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		<title>By: phred</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/07/18/of-winos-and-republican-lockstep-support-for-failure/#comment-832282</link>
		<dc:creator>phred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jul 2007 17:01:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-832225&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;timmm @ 329&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-832106&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;phred @ 317&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;So this is what Congress will do for us instead of impeachment?  Vote after vote going down for lack of cloture.  And lets just say - very hypothetically - that they actually, you know, get to vote.  Bush whips out the veto pen and poof — nothing accomplished AGAIN!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Dems fail to make convincing arguments and propell debate forward. Their message was “Let us vote!” Big deal. How about anticipating the September assessment and hammering Repubs on the lack of political progress, and how you can have all the surge you want but until political strategies are coupled with the military planm there will be no end to the war. Dems needed to show how the Levin-Reid admendment pushes the political process forward. I thought Cantwell (D) did well in talking about the privatization of oil in Iraq; but other Dems fell short. In short, Reid is a poor leader.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Yep.  Very poor indeed.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-832225"><em>timmm @ 329</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-832106"><em>phred @ 317</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>So this is what Congress will do for us instead of impeachment?  Vote after vote going down for lack of cloture.  And lets just say &#8211; very hypothetically &#8211; that they actually, you know, get to vote.  Bush whips out the veto pen and poof — nothing accomplished AGAIN!</p>
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<p>Dems fail to make convincing arguments and propell debate forward. Their message was “Let us vote!” Big deal. How about anticipating the September assessment and hammering Repubs on the lack of political progress, and how you can have all the surge you want but until political strategies are coupled with the military planm there will be no end to the war. Dems needed to show how the Levin-Reid admendment pushes the political process forward. I thought Cantwell (D) did well in talking about the privatization of oil in Iraq; but other Dems fell short. In short, Reid is a poor leader.</p>
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<p>Yep.  Very poor indeed.</p>
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		<title>By: timmm</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/07/18/of-winos-and-republican-lockstep-support-for-failure/#comment-832225</link>
		<dc:creator>timmm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jul 2007 16:40:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-832106&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;phred @ 317&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;So this is what Congress will do for us instead of impeachment?  Vote after vote going down for lack of cloture.  And lets just say - very hypothetically - that they actually, you know, get to vote.  Bush whips out the veto pen and poof — nothing accomplished AGAIN!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Dems fail to make convincing arguments and propell debate forward. Their message was “Let us vote!” Big deal. How about anticipating the September assessment and hammering Repubs on the lack of political progress, and how you can have all the surge you want but until political strategies are coupled with the military planm there will be no end to the war. Dems needed to show how the Levin-Reid admendment pushes the political process forward. I thought Cantwell (D) did well in talking about the privatization of oil in Iraq; but other Dems fell short. In short, Reid is a poor leader.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-832106"><em>phred @ 317</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>So this is what Congress will do for us instead of impeachment?  Vote after vote going down for lack of cloture.  And lets just say &#8211; very hypothetically &#8211; that they actually, you know, get to vote.  Bush whips out the veto pen and poof — nothing accomplished AGAIN!</p>
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<p>Dems fail to make convincing arguments and propell debate forward. Their message was “Let us vote!” Big deal. How about anticipating the September assessment and hammering Repubs on the lack of political progress, and how you can have all the surge you want but until political strategies are coupled with the military planm there will be no end to the war. Dems needed to show how the Levin-Reid admendment pushes the political process forward. I thought Cantwell (D) did well in talking about the privatization of oil in Iraq; but other Dems fell short. In short, Reid is a poor leader.</p>
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		<title>By: timmm</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/07/18/of-winos-and-republican-lockstep-support-for-failure/#comment-832206</link>
		<dc:creator>timmm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jul 2007 16:38:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-832110&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;punaise @ 319&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-832094&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Gnome de Plume @ 314&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;(I really need to push back from this addictive website.  Anybody got any 12 step advice?)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;listen to &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GyOgVFDocs&quot;&gt;this&lt;/a&gt; song four times in a row.  :~)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-832106&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;phred @ 317&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;So this is what Congress will do for us instead of impeachment?  Vote after vote going down for lack of cloture.  And lets just say - very hypothetically - that they actually, you know, get to vote.  Bush whips out the veto pen and poof — nothing accomplished AGAIN!&lt;br /&gt;
blockquote&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-832106&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;phred @ 317&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;So this is what Congress will do for us instead of impeachment?  Vote after vote going down for lack of cloture.  And lets just say - very hypothetically - that they actually, you know, get to vote.  Bush whips out the veto pen and poof — nothing accomplished AGAIN!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Dems fail to make convincing arguments and propell debate forward.  Their message was “Let us vote!”  Big deal.  How about anticipating the September assessment and hammering Repubs on the lack of political progress, and how you can have all the surge you want but until political strategies are coupled with the military planm there will be no end to the war.  Dems needed to show how the Levin-Reed admendment pushes the political process forward.  I thought Cantwell (D) did well in talking about the privatization of oil in Iraq; but other Dems fell short.  In short, Reed is a poor leader.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-832110"><em>punaise @ 319</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-832094"><em>Gnome de Plume @ 314</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>(I really need to push back from this addictive website.  Anybody got any 12 step advice?)</p>
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<p>listen to <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GyOgVFDocs">this</a> song four times in a row.  :~)</p>
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<p><a href="#comment-832106"><em>phred @ 317</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>So this is what Congress will do for us instead of impeachment?  Vote after vote going down for lack of cloture.  And lets just say &#8211; very hypothetically &#8211; that they actually, you know, get to vote.  Bush whips out the veto pen and poof — nothing accomplished AGAIN!<br />
blockquote&gt;<a href="#comment-832106"><em>phred @ 317</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>So this is what Congress will do for us instead of impeachment?  Vote after vote going down for lack of cloture.  And lets just say &#8211; very hypothetically &#8211; that they actually, you know, get to vote.  Bush whips out the veto pen and poof — nothing accomplished AGAIN!</p>
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<p>Dems fail to make convincing arguments and propell debate forward.  Their message was “Let us vote!”  Big deal.  How about anticipating the September assessment and hammering Repubs on the lack of political progress, and how you can have all the surge you want but until political strategies are coupled with the military planm there will be no end to the war.  Dems needed to show how the Levin-Reed admendment pushes the political process forward.  I thought Cantwell (D) did well in talking about the privatization of oil in Iraq; but other Dems fell short.  In short, Reed is a poor leader.</p>
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		<title>By: grape_crush</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/07/18/of-winos-and-republican-lockstep-support-for-failure/#comment-832164</link>
		<dc:creator>grape_crush</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jul 2007 16:28:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-832083&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;maunga @ 308&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;grape crush # 279&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;…..but H Clinton will not be President, GC.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I &lt;em&gt;did&lt;/em&gt; say ‘decent shot’, maunga, not ’shoe-in’… :)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Regardless of her chances at the presidency, HRC is still a US Senator, and at least nominally on the good and right side of the debate. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;lol - Specter whining about getting smacked down by Harry Reid…&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-832083"><em>maunga @ 308</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>grape crush # 279</p>
<p>…..but H Clinton will not be President, GC.</p>
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<p>I <em>did</em> say ‘decent shot’, maunga, not ’shoe-in’… :)</p>
<p>Regardless of her chances at the presidency, HRC is still a US Senator, and at least nominally on the good and right side of the debate. </p>
<p>lol &#8211; Specter whining about getting smacked down by Harry Reid…</p>
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		<title>By: Gnome de Plume</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/07/18/of-winos-and-republican-lockstep-support-for-failure/#comment-832141</link>
		<dc:creator>Gnome de Plume</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jul 2007 16:23:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-832110&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;punaise @ 319&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-832094&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Gnome de Plume @ 314&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;(I really need to push back from this addictive website.  Anybody got any 12 step advice?)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;listen to &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GyOgVFDocs&quot;&gt;this&lt;/a&gt; song four times in a row.  :~)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt; Thanks Pun-Ace.  That did it.  Now I am humming a melodic tune instead . . .&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-832110"><em>punaise @ 319</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-832094"><em>Gnome de Plume @ 314</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>(I really need to push back from this addictive website.  Anybody got any 12 step advice?)</p>
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<p>listen to <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GyOgVFDocs">this</a> song four times in a row.  :~)</p>
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<p> Thanks Pun-Ace.  That did it.  Now I am humming a melodic tune instead . . .</p>
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		<title>By: *xyz</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/07/18/of-winos-and-republican-lockstep-support-for-failure/#comment-832124</link>
		<dc:creator>*xyz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jul 2007 16:19:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-832049&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Bluetoe @ 272&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Joe Klein is so entrenched with the Beltway elites and their deep desire to preserve the status quo no one should be surprised at his assinine comments.  What surprising is that anyone takes him seriously.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Joe Klein should stick to &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.golfdigest.com/golfdigestindex/gdindexspring.html&quot;&gt;writing articles for Golf Digest&lt;/a&gt;. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It is all about the country club mentality for Joe.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-832049"><em>Bluetoe @ 272</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Joe Klein is so entrenched with the Beltway elites and their deep desire to preserve the status quo no one should be surprised at his assinine comments.  What surprising is that anyone takes him seriously.</p>
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<p>Joe Klein should stick to <a href="http://www.golfdigest.com/golfdigestindex/gdindexspring.html">writing articles for Golf Digest</a>. </p>
<p>It is all about the country club mentality for Joe.</p>
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		<title>By: Adie</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/07/18/of-winos-and-republican-lockstep-support-for-failure/#comment-832120</link>
		<dc:creator>Adie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jul 2007 16:17:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;OMG Byrd up on his feet giving homeland security lecture.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;He must be made of titanium!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Go Blue!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OMG Byrd up on his feet giving homeland security lecture.</p>
<p>He must be made of titanium!</p>
<p>Go Blue!</p>
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		<title>By: Christy Hardin Smith</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/07/18/of-winos-and-republican-lockstep-support-for-failure/#comment-832119</link>
		<dc:creator>Christy Hardin Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jul 2007 16:17:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Could everyone please move to the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/07/18/grand-obstruction-party-continues-to-stand-for-failed-status-quo/&quot;&gt;new thread&lt;/a&gt; for the sake of the servers.  Thanks.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Could everyone please move to the <a href="http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/07/18/grand-obstruction-party-continues-to-stand-for-failed-status-quo/">new thread</a> for the sake of the servers.  Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank33</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/07/18/of-winos-and-republican-lockstep-support-for-failure/#comment-832118</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank33</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jul 2007 16:17:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thank you, United State Senate. A majority of Senators voted to end the genocide planned and executed by the neo-conservatives. John McCain says it will change nothing. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9yLnYO9gPMc&quot;&gt;But if it makes you happy&lt;/a&gt; it cannot be that bad.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you, United State Senate. A majority of Senators voted to end the genocide planned and executed by the neo-conservatives. John McCain says it will change nothing. <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9yLnYO9gPMc">But if it makes you happy</a> it cannot be that bad.</p>
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		<title>By: GrandmaJ</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/07/18/of-winos-and-republican-lockstep-support-for-failure/#comment-832112</link>
		<dc:creator>GrandmaJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jul 2007 16:15:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;So, let me get this straight.  After all night, Reid pulls the motion?  WHY?????&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I don’t care what the procedural excuse for this is, but the MSM and the republicans will claim victory.  I am wondering if Reid did this to quiet us rabble out here in reality based American.  Gave us something to cheer about for a night anyway.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, let me get this straight.  After all night, Reid pulls the motion?  WHY?????</p>
<p>I don’t care what the procedural excuse for this is, but the MSM and the republicans will claim victory.  I am wondering if Reid did this to quiet us rabble out here in reality based American.  Gave us something to cheer about for a night anyway.</p>
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