our constitution.
If you agree with me, please go to his diary and beg him to watch the show, or if he has watched it, to respond to the concerns that the show outlines. It completely changed my mind about impeachment and I have yet to see a post from anyone who has seen the show that still believes that impeachment is not the right thing to do.
We must impeach to defend our constitution or we will be engaging in the same behavior that Bush has been engaging in for the last 7 years.
It’s not about winning, it’s about following the law and the constitution the way it was laid out by our founding fathers.
That’s what Edwards gets for representing the commoners, he’ll get trashed by all the media that is owned by our American Royals.
Gore went through it, true, but he was never the defender of the common man that Edwards is. For all his wonderful work, Al’s still “a senator’s son,” (From “Fortunate Son”), so Edwards can expect even greater scrutiny and obstacles to be tossed at him. It is the same corporate beast creating these obstacles, that opposed Gore particularly for his environmental stand, and they will be even more determined against Edwards than Gore.
They are so fearful of economic class warfare, especially the common people joining together to rein in the worst corporate violators, that they will take our populist, middle-class leaders out of every loop, at every opportunity.
When the day comes that we finally rule ourselves from the middle class, instead of the corporate board rooms, we will have a real Democracy. And even the corporations will benefit. But so will the rest of us.
And that is the difference between the Democratic vision and the Republican conspiracy.
Lou Costello @ 3
Well, I hope occam’s hatchet is right. Never before in history has there been a more egregious assault on the Constitution, and if the Democrats do not do their duty, then they are little better than the Republicans, because, in effect, they are colluding with the Repub-Fascists.
Bob in
HI WIAZI think we have reached the era of Occam’s sledgehammer…
Another wonderful, sunny, blue sky western Oklahoma morning. And I’m on KP duty. I don’t mind.
Rayne @ 92
Fighting the foot soldiers of the President’s obstruction of Congress strategy is a good approach.
Why Congress cannot rollover on Presidential obstruction of Congressional oversight, is a big constitutional issue that can be fought directly in the political realm, not in the courts.
The real threat to our nation is the lawlessness of the executive’s policies and their unjustifiable excessive secrecy that enables the lawless policies. Congress’s constitional duty to provide oversight has been hampered by the executive’s secrecy and outright obstruction. Adjuciation of these issues in the courts would allow Bush/Cheney to run out the clock. Impeachment, adjudication of these issues in Congress, is is not only prudent it is necessary.
Michael Harold @ 9
Nails it. Edwards is the only one who truly represents a threat to the system, and he has thus been marked for destruction.
John Edwards/Wesley Clark ‘08
Katie Jensen @ 17
I agree with your perspective on the issue of whether ignoring criminal Bush/Cheney policies or censuring them or impeaching is the right course.
Dina Rasor has some really good things to say about Claire McCaskill.
bobschacht @ 19
;0)
Christy Hardin Smith @ 5
Morning, Christy!
My high school reunion was remarkable for the hair changes in the guys: it took some getting-used-to, seeing the gray hairs and balding heads.
We’ve held 40th and 45th reunions, and the thing that upsets me the most are the deaths of my classmates, a relatively small class of only 66– so I knew everyone. My teen heart-throb, the cutest girl in the class, died of ovarian cancer between our reunions. She was just as attractive as a person at our 40th as before, and had become a respected professional psychologist. I still can’t get over that one. Others have died, or are seriously ill. With the health problems I’ve had, I marvel that I am still alive, and they aren’t. It seems unnatural.
My vacation is drawing to a close, and tomorrow I fly back to Hawaii. It has been a good vacation, and soon I’ll be back at work.
Bob in
HI WIAZGood morning. I was doing quite well this morning, thank you, until I got the Sunday paper from the mailbox. On the front page, taking about 80% of the above-the-fold space, was an article (fawning is what I call it) about Michelle Bachmann. Oh my. How much did she have to pay for that tribute.
I tried to link and I could only link to the subscription page. Didn’t think anyone wanted to subscribe just to read about Bachmann the Bush-kisser.
janda @ 6
I agree, on all counts! Excellent points!
Bob in
HI WIAZOh, dear. I’m sitting here in the studio, writing music, and Christy sez “The world is small these days, isn’t it?” – and guess what song hit me right in the middle of my brain?
That’s OK, Redd – I need a break for a few minutes. I’ll go find some inner ear bleach. We took the kids to Disneyland when my son was almost five, and he was already too old for that ride.
Why did the press not like Gore in 2000? Do they like him now?
Nola Sue @ 7
McConnell’s wife, Elaine L. Chao, our Labor Secretary – Mt. Holyoke ‘75 and HBS MBA – thinks the American worker needs to be more attentive to personal hygiene. I assume she’s talking about it as a work place issue.
OhmiGod! Robert Novack is coming up sometime later on CSPAN-2 to talk about the books that influenced him.
Any guess what those books might be?
Why Hate Gore or Edwards is it just their ideas? Whats wrong with Gore’s issue the enviroment if anything he has made them eat crow with his popular movie.
Outside of Republicans in Congress and the White House Climate Change is accepted as reality the Political Hack Press Core missed the boat on that one.
Edwards has a good not great healthcare plan but his concern for the poor in a country of increasing haves and have nots shows his awarness of issues quite often over looked by the Press.
I wonder if the press has figured out that by not talking about and making fun of imporpant issues in order to please their corporate clients they are killing their readers/viewer base and ratings. Giving blogs like this a huge boost!
The press used to have a liberal bias but now with the way they treated Gore and Edwards with petty attacks they do not do to Themselves or Republican candidates they show their conservative bias.
They fear to address real democratic ideas so they don’t address them they go for personal attacks instead. Notice they never go after Bush’s lack of ideas. Stay the course got old after the first year of failure. What new ideas do the GOP candidates have? (stay the course).
Gore isn’t cool and somehow the Washington Press IS ? Maureen Dowd makes fun of someone else’s attempts to stay young ? I’m thinking all the uncool people in highschool who never got over it joined the press or went into politics and reinvented themselves and their memories of who they were. Now they want subconciously want revenge on the world!
Neil @ 31
Ah yes! Those proletarians! Ms. Chao must run around with a perfumed handkerchief held to her nose. What happens if the dirty unwashed masses inherit the earth? How will her nose survive?
mui @ 32
Ignatius J. Reilly Lives…
Neil @ 31
Yeesh. Another case of too much book learning and not enough practical experience.
That must be it, of course, the reason why our manufacturing jobs are being sent offshore to countries like China…their workers spend a lot more time on manicures and haircuts than our workers do here.
Jeebus, what a moron.
ET at 30 — Sorry about that — that song is a nasty ear worm. Quick, go listen to some Mozart to cleanse your musical palette… *g*
Gore for President.
I agree that the MSM treats Edwards just like they did Gore in 2000. Judging by their skewed coverage you can tell that they don’t want him to win this nomination.
David Bonior just mentioned on CNN that the polls show Edwards beating all of the Republican candidates in a head-to-head matchup. And I believe he even said that these head-to-head numbers for Edwards are even greater than the margin that Hiliary’s numbers show (I’d have to check the transcript to double check this). Have you heard any of this reported? I haven’t. All I ever hear is that the polls show Hiliary can beat the Republicans. No other candidate is ever mentioned which gives the viewers a false impression that Hiliary is the only candidate that can win. The other candidates representatives on CNN didn’t disagree with what Bonior said so I’m assuming that what he said is correct.
It is clear to me from watching the MSM that they have already decided that Hiliary will be the candidate and they will continue to try to make this a reality with their biased reporting unless we can stop them.
Chrisy – you know we’d love to hear about your reunion, whether there were surprises, or whether there were folks you missed…
But I wonder if you have new readers now and you have to be more circumspect — don’t answer that.
;-)
Chris Bowers had an interesting take on the necessary ground rules at OpenLeft.com. He suggested that we ask all of the candidates how much is acceptable to pay for a haircut? How much cleavage can a candidate show? How many medals someone has to have before they are considered legitimate? He concluded his excellent piece by saying:
“A little transparency goes a long way toward building trust. It would also be a service to presidential campaigns, since they would better know how not to anger the national media. Open communication is an essential part of any healthy relationship, and the ability to read minds is still in dispute among the scientific community. If neither the public nor presidential campaigns understand what you find to be acceptable, how can we be expected to make you happy?”
I agree with him. Petty minds need petty rules.
The secretary of education was ready to talk student loans and No Child Left Behind when interviewed by Washington Post editors and reporters last week. So maybe she was taken aback when asked why she turned down Karl Rove when he asked her out in the early ’80s.
(Rove later joked it took his ego “decades to recover.”)
Spellings paused, then said: “Have you met Karl Rove?
“He was so inept and so inartful,” she added. “I mean, I couldn’t even understand.”
Morning all!
JEP @ 18
Everything old is still old with Rudy: Terrorist Derangement Syndrome
Recall also that the MSM was a big Bush supporter in his blood thirsty quest to attack Iraq. If the press had done their job Bush would never have become president. But they (the press) kept on screaming how likeable this nit-wit was. And that there was more to this character (intelligence wise) than met the eye.
Katie Jensen @ 17
I think you are right. We need to take back the consitution, the right to claim ‘founding fathers (& mothers) intent’, and lay claim to the flag as a symbol of freedom. Our side has room for the concept of ‘original intent’, i.e. democratic representation subject to protection from tyranny. The other side is horrified by letting people make anything but pre-approved choices for themselves.
Neil @ 31
This is laughable..
When Raygun started the Corporate war against the middle class, The IT industry was flooded with under-qualified foreign workers.. A local company got so many complaints against the personal hygiene of these alien workers, they had to sent them to Personal Hygiene classes !!!
The message about Edwards hair, led by Fox News, was not about Edwards hair. It was an attempt to defeat the Democratic brand of listening to the people.
This is why Edwards is so dangerous to the Republicans and their enablers in the MSM: he is the most tangible of those who are trying to represent those among us who are the least.
I don’t give a damn about his money or his hair, but Edwards knows from poor and that is who are most dangerous to the power structure of Republicans.
It is all about the brand.
Christy quoted:
Then
Patty Morlan @ 39 wrote,
So, does this mean that Karl Rove fears Edwards?
Bob in
HI WIAZbobschacht @ 19
Bob,
Did you move? or are you just travelling?
dead last @ 46
I think it might be effective to “re-issue” the declaration of independence. The points that they laid out have striking similarities to today’s situation. I think it might help the progressives reclaim the founders.
I’m TRYING to get my blog done, but i just can’t avoid posting this piece from Cliff Schecter: Kansas GOP Desperate, Resorts To Demanding Loyalty Oaths.
You just can’t make this stuff up.
I’m so surprised. Reminds of Iran-Contra.
U.S. bending rules on Colombia terror?
Several lawmakers say multinationals that aid violent groups in return for protection are not being prosecuted.
http://www.latimes.com/news/na…..ome-center
Why wouldn’t the Rs continue Rovian tactics? They work. And (too-dumb-to-live) Ds don’t defend themselves.
looseheadprop,
I left a note for you a few days ago but guess you had already left. It looks like you’re quite busy but I’m betting if you ever make it back to facebook that you’ll have a lot of friend requests to wade through. :})
has anyone on the lake seen more on this? is this valid, an overreaction, misquoting, somebody’s fervent wish, what?
Conyers says If 3 more members favor impeachment he’ll start proceedings
He specifically didn’t answer when asked if the impeachment was for bush or cheney….
This man is just plain mean.
Bush could face first veto override
A plan to expand a program that insures low-income children has wide support in both houses of Congress.
WASHINGTON — As they tell the story in Texas, when George W. Bush was governor, he fought hard to put austere limits on a new federal-state plan to provide health insurance for children of low-wage workers in the state. Outmaneuvered by Democrats, he corralled the program’s chief sponsor on the statehouse floor and conceded defeat, saying, “You crammed it down our throats.”
Now, almost 10 years later, President Bush is threatening to veto federal legislation that would renew the same partnership — the State Children’s Health Insurance Program — and expand it to cover more of the nation’s nearly 9 million uninsured children.
Durbin on Blitzer. Weak performance, as usual.
A natural concern if you yourself are full of sh*t.
When someone (chimpy) says: the poor have health care, they can just go to an emergency room, you might want to direct them here.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 53
coke is the drink of the death squads
you-all know david rovics, right?
CHS
Glad to hear you enjoyed your high school reunion.
Is it my imagination, or are we experiencing a “Potter Drought” in the comments? (I am Potter-challenged.)
Chris Bowers misses the point — you don’t stop the Beltway Heathers by reinforcing their narratives; you shut them up by putting the fear of God (and unemployment) in them.
The way to end this pathetic excuse for journalism is with flamethrowers and righteous indignation. Scorch the editors, publishers, and reporters — boycott the advertisers who sponsor Rush, Hannity, and O’Lielly.
Until they are given the full “Conservative Bias in the Media” treatment, they will never learn — or stop their partisan attacks on all Democrats.
Until Marc Ambinder and his ilk are demoted to the dogcatcher beat in Podunk Alabama, they will keep on doing what they do — serve their Right Wing Masters with hit pieces on Democrats, while chowing down at the bottomless crock pot of cocktail weenies.
CHS “Now, if reporters dislike a candidate, that’s their business. But when they wage a relentless and petty campaign to “bury” that candidate, that’s our business. All of us.”
And if the MSM ever really starts paying attention to the fact that the majority of the American public (listen to C-Span) has had it with their spin and their endless focus on BS that does not matter. The flocks of people who are turning to the internet and blogs to access accurate and critical information may consider trying them again. Until then the American people will look for the truth where they can find it.
Christy do you have any clue as to why the mainstream press folk object to Edwards? Is it more of the “groupthink” phenomena?
When I heard the hair cut attacks on Edwards and met him at a fund raiser in Tucson the next week, I knew they were going the Howard Dean “Yeehaaa” trashing. My comment…. they are doing a Howard Dean on him!
Edwards is the face of the so called Republican myth of making it rich by pulling your self up by your bootstraps BUT he is a true Blue Democrat. AND the corporations DO NOT want him as Prez, as their goal is zero wages, benefits and our noses to the grindstones so that we have NO time to protest what they are doing to us.
Christy, just loading tons of pictures from Crete & Greece, have a Greek cookbook for you which I will give to you at Yearlykos if you are going to be there.
althespook @ 63
Considering the lockdown on info by my lovely other that might be a spoiler has been extended to what I read as well, I am now Potter-trained.
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Why is it that when I try to play the ad, my browser brings me to another post of CHS?
Muzzy @ 67
But you do look very nice in your Sorting Hat. (And I have read the epilogue so I know stuff. Out of fear for my life I am keeping quiet.)
The Video is also linked to
http://www.firedoglake.com/200…..just-in-5/
which is probably a typo or bug
The world after George W. Bush:
PRESIDENT BUSH has hinted more than once that he expects to leave to his successor the task of ending America’s military occupation of Iraq. His reasons for doing so may go beyond calculations about the time needed to establish security and a functioning government in Iraq, beyond a reluctance to enter history as a president who presided over the retreat from a lost war. Perhaps Bush senses that the change of direction required to cut the nation’s losses in Iraq would expose the flagrant misconceptions on which his conduct of the Iraq war was based.
Bush will be leaving his successor a strategic situation, in a wide arc around Iraq, that is far more dangerous than the one he inherited. Iran and its ally of convenience, Syria, have their hands at the throat of Lebanon. Iran is projecting its power not only through Shi’ite Hezbollah in Lebanon but also through its support for Palestinian Islamic Jihad and Hamas. As Tehran pursues a nuclear weapons capability, frightened Sunni Arab states are considering problematic options: to develop their own nuclear capabilities or to reach accommodations with an ascendant Iran.
In Iraq and elsewhere, Bush’s successor will be called on to clean up a staggering mess. Above all, this will mean returning to the principles of US foreign policy as practiced by every other president since FDR. Particularly after the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks, Bush and his advisers presumed that this hoary old approach was no longer relevant. But the record shows that Bush has not succeeded in rewriting the rules of statecraft. Proceeding from false premises, he came to false conclusions. His successor, whether a Democrat or a Republican, will need to revive the internationalist traditions of his predecessors to clean up the mess he is leaving behind.
althespook @ 56
We can do this…and once the investigation starts, everyone will get on board.
Christy agree completely with your conclusion
“The double standard has to stop. But it will only do so when we all stand up together and say collectively “enough.” I’m with Jamo — ENOUGH.”
A few post ago someone suggested that we spend less time blasting the MSM for the lack of focus on the seriously diverse issues that face our nation and the world. I disagree. If we do not let them know that we seriously object when they focus on Hillary’s clothes, hair, whether she is warm and cozy her husbands past behaviour or whether Al Gore has lost weight (hello Chris Matthews) then they will never change. (they may not any way, but it is worth the shot to let them know that we expect more out of them)
Lou Costello @ 72
But did it really happen? I’ve seen TexB’s blog post and several others that all seem to link somehow to the account I linked. But there is nothing elsewhere. I don’t want to get my knickers in a twist over someone’s accidental or deliberate misunderstanding of a comment by Conyers at this fundraiser being recounted on a radio interview…
parsley @ 68
Marshall @ 70
Video Link
mui -
Dog! Rasor started the mother of POGO; no wonder I liked her so much. ;-) I’m gonna be hitting Follow the Money every day.
chimpeachment proceedings now!
kryptonite to WH refusing subpoenas and ordering US Attorney in DC to refuse to prosecute contempt citations.
why?
because impeachment demands investigation by committee and the House. The House has the constitutional right to evidence. sure chimpy can refuse, but then you have contempt.
And ordering non-prosecution is a stand-alone impeachment charge that is true on its face.
You mean the MSM is trying to trivialize and smear a Democratic candidtate? I’m shocked I tell you, I’m shocked!
In 2000, the majority of the Press appeared to think that Gore was some sort of loser, and W was a good guy. Or, to put it more clearly, W was “one of them” and Gore was not.
A more fundamental error of judgement can hardly be imagined. Truly, they have been weighed in the balance and found wanting.
The double standard has to stop. But it will only do so when we all stand up together and say collectively “enough.” I’m with Jamo — ENOUGH.
The most straightforward way of doing this is to not buy their papers or watch their shows. Find your own sources of news. It’s not just that these people are unlikely to change (nor are their funding sources), it’s that their judgement is so disastrously wrong that even if they did change, they still couldn’t be trusted.
This stuff really pisses me off. Why do these guys, in this case the AP feel the need to call Feingold “Liberal Democratic Senator”. Of course I know the answer to my own question. I don’t see the MSM referring to ‘the right-wing fascist President Bush’.
WASHINGTON – Liberal Democratic Sen. Russ Feingold said Sunday he wants Congress to censure President Bush for his management of the Iraq war and his “assault” against the Constitution.
janda @ 51
Every day, as an individual, you have to decide to recommit (or not) to your partner, your job, and your vision. Recommitment is not necessarily on on/off switch, rather the implications are much more nuanced. As a nation, we have to recommit (or not) to the ideas of liberty as outlined in the Declaration of Independence, the Constitution, and most importantly, the Bill of Rights.
Just being here at FDL is a sign that we all are making some type of evaluation and renewal of our faith in the American democratic experience. The other side, while paying lip service to the concepts, really prefers tyranny. They are from the same vein as the monarchists in the American revolution and the royalists after the French Revolution: people who fundamentally believe that God has ordained an hierarchy as proven by the benefits of wealth bestowed upon its members.
It sounds like we are still fighting the American Revolution, so a re-commitment to the Declaration of Independence is indeed in order!
But the press was right. W IS just like them.
Lou Costello @ 75
Thanks Lou and Marshall.
dakine01 @ 55
I cannot figure out how to get to facebook. When Jane started it, she put all the front page folks in for us, and one time she put up a link, but I haven’t figured out how to get there on my own (not that I spent any time trying to figure it out–Littleprop is away and said she would teach me when she came home)
And yeah, I have been kinda busy lately. My doctor finally let me back into the gym to tryto rebuild all the lost muscle tone from tha accident, soI am spending 2 hours a day exercising (and starting to see some real progress, woopee!) and trying reboot a bunch of projects that I had to let go by the boards during my trial.
If not mistaken there is a schedule march in Washington D.C. on September 15. If this is true it’s the duty and responsibility of the blogs and alternative media to get the word out. The Hispanic media was instrumental in bringing out millions of Latino’s during immigration protests. It’s mandatory that alternative media do the same. 2 million people on the streets of D.C. cannot be ignored by the MSM or the politicians.
“Give Impeachment a chance”
Bluetoe @ 86
can you provide a link to more details or the name of the action march?
this cannot be said enough – IMPEACH!! bushco keeps displaying contempt for congress especially now that the dems are in charge….executive privilege trumps congressional oversight…how long will the country abide this arrogant display?
althespook @ 88
Working on it.
In what way does Edward’s personal wealth disqualify him as a spokesman for the less fortunate? No one seems to answer this question, only pose as some sort of conventional wisdom that it does.
The greatest advocate for the poor, and their greatest benefactor in our history, the man who gave us Social Security, the WPA, the CCC and the TVA and shepherded this country though its most difficult times, a depression and a World War, was a very wealthy man, from a very wealthy family.
FDR was rich enough to be called “A traitor to his class” by those who opposed him. This needs to be brought up in connection with Edwards, as it demolishes the silly arguments against him.
Force feeding at Guantanamo
http://www.informationclearing…..e18052.htm
looseheadprop @ 85
If you can remember your user name and password, you should be able to just click on the little “f” beside some of our names. That will take you first to your facebook login. Enter the info and you will see the person whose “f” you clicked. From there, just click the “Profile” link or “Facebook” link that will be showing on the top of the page as it will be your info
One link to the September 15th March On Washington.
http://answer.pephost.org/site…..S_homepage
Morris Sheppard @ 91
Voice of sanity. Thank you Morris.
JEP @ 18
I agree. The media have constructed a narrative for the 2008 Democratic nomination made up of status quo candidates like Hillary and Obama. Edwards is someone who rocks the boat, a populist, and that is something deeply feared not just by the corporations that own the media but by the journalists in their comfy jobs who work for it. So the conclusion is obvious: trivialize him, distort his message, and above all marginalize, marginalize, marginalize.
Bluetoe @ 94
Thanks. It appears to be an anti-war rather than pro-impeachment march. But I certainly agree that when the time comes, we may have to fill Washington D.C. with pro-impeachment protesters. (And be careful about GOP thugs making trouble to enable police action to “keep order” and all the usual bag of dirty tricks…)
Bob @ 49:
So, does this mean that Karl Rove fears Edwards?
I read a while back that Rove did fear Edwards more than any other Dem candidate in 2004 – from what I recall as a credible source but I can’t place the source.
I think the rethugs want to run against either Clinton or Obama. Clinton because they think they can capitalize on her high negatives, while Obama would galvanize their racist base. The discussion on the last thread about the conglomerate media plays here also – the two Dem candidates preferred by the rethugs are those presented in the media as the only viable candidates.
The corporatists want a compliant candidate who will allow them to continue their plutocracy. Don’t forget that they did quite well under Bill Clinton, and have had no problem supporting Dems in the past – Delay‘s K street project was all about getting that funding diverted to rethugs. The jury is still out on Obama (although I personally have little hope), but both Clinton and any rethug (probably Fred) would be conglomerate enablers. With a Clinton candidacy, the plutocrats can crow to the rest of us, “Heads I win, tails you lose!”
Let’s get the ball rolling and make sure there are 2 million people on the streets in D.C. on Sept. 15. I’m starting to get people to sign up on a charter bus trip. Everyone on the blogs should take the initiative to do likewise. In every crossroads, hamlet, village, town and city across the land the time to act is now! It’s time to step away from the keyboard and step out onto the street.
Nonsense!! It has nothing to do with liking and disliking.
These people are professionals. They are paid hit men. When their sponsors tell them to assassinate someone, they assassinate them. They don’t have to dislike their victims.
newtonusr @ 95
FDL learned much about “betraying his class” from his revered ancestor, Theodore Roosevelt.
althespook @ 97
Hi Alfred.
I went to the march 2 years ago September. Every 5th person had a camera, and every 15th or so had a video camera. No worries. We have the art on our side now.
wigwam @ 100
There is no reason that an anti-war march cannot also be a pro-impeachment march. It’s time to forge the necessary alliances and band together for the greater good. United we stand, divided we fall.
newtonusr @ 102
Good. I’m just remembering that whole L.A. police riot against the immigration protesters and more importantly journalists. Brings back bad memories of Chicago in 1968. Let’s avoid that this time.
althespook @ 101
Actually TR was not an ancestor of FDR. They were fifth cousins. He was also fifth cousin to Eleanor, his wife, who was TR’s niece.
althespook @ 101
Uh, I’m sure “FDL” and many of us here learned about betraying our class from revered ancestors as well, but I’m thinkin’ you prol’ly meant FDR. :})
Fascinating that Robert Fisk is down on bloggers (does he feel threatened too?)
He makes it clear about the double standard that exist in the media (and in many peoples heads) when it come to calling genocide a genocide. The press should(and are willing) to call the staughter of 6 million Jews, 3 million Poles, 1 million gypsies, gays, handicapped etc>) a clear genocide. Yet when it comes to Iraq the press and the public seem hesitant to call the killing in Iraq a genocide. We hear words like “mess, quagmire, civil war” but not genocide.
Dissapointing that Fisk only mentions the 6 million Jews that were so brutally killed during WWII.
This happens over and over again in the MSM. This is so wrong and negligent. What about the other people who were murdered during WWII? Why are these people not mentioned in the MSM?
When you mention all of the different groups slaughtered it gives strength, unity and truth to what took place during any genocide.
Fisk article
http://www.informationclearing…..e18053.htm
Fisk article
dakine01 @ 107
Ouch! ya got me…(staggers to edit button, covered in….something…)
UPDATE: Edit button no workie. Oh well. I guess we’ll have to say it was an “FDL-ian Slip”. :)
I don’t believe the corporate overlords are dictating to MSM hacks – it’s more subtle than that, and there are exceptions (if this is reliable).
http://makethemaccountable.com/coverup/Part_04.htm
Let me be the first to mea culpa – when I was in the corporate world, frontline employees knew things the public and the government would like to know. Corporate policy was frontline employees talking to the media got fired. Period. So I didn’t talk to the media – I found other ways to skin the cat. So if you’re Couric, Russert, et.al, there is built in bias to not bite the hand that feeds you.
Second, reporters used to swim in working class circles. Now they vacation in Martha’s Vineyard with the rich and famous, and sonofagun, they are rich and famous too.
These are not hotbeds of social awareness. I’ve been to a few of the moneyed do’s, and the contempt they hold for working people equals the contempt whites had for blacks in the old South.
What has is resulted is a media that is liberal on a handful of social issues (abortion, gun control)but definitely free market.
This way, the fundamentalists hate the media, the liberal meme stays alive, and the media pats us on the head and says everything is just fine as we get mugged.
Or more simply, the media is a perfect corporate tool.
FDR trivia
IIRC, FDR had more daughters-in-law than grandchildren. Every one of his children was divorced 2 or 3 times, some more.
wigwam @ 100
It’s time to “assassinate the assassinators.” The MSM has had a free pass for far to long. They have to be deligitamatize in the eyes of the public. Time to take the battle to the doorsteps of the MSM.
newtonusr @ 102
You can say that again about the cameras. Every march I have been to since before the invasion is filmed tens of thousands of times. Lawyers filming for abuse, Police filming the film crews filming for abuse, etc etc.
Morris Sheppard @ 106
yeah I should have said “relative”. I’m new to this commenting stuff, gimme a break here….:)
Here’s Jim Cramer’s take on Edwards.
http://mediamatters.org/items/200702260004
The Traditional Media are scared most of Edwards, in my judgment, and for that reason he is constantly marginalized. There’s a financial show called Mad Money with Jim Cramer. I have seen him RANT about Edwards because of Edwards take on hedge funds. So it is not just the corporate agenda, which is lower taxes, less regulations and more war. It is personal agendas for the multimillionaires who set the corporate agenda.
Edwards being treated by media as was Gore? Good. If I recall correctly, Gore won.
looseheadprop @ 50
Just winding up a 2-week vacation. I’ll be back in Hawaii late tomorrow.
Bob in
HI WIAZPresident Bush and all the Republican Presidential Candidates are prowar but the press never asks them how they are going to pay for it. However they let Bush and company beat up on Democrats for raising taxes.
Taxes that will have to be raised to pay for this war.
If we only spent what France does on on healthcare per person then we as indivuduals and as a government could save money. But the press doesn’t talk about the healthcare issue because they like paying more money? They think they being rich would have to pay more so that the poor get care and they don’t care about the poor?
Poor people without healthcare does not effect them or so they think. The waitress who goes into work sick and sneezes on their food in the kitchen because she doesn’t have paid sick days does not effect them.
The Nanny with no healthcare who takes care of their kids gets drug resistant TB but doesn’t know because she can’t afford to go to a doctor.
Rather than ignoring disease until you have to go to the emergency room, by which time you have infected God knows how many people. Who will also need to get treated its cheaper to catch the disease early. Before the disease gets resistance to antibiotics.
One day the press will wake up to the fact that antibiotic resistant disease has spread to their waitresses and nannies and that THEIR healthcare plans CAN’T protect them.
Helping others to help yourself helps society as a whole. The reverse of this idea screwing others screws yourself over and society.
wigwam@100
thats an interesting way to explain msm – it kinda fits i think….
Sorta OT:
I’m becoming dependent on the Google Wikipedia Search Gadget/Widget for the Google Sidebar Thingie. Freaking addictive. Gah.
ahem,
ahem.
“What is this president trying to hide?”
tap tap tappity tap tap …
(i’m helping with this re-framing job here.
Thers or Ian or Pach suggested it, the above question.
i forget who, but i think it nails the issue(s) for the cheneybu$hco supporters.
and here’s a little more helpful hammering)
tap tap bam bam bam …
What is the President trying to hide?
What is the President trying to hide?
~ carry on
Marshall @ 80
I would add that the MSM spin on Gore was that he was a liar, and with that addition I would agree that a more fundamental error of judgment can hardly be imagined.
(I also take the e out of judgment.) ;-}
althespook @ 114
Not criticism, merely a correction from a somewhat compulsive, accuracy obsessed history buff.
althespook @ 101
TR was not an ancestor of FDR. They were related through Elainor.
Addressing media coverage. Anyone seen, or heard much coverage of the A*P*C espionage investigation and trial delays in the MSM?
I have been watching and listening closely. One time Chris Matthews mentioned one of the delays, never again. Even the blogosphere will barely touch this topic, investigation, trial delays. ( I don’t care what the bloggers try to claim, they will barely touch this issue)
If this investigation had to do with Ireland, Poland, Russia, China or any other nation “allegedly” spying on the U.s. or the heads of a Pac associated with a particular country passing classified intelligence about Iran onto that country’s officials, the MSM would be all over it..all over it. But they are not and I firmly believe it is because it is Israel and the Israeli lobby that is involved and being protected.
Bluetoe @ 112
The trick would be to pick one and make an example of him/her. I suggest picking one of the most visible, e.g., Broder. And, it would take cooperation from at least a few respected journalists. But there have to be more than a few who realize that what is going on is wrong, and who resent it.
Laura Flanders on C-SPAN2. (Yes, you can go back; Novak’s gone.)
You know, this Youtube debate thing is such a set up. Videos handpicked by CNN…
Guess what? According to CNN, Homelandians are not all that worried about the Iraq occupation…
One video of a man with his two sons…the one young son, about 10, asks what are you going to do about global warming — If you don’t do something, we will have to swim to the mall…snark already in place!
we say ENOUGH! – i say its time to hit the bricks in full force and depend impeachment and restoration of constitutional freedoms before they’re executive privileged away….dems say impeachment is off the table – we say IMPEACH!!
or the mattresses?
new thread upstairs
althespook @ 120
wikipedia used to suck ALL the time. Now it just sorta sucks. But I’ve gotten to be the same way. I almost always have a wikipedia window open. I just asked it about “potato blight” and it re-directed me to “Phytophthora infestans” automatically, without hassling me about it.
Seattle P-I has a great guest editorial on Alito:
In what may have been the most pro-business U.S. Supreme Court term in decades, standing out as companies’ No. 1 ally was no small feat.
Justice Samuel Alito managed it in his first full year.
As the court term ended, Alito emerged as the justice friendliest to the interests of corporations. He sided with the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, the nation’s largest business lobby, in 13 of 14 cases this term, more often than any of his colleagues. He cast votes to limit punitive damages, ease regulation and restrict suits by investors, consumers and alleged victims of job bias.
“On the cases where it’s possible to differentiate the justices, he’s been on the pro-business side every time,” said Roy Englert, a Washington lawyer with Robbins Russell Englert Orseck & Untereiner who won a telecommunications case he argued before the court this year….
parsley @ 68
Me too. Something’s wrong with the link to the ad — when I click on it, I go to CHS’s Friday post about Hillary’s cleavage.
TeddySanFran @ 133
Teddy – FireFox and Safari ok for me. Hard refresh maybe…
Correction – the Safari beta doesn’t work, prior does.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 45
And unfortunately there was less than met the eye – and too much Big Dick Cheney!
All I can say to the media elite is this….If you can’t stand him, then he has to be good. He’s got my vote.
(Of course that’s not the only reason I’m supporting him, but I do so love when these expert prognosticators are proved wrong.)
God, this is just like Harry Potter minus the magic.
Patty Morlan @ 39
I’ve been following these poll trend lines for some months and yup, that’s what they show – Edwards beating every Republican. It’s not part of the news, tho.
Patty Morlan @ 39
Edwards has been the ONLY Democrat to win or draw in ALL the one-on-one match-up polls, and both Clinton and Obama still get popped by one or another Republican.
Those of us who have supported Edwards are in the same class as those of us who supported Dean back after his Sacramento anti-war speech in February of 2003. Many of still believe Dean, had he been able to beat the DLC machine and Kerry, would have beaten Bush.
No way to know for certain, and I again reiterate that I will gladly and enthusiastically support Hillary of Barrack if they win the primaries.
But with such consistent evidence that Edwards beats the R’s in their own territory, and the fact that it will be very hard for any Democratic Party interest group (except maybe it’s corporate wing, the DLC) to convince their caucus to see Edwards as anything but the best answer to our problems, and he has proven over and over again he is the best chance to beat ANY Republican.
Unfortunatley for those of us wanting some real change from our Democratic Party, beating the Republicans seems to be left up to the Republicans.
wigwam @ 126
As bad as Broder is I would pick someone like Russert (higher profile) or David Brooks. Broder could get sympathy because of his age. Whoever it is they have to be smacked down and their credibilitly completely shattered.
I support Edwards. Many reasons, but the question I have to Christy and others is this:
WHY does the press want to bury Edwards or any candidate, particularly so early?
I have my own theories, but I’d like to hear yours.
The media would have to have a fairly uniform sensibility to take a candidate down. Is it the smell of blood and shark-frenzy excuse? Is there a bias against reputable people (versus run-of-the-mill ordinary politicians)? Is the Press interested in a simple horse-race and finds it more ‘convenient’ to cover two instead of twenty? Is there a relatioship between the amount of coverage and the amount of coddling the Press receives from a candidate? Is there some editorial definition of “news” that we readers have overlooked? Is the Press laboring under the impression the electorate thinks the various candidates are “perfect” and therefore feels some obligation to find fault to the Nth degree? Does the Press think it is its duty to provide the hazing required for a politician endure in order to become the President of the Establishment Fraternity (or Sorority)?
It isn’t just Edwards who suffered this treatment. Romney is taking a beating right now. Giuliani too.
Why does the Press have this tendancy to want to minimize anybody?
Orbiting around candidates haircuts is very important.It must happen to fully spotlight,find and elect who is best qualified to be the next American President.
Surely there should be several national debates and meaningful discussions about what was paid for haircuts,what each candidates haircut says about the candidates ability to be a strong,wise or effective leader.
I want to know about where these candidates stand on haircut prices and styles. Based on what they say I will decide who to vote for. This is my core issue.I thank the gods the American MSM understands this burning issue as I do.
Yes…thank the gods… it is to Hell in a handbasket otherwise…
I am so very glad the American press shares this very important point of view with me.
Haircut costs and styles define the candidates for me. Little else matters. Lets have more serious debate about tinting,colouring and what can be done about split ends too. These are very important matters to me also.
A much more serious thought follows…
Regarding the American MSM,the Iraq Debacle and American ME policy formulas,formats and how Americans ME conduct tends to be pretty bad…
Perhaps if Israels conduct was more fully taken apart and revealed everyday,every week and every month for a year it would benefit how Americans view American presence in the ME.
The American MSM clearly steers clear of telling the story of Israeli tactics in and towards Arab Palestine. Of telling the story of how Israel has thwarted any meaningful formation of Arab Palestine as a viable sovereign state.
The current division of Arab Palestine WestBank and Gaza point clearly to some very deep Israeli based political meddling in and outright sabotage of Arab Palestinian affairs to further Israeli zealot land grabs and goals of Arab Palestine expungement.
What has happened in Iraq these past four going on five years can in several important ways be seen as a direct outcome of the distorted and dishonest American/Israeli alliance and collaboration in ME.
Israeli occupation of Arab Palestine and the current state of that occupation being reflected by the American occupation of Iraq.
The American MSM could reveal this.
But will not.
It is this blindness in American ME conduct that will doom the Americans in Iraq or in any conflict in ME.
If the Americans cannot confront Israel over Israeli conduct in ME then they will fail as they have in Iraq and will have little or no credibility anywhere in ME.
There are political reporters who write straight up articles with all the elements of Journalism 101. Not gossip. Check out Fortune, The Economist and strangely, The Wall Street Journal.
Supporters of Edwards who are fed up with MSM treatment are writing letters to the writers, editors, and advertisers. Join us at:The Hit Piece Police.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/…..=304326917
The Right wing media (which also includes what people refer to as the MSM) and the radical rightwingers want to choose our candidate just as they did in 2004. We should work hard to stop that from happening. We did not stop the attacks on Gore or try to correct the lies and we lost someone who would have made a great 9/11 President. WE MUST NOT ALLOW THAT TO HAPPEN AGAIN! Disclaimer: I like Edwards and believe he is the candidate who will be able to get the votes of the disgruntled Republicans. The media’s frivolous coverage of Edwards, I believe, is proving that point as they are working hard to “Howard Dean” (who was our second best candidate) him. I believe that all these people who want America to become a dictatorship think that any Republican can beat Hillary and that is why they will work hard to insure that Hillary is the Democratic candidate. If Hillary is the Democratic candidate really and truly chosen by Democrats then I will be happy to support her. Right now, I think Edwards is a great candidate because of his work on poverty and because his wife is a terrific, intelligent, caring person. I believe he will work to get the US of A’s reputation as a “good guy” back.
It’s happening again.
http://www.thenation.com/doc/20040308/greider
The Nation March 8, 2004 issue)
Dean’s Rough Ride By WILLIAM GREIDER
I live in Chapel Hill, and folks around here have admired and loved Elizabeth for a long time, so I liked the ad. She made Edwards look Presidential. What an incredible First Lady she could be.
“Chris Bowers misses the point — you don’t stop the Beltway Heathers by reinforcing their narratives; you shut them up by putting the fear of God (and unemployment) in them.”
I thought Bowers was being sarcastic!
“The way to end this pathetic excuse for journalism is with flamethrowers and righteous indignation. Scorch the editors, publishers, and reporters — boycott the advertisers who sponsor Rush, Hannity, and O’Lielly.
Until they are given the full “Conservative Bias in the Media” treatment, they will never learn — or stop their partisan attacks on all Democrats.
Until Marc Ambinder and his ilk are demoted to the dogcatcher beat in Podunk Alabama, they will keep on doing what they do — serve their Right Wing Masters with hit pieces on Democrats, while chowing down at the bottomless crock pot of cocktail weenies.”
Amen, brother!(or sister)
mui @ 34
Is this a Marie Antionette moment? The Labor Secretary concerned that “those people” actually SWEAT while doing their physical labor?
Now if she were telling Businesses to provide adequate toilets, toilet breaks, showers, funding for grooming and make-overs, time and places for exercise (obesity produces many of those hygeine issues), proper health/dental insurance, etc. then she’d have a point.
But I suspect she isn’t. It’s the workers fault.