Chris Matthews had Judy Miller on Hardball yesterday, and treated her like one of the chummy journamalism crew. And then…Uh. Mah. Gawd (H/T C&L. Be forewarned, the clip will piss you off.):
Matthews: Judy, you’re a hero to the press. You are a woman to be trusted with secrets and thank you for coming on.
Hero? Trusted? What in the hell was Chris Matthews smoking yesterday? Has he spoken to anyone who works for the NYTimes in this lifetime?!? Trusted with whose secrets? Cripes. Let’s review, shall we:
– Emptywheel’s Sweet Judy Blew Lies.
Well, as Reuters says, this makes it a lot more likely Fitz will be able to sew up his neat little conspiracy case.
One source involved in the investigation said Miller’s notes could help Fitzgerald show a long-running and orchestrated campaign to discredit Wilson, which could help form the basis for a conspiracy charge.
Poor little Judy was so proud that she had gotten concessions from Fitzgerald. Concessions from the guy who was about to present her with the evidence she had committed perjury. Poor little Judy, who will now have to expose a whole network of sources in a pathetic attempt to get in Fitz’ good graces. I think the book deal and the martyrdom will have to wait for a while.
– Digby’s Judy’s Enablers.
I had not realized until I read this that Raines and Boyd had been around the paper as late as June of 2003. This clears something up for me. I have found it completely bizarre that Miller claimed she pitched the story to an editor and yet her editor, Jill Abramson, says it never happened. Miller refused to name the editor yesterday, which means she’s either lying outright or she has a reason not to name the person.
The White House had been agitated about Wilson since the spring, particularly about Nicholas Kristoff’s NYT columns in May, using Wilson as an anonymous source. Raines and Boyd resigned on June 5, 2003.
I think it’s likely that Miller pitched the idea to Raines or Boyd before they left, which means that she was on this Wilson beat weeks before she admits to it. And it explains why she won’t say to whom she pitched it.
It also means that she could have been operating independently during this period, before Bill Keller was named executive editor and pulled her off the WMD beat. Keller wasn’t kicked upstairs until July 14, 2003, coincidentally the day that Novak published his famous column.
Somebody should probably try to get Gerald Boyd and Howell Raines on the record.
– Swopa’s Judith Miller Does Scooter Libby’s Laundry.
Got that? As of June 2003, folks like Scooter Libby and Karl Rove were sitting around with the true story of how Wilson’s trip to Niger happened — which included none of the three leaks that would turn up later — and not getting very far with it from a PR standpoint. And nobody who was talking to the Washington Post was saying anything about Wilson’s wife. But come the second week in July, as I alluded to just over a week ago, word that Wilson’s wife worked for the CIA (Leak 1) was seemingly everywhere, with the other pieces of what Robert Novak would soon write lurking in the shadows.
What happened in between? Oh, look — hello, it’s Judy Miller. In her firsthand account of her grand jury testimony, St. Judith writes of her conversation with Lewis “Scooter” Libby, VP Dick Cheney’s chief of staff, in his office on June 23, 2003:
My notes indicate that Mr. Libby took issue with the suggestion that his boss had had anything to do with Mr. Wilson’s trip. “Veep didn’t know of Joe Wilson,” I wrote, referring to the vice president. “Veep never knew what he did or what was said. Agency did not report to us.”
Soon afterward Mr. Libby raised the subject of Mr. Wilson’s wife for the first time. I wrote in my notes, inside parentheses, “Wife works in bureau?” I told Mr. Fitzgerald that I believed this was the first time I had been told that Mr. Wilson’s wife might work for the C.I.A. . . . As to the question mark, I said I wasn’t sure what it meant. Maybe it meant I found the statement interesting. Maybe Mr. Libby was not certain whether Mr. Wilson’s wife actually worked there. Now let’s recall something that Libby lied about supposedly said during his grand jury testimony about his first meeting with Miller (which he postdated to July 8th): “Libby told Miller he heard that Wilson’s wife had something to do with sending him but he did not know who she was or where she worked, the source said.”
If this is what he said to Miller on June 23rd, given that Wilson had been sent to Niger by the CIA, Judy’s margin note (“Wife works in bureau?”) seems like a reasonable reaction, doesn’t? Sure, it seems like a leading question — Libby asking about something he almost certainly knew or could have found out on his own — but, hmm, maybe there was a certain logic behind that. But back to the gospel according to St. Judith, relating her rendezvous with Scooter at the St. Regis Hotel on July 8th…
– Jane on Judy, Judy, Judy.
Judy was loathed by the people she trampled on during her tenure at the Times, people who had to suck it up and take the heat for her crap reporting. She castigates the blogs for passing off speculation as fact? She led the fucking country into war with her quote-unquote “reporting” about non-existent WMDs and then breezily gave herself a pass because her sources misled her (so she says). She makes even the most lowly, conspiracy-theory laden blogger look Pulitzer worthy when compared to what she calls journalism. Blog traffic soars expressly because she is the poster girl for everything that’s wrong with traditional media right now.
– Jay Rosen on Times Report on Judy Miller.
Finally, it says so much about this case, about the information underworld of confidential sources, how little the Times own rules mattered to her, and how far gone Miller herself is when, in her account accompanying the Times article, she says:
Mr. Fitzgerald asked about a notation I made on the first page of my notes about this July 8 meeting, “Former Hill staffer.”
My recollection, I told him, was that Mr. Libby wanted to modify our prior understanding that I would attribute information from him to a “senior administration official.” When the subject turned to Mr. Wilson, Mr. Libby requested that he be identified only as a “former Hill staffer.” I agreed to the new ground rules because I knew that Mr. Libby had once worked on Capitol Hill.
Telling. (Let Josh Marshall explain why.) The new description for Libby is wholly misleading to readers—amounting to a lie, a misdirection play—but Miller is fine with it because it’s technically true.
– Jane on Judy Miller And the WHIGs.
Working through Miller, and taking advantage of her closeness to Times publisher Arthur Sulzberger, and the fact that she wouldn’t let anybody edit her but somehow managed get almost anything to the paper—[She called herself "Miss Run Amok," and said it meant “I can do whatever I want.”]—the guys figured out that by feeding Judy bad stuff, they could not only avoid the Times laborious editing process but they could sell their war through its pages.
– Me on Dear Richard Cohen.
Oh, and in case you were wondering how Judy Miller got caught up in all of this mess, we prosecutors like to call it “accessory” — as in potentially prosecutable along with all the other folks involved if she was aiding and abetting the conspiracy to commit a crime. Poor Judy, carried water for people breaking the law and got caught. How dare a prosecutor want to see her treated like every other living, breathing citizen in this country?!? (Okay, I’m not really outraged, but I was trying to appear empathetic to you here. How am I doing?)
Perhaps you journalists (if I can be so bold as to count you among them) ought to reconsider being human shields for people who use you to commit odious crimes, and then leave you to rot in jail because they are too craven to accept responsibility for what they have done.
And the myriad of other Judy gems in the FDL vault. Pick one. Any one. And see what a “hero” Judy Miller really is, in all her fucking glory.
For heaven’s sake, if Hardball is going to touch anything dealing with the Fitzgerald investigation in the future, let David Shuster handle it. At least David understands the meaning of journalism — and doesn’t practice fact-free, fawning droolery in public. Judy Miller. Hero. Don’t make me puke.
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mornin’ Christy
Good morning Christy!
Morning everyone. I’m gonna need more coffee…
why was judyjudyjudy on Hardball anyway? Pimping some new book? Or just a generalized rehabilitation and, by the way, would someone please give me a job?
Good mornin’. You are on fire again this morning. I’m starting to think lack of sleep stokes the redheads fire.
Morning, Christy:
Thanks for the editor nugget. That had really confused me.
And I’m glad I don’t watch Hardball – it sounds awful.
Hero to the Press just how much are they paying him? Judy got a Pulitzer for her “stories ” about Iraq. Her “stories ” turned out to be just that a bunch of lies fed to her by Scooter and company.
Did she ever think of having more than one source. How about having a single unbiased source who don’t have a stake in her presenting a story with a proBush outcome. How about double checking her sources and indepently confirming there “facts “.
She went to jail to protect a source who lied to her! Judy and Tweety are the reason why nobody trusts the MainStream Media! I want her stripped of her Pulitzer!
The New York Times actually has an editorial this morning explaining what actually went down with the filibuster the other night.
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/07…..thur1.html
So he’s graduated from Fred Thompson’s Aqua Velva and English Leather to sniffing Judy’s panties? Excuse me while I puke in my soup.
things come undone @ 7
I wonder if that is possible, and if so what we would have to do to get it done. She doesn’t deserve it. She is a hack acting as a journalist.
Didn’t see it and can’t see it, thanks to dial-up……..and probably best for the old BP. ;-) Shuster just gets better…….tweety, worse.
CHS -
*nit* for purposes of spotlighting:
last -graph: David understand(s)
O/t -
And vitter thought hiding behind his wife’s skirt was gonna end his problems: *g*
http://www.nola.com/news/t-p/f…..amp;coll=1
Hardball? This program should be called Goofball. Matthews is just another slimeball. Goofball, starring Slimeball. Why is this clown still on the air? Sheesh.
smoke on the water
fire in the sky
Christy on JudyJudyJudy
Maybe what he meant was: Hero to the Press_ident
It’s very frustrating to watch Matthews at all. I’ve seen him eviscerate pundits one day, then totally fawn all over them the next. It’s almost like watching someone with bipolar disorder. However, this is just one more Beltway hack who somehow got his own show. Please take him away and give it to Shuster, who’s doing a stellar job in Washington.
OT – Isn’t today Liarman’s hearing on the “progress” being made on Katrina issues?
If so, it should be a very short hearing.
EPU-ed:
Perhaps the Millers and Novaks of the world could learn a thing or two from this wiseman. Talking now about the takeover of news by international conglomerates.
Luckily for those of us who don’t get home in time to see him at 5, his 7 pm show was preempted by the NYC steam pipe story. But what do you expect from him? After all, he was in LA for the TV Critics Tour, or whatever they call it, and he was gonna be on Leno later that night (actually probably right after the show) and you know that all he cares about his how famous he is. He probably didn’t even pay attentiion during the interview as all he was thinking was, “Will Jay have me on first?”
So when is Judy going to write her book I’m sure Tweety will have her on again to promote her book and tell her side of the story.
But I bet Tweety won’t mention that she got fired from the Times because nobody there bought her version of what happened.
She protected a guy who not only lied to her, cost her her job he also tried to get her to leak Valerie Palme’s identity as a spy. Her reputation as a reporter is in the toilet, job gone, almost got her to commit treason but still she defends him. Does she have super powers? It seems Judy is impervious to reality.
It’s amazing to watch these flamboyant attempts to shuffle the deck of “heroes” and “villains” without touching the real issues. Judy Miller a hero and Valerie Plame a villain? Don’t make me gag. Thanks Christy for hammering on the facts.
“fact-free, fawning droolery.” I think that just about sums it up. It was really hard to watch.
Keeping secrets? So where did I get the idea that a reporters job was to, well, report?
Last paragraph: “David understands”
Good morning all. This just in: Diane Sawyer apologizes for getting it wrong about the filibuster. Hehe.
Fern @ 22
Oh, Fern, that is such a bunch of pre 9-11 thinking…everybody knows that reporters are really court stenographers for the administration *snark*
Oh, and why the hell could Judy possibly not be able to talk about the case now? Huh? Because it might jeopardize Scooter’s ability to be on probation?
She’s not a reporter, she’s a political operative. When are these people going to realize this.
I could hardly bear this. Creating their own reality, they are. And screw the rest of us.
So when in Judy going to apologize?
Audrey @ 24
Hi, Jane! Hope you’re feelin’ stronger this mornin’.
Miller and Novak Rehab Tour now in progress, being mostly pushed by MSNBC?
Maybe it’s just me, but alleged Acts of Treason committed in furtherance of a PR vendetta/agenda by people in the WH [WHIG, Chee-knee, Bush, Rove…I’m talkin’ about you] in collusion with predictably usable shills like Novak and Miller seems worth talkin’ about…and investigating by Fitz and grand juries.
Does Judy have a book coming out it seems she has been poping up lately. I can’t imagine why anyone in the news media should and would value her “cough ” insight on current affairs.
Jane Hamsher @ 27
‘Mornin’ Jane. You know, I don’t blame the Administration (a rattlesnake is a rattlesnake after all) as much as I blame the Judy Millers out there for ALL of the problems we’re having. It’s the media that really has blood on its hands. Nothing riles me more than they do.
A twofer! Jane and Christy on the same thread. Nice. So, is Harriet in jail yet?
John Kerry is on C-span’s Washington Journal. Damn he is so impressive and straight up. This would be worth watching later if you miss it
http://www.c-span.org/watch/cs…..mp;Code=CS
Glad you picked up on this Christy. I was shocked. Just proved to me how journalist will protect journalist (Doctors too) no matter what. What the hell were the producers of Hardball or Chris thinking? The American public reject liars and fabricators like Judy Miller.
The fact that Robert Novak (who went along with the outing of Valerie Plame Wilson) and Judy Miller (who fed the American public lies and fabrications about WMD’s in Iraq via the inept oversight of the editors at the New York Times) still have access to the air waves. This shows how corrupt and twisted the MSM continues to be. WE DO NOT WANT TO HEAR FROM PROVEN LIARS, FABRICATORS AND TRAITORS.
We need an OFFICIALS SECRETS ACT http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Official_Secrets_Act
like the U.K. so that Journalist (Judy Miller, Robert Novak etc) who are LIARS, FABRICATORS AND TRAITORS can be prosecuted. At the very least the American people, under cover agents, Iraqi people and others around the world need to be protected from these criminals.
You watch Judy Miller is going to be hitting it hard to pass more Shield Laws to protect journalist from being held responsible for false and fatal reporting such as hers.
Yesterday
Kathleen
July 18th, 2007 at 6:34 pm
Why would Chris Matthews have a known liar and fabricator like Judy “I was fucking right” Miller on his program to talk about Al Queda?
Unless you want to be lied to.
Who in the hell would believe anything Judy Miller has to say? She is drowning in the Iraqi peoples blood.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036697/
But you don’t understand – She’s one of the kewl kids! They can do whatever they want. They don’t have to be bothered with obeying silly things like ethical rules and laws.
The NYT is a puzzle – the editorials are pretty much spot on these days, but then the reporters shilling for a war in Iran are still inking up the front page on a regular basis. How is that possible in light of the history of other reporters’ shams?
((((Jane)))) How are you feeling? Are you getting the better of the chemo fog?
Jane Hamsher @ 21
I’m really starting to believe these “fawn droolery” individuals have a stash of some of the best sh*t ever grown. BTW they should
sharegive it to those people that really need it say…those with medical conditions who need relief.Were any of the involved journalists named in the Wilson’s civil suit? It might explain the rehab efforts if they were.
Only slightly OT, but the Hartford Courant editorial today also gets the info correct on what happened Tuesday night.
Her Pulitzer prize should be taken back now that the real truth is known.
Only a half an hour with Senator Kerry on Washington Journal and he blew through the myth about Al Queda being in Iraq prior to the invasion, the persistent shameful tactics of the Republicans to undermine his military service, he ran over the “cakewalk in Iraq” zealots who are committed to regime change in the middle east, and reaffirmed the recommendation of the Iraq study Group that there should be a REGIONAL PEACE CONFERENCE in the middle east.
All of this and more in one half hour. While I do not agree with everything that Kerry has to say. Many of us worked our asses off for him in southeastern Ohio, Columbus and Cincinnati. It was the Swiftboat Smear tactics that took him down in this region.
Really worth the listen and watch
The world would be very different if he had become our President in 2004
Thunderbird @ 15
and the attendant: ‘bipolarity avoidance disorder military industrial complex’
He knows exactly how to push buttons on the left as well as right.
I’m sure he (and maybe his producers) thinks this makes a powerful program.
He loves any attention, and is very jaded about life.
Kathleen @ 41
I wonder if Kerry and Gore feel freer to speak outside of the presidential candidate role. I’ve never followed the campaigns that closely except to come away with the perception that they are over-managed in terms of message. Maybe once the harness of the tightly controlled message is off, they can speak more naturally, more comprehensively and more freely. Gore and Kerry are both passionate, intelligent and insightful, and it’s wonderful to be able to hear them opine when they are at ease.
c-span alert!
at 9:30, representative reyes, chairman of the house intelligence committee will be on c-span washington journal call-in show.
will anyone call in to ask about the “Democratic refusal to declassify the complete report on Cunningham’s House Intelligence Committee contracting?“
it really should be emptywheel… i just sent her an email (from her dkos uid) in case she’s interested. but it starts in 15 minutes, so i doubt she’ll see it in time (even if she is interested).
It is just sick the attempted “rehab” of Judy
Miller. Perhaps as a political operative she
will now be running the media propaganda
campaign for the forth coming war against
Iran. Maybe Murdoch will hire her on when he
acquires the WSJ and it becomes the WSS (Wall
Street Slime).
Timmy’s reputation was hurt during the trial and I think that by dismissing the Libby trial, NBC hopes to restore their star.
Good Morning Christy.
Sure hope you got a good restful sleep last night.
I caught Judyjudyjudy on Tweety last night too. Was trying to throw dinner together and -suddenly- found myself immobile & staring in combo horror/fascination as both of them made such fools of themselves. Absolutely unbelievagable!
Do I understand you correctly that this now opens her up to questioning by Fitz? I’m gonna have to take more time to scour all your quotes up in the post. Woo Hoo.
(also gotta contact & thank some senators today, ahem, & swat Voinovich once more, for good measure, heh)
Any chance Habeas Corpus will come up today in the Senate???
too many questions jammed in here. i know. sorry. Terrific post. Thank You! Hope it was fun to write, heh.
One never knows what two-faced Tweety is going to say next. He really seems to see these war criminals in the same light as bad actors from the Sopranos, everyone is a star worthy of occasional feigned scorn but always worthy of a kiss on the cheek which maintains his own celebrity status.
I cannot help but wonder if Cheney asked Russert to get Judy back into favorable limelight which may be why we saw her on Tweety’s love in yesterday.
And speaking of bad actors, firedog GSD posted an article from the LA Times last night where we find out the “worst of Al Qaeda in Iraq” may very well be a fictional character.. This one comes straight out of bizarro world folks.
Mabel’s Wig Shack @ 42
I know this is very confusing. I have stood up for Matthews on this blog based on his hardball questioning of the “cakewalk in Iraq” zealots when they are willing to come on his show. (not many of them will come on any longer). He seemed to learn from the mistakes of the MSM’s complete failure to question the false claims being repeated in the run-up to the invasion. But this “fawning” of Judy Miller (in his club) and his obvious inability to play harball with Miller. This was so hypocritical and incredibly disgusting.
When will Matthews GET IT that the American people are trying to search for facts, and we want the MSM to do their f-ing jobs. Allowing Judy Miller on his program and not asking her tough questions demonstrates Matthews lack of integrity and commitment to the American people’s “right to know” and the truth.
TiredFed @ 32
Don’t know, but they are having a meeting today re: the RNC. Kinda the same type of meeting they had last week re Harriet; to decide what to do. Watch it here at 1:00:
RNC E-mails
Yupper. Judy Miller isn’t a reporter, she’s an operative. Pure and simple.
Meanwhile, if you’re wondering why fake-”moderate” Republicans like Arlen Specter are upset with Harry Reid today, it’s because Reid’s cut off their last lines of escape: By pulling the defense authorization bill until the Republicans stop filibustering the Reed-Levin bill, he’s also made it impossible for any of the toothless pretend-withdrawal bills like the Warner-Lugar nonsense or the Salazar Distraction to be tacked onto it.
In other words, the “maverick” GOPers like Specter now have two, and only two, options:
1) Vote to bring the troops home, or:
2) Vote to back Bush. Mister Twenty-Five Percent.
That’s why the Republicans are especially pissed off today. They’re trapped and they know it.
Selise I was just on line at C-span holding for Reyes in five minutes…my phone went dead. I sent in your question
Sam @ 46
That’s definitely going to happen. And watch for a lot more of her shit on the editorial pages.
Helen @ 51
Any one of us would be in jail by now if we had defied congress. More of this Justice horseshit!
JPL @ 47
Hoo boy. That sounds like a dicey bet. But nothing would surprise us at this point, eh?
I’ve said it hundreds if not thousands of times. The MSM is as big a problem, in some ways bigger, that the Republican Party. They are craven, complicit and compliant. People expect that the MSM will at some point have a collective epiphany and change their slovenly ways. It will not happen. They are too wedded to power, priviledge and money. They no longer are the 4th Estate but a 5th column. The 4th Estate now resides on the blogs.
Kathleen @ 5:59 am -
If I am not mistaken, two existing statutes discussed on previous threads apparently apply to improper dissemination of classified information: 18 USC 793 and 18 USC 794.
When I think ‘Judy Miller’, I think Harriet Miers, Karen Hughes, Condi Rice and Eva Braun.
I am also thinking I am not displeased with my party’s actions on that overnighter on Iraq. ;0)
What a nice Oklahoma morning here. The Sun is bright, there’s a cool south breeze. It feels good to be Democrat.
One for Timmeh: How the News Works!
Kathleen @ 53
thanks for trying! my phone is dead this morning, gotta go buy an new one…
ackk! i hope someone gets through to ask him about stonewalling. we elected dems in the house to stop this kind of thing.
TiredFed @ 32
No, because the full House has not yet voted to cite her for contempt of Congress.
“Judy Miller isn’t a reporter, she’s an operative.”
That about says it.
49 American soldiers killed in Iraq this month. The total dead is up to 3,628.
http://icasualties.org/oif
The people of just California have spent $57.8 billion on this war. That would have paid for
4,380 new elementary schools or provided 23,700,000 people with health care.
http://database.nationalpriorities.org/tradeoff
Most excellent piece, CHS!!!! Donation check will be in the mail this morning……..I’ve been remiss in not doing it sooner.
Long may you run FDL………the truth is out there, just not in MSM, and most definetly not in any piece of trash written by the likes of Miller, Novak, and the other traitors of the truth. God, what a toll it takes on the soul of one who sells out.
Mathews should have had Maureen Dowd on the set with her and said that. That would have really been explosive.
Phoenix Woman @ 52
It was a masterful job. I especially liked how Reid offered to hold votes on the Warner and Salazar amendments if the Republicans would allow a vote on Levin-Reed, but the Republicans turned him down. Only after that did he pull the Defense Authorization Bill.
O/T but does anyone know anything about that letter from (I think) Waxman to Gonzo saying that he expects more than “I don’t know” from his testimony next week?
And here is how the news works in other countries:
Murdoch had a hotline to Blair in the run-up to Iraq war.
the fair thing to do would have a gore/kerry ticket for P. and VP.
after all, they both won their elections.
Anyone here ever seen an Abyssinian kitten play?
Well, aside from the fact that Abys are WAY smarter than Tweety on his best days, the kittens’ manic ability to leap wildly around in play, going after any bright little thing in their universe…
in a way, that’s Tweety.
either that or a hyper dawg who’s forever chasing squirrels, & then forgetting what he was doing, in mid chase, and just running in wild circles with his tongue flapping, like an idiot.
in a way, that’s Tweety.
occasionally he makes sense, and then *poof*
off he goes…
last night, i just had to turn him off. the slobbering adoration of judy. but then i just had to turn him back on & stare in morbid fascination. just.amazing.
I have to go to Dallas tonight. And on the way back, I’ll be playing this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hfgZ8sRqB8c
GeorgeSimian @ 68
Leahy to Gonzales: Start Trying to Remember Now
GeorgeSimian @ 68
It’s from Leahy to Gonzales. It’s posted at TPM http://www.tpmmuckraker.com/archives/003720.php
The letter includes interesting nuggets including that the DOJ lawyer who signed off on Harriet having immunity had served beyond the 210 day limit for an acting position.
Thanks, Christie. Matthews is unbelievable.
May I quote myself, from a Washington Post chat?
In theory we send these people out to report back to us. Some of them penetrate the secret worlds of national security and government policy-making on our behalf. But if they keep going into the secret world they can come under the gravitational pull of another planet– the people in power, the secret-makers themselves. They’re still sending back their reports, but have “left” our universe, so to speak. I think this definitely happened with Judith Miller, who is very far gone by now. It may have happened with Woodward too. The mysterious part is you never know exactly when that point is reached.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 59
yup!
Good Morning Kiddo ;->
Stephen Parrish, CPA @ 62
aha. that’s necessary then? gotta go back and bone up on procedure some more. I had thought that the Committee Chair had authority to issue inherent contempt citation and order her arrest. thanks.
Mabel’s Wig Shack @ 70
What a nice thought to start the day!
Well, a tiny bit of good news:
Olbermann will be the moderator of the Dem candidates’ debate in Chicago on August 7.
What is it with Matthews? Early Alzhiemers? Mad Cow?
He’s become a complete tool…
Oklahoma kiddo @ 72
they sure are rocking there but man they sure dont look like merle haggard do they?
the senate committee on energy and natural resources is holding it’s hearing this morning on
webcast available here.
dover bitch has the details posted over at digby’s place. time to end (i hope) what DeLay called it “a perfect petri dish of capitalism.” – legalized slavery, forced prostitution and abortions.
{{{{{{Jane}}}}}}
Good morning!
Just noticed you here. whoa.
Gotta go get my coffee & pay attn. Back in a sec.
Kathleen @ 34
Last thing we need. Whistleblowers are already on the endangered species list. That’d wipe ‘em out.
Selise, are you the “keeper” of the list of House & Senate hearing schedules?
According to Stephanie Miller, she’s going to be before some committee today testifying about the Fairness Doctrine. Do you have info re which committee? [I searched the Tubes but couldn’t find anything.]
OT: Just wanted to bring this site to folks attention. Election 2008 It is a great site for the data junkies among us. Top of the site today is a lot of data on the money war for the House in 2008.
selise, On cspan2 now a replay of Wed. House foreign affairs joint subcommittee on the Middle East – Iraq Oil Sector.. fascinating stuff, good details and good questions.
GordonM @ 84
amen! thank goodness for actual journalists like dana priest. i want to protect them and their sources.
For Mabel’s Wig Shack only… ;0)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHgyc7VrYTA
Bluetoe @ 57
They are both arrogant and fearful. They are threatened by colleagues like Shuster who do their homework and master the facts. Most don’t want to work that hard but want nevertheless to think that they are doing a great job. So, they hate guys like Shuster.
Adie…
… ;0)!
Wapo- Bush to veto bi-partisan children’s health program and ask for 80 billion more for Iraq and Halliburton.
Spread the news.
Arca @ 80
Strangely, he did a fine job the day before. But perhaps that was someone else disguised as Tweety.
Jay Rosen @ 75
Welcome, Jay!
That makes sense in a Rod Serling kinda way.
Spooky.
wigwam @ 93
sadly, i keep wondering, “meds”?
Thunderbird @ 15
Said it before and I’ll say it again, Tweety is a loose cannon. I think Randi Rhodes got it right. He just wants to hobnob socially with all the important DC people and be invited to their parties, so he sucks up to anyone he thinks can do that for him.
Even while discredited journalistically, Ms. Miller still has “friends in high places” and no wonder.
JPL @ 47
Speaking of fawning droolery, check out this
MarketWatch
advertisement for GEpiece of hard hitting journalism on Timmeh.mauimom @ 85
well, i’m trying to keep a list (with your help!). the weekly list is here (or you can just click on my name). and i post a comment in monday morning’s first thread with the highlights of the week’s scheduled hearings.
i don’t see anything obvious on the list wrt the fairness doctrine… will go looking for it at the individual committee websites.
i usually compile the weekly list on sunday, so not only might i miss an important hearing, if a hearing gets posted during the week then i’m almost surely going to miss it, unless some nice firepup brings it to my attention. *g*
What the hell was with Matthews making that comment about the “cleanliness” of the Moveon anti-war protestors. If Matthews and Shuster had been doing their f-ing jobs before the invasion and been out on the streets at the anti-invasion marches in Washington (OCt 2002,Jan 2003) and in New York (Feb 2003) where friends of mine who lost their daughter who was an airline stewardess on United Flight 175 marched with (9/11 families against the invasion). These were the marches I attended before the invasion and I saw with my own eyes who was there. I swear half of the crowds were made up of people over 50.( I walked with the WWII Vets and some of these guys were in their 90’s) (and they were clean too) where were you Matthews and Shuster? Not there that’s where. You failed the American public, American soldiers, the Iraqi people and most of all the truth!
http://sweetalicia.org/foundation/index.htm
http://www.september11victims……asp?ID=152
Matthews and all of the other f-ing “groupthink” MSM robots would have seen and interviewed (imagine that) WWII, Korean, Vietnam, Desert Storm Vets, families pushing grandmothers in wheelchairs and babies in strollers, teachers, teamsters, social workers, students etc etc at those marches. And guess what Matthews, they were clean too. But you weren’t there, Shuster was not there and the rest of the MSM did not report honestly about who, why and how many people were accumulatively at these anti-invasion marches nationwide.
Anyone else notice how Matthews, and even Diane Rehms will say where is the “outrage” about the war. Hello the outrage was out on the streets and Rehms, NpR and Matthews were not! 30 million people world wide marched against the invasion.
Marhces before the war.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P…..12.2C_2002
Matthews if you and the rest of the MSM would have been doing your jobs we would more than likely not be in Iraq. So do your f-ing job ask hard questions of all sides and quit with the snide, childish, arrogant comments about Bill’s behaviour, the cleanliness of anti war protestors, and Hillary’s outfits. Get down to business, we want the facts, we want real dialogue and debate, real news.
Not that Matthews will remember but I am the “bold soccer mom bitch” that politely talked with him at the Libby trial. After discussing several topics I asked Matthews why MSNBC barely ever reports about the I/Palestinian conflict and when they do it is incredibly lop-sided. His response “I do not control the programming at MSNBC”
Helen @ 51
Sheesh. “Decide what to do”. It is crystal clear what to do: inherent contempt NOW because you will be forced to do it anyway after a long, corrupt, drawn-out walk through Bush’s (il)legal system. It drives me nuts when the endpoint is so friggin’ clear and so much time and effort can be saved by simply stepping from this step to that step…but then for “comity” and “decorum” blah blah they elect to take a long, slow, pointless circuitious route to the same endpoint.
“meds”
Kinda applies to a lot of ‘em. Big Pharma’s gift to democracy.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 59
Nice to see you feeling so optimistic this morning! Savor the moment.
Still O/T, but when Leahy gets some more “I don’t know’s” from Gonzo, especially regarding information that could simply be looked up in an appointment book, can they finally put him in contempt?
Just sent this to hardball
Jay Rosen @ 75
Right on!
wigwam @ 90
They are dependent on the same corporate interests that turn the bulk of today’s politicians- oil, pharma, big agri- this in the form of advertisements. What we really need is federal sponsorship for a key block of the media (a major TV and radio station) as is the case in G.B., France, and Germany among others. Unfortunately public broadcasting has been framed so that it will not compete with the privates, and alas, it has been politicized into pressing the Bushie agenda.
Eureka Springs @ 87
thanks for the heads up! i can’t watch it now (i’m recording the audio of the senate energy and natural resources committee), but will try to catch it in the c-span archives.
jayt @ 4
BOYCOTT ANY JUDY MILLER BOOKS!
SHE IS DROWNING IN THE IRAQI PEOPLES AND AMERICAN SOLDIERS BLOOD AND IS SUCH A PSYCHOPATH SHE DOES NOT EVEN KNOW IT
I wonder if there couldn’t be some journalistic equivalent of “Love Boat” or “Hollywood Squares” where Judy Miller and others could play out their careers. Or maybe interviews in piano bars or Las Vegas.
Here’s a completely freaking loopy clip…
Forbes Publisher Rich Karlgaard on Fox:
Dead U.S. Soldiers Are Okay… Because They’re Volunteers ~ LINK
Matthews and Miller, were “creating a Rove reality”. How many talking points can you count from last night’s “false flag” operation? These two neo-cons were posing as journalists, as they continued the Libby coverup. They were also preparing us for the next for the next bright shiny reality. More violence from crazed, scary infidel “bad guys”.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 89
thank you. a pretty clean-cut merle but i can just feel the dark clouds careening around inside his chest! :-)
Come on upstairs for more good stuff from Christy.
Chipping-In and happy Blogosphere Day!
Too good. Matthews helping with Miller’s journalistic rehab. Is he going for sloppy seconds after Ahmed Chalabi?
(Joan Rivers’ finger-repeatedly-stuck-in-mouth…gah, gah, gah…)
What is a journalist? I would submit that some trusted sources in the blogosphere (FDL, Digby, Bob Geiger come quickly to mind) are filling the vacuum left in the wake of the Judy Millers and Matt Coopers of this world.
This from the Christian Science Monitor:
And a snippet from a longer article about journalism by Glenn Greewald in Salon.
My point is that we should consider spending less time on our collective angst about the stinking state of MSM journalism and celebrate (and elevate) the work of principled bloggers.
PMA @ 109
She should still be in prison for the manipulation of intelligence, lies, and abuse of her journalistic priviliges that were used to promote an unnecessary and immoral war!
barbara @ 113:
My point is that we should consider spending less time on our collective angst about the stinking state of MSM journalism and celebrate (and elevate) the work of principled bloggers.
yes.
Eureka Springs @ 49
And yet they don’t have the “actor”…and the Iraqi military says that al-Baghdadi DOES EXIST…and that the man confessing may be just trying to distract and confuse the US Military…while stopping the “hard interrogation” that is being done to him.
barbara @ 114
But if these lying, manipulating, immoral journalist are being given air time to fill the heads of those not accessing the internet world. We need to hammer Matthews for continuing to give proven liars airtime. Someone at MSNBC is looking out for Judy Miller career and wallet. Creepy
Who controls the programming at MSNBC?
The “Times” is not worth reading for fact based news. Seriously. Judith Miller’s reputation, among serious journalists, preceded all her Iraq nonsense. What came to me out of the whole Libby mess is the complete ship of fools involved in the highest “levels” of government and journalism. The Plame/Wilson team are flakes, Libby/Cheney are out of it, all Libby had to do if he wanted to lie (which he apparently did) was tell the grand jury he don’t know nothing. And the Times, while it seems to have some columnists and an editiorial board is not worth paying attention to on a daily basis.
I wish JH would raise 100 million bucks and start an “internet news service” to seriously compete with MSM.
I agree, but that’s not going to happen. I was simply commenting on the surrealistic nature of reporting and journalism these days.
Kathleen @ 114
Excellent job Christy, Jane. Thank you and the FDLrs for your untiring efforts. My check is in the mail – really.
janda @ 8
Wow. If they keep stating opinions that shrill, they may actually turn into a real newspaper someday.
Judy Miller has never come clean on her forewarnings relating to 9/11. Who was she getting this info from? Was it Libby?
http://cjrarchives.org/issues/2005/5/judycode.asp
In July of 2001, Steve Engelberg, then an editor at The New York Times, looked up to see Judy Miller standing at his desk. As Engelberg recalls, Miller had just learned from a source about an intercepted communication between two Al Qaeda members who were discussing how disappointed they were that the United States had never attempted to retaliate for the bombing of the USS Cole.
Not to worry, one of them said, soon they were going to do something so big that the U.S. would have to retaliate.
Miller was naturally excited about the scoop and wanted the Times to go with the story. Engelberg, himself a veteran intelligence reporter, wasn’t so sure. There had been a lot of chatter about potential attacks; how did they know this was anything other than big talk?
Who were these guys? What country were they in? How had we gotten the intercept? Miller didn’t have any answers and Engelberg didn’t think they could publish without more context. Miller agreed to try and find out more, but in the end the story never ran.
I have a little inside information of an indirect nature: A few months ago, I spoke to someone whose spouse who is a reporter with no small stature at the Times. This someone told me that Bill Keller and other journalists at the Times were not so crazy about what Judy had done, He suggested that Punch was Judy’s main cheerleader at the Times and that Keller wasn’t aware of the full extent of how Judy was compromised until well into the Grand Jury process. I didn’t get the impression that Judy was well liked or respected at the Times (but that they liked David Brooks, at least on a personal level. go figure). The someone kinda sorta let it slip unintentionally that Judy’s relationaship with the WH neocons was significantly intimate ie, there was some kind of arrangement to do their bidding. You know when you ask a question and the person starts to answer and then pulls back and looks like maybe he said too much? That was the look I got.
Does anyone remember that bizarre cartoon editorial about Judy’s father’s nightclub on the Hudson? It fairly oozed deep, dark creepy innuendo and sure looked like a hit piece to me. I’m sure that it was no accident that it appeared just before Judy went to jail. No, I don’t think there were many people at the Times who were Judy fans.
As for Tweety, we all know that he is a sycophant without parallel. He has made his fortune by being the Robin Leach of the Lifestyles of the Powerful and Famous. To be as successful as Tweety, you have to know how to flatter an inflated ego. Narcissistic Judy Miller must have an ego the size of a small planet. Tweety probably wanted to make her feel like only *he* knew how incredibly gifted and well respected she is. No doubt she ate it up and gave him exactly what he wanted.
mauimom @ 85 – i looked through some of the most likely committees to have a hearing on the fairness doctrine, but didn’t see anything for today. i don’t have time to keep looking right now, but if you find it – please leave me a comment. some committees do have archives of past hearings, and if so, i could rip an audio and post it for firepup’s ipods.
Like someone said above. Matthews is bi-polar.
Becca @ 92
DING!
This is the kind of thing we should have
hammered home during the slumber party.
We are soooooo stubbornly singularly focused
on shooting down lies, one by one, that
we don’t connect the dots in a way that
would OUTRAGE the public.
imho, Tillman, though disgraceful, makes people
bury their heads in shared embarrassment.
Parsing al-Qaeda from Mesopotamia-Qaeda won’t work.
heck, ’splainin obstruction won’t work, either.
US Healthcare for KIDS vs. Corporate War Profiteering
& Nationbuilding over there?
WINNER!
Get me a progressive bluey (or 3) who will stump
SMARTLY and RELENTLESSLY on POPULAR TOPICS &
THEN I will pass some cash. Capice?
I turned the channel when I saw Judy Miller on Hardball yesterday. I knew Chris would be fawning, because within the last few weeks he mentioned she is a friend of his and that he went to visit her in jail. Too bad he doesn’t understand what good journalism is. But he’s had so many jobs that he isn’t all that good at so it’s not surprising.
Keep an eye out: Bush declares Martial Law. Country yawns, changes channel.
Chris is trying to get some. Give him a break.
DrenchedOtter @ 67
That’s exactly right. Which makes Specter’s “he didn’t allow us a vote on Warner-Lugar” whining doubly bogus.
portia.vz @ 125
Of course it was Sulzberger, and “cheerleader” is an understatement for a man with executive authority at the paper. It was probably here at FDL that I read about how Sulzberger either established the channel or gave it his blessing.
artshu @ 124
What is your point or suggestion? I hope it is not that anyone in the Bush administration including Tenet could articulate the basis of a threat from the Arabs in the summer of July 2001.
“Judy Miller. Hero. Don’t make me puke.”
too late…
I have one question no one but Tweety can answer for us. Does Matthews REALLY consider Judy a hero, or was he just stroking her?
He sure seems to get all goosey with skinny women, not that I would suggest he has some psychology to overcome, but why is it that he always acts like a little boy to one of these “cutie-pies” but he’s such a tough “Hardballer” towards anyone else of any stripe or gender.
As someone who has been a movie critic, an editor, a reporter and a feature writer, and someone who has managed both boy’s hardball and girl’s softball leagues, I still LOL when I watch his dialy softball tournaments, especially when he’s got conservative women on the show, it is like “Tweety’s dark side” disappears and he becomes junior high jock with a crush on his English teacher.
It’s like a reverse “Boys to Men” more like “Men to Boys” transition. The hardballer gets all soft and fuzzy when he deals with a certain type of woman.
Easy enough to prove, now that you have heard this theory, just watch Hardball (if you can stomach it, which sometimes I can not, especially when he gets people like Delay on there and never once pops a serious corruption question.) His transformation from hardball pitcher to clumsy schoolkid with a crush is usually not hard to spot, once you come to expect it. His “Playboy” character is not very well concealed.
His transformation from hardball pitcher to clumsy schoolkid with a crush is usually not hard to spot, once you come to expect it. His “Playboy” character is not very well concealed.
Tweety also has had several crushes on men, notably, Commander Codpiece and more recently, Fred “Old Spice” Thomson.
Here’s a short article on the MSM which is most disturbing. Surprisingly it’s written by a former Reagan official. Pass it along to people who still think the U.S. has a “free” media. href=”http://http://counterpunch.org/roberts07182007.html”>
“Matthews: Judy, you’re a hero to the press. You are a woman to be trusted with secrets and thank you for coming on […].”
inexplicably edited out: “to Scooter”
Selise, if you’re still reading this: please accept my apology. It turns out Stephanie Miller was NOT in town to testify before a committee. Rather, she’s having lunch with a bunch of Democratic Senators re the Fairness Doctrine.
Thanks for putting up with my [what turned out to be] frivolous query.
mauimom @ 138
no problem! thanks for letting me know you have it figured out.
Thunderbird @ 15
Absolutely.
though I agree about the frustration watching Matthews. Sometimes I’m shouting at the TV angrily, then I’m shouting again… still angry… saying it is about fricking time. (when he is coming down hard appropriately…) I’df much rather see Tucker go. Every so often I check in to see what is going on with him and wind up writing an angry letter to MSNBC demanding they take him off the air after questioning how he got on the air, and begging them to give the show to David Shuster.
So far they haven’t listened.
And Dan Abrams is annoying too. I preferred Scarborough. (can you tell I’m a political news junky?)
FreddyMoraca @ 138
If Judy Miller is a hero to the press and Chris Matthews any threads of hope to witness the MSM clean it up are thrown out the window.
The MSM created the need for blogs and Matthews statement will keep me coming here for the truth and facts.
Mabel’s Wig Shack @ 117
What you refer to as “angst” I consider accountability. We need to hold people (liars who cause death) like Miller ACCOUNTABLE so that she or anyone else are unable to pull the same crimes against Iran or any other country or people that they have their sites on. The cakewalk liars started beating the war drums against Iran immediately after the invasion of Iraq. Liebermann, Kristol, Perle, Woolsey, Cheney and other have endlessly been repeating unsubstantiated claims about Iran for four years.
selise @ 88