Comments on: When You’re A Failure, Blame Someone Else

By: TheShape78

TheShape78 — Thu, 19 Jul 2007 00:04:56 +0000

This calls to mind that odd little map that appeared online of the United States where it was split in half as the top bleeding into Canada read:

The United States of Canada

and the bottom half read:

JesusLand

By: Che’s Lounge

Che’s Lounge — Wed, 18 Jul 2007 16:16:56 +0000

But the debate is not about a precipitous withdrawal. It is about redefining the mission, with the hope of bringing the mission in line with something more plausible, more consistent with the level of troops we can sustain, and most important, consistent (one hopes) with a more defensible view of our security interests and the virtues we respect as a nation.

Well it SHOULD be about precipitous withdrawal. The above is not the goal of the progressive left. That’s just imperialism lite.

By: David

David — Wed, 18 Jul 2007 16:08:46 +0000

The debate doesn’t matter. The stratagy doesn’t matter. The tactics don’t matter. The soldiers don’t matter. The families don’t matter. The country doesn’t matter. The oil doesn’t matter.

When will you people realize?????

George W. Bush is on a MISSION FROM GOD!!!!!

God is infallible therefore Bush’s mission is infallible. He will not stop. For any reason or for any person. He will not end the occupation. NO MATTER WHAT ACTUALLY HAPPENS.

George W. Bush is on a MISSION FROM GOD!!!!!

Out only hope to end this sensless slaughter is to impeach this monster along with his criminal henchman Cheney.

THAT IS OUR ONLY OPTION!!! Any other action is doomed to fail.

IMPEACH, INDICT, CONVICT, IMPRISON.

By: E in MD

E in MD — Wed, 18 Jul 2007 15:45:53 +0000

I thought we were invading any country that harbored terrorists? Wasn’t that our MO? That there was no difference between the terrorists and those that harbored them? So when are we invading Pakistan?

By: Knut Wicksell

Knut Wicksell — Wed, 18 Jul 2007 15:45:42 +0000

althespook @ 182

BEG @ 181

Oh my! I don’t know if this has been picked up on yet (I can NOT keep up with y’all) but this sounds like a good idea as well — pressuring the newspapers to cover things properly…!

In any case, thanks for all the commentary on the filibuster. I was not able to watch the proceedings (is CPAN closed captioned?) but it’s good to know what has been happening (and infuriating to see the news outlets tip toeing around things)…

I believe Reid and Pelosi have figured out how to crack the msm firewall as you mentioned. our phone calls and emails are important, but the msm works on “hooks”, the unusual, the dangerous, etc. confrontation is their red meat, particularly with easy to grasp visuals. this maneauver gave them that so they covered it a bit.

But, SOME papers, some TV stations are GETTING IT RIGHT! And that is the crack we need. once a few stations air the real facts, then it spreads like wildfire and the msm has to at least tactily acknowledge it, or find a way to spin it to their advantage.

That was how Katrina worked. This is an orchestrated version of that. and if I’m correct, this is the first of MANY such opportunities.

Also, we have made it clear to the rethugs that:

a) our parliamentarians are better than theirs.
b) we WILL go to the mat with them (the Sergeant at Arms was authorized to go get members for a quorum and rethugs scurried into the chamber like cockroaches (apologies to cockroaches).
c) they think they have power, but it is only power to obstruct. once that is clear to the american people, the whole debate changes.

masterful political work. I am once again proud to be a Democrat.

Hear, Hear!

By: estiv

estiv — Wed, 18 Jul 2007 15:38:25 +0000

I’ve said it in comments here before, and I’ll say it again: the biggest lie that Republicans have told is that they believe in personal responsibility. It’s a subtle point, but in fact, as Scarecrow suggests in this post, it ties together every single one of Bush’s failures of the last six years.

By: brendan

brendan — Wed, 18 Jul 2007 15:19:04 +0000

Scarecrow:

I had a long dispute with CHS and some others the other day about Afghanistan. I objected to the notion that we could ever “finish the job” once the “job” no longer was simply capturing or killing OBL, and I repeatedly made the point that I think the real reason we’re there at this point is that it presents another front against Iran. I thought the exhortations to use our supposed military might were cavalier, naive about the prospect of winning, and pretty immmoral given the amount of ordnance we’d have to drop.

It seems the notion that “more boots on the ground” would fix things is predicated on the idea that there is a static level of resistance to us there, not that resistance might wax or wane in relation to our own strength and come not only from indigenous Afghans, but various patrons abroad. For example, Pakistan has a vital interest in “strategic depth” in Afghanistan and is a patron of the Taliban. China and Russia wish us to fail, bloodily. Perhaps most importantly, Iran must see us fail for the vital reason that we’re using Afghanistan as a platform for terrorist attacks inside Iran, something you don’t even mention.

By: Chris Kelly

Chris Kelly — Wed, 18 Jul 2007 15:02:08 +0000

Comcast here in DC usually shows CSPAN on channel 78 and CSPAN2 (senate) on 79 – BUT LAST NITE IT WAS ALL BASEBALL on 79, they did not show the Senate show at all until early this a.m. Weird.

By: Adie

Adie — Wed, 18 Jul 2007 14:28:18 +0000

Good Morning Scarecrow.

Thank you for your wonderful posts. I’m playing catchup re: the filigrie upstairs, but will return to read your whole screed shortly, especially quickly if Inhofe stays on his feet. ;->

By: Boston1775

Boston1775 — Wed, 18 Jul 2007 14:13:13 +0000

BEG @ 181

nomolos @ 122

Many phone calls and emails to Sens and Reps seem to work. Maybe a concerted effort to the NYT might do the same?

Oh my! I don’t know if this has been picked up on yet (I can NOT keep up with y’all) but this sounds like a good idea as well — pressuring the newspapers to cover things properly…!

In any case, thanks for all the commentary on the filibuster. I was not able to watch the proceedings (is CPAN closed captioned?) but it’s good to know what has been happening (and infuriating to see the news outlets tip toeing around things)…

Rayne made the point yesterday, and I am in complete agreement, that when we assemble it has to be at the site of news organizations and their owners (GE and Disney etc.). It will hold the press accountable for getting the message from the 70% of Americans that they haven’t clearly covered yet.