A classic Barbara Streisand performance of “The Way We Were.” Like buttah. I tried to find the Bill Murray lounge singing parody from a classic SNL, but no luck…
The AP is taking Bush Administration dictation again, as Scarecrow detailed above. This is the same Eric Edelman who, as Cheney’s national security advisor, was told in no uncertain terms that the Niger uranium claims were bunk. The same Edelman whose outright lies to the Republican-controlled Senate Armed Services Committee had John Warners knickers in a twist. The same Eric Edelman who functioned as a part of Dick Cheney’s shadow national security staff for years. The same Eric Edelman who was speaking in irrelevant generalities all the way back in 2005 — and is doing so still — because his role is providing political cover, and not honest, candid policy assessment. (Warning: this transcript is hazardous to your blood pressure.)
I’m with Oliver on this one: perverting the defense department into an arm of the Republican Party is appalling enough. That we still don’t know whether any contingency planning has been done with regard to either a planned or precipitous retreat is even worse. My nightmares about Steve Gilliard’s fighting retreat scenario continue. Why, you may ask? Because of reports like this:
The 20 ground combat brigades deployed in Iraq would fill 10,000 flatbed trucks and take a year to move, logistics experts said. A full withdrawal, shipping home some 200,000 Americans and thousands of tons of equipment, dismantling dozens of American bases and disposing of tons of accumulated toxic waste, would take 20 months or longer, they estimate.
Yet the Bush administration, long intent on avoiding what it once called a “cut and run” retreat from Iraq, has done little to lay the groundwork for withdrawal, officials here said.
“We don’t have the plan in detail yet. We’re seriously engaged in trying to figure this out,” said Marine Brig. Gen. Gray Payne, director of the U.S. Central Command’s logistics operations center.
Even with the benefit of a detailed plan, Payne said, “this is going to be an enormous challenge.”…
A hastier departure could find military convoys stalled on roads cratered by roadside bombs, interrupted by blown bridges and clogged with fleeing refugees….
On Friday, two of the Senate’s most respected Republican authorities on international and military affairs, Richard Lugar of Indiana and John Warner of Virginia, introduced a measure to compel the Bush administration to “immediately initiate planning” for the next steps in Iraq, “including a drawdown or redeployment of troops.”…
A shortage of aircraft means the Defense Department would have to charter transports to move troops out of the region. Under current agreements, the Pentagon pays companies such as FedEx and UPS $627.80 for each soldier it flies home — for example, from Baghdad to Baltimore. For cargo, the Pentagon pays roughly $1.3 million for each cargo-loaded 747 aircraft flight….
Others doubt that all would go smoothly. A new report by the Government Accountability Office, the analysis agency of Congress, found severe problems in the U.S. Central Command logistics system, which would handle the withdrawal. The GAO found fragmented lines of authority, a shortage of skilled logisticians, and computer systems that can’t connect with each other.
One result, the GAO found this spring, is that one third of all the steel shipping containers in Iraq and Afghanistan — 54,390 containers — are lost. (emphasis mine)
In the Bush Administration, no matter how many times you get caught lying or over how many failures you preside over, there is no internal accountability. There is no other explanation for Edelman’s promotion to his spot at DoD beyond his unswerving loyalty to Dick Cheney and George Bush’s priorities, whatever their lack of relationship to realities on the ground and the facts, whatever the cost to our nation’s troops in the field. Once again, the Bush Administration calls out the political deflection squad when they get caught not doing their job. With folks like Eric Edelman still running the show, what could possibly go wrong?
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Hellooooo…
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Christy!
tres…
EPU’d from last thread but relevant to this one:
Biodun @ 130
4.2
As I said in the last thread, the folks who are drawing up withdrawal plans are the same ones who were responsible for the post-war plans.
No conspiracy here.
If you missed this article by Leopold about the history of Judge Bates
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/071907R.shtml
Another hour of the Diane Rehm News round up. Lots of people listen to her show. Send in questions, comments, info you want to get out to listeners.
Drshow@wamu.org
1-800-433-8850
Another EPU’d from last thread but relevant to this one:
Biodun @ 112
punaise @ 6
No trace on the peninsula punaise…
Epu’d, reposting
LA Times headline this morning:
My reaction:
No. Absolutely not.
They’ve had four f*cking years.
Time to impeach!
This is all lies. I don’t know who to believe anymore. I truly believe that US forces could be out of Iraq in a few days to a week.
But it’s stupid. I mean, we’re not going to pull ALL of our troops out. There’s no reason some of them can’t stay to protect the borders and clean up the mess left behind. It’s just all bullshit.
Why don’t they just pull out of Baghdad and see what happens? Let them start policing their own streets there. There’s just no realistic discussion about Iraq because Bush just keeps lying.
and every single one of these morons that were COMPLETELY wrong on EVERYTHING are STILL deferred to as some kind of “experts”
crystol is on the friggin TEE vee every friggin week, he makes bizzare, BRAZEN claims CLEARLY false, is proven wrong AGAIN AND AGAIN, and they continue to question him for “expert” advice
I figured out an analogy and once told everyone will agree:
this is like an episode of the “twilight zone”
In addition to edelman being a complete tool, it is also ridiculous that he lists every conflict in recent history EXCEPT Bush War I wherein the truth for Arabs is that the US left before keeping promises to their “allies”…
For me, this is no longer the Iraq War or occupation of Iraq, but Bush’s Bloody Folly.
punaise @ 6
I was thinking of all my friends in the Bay Area when I saw/heard that this morning.
Punaise
Rude awakening, I take it?
(I’ve seen the maps, thanks. I’m watching the locked section between Cajon Pass and Parkfield loosening up, and estimating how much I’m going to need in water and MREs.)
They would be smarter if they did a slow sneak out of Iraq – a platoon or two at a time from random sites….
This is Bushco’s little going away present for the next president. Congress should not recess until this is addressed in a responsible way. Even if that means going 24/7. Unless it is the next president, likely a Democrat, will likely be a one-termer and any Democratic control of Congress will be short lived. (Where are you today Sen. Kerry?)
I know these may be silly questions, but why did we have to deploy so many of our national guard to fight this war?
Don’t we have an active duty army?
Does anyone know how many active duty ‘v’ national guards we have on the ground in Iraq and how many are still stationed on our bases though-out the world..Obviously, I know we can’t be too specific on # (walls have ears and all :), but I am curious about the %
Procuratio frutex delenda est.
Edelman, recess appointment. Has the clock run out on him? It’s two years come August 9th. Doesn’t he need Senate confirmation soon, or like Bradbury is he another “illegal” worker?
Give us hope, Christy!
OT, maybe. on Clinton’s response. The AP reported it at 8:35 a.m. the NYT blog on Edelman’s attack has yet to notice her response.
Can one impeach the newspaper of record for incompetence?
This is the question that I sent in. I have had tons of questions asked on the Rehm show the last six years. Anyone willing to send such a question in?
This week on C-Spans Washington Journal Senator Kerry brought up a Middle East Regional Peace Conference. Zbigniew Brezinski brought up this idea on the Diane Rehm show over two years ago and I believe this is also a recommendation of the Iraq Study Group.
What does the Bush administration have against such a conference?
Why are we not hearing more people discuss this idea?
jackie @ 19
I can’t remember any particular sources for the numbers, but I think the ballpark is that about 50% of the Nat’l Guard is deployed in Iraq and Afghanistan. Does that sound right to Fire Pupsters?
November, it’s the new September!
Christy they are discussing the Edelman/Clinton issue right now. I bet they would take a question from you.
drshow@wamu.org
1800-433-8850
BlueStateRedHead @ 21
Actually Christy, this is my question too. Especially when I find this:
WTF is going on? Why is he still there?
kathleen at 25 — Am on a conference call at the moment…
Kathleen @ 23
Hey, Tony Blair’s in charge of Middle East peace. Everything will be solved momentarily.
BlueStateRedHead @ 21
Here it is
As I recall, Edelman also was linked to the Aspen Institute-Rome-yellow cake mess. In short like Judith Miller, Scooter Miller, Joe Lieberman, Arlen Spector, William Kristol, Richard Perle, Eliot Abrams, Josh Bolten, etc. he is one of the Neo-Con group policy militia who seeks to foment Middle East unrest for their own ends.
Suggesting tag team blogging questions
Just sent this question to the Rehm show. Anyone else want to pile on. If they get it numerous times they will ask the question.
Is this the same Eric Edelman who, as Cheney’s national security advisor, was told in no uncertain terms that the Niger uranium claims were bunk?
drshow@wamu.org
Bush’s young war supporter video.
Watch the whole video.
Why doesn’t Gates fire his arse for such a
poor response?
OT but over at WaPo 48 pages of negative comments about Bush’s claim that he has Executive Priveledge over everything.
OT ~ Just a thought:
The CNN-YouTube Democratic Debate ~ July 23rd / Submit your question HERE.
Christy Hardin Smith @ 27
Hell, I can barely walk and chew gum at the same time.
Christy is a superhero when it comes to multitasking.
Tidbit about Edelman:
GeorgeSimian @ 34
seems like we can at least quadruple that number
*goes to contribute*
Christy, you rock.
P J Evans @ 16
felt a lot stronger than 4.2 here in Berkeley. some stuff fell off shelves, one broken window pane. nothing major. a friend in Oakland lost gas service (earthquake shut-off valve triggered).
Junya’s Contingency Plans:
As he, Kindasleeza, and Rover are busy under the desk in the Oval Office playing with his Matchbox Hummers, Junya ponder’s the question of Iraq contingency planning:
“Ah can’t understand all the fuss Turdblossom. We jest “Beam ‘em up” like Cap’n Kirk does. Didn’t ya’ll tell me ahm responsible for this Enterprise? If ah say “Beam ‘em up”, then mah orders have to be obeyed.
Now, don’t ya be shakin’ your head at me Condi honey, ’cause I’m the Commander-In-Chief. Dickee told me so, and ahm goin’ to get mah way ’cause those Dimmicrats ain’t got the cojones to stop me.
Get me another brewski, will ya Turdblossom, and another Shirley Temple for Condi ’cause she’s driving. Vrooooom, vroooom.
Good Morning, Christy.
I wouldn’t put it past Darth Cheney to deliberately botch the withdrawal and put our troops in danger, just to stick it to the Dems for forcing his hand. Then, of course, he and The Chimp would be all over the news explaining the tragedy of those troops hurt or killed due to the “Democrats’ ‘precipitous’ withdrawal”. I would love to be proven wrong on this.
CHS “With folks like Eric Edelman still running the show, what could possibly go wrong?”
More deaths more destruction. The Clean Break getting even more bloody.
Edelman is the Plan B.
Bustednuckles @ 36
Understand! Just a suggestion.
Thanks for all you do.
Biodun @ 37
From the linked piece…
Got to be kidding…
Tross @ 42
It’s one of the many reasons they need to be impeached. They HAVE to be discredited. They have to be ground so far into the dirt that rehab is not possible.
mc @ 24
That’s along the lines of Blackwater being the new Pinkerton.
Bingo got the Kerry question on
do-si-do @ 44
He’s part of the “stabbed in the back” plan.
jackie@19: IIRC, when the shift was made to all-volunteer (plus private contractors, but leave that aside), they decided that in any major ongoing operations, something like 40% of total forces would be either National Guard or Reserve. Active-duty military just wasn’t big enough to sustain a serious deployment, given the impossibility of a draft. That’s actually how our battle plans have been written. Again IIRC, Gulf War I had a similarly high proportion of Guard/Reserve.
I’d suspect that Guard/Reserve were mostly to be assigned garrison and support duties, but that would be in a very conventional kind of situation. Iraq isn’t very conventional. I know reservists who were medevac door gunners, which is pretty high-intensity. But I think that if you go back to the initial invasion, the supply convoys were almost all Guard/Reserve.
All elements of the ground forces are way overstretched– military buffs and governors all have good reason to be worried. The Air Force, though, seems to be well out of it.
Here’s another tidbit about Edeleman:
A pullout from Iraq would only take 6 to 9 months. The kicker here is a pullout to where. If it is all the equipment all the way to the US, Europe or wherever, yes, it would take longer but a removal to staging areas in Kuwait could be done much faster.
In many ways, the timing of withdrawal is not a logistical but a political question. The adult way is to coordinate with Iraqi authorities turnovers of successive areas. They may or may not be able to fill the security void caused by our withdrawal but it gives them the opportunity to do so. It takes longer but is a fairer and more orderly process, at least on our side.
Can he tell us what happened to the War Czar and what he’s up to?
Biodun @ 9
If he was a recess appointment why is he still there after the new Congress was sworn in?
Or is he serving in another title? (Bet they raised the salary if that’s the case).
Kathleen @ 31
Ask Chrisy’s question on air. Someone asked how one can do more. Getting questions info on these national shows can be very effective. drshow@wamu.org
o.k. I am obsessive compulsive
Edelman also clearly doesn’t know about boundaries:
Janda @ 47
I couldn’t agree more. Let’s hope our Dem leaders will see it this way.
“Edelman received his bachelor’s degree from Cornell University in 1972 and a doctorate in diplomatic history from Yale University in 1981.”
Someone needs to take a hard look at the quality of education at Yale.
Is anyone really surprised that the Bush regime has transformed the Penatagon into an instrument of the Republican Party? Do you think that they were content with merely politicizing the DOJ? They are using the same methods employed by the NSDAP in Germany in subverting the legitimacy of elected government. Their intent is to blur the lines of all governmental departments and agencies so that eventually state and party are seen as one and the same. The government becomes nothing more than an instrument of serving party interests. This is beyond frightening. I have a friend who is a nuero researcher at a major university and she said colleagues of hers at the CDC were being questioned by Republican political appointees concerning their thoughts on GWB. This was happening over 4 years ago. These scientists were deeply troubled by these “interegations”. “Those who do not learn from history are condemned to repeat it.”
A’57 @ 58
No kidding…it’s sole purpose really is to provide people access to people in power. The education isn’t any better than most big state schools.
OT and shameless self promotion. Bush’s gift to his opposition.
A’57 @ 59
Someone needs to talk to Sibel Edmonds and find out how connected this guy is to the Turkish support groups she said were spying within the US.
Edelman might not be able to stand up to too much scrutiny.
Bluetoe @ 61
Kinda, uh, like Saddam’s government? ‘eh?
And this is also interesting about Edelman (he always seems right in the thick–as it were–of things):
Wow on the Rehm show they are talking honestly about the I/P issue. Challenging Israel…checkpoints, the wall, the occupation, the incursions, the bulldozing, the intimidations at checkpoints
BobbyG @ 64
So instead of de-Baathification what we need is de-Bushification.
Biodun @ 52
Does this bear some relation to the Turkish bribes to Hastert?
Biodun @ 65
Biodun – thanks for the tip.
Recess appointments (wikipedia): A recess appointment occurs when the President of the United States fills a vacant Federal position during a recess of the United States Senate. The commission or appointment must be approved by the Senate by the end of the next session, or the position becomes vacant again.” (my bold)
Perhaps this is why Hillary says to Gates:
“I would appreciate the courtesy of a prompt response directly from you.”
Janda @ 61
Let us not forget that W wnet to Yale. And, itwas the source formany OSS & CIA agents up until fairly recently.
perris @ 38
How do we stage an Impeachment March from the White House to the Capitol?
Bluetoe @ 60
China under Mao and Russia under Stalin come to mind when thinking of the merging of party and government.
Senator Clinton rocking the polls
http://rawstory.com/news/afp/6…..92007.html
Hugh @ 68
The Bu’ush Party.
BTW- the latest Bu’ush Party declaration (from WaPo):
“MY government” – Jorge W. Bu’ush
And were not talking about pig ranches here, either.
brendan @ 71
Ramsey Clark was the first one that I heard pushing Impeachment just after the illegal invaion of Iraq.
Impeachment march in Sept
http://www.impeachbush.org/site/PageServer
Fern @ 72
ALL totallitarian regimes use similar methods in consolidating power and making the state an instrument of party ideology. That holds true whether they be communist or fascist. Their is a direct lineage from Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, Franco, Mussolini, Hitler to GWB and the Republican Party.
Cindy walking for Humanity
Her last post.
http://www.impeachbush.org/sit….._ctrl=1201
Hugh @ 53
wayne white says 12-15 months for a withdrawal that includes the expensive equipment and about 100,000 iraqis who would be killed because of their work with americans.
not saying he’s right… but he’s actually studied what it would take (and knows iraq very well).. if it really could take half that time, i’d like more info before i make that assumption.
i’m not anxious to push for a time schedule that means tens of thousands of iraqis are killed when it could be avoided. we already have so much blood on our hands… please, let’s not add to it.
Biodun @ 65
I think this shop was at State not Defense and began back in 1981 when Reagan came into office. I don’t know when or if Edelman joined the group but it was an incubator for neocons. Dennis Ross, Francis Fukuyama, and Alan Keyes were also part of it.
We have no Department of Defense. We do have a Department of Aggression, however.
Kathleen,
I tried to get an answer to the questions you posed at the tail end of yesterday’s WINO thread – last night at late late night (beginning at #203). I didn’t, and do feel you are owed an apology for the rudeness of the challenge that was thrown at you yesterday. Anyway, I tried…
It’s been the proverbial frog in boiling water for six years, but today’s Post article on the “broad new assertion of ‘executive privilege’” departs from the quiet accumulation of dictatorial powers: it is nothing less than an outright declaration of dictatorship. Call your representatives daily about an impeachment investigation and think of a way to get some of the tens of millions of people who demand impeachment to voice that demand in unison, in public.
It’s time to hit the streets.
If the Goopers manage to prevent any meaningful action against the Bush regime, there is still a point of hope.
Under the precedents set by the GOP, the executive cannot be constrained by congress or the courts in the prosecution of the war on terror.
The GOP under Bush has increased terrorism exponentially.
So after due consideration,(about 30 seconds worth) the incoming Dem president declares the Republican party a terrorist organization.
A little OT. I hear the pitter patter of little feet – chickens with their heads cut off. Yesterday, Helen was nice enough to link to Senator Leahy’s letter to Gonzo in advance of next Tuesday’s hearing: Leahy Warns Gonzo In Advance. 10 to 1 he doesn’t even show up.
selise @ 79
It’s necessary to remove Cheney from power and quarantine Bush in order to stage this withdrawal. Once they’re gone, and their allies in the armed forces with them, the military can be trusted to manage this appropriately. Gates is already in place.
I feel ill this morning. This is what I have been afraid of ever since the Supreme Court installed an un-elected president in 2000.
I have been very ambivalent about Hillary’s candidacy, though I have always maintained a commitment to see that she is elected president if she wins the party nomination. But this action by the Pentagon, and her gutsy response, is forcing me to re-think my hesitancy.
I would hope that if she were to become President, that she would remember this experience–and do all in her power to see that sunlight is shed on these dark years. It may well be that she is the perfect person to take on the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy which has been working for years to turn our Democracy into a fascist state. Flawed though she may be in many other respects…
eCAHNomics @ 70
Believe me I did not forget. I know some of these bozos.
Bluetoe @ 84
I’ll keep saying this, but there has to be some visible popular accompaniment to the actions of Congress. We need to have a March from the White House to the Capitol. It would be unprecedented (as opposed to an anti-war rally) and galvanizing.
brendan @ 84
The Goopers actually wanna see a President Hillary with this kind of authority? LOL!
Or, (adjusting tinfoil fedora here), maybe there’s just not gonna be a 2008 presidential election.
Tiredfed@69 re recess appointment.
thanks for the wiki quote. That’s the principle, now Helen@21 and I know. but does it apply here?
Do you know if he has ‘outstayed his welcome’?
BobbyG @ 91
Of course there will be elections. It’s called “plebiscitary dictatorship”.
brendan @ 87
i’m more than ok with going this route… but i’d also like to continue to push for congress to end funding for the occupation…
Hugh @ 80:
Edelman was part of many “shops” in several administrations:
Bluetoe at #84:
I mean “Impeachment March”.
brendan @ 90
I’ll be there when it happens. Repeatedly, if need be.
Hugh @ 80
I’m going to suggest this was a spin-off of Iran-Contra. They are succeeding now after cutting their teeth on Iran-Contra; they figured out how to fund illicit and black ops, how to run them without Congressional oversight via the OVP, and how to effectively neutralize any white hats in the CIA (like Valerie Plame).
Further, this entire outfit has been co-opted by at least one if not two other groups — the Franklin prosecution indicating the extent to which the outfit AND this country have been compromised. (Actually, it’s worse if we assume that any and all email and voice communications over RNC-issued Blackberry devices and laptops were actively monitored and used by the same entities, by conscious choice on the part of the Blackberry users. Every RNC-Blackberry user should be getting questioned and probably charged with SF-312 violations right now…)
Bush On Iraq Amputee: “Good Man, We’re Gonna Get Him Some New Legs...”
Hey, he’s “good folks”.
At this point, GWB’s prime concern is his “legacy” which is why he wants whoever succeeds him as president to fail, to preside over an even more horrific mess so he looks ok in contrast. Likewise, bloody chaos throughout the middle east is just about right for necons like Bill Kristol, as it will justify an indefinite US military presence in the region. These people have there inner logic and are true to it. It just happens to be destructively insane.
TiredFed @ 86
I’m tellin’ ya – we should start a pool. I am the biggest always follow the rules person, and I swear if I were in his position I might consider not showing. The answers are gonna be mortifying.
There is just not enough popcorn in the world. I have already cleared my work calendar and told my staff I will be very busy that day so my door will be closed. Please do not disturb.
selise @ 94
I’m just saying the timelines would be moot. Or, to look at it another way, timelines will be declared “precipitate” no matter what, as long as Bush’s people are running things. If we don’t manage impeachment, we’ll just have to steel ourselves in advance for the accusations of “stabbing them in the back” by removing them from Iraq — it’s better, after all, than genuinely stabbing them in the back by leaving them there.
This is OT, but it goes to Iran worries, and why I’m less fearful of an attack. It’s a three-part series from last fall on Hezbollah’s defeat of the Israelis last summer: http://www.atimes.com/atimes/others/hezbollah.html
Also OT, I propose renaming Chertoff’s department to “Heimatsicherheit”.
perris @ 38
I’m in there somewhere around page 9 or 10, meself.
Rayne @ 98
Me – I want to know how the increasing cultivation of poppies in Afghanistan figures in all this – wasn’t there a drug component to Iran-Contra? Or am I misremembering?
The f*cking broken record:
Helpless Dancer @ 85
HA! That would be rather appropriate.
BobbyG @ 99
Can he really be that thoughtless? I mean really.
I wonder if the FBI profilers did a workup on Bush; if not, they should…
Rayne @ 98
One of Abramoff’s little side gigs, by the way, was getting telcom contracts for Israeli companies…in the Capitol.
brendan @ 93
Wasn’t Saddam re-elected with 97%?
Pretty soon Abu Gonzales has to be impeached. Once he starts squashing contempt referrals, is there any other choice?
The question then is: Will Bush give him a recess appointment after he’s been convicted?
Elliott @ 107
Watch the video clip.
Rayne @ 98:
You’re dead on the money on all your points.
brendan @ 102
thank you, i’m always appreciative of reasons to decrease my iran worries (which, as you know, are high) *g*
selise @ 79
I can only repeat. A preliminary withdrawal to Kuwaiti staging areas can be handled within the timeframe I mentioned. It is in some ways the reverse of the buildup phase to the 2003 war which took place in late 2002 and early 2003. All the maintenance checks, cleaning and pest removal, crating, and shipping, etc. would take up to a year to complete but it would be done from the relative safety of Kuwait.
As for Iraqi casualties, a lot of those are going to happen whenever we leave whether that’s now or in a year.
It would be good to have contingency plans for Iraqi civilians identified with the American occupation but the number that would be at significant risk because of their connection to us (as opposed to the Iraqi government) would be in the thousands not 100,000.
Woodhall Hollow @ 88
Vast Right Wing Conspiracy: prescient
A’57 @ 59
With a Kagan on the faculty, I’m sure that it’s sterling.
I got this from Tracy’s blog…Is she talking about a real e-mail? and does it help tie-up even more loose ends re; politicalization of Federal depts etc..
Posted At : July 20, 2007 5:07 AM
BORROWED OPINIONS
Federal Hustings Administration
The politicizing of federal workplaces for partisan gain is a crime, but don’t tell that to the Bush administration appointees busy on their rounds as in-house promoters of Republican candidates.
“Our hard work is noticed,” e-mailed a pleased official of the nation’s anti-drug abuse agency after helping the White House bolster vulnerable G.O.P. members of Congress with district visits and federal grants from anti-drug officials in the months before the 2006 elections. The e-mailer apologized that leaders from the supposedly politics-free agency were dispatched to “god awful places” on the taxpayers’ tab, but took comfort in the word that, yes, Karl Rove, President Bush’s political guru, was pleased with the agency’s campaign to help more than a dozen shaky candidates.
http://tracyphillips.instantsp…..S#comments
WTF?!?!?
Hillary Clinton’s Tentative Dip Into New Neckline Territory
BobbyG @ 112
I keep thinking he can’t get worse, but I keep being wrong about that.
Biodun @ 105
BlueStateRedHead @ 92
well, he better not be getting paid! his recess appointment expired at the beginning of the 110th Congress (Jan. 4, 2007). granted, he could be appointed under Schedule C, but he shouldn’t be sitting in a job that requires Senate confirmation again. unless he’s doing it for free.
Downpuppy @ 110
The beauty of being convicted in an impeachment trial is that you may never serve in gov’t again.
Rayne @ 98:
This machinic nexus, as it were, is where politics, war, and technology intersect, a vast monstrous machine that mixes arms, drugs, backroom political deals, fraud, bribery, mayhem, and chicanery.
JF @ 119
Good lord, talking about Hillary’s tits.
Give me a break.
Bustednuckles @ 124
Could be worse. Could be Hastert’s.
jackie @ 117
Yes it is a real email. Henry’s got the docs here including the email. While it looks like Sara is the target I don’t think so. These are Hatch Act violations and the maximum penalty is removal from office. Sara’s gone already. They are gunning for KKKarl. Probably want to use these “minor” infractions as cause to start demanding real information.
There goes breakfast….
Bustednuckles @ 125
The next question will be “briefs or thongs”. Just hate this obsession with a female candidate’s personal stuff.
Biodun @ 105
When I read stories like these, it always makes me want to ask where were the equipment upgrades and pay raises and everything else were when the Republicans controlled the Congress.
Hugh @ 130
Long answer? Halliburton bank accounts.
JF @ 118
Look at the writer: It’s Robin Givhan. What else can you expect?
Breaking news:
Cheney taking over gov’t tomorrow due to GWB going under anesthesia?
A “P.S.” in Senator Kerry’s e-mail:
“P.S. – You and I know damn well what happens at moments like this: the Administration attacks their opponents ruthlessly. They smear, they lie. Yesterday they went after Sen. Clinton. I stepped up to defend her. Tomorrow who knows which Democrat they’ll attack. Here’s what I’m asking you: I don’t care if you have a horse in 2008, or who you’re supporting. Anytime you see a Democrat get attacked, please step up and defend them.”
sy @ previous thread’s 143, this is the Hillary Clinton I’ll be voting for.
Did anyone see *itch McConnell last night in the Senate chamber have some of former President Clinton’s pardons read while debate was going on regarding the proposed Education legislation? Senator Kennedy went ballistic after the dirty deed was done; he was wonderful. McConnell’s plastic smirk may have twitched a little.
JF at #109:
I’m actually thinking of countries where there’s genuine opposition, and mostly genuine “accountability moments”, but the ruling party completely controls the apparatus of the state and the press.
Biodun @ 131
Stuff like this makes me want to vote for her, who I otherwise loathe.
allan_in_upstate @ 116
It always amazes me how people who can’t find their *ss with two hands get teaching positions at major universities.
JF @ 119
This is Robin Givhan of the Post Style section. She writes these things about everyone.
Biodun @ 105
That’s … just … ducky.
He’s unwilling to give them pay increases, he’s determined to keep them in Iraq (or send them back, time after time), his party members in congress are in lockstep with him, refusing to pass the necessary bills, and he’s accusing the Democrats of delaying things?
Time to impeach!
Here is an Edelman joke. He is a very funny guy.
This is also funny, “There is plenty of electricity in Iraq.”
W to relinquish presidential power to Cheney tomorrow while undergoing colonoscopy…yikes.
Milan River @ 132
It’s happened before. Seems like Bush had a colonoscopy last year or the year before. But hasn’t Cheney already taken over the government?
Wonder if this is related to W getting sick a couple of weeks ago..
LS @ 140
Want a scary thought? Cheney in charge of the football.
LS @ 140
There are so many joke lines here, I don’t know where to begin.
In defence of the article, it’s in the fashion section. Policy discussion was not likely to occur.
LS @ 140
Lets see, W goes under, Deadeyes pacemaker quits……
PELOSI 07!!!!
LS @ 140
Well, finally, W’s going to have done to him what he’s been doing to the country for the last 61/2 years.
(Sorry, I know, it’s a cheap joke.)
NinjaGoat @ 145
In defence of the article, it’s in the Washington Post. Policy discussion was not likely to occur
JF @ 125
And I will bet dollars to donuts that when Fred’s wife has a new, updated “more appropriate” set installed sometime this summer, there will be nary a mention in the WaPo.
Helpless Dancer @ 143
Yea.. Just like he was on the morning of 9/11….
Very scary indeed….
JF @ 148
Point noted.
Rayne:
Here is a link to that bit about Abramoff getting an Israeli company telcom contracts in the Capitol complex:
http://sanjose.bizjournals.com…..bits1.html
Yes, you guys are right- Same old same old.
Mojo @ 152
Cheney has been in charge since the day he decided to be VP. Bush is no more the president than I am.
newtonusr @ 144
I think there looking for Plan B.
Helpless Dancer @ 143
calling audibles at the line of skirmish:
“3, 47. 3, 47. hut – hut – NUKE!”
Well, at least this minor setback for BushCo:
A’57 @ 155
is that the morning-after enema?
The card catalogue entry in the Yale Library for Edelman’s Ph.D. thesis:
I hear he’s publishing an updated version under the title:
Incremental Involvement: Iraq and United States Foreign Policy, 2003-2048
Helpless Dancer @ 143
*shiver*
punaise at #156:
It’s “scrimmage”.
A’57 @ 155
The Presidents physician, Dr. Cheney, is quoted as saying that the procedure will be routine.
“Of course, if there should be a *problem*, there are contingencies.”
guns or buttah, you say?
Don’t rain on his parade.
Oops! Too late.
JF @ 141
This was the exact moment Darth/Rummy took over…LINK
W will have the procedure at Camp David and Cheney will be at his home by the Maryland shore.
I suspect Hillary (and her people) knew, or suspected, the WaPo piece would come out. I also suspect that they are quite pleased with it, as well, after paragraphs like this:
“With Clinton, there was the sense that you were catching a surreptitious glimpse at something private. You were intruding — being a voyeur. Showing cleavage is a request to be engaged in a particular way. It doesn’t necessarily mean that a woman is asking to be objectified, but it does suggest a certain confidence and physical ease. It means that a woman is content being perceived as a sexual person in addition to being seen as someone who is intelligent, authoritative, witty and whatever else might define her personality. It also means that she feels that all those other characteristics are so apparent and undeniable, that they will not be overshadowed.”
Methinks the Post has just tipped its endorsement hat.
A’57 @ 155
Or Bush’s head.
Or maybe they have decided to bypass Bush and ask his gut directly what they should do
Or Condi couldn’t find her shoehorn
Hugh @ 114
well, i’m left with contradictory assertions. wish i had more info with which to evaluate alternative withdrawal plans for myself.
with regard to iraqi civilians, white explains that the evacuation can’t be strictly limited people identified with the occupation – it must include their immediate families (he says that the iraqis will expect it to include extended families, but that’s probably not possible – even if we are morally responsible). immediate families must be included for two reasons – 1) they will be targeted for revenge killing and 2) the iraqis who worked for/with the occupation were mostly primary wage earners for their families. are we going to expect them to leave behind their wives and children to fend for themselves?
white claimed 100,000 was a conservative number. i’m not in a position to know how many iraqis have worked for/with the occupation… but white is. and i don’t know of any alternative estimates to consider.
perhaps i am just getting too caught up in the details…
brendan @ 161
in football, yes.
in battle, no – although “skirmish” would be a bit of an understatement if Dick lets it rip.
Why would the idea of Cheney being officially in charge for one day disturb me any more than him pulling strings every day behind the scenes?
Same old same old.
brendan @ 161
Brendan her name is Punaise.
mc @ 147
Is it wrong to hope that he is one of the people where the anastethia doesn’t work, and he is in pain but unable to communicate. That might feel a little bit like being at gitmo.
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July 20th, 2007 at 8:39 am
omeone needs to talk to Sibel Edmonds and find out how connected this guy is to the Turkish support groups she said were spying within the US.
Edelman might not be able to stand up to too much scrutiny.
Siberl Edmonds is all over this guy. He’s dirty as hell. She ties Denny Hastert into it also. (i.e. Turkish fuckery)
Fern @ 104
You can read up here on the issue of drug trafficking as funding for illicit ops during Iran Contra…and you’ll note that John Kerry investigated part of this.
No surprise at all that they went after John Kerry as they did during his campaign; you see, if he’d become president, he might have recognized all the threads for what they were. It was more surprising that Kerry didn’t see the attack coming.
I’m sure it’s no coincidence that rather than fight an effective battle in Afghanistan against al Qaeda and the Taliban, the current administration found a way for us to be bogged down elsewhere while the farming of poppies could rebound. No surprise, either, that the UN continues to fight poppy production, while our mission to the UN continues to both undermine it and alienate us from it — because that might cut into funding from poppies, hmm?
LOL!
Punaise is a guy.
And there’s metaphorics in this, I suppose:
Sunshine!
Helpless Dancer @ 85
America has far more to fear anti-democratic authoritarians in the Republican Party than any foreign terrorists. The nation will have to be purged of these germinating fascists.
I doubt this is a routine colonoscopy.
LS @ 178
I hope they use a jackhammer.
LS @ 178
they removed Powell a long time ago
Biodun @ 9
GRRRRR! This is so maddening! Is there truth to my recollection that Harry Reid has a technique for keeping the Senate technically in session, so that Bush cannot have recess appointments? Something like meeting once every three days for a quorum call? Can someone refresh my recollection?
LS @ 178
Why do you say that?
Bustednuckles @ 173
My bad.
LS @ 178
In other words, what in the hell has climbed up Bush’s ass
A’57 @ 183
no problema!
Milan River @ 170
Why would the idea of Cheney being officially in charge for one day disturb me any more than him pulling strings every day behind the scenes?
Same old same old.
NOT same old same old. I wonder as to the extent, if any, which Cheney could effectively operate if thrust out into the light of day, such as comes with being president.
LS @ 178
They’re still looking for the pretzel.
If you’ve been looking at GWB’s face recently he looks terrible.
Like he congested with anger and pent up rage. Where does it all
go? He’ not down at the ranch bushwacking weeds. There could be
trouble down there in the tunnel. Obviously there’s no light
at the end. Just more congestion of an Imperial A_ _ out of control.
When will Congress get its act together and begin the
Impeachment process? It is may be the only way to save the USA
from Dictatorship.
eCAHNomics @ 182
I just have a “gut” feeling…he took ill recently and I think they said it was stomach related. This just seemed to come out of nowhere, but what do I know…just guessing.
LS @ 178
SSRIs can cause serious havoc in the gut.
And hasn’t our country been Better Than Well™ for the last 6.5 years?
Janda @ 172
Oh yes, so, so wrong. So, so very wrong. It might even feel to Bush like phantom limbs after his legs had been blown off.
LS @ 189
Somehow W’s being sick passed me by. Link? It might have happened while I was visiting my sick brother when I didn’t follow the news much.
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GRRRRR! This is so maddening! Is there truth to my recollection that Harry Reid has a technique for keeping the Senate technically in session, so that Bush cannot have recess appointments? Something like meeting once every three days for a quorum call? Can someone refresh my recollection?
There is talk of Reid doing so. There isn’t a lot of law with regard to recess appointments, but Bush himself, IIRC, has done them during periods of as little as five (or maybe three, can’t remember precisely) day “recesses”. I don’t know that there’s ever been a recess appointment thrown out by reason of the recess being too short.
In other words, reid needs to keep it open Every. Single. Day.
eCAHNomics @ 192
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/new…..ush108.xml
LS @ 189
Think Catherine de Medici or Lucrezia Borgia.
mc @ 147
Not so much a cheap joke, but give credit where credit is due. Woody Allen, in Annie Hall (re: Nixon. His character was trying to get laid.)
Ah, under under (in the original):
Ah, mountaintop retreat. No comment necessary. Just use your imagination.
Another report about his “stomach” illness:
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics…..id=3257294
Max Blumenthal takes a run at the College Republican Convention. This is worth a watch.
VIDEO
jayt @ 194
What is the opinion of the constitutional scholars here on this question: Could congress pass a law that says no recess appointments for people who were rejected or blocked or submitted to the Senate, a la Josh Bolton, e.g.?
Please tone down the violent imagery. Not to be tolerated.
brendan @ 196
He had a so-called “stomach ailment” the day after he had been photographed consuming so-called “near beer” at the G8, if memory serves…was the allegation of alcohol consumption pared with the “illness” the next day innoculation against a developing health problem?
Jeebus, I can’t buy enough tinfoil these days. It used to be that folks mocked my aluminum headgear, but it’s become so popular that I can’t buy the stuff any more. /snark
Coming in just now; out working……. I believe it is a good memory that the Unlovely Liar Edelman is a Founder PNAC member, in which case he will have one been of those involved in “A Clean Break – a Strategic Plan for the Realm (1996)”, and therefore ’nuff said. Was he not rather closely connected to Feith and Franklin and therefore possibly ‘In the frame’ for the A*P*C spying case?
BTW, why are we always modded if we write ‘it’ in full?
TiredFed @ 86
I JUST got off the phone with one of the receptionists at Leahey’s office
No wait, a real sweetheart!
Anyway, I told her how proud I was of the senator and I asked if she would “pass along a suggestion for me if she thought it was appropriate”
I said I read the letter he was sending to the “ag” and where it said “impeding our efforts at oversite” it should read;
“impede our sworn obligation to provide oversite”
she liked it, said she would pass that along
I hope she does
LS
Thanks for the links. I do remember that episode but had forgotten about it.
It would be amazing with all the stress that W’s under, if it didn’t show up in some form, physical or behavioral.
Biodun
Are you thinking the Camp David “mountain top retreat” is going to be renamed The Berghof soon?
No new spins on the broken record:
Free and stable? Not for a long time whether we’re there or not.
Rayne at 203
Tin foil….it’s the new black.
Rayne @ 204
Mine is real tin and I am never without it.
Rayne @ 203
As you sounded a bit Karen Kwiatkowski @98, I sent you a relevant link @152.
I’ve had two colonoscopies, and I wouldn’t have handed over the car keys to Cheney to drive me home afterwards, never mind handing over power to run the bloody country. Chrissakes, look what he did when someone handed him a lady’s fowling piece. Whoops…lawyer down.
This move of blanket ExecPriv, shows me in no uncertain terms that BushCo is ready to spring the trap it started building in 2000.
This is the “Whada ya gonnado about it?!” moment.
Their trap will be sprung around the time Harriet is busted by imminent contempt.
But on your best Velvet, friends. The time has come.
What is the opinion of the constitutional scholars here on this question: Could congress pass a law that says no recess appointments for people who were rejected or blocked or submitted to the Senate, a la Josh Bolton, e.g.?
While in no way claiming to be a constitutional scholar, it would seem sensible to me that a person who was previously rejected could not be recess-appointed. A more interesting questions might come up as to how to treat individuals who had their appointments pulled before a vote, a la Sam Fox.
Was Bolton’s nomination pulled, or rejected – I can’t remember.
But at any rate, such a law would be sure to suffer the wrath of Bush’s veto crayon.
Biodun @ 208
I was most intrigued by the use of the word ’still’ in the bolded sentence. When I heard him say it, it sounded despairing.
perris @ 205
he also has a truly remarkable communications director. she even answers her own phone!
Milan River @ 207
Wasn’t Hitler’s “eyrie” Berchtesgaden?
Thought one of his places was Berghof.
Christy’s upstairs and she’s talking about boobs!!!
now that we are in EPU land, I thought I would start a new feature here in the comments: A Daily Lesson in Impeachment (From the U.S. Senate Archives).
February 5, 1798
To Arrest an Impeached Senator
When barely nine years old, the Senate confronted a crisis of authority. An impeached senator refused to attend his trial in the Senate chamber. Unlike the House of Representatives, or the British House of Commons, the Senate lacked a Sergeant at Arms to enforce its orders. On February 5, 1798, the Senate expanded the duties, title, and salary of its doorkeeper to create the post of Sergeant at Arms. It then directed that officer to arrest the fugitive senator—the Honorable William Blount of Tennessee.”
Today, the Senate Sergeant at Arms is the only person in the country with the authority to arrest the President of the United States.
Milan River @ 218
It was probably the “Berghof” (”mountain palace”) at Berchtesgaden.
Is there a gastroenterologist in the room? I think that if Bush had had a clean colonoscopy in the last year or two he would not need another for another 10 years. If some polyps were found, then he would need annual colonoscopies until there was a clean one and then the timeframe would be extended out to 3 to 5 years.
Looks like I am going to take my dog Jake who reads entrails
out of retirement. He has a good nose for omens. Chertoff
awakened his dormant talents by talking about his guts. Now
Bush is going to have his entrails examined. It’s like we are
living in the Roman Empire. If past life reincarnation is to be
entertained who would Bush and Cheney be channeling from
the Roman times? times are so bleak here we need some
historical thinking.
Subway Serenade @ 213
Can we PLEASE all say it together:
TILLMAN
Its all good.
jayt @ 214
It seems pretty clear that Congress could not pass such laws. The power to make an interim appointment is specified in the constitution. There is another approach, which would be to challenge the authority of the president to make interim appointments during recesses known as intra-session recesses, that is, recesses that occur during the course of a seated congress. There are some views that the power is meant to be used only during inter-session recesses i.e. between the 110′th and the 111′th congress. However, as long as we have the current SCOTUS there would be no point in making such a challenge.
A’57 @ 155
new talking points?
Hugh @ 129
We are just gaining some ground and congress is about to break for what, an entire month? Bush and Goebbels Co will have an entire month of speeches like this with no push back!
Aside from little ole stuff like impeachment, dying troops, daily over site, recess appointments etc.. Congress should not take a recess in August.
Tiredfed@86
“impede our sworn obligation to provide oversite”
TiredFed you are our TiredFREUD:
it’s overSIGHT. The Congress provides oversight. FDL provides the OVERSITE, the site that (thanks in part to you) oversees the overseers.
Someone should do a collection of our unintentional puns. yesterday re Reichstag, someone asked about “reigning the administration in. ” its reining, of course, but with this King George, reigning is just right. just write FDL pups, you keep me hoping (and hopping.)
OT, checkout TPMemos for the present that “Wait, wait don’t tell me” just gave Fitz for his taping tmr.’s show. Hint, it has two wheels.
TiredFed@86, more seriously.
is there anyway to find all the recess and interim appointments and check just how many are in a Bradbury/Edelman/Griffin-and-who-knows-how many-more-overstaying situation?
I would be happy to contribute to the endeavor if takes research elbow grease.
Babs is great, but this clip is even better:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tNeNUve1knk
tommytimp @ 231
DUDE! Valerie Wilson was a part of the Production Team! (see credits)
707 (ok not *the* VW, but *a* VW)
or maybe….?
“A full withdrawal, …..would take 20 months or longer,”
Really Dumb Question: weren’t we able to move into Iraq in less than one-month’s time ???
They have no need for contingency planning to leave Iraq because they plan never to leave, never, ever. Have you seen the size of the US “Embassy” compound being built in Baghdad? Its the size of the national mall in DC. And lets not forget abt permanent military bases which the SCLM is afraid to ask about.
BlueStateRedHead @ 230
that would take some doing. no idea if anyone is really keeping track, but all recess appointments are recorded at Whitehouse.gov. Not in any systematic way of course, so you can’t tell who has overstayed their welcome. You would have to check each one. Would be quite an undertaking.
Peep Gladys Knight doing this tune in 1977.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSRCaWlvMsM
Smokin.
I’m sure a contingency withdraw plan is the farthest thing from the Bush Administration’s mind right now as they have no plans to leave Iraq. Hell, they are trying their best to get two more Friedman Units still out of the “surge.” The letter to Hillary shows that the republican election smear campaign is in full swing against the democratic frontrunners so the election has officially begun. Everyone in the White House will be working their buns off politicizing anything Obama and Clinton say or do, all on the taxpayer’s money. It will be interesting to see if Bush is allowed to endorse the rebublican nominee.