Zed?

dammit dos

Must be my computer, I refreshed 6 times from 1 o’clock and finally got the new thread at 1;02.
Weird.

Hugs to Jane.

OT,

I called Domenici’s office today and told that talk is cheap, action is required, and her boss was going to make a bunch of New Mexicans (like me) unhappy by trying to have his view on the occupation both ways.

She sighed and asked for my zip code…

BC

Conrad doesn’t have the goods on Bush and Cheney like Scooter does, see ya.

So Reid pulled the bill, instead of allowing the filibuster to continue!!!

Vote Republican. The family that prays together, stays together.

greetings and salutations, Jane. So nice to see you twice and in the comments. You must be feeling better. Just stay out of this heat! Quite a night, last night. Gonna take me all evening just to read the comments. I’m thinking it’s a record for Late Night. All the best.

Rudy, Mitt and Fred. What a lineup.

CTuttle @ 7

So Reid pulled the bill, instead of allowing the filibuster to continue!!!

He pulled it to be able to bring it back,

AND

He’s holding up the entire Defense bill for FY ‘08 until the GOP stops the filibuster.

I’m wondering how many perjury and OOJ convictions will be overturned because the Bushes now evidently believe that this is no longer a crime.

Ooops. I forgot. The only ones who get to claim that right are Scooter Libby and his counsel, right?

-S

Oklahoma kiddo @ 10

Rudy, Mitt and Fred. What a lineup.

The new improved 3 Stooges?

If you are calling your senator, and he or she is on the Energy and Natural Resources Committee, please urge support for S.1634 while you are on the line:

Chairman Jeff Bingaman (D-NM), Daniel K. Akaka (D-HI), Byron L. Dorgan (D-ND), Ron Wyden (D-OR), Tim Johnson (D-SD), Mary L. Landrieu (D-LA), Maria Cantwell (D-WA), Ken Salazar (D-CO), Robert Menendez (D-NJ), Blanche Lincoln (D-AR), Bernard Sanders (D-VT), Jon Tester (D-MT), Pete V. Domenici (R-NM), Larry E. Craig (R-ID), Lisa Murkowski (R-AK), Richard Burr (R-NC), Jim DeMint (R-SC), Bob Corker (R-TN), Jeff Sessions (R-AL), Jim Bunning (R-KY), Gordon Smith (R-OR), Mel Martinez (R-FL), John Barrasso (R-WY)

S.1634 will help end the exploitation Tom DeLay fostered in the Marianas. There will be a hearing tomorrow morning to discuss this bill.

this is epu’d from downstairs

the most frightening developement to date, bar none, the president has decread that his administration can unilaterally freeze the assets of anyone they choose simply by “claiming” they are undermining the “strategy” in Iraq…merely by claiming it, no recourse, now warning, you become a non person

to wit;

Siun @ 87

Perris et al – this is the Executive Order signed by Bush that Hartman was talking about – it is not reassuring:

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news…..717-3.html

By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, including the International Emergency Economic Powers Act, as amended (50 U.S.C. 1701 et seq.)(IEEPA), the National Emergencies Act (50 U.S.C. 1601 et seq.)(NEA), and section 301 of title 3, United States Code,

I, GEORGE W. BUSH, President of the United States of America, find that, due to the unusual and extraordinary threat to the national security and foreign policy of the United States posed by acts of violence threatening the peace and stability of Iraq and undermining efforts to promote economic reconstruction and political reform in Iraq and to provide humanitarian assistance to the Iraqi people, it is in the interests of the United States to take additional steps with respect to the national emergency declared in Executive Order 13303 of May 22, 2003, and expanded in Executive Order 13315 of August 28, 2003, and relied upon for additional steps taken in Executive Order 13350 of July 29, 2004, and Executive Order 13364 of November 29, 2004. I hereby order:

Section 1. (a) Except to the extent provided in section 203(b)(1), (3), and (4) of IEEPA (50 U.S.C. 1702(b)(1), (3), and (4)), or in regulations, orders, directives, or licenses that may be issued pursuant to this order, and notwithstanding any contract entered into or any license or permit granted prior to the date of this order, all property and interests in property of the following persons, that are in the United States, that hereafter come within the United States, or that are or hereafter come within the possession or control of United States persons, are blocked and may not be transferred, paid, exported,

withdrawn, or otherwise dealt in: any person determined by the Secretary of the Treasury, in consultation with the Secretary of State and the Secretary of Defense,

(i) to have committed, or to pose a significant risk of committing, an act or acts of violence that have the purpose or effect of:

(A) threatening the peace or stability of Iraq or the Government of Iraq; or

(B) undermining efforts to promote economic reconstruction and political reform in Iraq or to provide humanitarian assistance to the Iraqi people;

(ii) to have materially assisted, sponsored, or provided financial, material, logistical, or technical support for, or goods or services in support of, such an act or acts of violence or any person whose property and interests in property are blocked pursuant to this order; or

(iii) to be owned or controlled by, or to have acted or purported to act for or on behalf of, directly or indirectly, any person whose property and interests in property are blocked pursuant to this order.

(b) The prohibitions in subsection (a) of this section include, but are not limited to, (i) the making of any contribution or provision of funds, goods, or services by, to, or for the benefit of any person whose property and interests in property are blocked pursuant to this order, and (ii) the

receipt of any contribution or provision of funds, goods, or services from any such person.

Sec. 2. (a) Any transaction by a United States person or within the United States that evades or avoids, has the purpose

of evading or avoiding, or attempts to violate any of the prohibitions set forth in this order is prohibited.

(b) Any conspiracy formed to violate any of the prohibitions set forth in this order is prohibited.

Sec. 3. For purposes of this order:

(a) the term “person” means an individual or entity;

(b) the term “entity” means a partnership, association, trust, joint venture, corporation, group, subgroup, or other organization; and

(c) the term “United States person” means any United States citizen, permanent resident alien, entity organized under the laws of the United States or any jurisdiction within the United States (including foreign branches), or any person in the United States.

Sec. 4. I hereby determine that the making of donations of the type specified in section 203(b)(2) of IEEPA (50 U.S.C. 1702(b)(2)) by, to, or for the benefit of, any person whose property and interests in property are blocked pursuant to this order would seriously impair my ability to deal with the national emergency declared in Executive Order 13303 and expanded in Executive Order 13315, and I hereby prohibit such donations as provided by section 1 of this order.

Sec. 5. For those persons whose property and interests in property are blocked pursuant to this order who might have a constitutional presence in the United States, I find that, because of the ability to transfer funds or other assets instantaneously, prior notice to such persons of measures to be taken pursuant to this order would render these measures ineffectual. I therefore determine that for these measures to be effective in addressing the national emergency declared in Executive Order 13303 and expanded in Executive Order 13315, there need be no prior notice of a listing or determination made pursuant to section 1(a) of this order.

this is the most troubling developement I can imagine, this IS hitlerism and it’s most frightening because the fascists in office will let him get away with this

I hope we can make this the center of very near in the future discussion and I hope we get this all over the internet so that corporate media HAS to cover it.

an alarm is raised boys and girls, if

Phoenix Woman @ 11

CTuttle @ 7

So Reid pulled the bill, instead of allowing the filibuster to continue!!!

He pulled it to be able to bring it back,

AND

He’s holding up the entire Defense bill for FY ‘08 until the GOP stops the filibuster.

Spenser Ackerman now says the DOD will skip the auth bill and only insist on the apropriations bill THIS time. TPM or TPMCafe will have a major writeup on it soon, they say…

Phoenix Woman @ 11

CTuttle @ 7

So Reid pulled the bill, instead of allowing the filibuster to continue!!!

He pulled it to be able to bring it back,

AND

He’s holding up the entire Defense bill for FY ‘08 until the GOP stops the filibuster.

and he’s gonna need to do the same for the Defense Approps bill if this fails (e.g., if they cave or Bush vetoes). The Defense Dept. can live without a new Authorization bill, but they can’t live without appropriations. Remember Newt’s shutdown (h/t to Brisingamen)?

LS-last thread-

More Hatch Act evidence:

http://oversight.house.gov/story.asp?ID=1414

I am wondering where the god-awful places were…could be a lot less republican after this. Rove is in the bullseye on this one!

http://72.14.253.104/search?q=…..node/29245 libby commutation fitzgerald precedent walton&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=10&gl=us&client=firefox-a

Read this (see link above) Anon post on CREW:
“Commutation is a Power for Governors Not Presidents
Submitted by Anonymous on 2 July 2007 – 7:43pm.
No Federal Caselaw supports this illegal assertion of non-delegated Judicial Power. “

Would somebody check the validity of this assertion?….

Phoenix Woman @ 11

CTuttle @ 7

So Reid pulled the bill, instead of allowing the filibuster to continue!!!

He pulled it to be able to bring it back,

AND

He’s holding up the entire Defense bill for FY ‘08 until the GOP stops the filibuster.

Right On!!! Keep cramming it down their throats!!!

TiredFed @ 17

Phoenix Woman @ 11

He pulled it to be able to bring it back,

AND

He’s holding up the entire Defense bill for FY ‘08 until the GOP stops the filibuster.

and he’s gonna need to do the same for the Defense Approps bill if this fails (e.g., if they cave or Bush vetoes). The Defense Dept. can live without a new Authorization bill, but they can’t live without appropriations. Remember Newt’s shutdown (h/t to Brisingamen)?

Talk about a Precipitous Withdrawal then!!! ;-)

Cooper must be writing some snark. He can’t be serious.

TiredFed @ 17

Phoenix Woman @ 11

He pulled it to be able to bring it back,

AND

He’s holding up the entire Defense bill for FY ‘08 until the GOP stops the filibuster.

and he’s gonna need to do the same for the Defense Approps bill if this fails (e.g., if they cave or Bush vetoes). The Defense Dept. can live without a new Authorization bill, but they can’t live without appropriations. Remember Newt’s shutdown (h/t to Brisingamen)?

Which I guess means that Scarlet P the Freeway Blogger needs to change her sign to
“Speaker Pelosi Please DO YOUR JOB”
Since appropriations bills must originate in the House? Or could it still somehow be held up in the Senate? (and why not both houses? No excuses! UNLESS Pelosi would rather spend the time on IMPEACHMENT hearings instead.)

Funnydiva
One of The American People
“Just tell me where to apply pressure next, I’m there!”

Funny thing that Matt Cooper joined the FDL face book group. What is that about? Matt, are you here?

Joe Klein’s conscience @ 22

Cooper must be writing some snark. He can’t be serious.

reads like snark to me

Joe Klein’s conscience @ 22

Cooper must be writing some snark. He can’t be serious.

I too sense a bit of sarcasm in the featured paragraph. But I am befuddled. IIRC, Cooper was not particularly forthcoming in his testimony re: Scooter’s trial.

What is with CNN? Why are they only showing snippets of the Repugs, I thought some of the Dems were much more newsworthy, i.e. Hillary gave a beautiful presentation and Kerry repudiated each and every Repug Talking Point, point by pathetic point!!!

Some may chide me for saying this. And at the end of the day I may be proved wrong. It won’t be the first, nor the last time I’ve not been right about some thing or another… ‘I stand behind the Speaker’.

http://www.signonsandiego.com/…..idavit.pdf

Footnote at the bottom of page 49, of the Cunningham FBI document:

“The Members of Congress listed by Wade are: Congressmen Randy Cunningham, Tom
DeLay, Denny Hastert, Duncan Hunter, Lewis, Allan Mollohan, John Murtha, David Weldon and Bill
Young, and Senators Robert Byrd, Larry Craig, Robert Dole; Orin Hatch, Daniel Inouye, Trent Lott, Jay Rockefeller and Richard Shelby.”

CTuttle @ 27

What is with CNN? Why are they only showing snippets of the Repugs, I thought some of the Dems were much more newsworthy, i.e. Hillary gave a beautiful presentation and Kerry repudiated each and every Repug Talking Point, point by pathetic point!!!

Do you have to ask why?

Jane,
So good to see you back and spunky. Take care and protect our National Treasure.

Snow recants his remarks about Iraqi parliament taking August off.

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/n…..ut_ira.php

CTuttle @ 27

What is with CNN? Why are they only showing snippets of the Repugs, I thought some of the Dems were much more newsworthy, i.e. Hillary gave a beautiful presentation and Kerry repudiated each and every Repug Talking Point, point by pathetic point!!!

CNN is in a ratings war with Fox. They are trying to out Fox Fox. (that is a pun but it’s not intentional. I grew up on CNN. I feel like the Statue Of Liberty has been replaced with a pantyless Paris Hilton.)

JF @ 30

CTuttle @ 27

What is with CNN? Why are they only showing snippets of the Repugs, I thought some of the Dems were much more newsworthy, i.e. Hillary gave a beautiful presentation and Kerry repudiated each and every Repug Talking Point, point by pathetic point!!!

Do you have to ask why?

Doh!!! My Bad!!! ;-)

LS @ 29

http://www.signonsandiego.com/…..idavit.pdf

Footnote at the bottom of page 49, of the Cunningham FBI document:

“The Members of Congress listed by Wade are: Congressmen Randy Cunningham, Tom
DeLay, Denny Hastert, Duncan Hunter, Lewis, Allan Mollohan, John Murtha, David Weldon and Bill
Young, and Senators Robert Byrd, Larry Craig, Robert Dole; Orin Hatch, Daniel Inouye, Trent Lott, Jay Rockefeller and Richard Shelby.”

Why are all the Democrats West Virginians?

althespook @ 33

CTuttle @ 27

What is with CNN? Why are they only showing snippets of the Repugs, I thought some of the Dems were much more newsworthy, i.e. Hillary gave a beautiful presentation and Kerry repudiated each and every Repug Talking Point, point by pathetic point!!!

CNN is in a ratings war with Fox. They are trying to out Fox Fox. (that is a pun but it’s not intentional. I grew up on CNN. I feel like the Statue Of Liberty has been replaced with a pantyless Paris Hilton.)

Ya got any Pixs??? 8-)

CTuttle @ 27

What is with CNN? Why are they only showing snippets of the Repugs, I thought some of the Dems were much more newsworthy, i.e. Hillary gave a beautiful presentation and Kerry repudiated each and every Repug Talking Point, point by pathetic point!!!

I missed Hillary and Kerry. Anybody know where they are posted?

Did ya hear about the convicted sexual predator who a judge let out of jail time b/c he was 5′1″ and his height would put him in danger in prison? [paraphrased]

No link: via cnn?msnbc tv.

Slippery slope, indeed. Any excuse’ll do ya. ;-(

OT, or rather on EPU….perris @ 15

there were some disturbing rumors along these lines back in 2006

Point #3 Bank Of America and Compass Bank managers (probably all other U.S. banks too) have been instructing their employees in the last few weeks on how to respond to customer demands in the event of a collapse of the U.S. economy – specifically telling the employees that only agents from the Department Of Homeland Security will have authority to decide what belongings customers may have from their safe deposit boxes – and that precious metals and other valuables will not be released to U.S. citizens. The bank employees have been strictly prohibited from revealing the banks’ new “guidelines” to anyone. (however, employees have been talking to friends and family)

The next time you visit your bank, ask them about it – then ask yourself, why is this information being kept secret from customers and the public – what’s really going on?

from http://bellaciao.org/en/articl…..ticle=9995

sorry, the site is a little on the paranoid side for polite society, but if anyone has relatives with banking careers maybe you could ask them discreetly about this?

We lost CNN as a reliable news source the day they merged with AOL/Time Warner. This was part of a larger plan to corporatize our national news delivery conduits and implement national thought control.

Limit what people see/hear, limit what people think.

Loo Hoo. @ 37

CTuttle @ 27

What is with CNN? Why are they only showing snippets of the Repugs, I thought some of the Dems were much more newsworthy, i.e. Hillary gave a beautiful presentation and Kerry repudiated each and every Repug Talking Point, point by pathetic point!!!

I missed Hillary and Kerry. Anybody know where they are posted?

I watched them live! I’m not sure if C-span has them archived or not!

Phoenix Woman @ 11

CTuttle @ 7

So Reid pulled the bill, instead of allowing the filibuster to continue!!!

He pulled it to be able to bring it back,

AND

He’s holding up the entire Defense bill for FY ‘08 until the GOP stops the filibuster.

Good for him

TiredFed @ 17

and he’s gonna need to do the same for the Defense Approps bill if this fails (e.g., if they cave or Bush vetoes). The Defense Dept. can live without a new Authorization bill, but they can’t live without appropriations. Remember Newt’s shutdown (h/t to Brisingamen)?

Thanks. As a Federal employee, I’m not likely to forget dear Newt’s shutdown. I had just about decided to finish filing for unemployment when it ended.

My Mom was living in Northern Virginia at the time, and she says it totally wrecked the Christmas shopping season for retailers around the District, because Federal employees didn’t know whether or when they’d be paid.

Are they really stupid enough to do it again?

OT about Senate mail: I got a recorded message at a Senator’s office just now saying it was best to send a fax because of the Senate mail delay. What’s that about?

randiego @ 25

Joe Klein’s conscience @ 22

Cooper must be writing some snark. He can’t be serious.

reads like snark to me

It’s completely obvious that Cooper’s post is Snark with a capital S. Go Matt! Welcome to the Bright side of the Force!

Brisingamen @ 42

TiredFed @ 17

and he’s gonna need to do the same for the Defense Approps bill if this fails (e.g., if they cave or Bush vetoes). The Defense Dept. can live without a new Authorization bill, but they can’t live without appropriations. Remember Newt’s shutdown (h/t to Brisingamen)?

Thanks. As a Federal employee, I’m not likely to forget dear Newt’s shutdown. I had just about decided to finish filing for unemployment when it ended.

My Mom was living in Northern Virginia at the time, and she says it totally wrecked the Christmas shopping season for retailers around the District, because Federal employees didn’t know whether or when they’d be paid.

Are they really stupid enough to do it again?

yes

Question about the powers of the President to seize assets. Are these new powers or ones appropriated directly after September 11th?

Same question for the policy of the banks at 39. Is this new news?

Liberal Heart @ 43

OT about Senate mail: I got a recorded message at a Senator’s office just now saying it was best to send a fax because of the Senate mail delay. What’s that about?

Anthrax screening.
Postcards aren’t delayed and fax is even faster(bypasses the USPS).

Loo Hoo. @ 18

LS-last thread-

More Hatch Act evidence:

http://oversight.house.gov/story.asp?ID=1414

I am wondering where the god-awful places were…could be a lot less republican after this. Rove is in the bullseye on this one!

I think I remember Columbus, OH being mentioned. I’d like to read that list of places, too! ;^}

Loo Hoo. @ 37

CTuttle @ 27

What is with CNN? Why are they only showing snippets of the Repugs, I thought some of the Dems were much more newsworthy, i.e. Hillary gave a beautiful presentation and Kerry repudiated each and every Repug Talking Point, point by pathetic point!!!

I missed Hillary and Kerry. Anybody know where they are posted?

Watch Hillary here:
http://clinton.senate.gov/news…..&&

Liberal Heart @ 43

OT about Senate mail: I got a recorded message at a Senator’s office just now saying it was best to send a fax because of the Senate mail delay. What’s that about?

has to do with Anthrax mailed to Senate offices. Now all Congressional mail goes through an elaborate security process. best to fax if you need to send h/c.

Funnydiva2002 @ 47

Liberal Heart @ 43

OT about Senate mail: I got a recorded message at a Senator’s office just now saying it was best to send a fax because of the Senate mail delay. What’s that about?

Anthrax screening.
Postcards aren’t delayed and fax is even faster(bypasses the USPS).

you can also hand-deliver (I have).

Hi Jane! Hope you’re feeling great.

Liberal Heart @ 43

OT about Senate mail: I got a recorded message at a Senator’s office just now saying it was best to send a fax because of the Senate mail delay. What’s that about?

Anthrax. After the Disappeared Anthrax Attack of 2001 (you know, the terrorist attack that came after 9/11) they delay all government mail so it can be irradiated before being delivered.

But the anthrax attack never happened, just ask any wingnut. And it was just to kill Democrats anyway.

oh, and I’m pretty sure Matt Cooper’s little note is snark.

Matt Cooper’s estimation of Black’s biography of FDR is way, way off mark, IMHO. It sucks! But then, I don’t like ANY of the FDR bios – they all suck, including Schlesinger’s so-called “magisterial three-volume epic.”

puppethead @ 53

Liberal Heart @ 43

OT about Senate mail: I got a recorded message at a Senator’s office just now saying it was best to send a fax because of the Senate mail delay. What’s that about?

Anthrax. After the Disappeared Anthrax Attack of 2001 (you know, the terrorist attack that came after 9/11) they delay all government mail so it can be irradiated before being delivered.

But the anthrax attack never happened, just ask any wingnut. And it was just to kill Democrats anyway.

You mean the anthrax attack that came just in time for the release of Judith Miller’s book on bio-weapons?

Liberal Heart @ 56

You mean the anthrax attack that came just in time for the release of Judith Miller’s book on bio-weapons?

I like to think of it as PNAC’s backup Pearl Harbor event. But they didn’t need it because 9/11 was much bigger than anticipated. So the anthrax became the attack that is not mentioned.

But kudos to Judith Miller for using her inside connections for personal profit, she’s such an enterprising, honest broker. *cough*

Maybe Bush could leave the fine in place. I’m sure he’ll have as much trouble coming up with the money as Libby did.

I think Mr. Cooper could be a Firedog.

Liberal Heart @ 57

You mean the anthrax attack that came just in time for the release of Judith Miller’s book on bio-weapons? hasty passage of the totally unread Patriot Act…

I don’t believe any 9/11 theories. All I believe is that we don’t know what happened during those weeks.

Liberal Heart @ 50

Loo Hoo. @ 37

I missed Hillary and Kerry. Anybody know where they are posted?

Watch Hillary here:
http://clinton.senate.gov/news…..&&

I saw this. And I am not unpleased.

puppethead @ 54

Liberal Heart @ 43

OT about Senate mail: I got a recorded message at a Senator’s office just now saying it was best to send a fax because of the Senate mail delay. What’s that about?

Anthrax. After the Disappeared Anthrax Attack of 2001 (you know, the terrorist attack that came after 9/11) they delay all government mail so it can be irradiated before being delivered.

But the anthrax attack never happened, just ask any wingnut. And it was just to kill Democrats anyway.

And African-American postal workers…(two of whom did die, by the way)

Definite Cooper snark.

Matt’s also a stand-up comic in his spare time.

Thanks, Liberal Heart, for the Clinton link. I so wish she would get together with Mr. Pelosi on wardrobe.

OT
But It was Military grade Antrhax. That doesn’t come from cave folk people.

Ed*ard Teller @ 55

Matt Cooper’s estimation of Black’s biography of FDR is way, way off mark, IMHO. It sucks! But then, I don’t like ANY of the FDR bios – they all suck, including Schlesinger’s so-called “magisterial three-volume epic.”

FYI -

There is a new book, FDR, by Jean Edward Smith (Random House) mentioned in The New Yorker (July 9- 16 issue) in Briefly Noted that sounds very promising:

“The Roosevelt who emerges here – neither a stranger nor a painted icon – is flawed and magnificent”.

Have a request in for the book at my wonderful public library.

Loo Hoo. @ 18

LS-last thread-

More Hatch Act evidence:

http://oversight.house.gov/story.asp?ID=1414

I am wondering where the god-awful places were…could be a lot less republican after this. Rove is in the bullseye on this one!

ONDCP office of national drug control policy has been loyal-bushited, add Hatch Act violations, mix some reefer madness
propagnda and you’ve got you’re heckava job Walters

Perris @ 15

Bloody frightening! It is not as if I have a lot of assets, almost none, in fact, but it makes me wonder if I should shut up and just read……

“we’ll be fighting in the streets
with our children at our feet”

Posse Commute hate us.

Loo Hoo. @ 65

Thanks, Liberal Heart, for the Clinton link. I so wish she would get together with Mr. Pelosi on wardrobe.

Hillary’s duds do look a bit, shall we say, out of date.

mc @ 64

Matt’s also a stand-up comic in his spare time.

mc, mc, matt? is that you??
*g*

maunga @ 68

Perris @ 15

Bloody frightening! It is not as if I have a lot of assets, almost none, in fact, but it makes me wonder if I should shut up and just read……

I really think the target is Iraqis or Americans assisting Iraqis in stealing money from reconstruction money for use in supporting violence in Iraq, destablizing, or obstructing reconstruction. At least that is what the EO’s they refer to are about. JMHO

Perris @ 15

OMFG! So any congress critter, citizen, or reporter, or anyone can be stripped of his/her property if Bush doesn’t like them?

Am I reading this right?

And a cowinkydink that he posted this last night?

Health Care Hillary got a lot of (mostly) supportive screen time in Sicko

punaise @ 75

Health Care Hillary got a lot of (mostly) supportive screen time in Sicko

Haven’t seen it, so I don’t know. However, on the talk show circuit he doesn’t say much that she can be proud of.

do-si-do @ 74

Perris @ 15

OMFG! So any congress critter, citizen, or reporter, or anyone can be stripped of his/her property if Bush doesn’t like them?

Am I reading this right?

And a cowinkydink that he posted this last night?

More like anyone on earth.

Maureen Dowd:

While the administration lavishes billions on Pakistan, including $750 million in a risible attempt to win “hearts and minds” in tribal areas where Al Qaeda leaders are hiding and training, President Musharraf has helped create a quiet mountain retreat, a veritable terrorism spa, for Osama and Ayman al-Zawahiri to refresh themselves and get back in shape.

thanks for the max blumenthal at huffpo, whoever posted it, I love to watch young republicans defend their talking points. It reminds me of catching my boys at something when they were oh, 3 and 5, and how they would try to make it ok.

So cute (not).

Ed*ard Teller @ 60

Liberal Heart @ 57

You mean the anthrax attack that came just in time for the release of Judith Miller’s book on bio-weapons? hasty passage of the totally unread Patriot Act…

I don’t believe any 9/11 theories. All I believe is that we don’t know what happened during those weeks.

another agnostic! btw, i’m with you on this…

Not another presidential directive..

It sure seems like the road to fascism is paved with additional security measures..

Like this Presidential directive dated May 9, 2007 paving the way for Bush to be King in time of a national disaster..

scary stuff and the white house just keeps printing this stuff without questions from anyone.

As Senator Byrd said yesterday… Is anyone listening?

Eureka Springs @ 80

Not another presidential directive..

It sure seem like the road to fascism is paved with additional security measures..

Like this Presidential directive dated May 9, 2007 paving the way for Bush to be King in time of a national disaster..

scary stuff and the white house just keeps printing this stuff without questions from anyone.

As Senator Byrd said yesterday… Is anyone listening?

So true. And, after listening. Who will fight? Truly, these are fascist times; we either fight together or are carried off one by one.

LS @ 73

maunga @ 68

Perris @ 15

Bloody frightening! It is not as if I have a lot of assets, almost none, in fact, but it makes me wonder if I should shut up and just read……

I really think the target is Iraqis or Americans assisting Iraqis in stealing money from reconstruction money for use in supporting violence in Iraq, destablizing, or obstructing reconstruction. At least that is what the EO’s they refer to are about. JMHO

Of course, somebody made off with 500 million US dollars from an Iraqi bank a couple weeks ago, but that was an honest mistake, I guess.

I’m sure that economic collapse banking directive, if true, is part of the Iran War contingency planning. The moment we attack Iran, particularly if we use nukes, we will become an economic pariah to most of the world.

(Shocking, I know, to think there actually would be contingency planning from the Cheney Bush government. You’d think all they’d worry about is where to put the flowers and chocolates from the grateful Iranians as we take their oil.)

Laura Doty @ 82

Eureka Springs @ 80

Not another presidential directive..

It sure seem like the road to fascism is paved with additional security measures..

Like this Presidential directive dated May 9, 2007 paving the way for Bush to be King in time of a national disaster..

scary stuff and the white house just keeps printing this stuff without questions from anyone.

As Senator Byrd said yesterday… Is anyone listening?

So true. And, after listening. Who will fight? Truly, these are fascist times; we either fight together or are carried off one by one.

I’m freaking out almost to the point of panic attack…I was speaking to a good friend today who really didn’t understand the significance of what is transpiring. She believes it is just more bush-bashing, not that she thinks it’s a bad thing, but more like OK bad president, not budding dictator level of urgency…

Like I said, I’m freaked out.

hackworth @ 82

LS @ 73

I really think the target is Iraqis or Americans assisting Iraqis in stealing money from reconstruction money for use in supporting violence in Iraq, destablizing, or obstructing reconstruction. At least that is what the EO’s they refer to are about. JMHO

Of course, somebody made off with 500 million US dollars from an Iraqi bank a couple weeks ago, but that was an honest mistake, I guess.

Yup, and it was reported as an “inside” job. Plenty of money for politicians fearing for their lives to “cut and run”.

Can anything be done about these Executive Orders? Are they subject to review?

Laura Doty @ 82

Eureka Springs @ 80

Not another presidential directive..

It sure seem like the road to fascism is paved with additional security measures..

Like this Presidential directive dated May 9, 2007 paving the way for Bush to be King in time of a national disaster..

scary stuff and the white house just keeps printing this stuff without questions from anyone.

As Senator Byrd said yesterday… Is anyone listening?

So true. And, after listening. Who will fight? Truly, these are fascist times; we either fight together or are carried off one by one.

I’ll go looking, but does anyone know how this came about; or did it just appear?

Lea-no uh @ 86

Can anything be done about these Executive Orders? Are they subject to review?

The Supreme Court can rule on their legality. So, uh, hahaha on us.

All things are in place, if they want to fight to stay in power, but they will find a fight on their hands that they wouldn’t be able to overcome.

Sorry, I forgot to link the Presidential Directive dated May 9, 2007.

Eureka Springs @ 90

Sorry, I forgot to link the Presidential Directive dated May 9, 2007.

One exploding backpack away from it.

puppethead @ 89

Lea-no uh @ 86

Can anything be done about these Executive Orders? Are they subject to review?

The Supreme Court can rule on their legality. So, uh, hahaha on us.

This court is right -wing, but they’re not fascist. If, what I’ve seen so far gets reviewed, it will be declared unconstitutional.

Bush is such a little thug..

I believe it was old Ben Franklin that said ” we must all hang together or we shall certainly hang separately” so if the founders were willing to risk life and property to found this nation should we be any less willing to do the same to save it?

jane thanks for the matt cooper……..

for those who banged him up in the comments-

i’m glad he’s expressing himself!!!!! remember he’s from ‘the in crowd’, so’s his wife, they’re in the washington circle, so, if he’s willing to go out on a limb and knife conrad black, and at the same time the libby supporters, i’m with him….i think what he wrote took balls, they all know some of the same people….why the turnaround? if i were matt cooper, i’d be peeved at being dragged into something that led to ‘nothing’…….libby getting off……i’m sure he spent some sleepless nights having to testify, deep thinking that time of morning, maybe opened his eyes a little…….

let’s see what he writes about next…….

From The Gavel:

The Oversight Subcommittee on Government Management, Organization and Procurement is currently holding a hearing, “Federal Contracting: Do Poor Performers Keep Winning?” This hearing will review flaws in federal contracting that allow contractors with poor performance records to either renew existing contracts or receive subsequent contracts with the same or different federal agencies. Although procurement rules require that past performance of contractors be weighed in the selection process, many companies that have experienced serious, documented cost overruns and quality control problems on federal contracts continue to receive new work. During a previous full committee hearing, Comptroller General David Walker discussed contractor bonuses for “attitude and effort” as opposed to performance.

argosfalcon @ 95

I believe it was old Ben Franklin that said ” we must all hang together or we shall certainly hang separately” so if the founders were willing to risk life and property to found this nation should we be any less willing to do the same to save it?

YES!!

This court is right -wing, but they’re not fascist. If, what I’ve seen so far gets reviewed, it will be declared unconstitutional.

Thanks! Does he have to actually act on it to get it reviewed?

boxer @ 93

puppethead @ 89

The Supreme Court can rule on their legality. So, uh, hahaha on us.

This court is right -wing, but they’re not fascist. If, what I’ve seen so far gets reviewed, it will be declared unconstitutional.

How would review happen? Does someone need to get their assets confiscated and then sue? I have few enough, but this would take forever. And for the other directive (declaring the chimp king), would review have to wait for that scenario to actually happen?

puppethead @ 84

I’m sure that economic collapse banking directive, if true, is part of the Iran War contingency planning. The moment we attack Iran (especially with nukes), we will become an economic pariah to most of the world.

(Shocking, I know, to think there actually would be contingency planning from the Cheney Bush government.)

There are always contingency plans ready wherein it becomes a possibility that the unwashed hordes could disrupt the smooth operation of multinational corporations. The closing of the stock exchange after nine elva provides one example. What’s that giant sucking sound?

boxer @ 92

This court is right -wing, but they’re not fascist. If, what I’ve seen so far gets reviewed, it will be declared unconstitutional.

We hope. But the recent SCOTUS decision on abortion had little basis in law, it was decided on how icky it made the judges feel. And the rejection of the illegal wiretapping case because the plaintiffs couldn’t determine if they were victims from the secret program sure seems like a convenient intellectual loophole to punt on the ruling.

The Five Catholics on the Supreme Court do not instill confidence in me, no way. They’re inconsistent in their views and always favor corporations.

dmac @ 96

jane thanks for the matt cooper……..

for those who banged him up in the comments-

i’m glad he’s expressing himself!!!!! remember he’s from ‘the in crowd’, so’s his wife, they’re in the washington circle, so, if he’s willing to go out on a limb and knife conrad black, and at the same time the libby supporters, i’m with him….i think what he wrote took balls, they all know some of the same people….why the turnaround? if i were matt cooper, i’d be peeved at being dragged into something that led to ‘nothing’…….libby getting off……i’m sure he spent some sleepless nights having to testify, deep thinking that time of morning, maybe opened his eyes a little…….

let’s see what he writes about next…….

Maybe he’ll write about extending the some presidential courtesies to families like the Tillmans….
so much concern for Libby. Tillman, worm dirt. there ya go.

HOLY MUTHERAGOD…Judy Miller has had so much work it’s frightening.

Hardball just pulled Judy, Judy, Judy out of the mothballs to scare everybody again.

Crimeny.

Chris Matthews just told Judy Miller she is “a hero to the press” because she can “keep secrets.”

That loyal bushie, Judith Miller, is on Hardball. She is making me very afraid. Put her back in jail.

My popcorn bag just turned into my barf bag.

Of course it was snark, but you used it as an excuse to do a shill for Fitzgerald. He did not score big on Conrad Black by a long shot. He won 4 counts out of 13 and lost the biggest charge which was racketeering. You’re very selective about what you put out on your boy, just like the MSM. So don’t throw stones at them.

out of context, but the post’s title elicits this (Alanis Morisette):

And I’m here to remind you
Of the mess you left when you went away took office
It’s not fair to deny me us
Of the cross I we bare that you gave to me us
You, you, you oughta know

Aw Jane, you’re back.

Great, I pop in and find Judy Judy Judy is back.
Mebbe time for the patented Hamsher ankle bite?
I can see the snark now….

Jane Hamsher @ 103

HOLY MUTHERAGOD…Judy Miller has had so much work it’s frightening.

707! (((Jane)))

Jane Hamsher @ 103

HOLY MUTHERAGOD…Judy Miller has had so much work it’s frightening.

Truly embarrassing – and don’t cha love her prattling on and saying “stiff upper lip” – bwhahahahahahaha.

uh-oh

She can’t talk about the case????? WTF?

Jane, explicky?

Why the fuck can’t Judy Miller talk about the case? What’s Tweety on about?

Jane, explicky?Jane Hamsher @ 117

Why the fuck can’t Judy Miller talk about the case? What’s Tweety on about?

Gotcha.

Good god. Tweety sympathizes with Scooter, loves him some Judy and asks if Edwards is a “better woman president than Hillary.”

I just love the little girl voice Judy uses …

Y’all should hear Jane yelling at Tweety here in the room.

Almost woke Kobe up.

Jane Hamsher @ 116

Why the fuck can’t Judy Miller talk about the case? What’s Tweety on about?

Maybe she’s trying to protect herself or her masters from the civil case?

nochickenhawk @ 108

Of course it was snark, but you used it as an excuse to do a shill for Fitzgerald. He did not score big on Conrad Black by a long shot. He won 4 counts out of 13 and lost the biggest charge which was racketeering. You’re very selective about what you put out on your boy, just like the MSM. So don’t throw stones at them.

Hey cha-cha. How exactly is a bush-appointed republican our boy? Further – I suggest you go back and read the posts and comments archive, troll.

Loo Hoo. @ 118

Jane, explicky?

She looks so different she’s virtually unrecognizable.

Tweety ended by saying “of course you can’t talk about the case…” And Miller gratefully said “Thanks, Chris.” Like we all should know what this means.

To put it mildly, I can’t think of anything that restricts her speech any more.

Pluck Tweety.

I’m sure you firedogs have read David Corn’s rendition of Kristol’s “Bush Is A Winner”, but just in case….

Why Bush Is A Loser

By David Corn
Who knew Bill Kristol had such a flair for satire?

and I say we buy drinks for Matt Cooper if he comes to YKOS to celebrate his snark

Eureka Springs @ 81

Not another presidential directive..

It sure seems like the road to fascism is paved with additional security measures..

Like this Presidential directive dated May 9, 2007 paving the way for Bush to be King in time of a national disaster..

scary stuff and the white house just keeps printing this stuff without questions from anyone.

As Senator Byrd said yesterday… Is anyone listening?

Please note this excerpt from the directive:

(22) Revocation. Presidential Decision Directive 67 of October 21, 1998 (”Enduring Constitutional Government and Continuity of Government Operations”), including all Annexes thereto, is hereby revoked.

I think I remember a book “titled “A parliament of fools” maybe her next book could be A Congressional committee of republican idiots I love” I know the title needs work but you get the idea.

Selise at 79: Count me as agnostic too. And the plane crash in Queens in November ‘01. More????

Aw, damn, I’m missing Judy, Judy, Judy cause I don’t have TV. She prob can’t talk about the case because of the civil suit, right?

Dover Bitch @ 106

Chris Matthews just told Judy Miller she is “a hero to the press” because she can “keep secrets.”

Tweety could be a Walter Cronkite right now, but he won’t because he is a media whore.

Tweety could talk about Judy’s shorthand skills while taking dictation from Karl and Scooter. The roundy round fun the NY Times and the WH had paraphrasing each other – each citing the other as a reliable source for the same warmongering propaganda.

Judy is a disgraceful enabler who should be tried at the Hague. She is not a hero by any definition of the word.

Mathews is a pig of a human being.

Best lines in the Corn article is this one:

The Bush-Cheney years have been marked by ineptitude, miscalculation, and scandal. A successful presidency? Bush will be lucky if he gets a public elementary school in his adopted hometown of Crawford, Tex., named after him. He has placed this country in a hole. Yet Kristol, with shovel in hand, points to that hole and says, Trust me — we’re about to strike oil!

OT – Ha! CA-42 finally has a Dem candidate to run against that criminal, Gary Miller…

at the Big Orange

oh, Howie? Do we know anything about this guy?

boxer @ 93

puppethead @ 89

The Supreme Court can rule on their legality. So, uh, hahaha on us.

This court is right -wing, but they’re not fascist. If, what I’ve seen so far gets reviewed, it will be declared unconstitutional.

Congress can countermand Executive Orders: Wikipedia

(snip)

Legal conflicts

To date, U.S. courts have overturned only two executive orders: the aforementioned Truman order, and a 1996 order issued by President Clinton that attempted to prevent the U.S. government from contracting with organizations that had strike-breakers on the payroll. Congress may overturn an executive order by passing legislation in conflict with it or by refusing to approve funding to enforce it. In the former, the president retains the power to veto such a decision; however, the Congress may override a veto with a two-thirds majority to end an executive order. It has been argued that a Congressional override of an executive order is a nearly impossible event due to the super majority vote required and the fact that such a vote leaves individual lawmakers very vulnerable to political criticism.

(snip)

jim oconnor @ 131

Selise at 79: Count me as agnostic too. And the plane crash in Queens in November ‘01. More????

can’t claim agnostism on that one… i’m 100% ignorant (don’t even remember the event).

Well I’m of to watch some Sci Fxion where the forces of good almost always win, no matter how diabolical the (republican) forces of darkness are.

What just happened? Matthews and Miller just continued to cover up this Libby/Cheney/Rove conspiracy. They are both personally involved with spreading falsehoods to cause a war. The falsely claim they cannot talk about the “case”. Both Matthews and Miller are still working for Rove and working for Iraq genocide. They are not journalists, they have blood on their hands.

Stephen Parrish, CPA @ 129

Eureka Springs @ 81

Not another presidential directive..

It sure seems like the road to fascism is paved with additional security measures..

Like this Presidential directive dated May 9, 2007 paving the way for Bush to be King in time of a national disaster..

scary stuff and the white house just keeps printing this stuff without questions from anyone.

As Senator Byrd said yesterday… Is anyone listening?

Please note this excerpt from the directive:

(22) Revocation. Presidential Decision Directive 67 of October 21, 1998 (”Enduring Constitutional Government and Continuity of Government Operations”), including all Annexes thereto, is hereby revoked.

Hi Stephen Parrish! Good to see you.
what is your take on the directive?

and what is the significance of your post?

you always make total sense to me.

Here comes Debbie Wasserman Schultz
She’s great

punaise @ 109

out of context, but the post’s title elicits this (Alanis Morisette):

And I’m here to remind you
Of the mess you left when you went away took office
It’s not fair to deny me us
Of the cross I we bare that you gave to me us
You, you, you oughta know

“cross we bare”? I thought we decided that was senator Snowe’s microphone?

What’s that? “cross we bear”? yeah. much mo bettah.

Boston1775 @ 141

Here comes Debbie Wasserman Schultz
She’s great

Is she on Tweety?
I love her, what heart she has.

This is kind of a dumb fight to pick with Hillary, isn’t it?

Conrad Black has all the qualifications for a pardon: he is a union buster, a crook, rich, an arrogant snot, and a right wing extremist media mogul. What is Bush waiting for?

OT.

Stephen Parrish: There is another directive Bush signed yesterday.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news…..717-3.html

Funnydiva2002 @ 142

What’s that? “cross we bear“? yeah. much mo bettah.

everything comes back to Scooter.

Well, apparently Debbie Wasserman Schultz was a surrogate for HRC.

punaise @ 146

Funnydiva2002 @ 142

What’s that? “cross we bear“? yeah. much mo bettah.

everything comes back to Scooter.

You think Scooter’s a bear?
I don’t THINK so.
Paging TeddySF and TRex!

Tony Snow on CSPAN-2 now.

Hey, a wee bit OT, but what do you guys think of the new spot for Edwards?

Elizabeth on 30 years with John

(I swear the people doing the pr for this campaign read this blog)

Stephen Parrish, CPA @ 136

boxer @ 93

This court is right -wing, but they’re not fascist. If, what I’ve seen so far gets reviewed, it will be declared unconstitutional.

Congress can countermand Executive Orders: Wikipedia

(snip)

Legal conflicts

To date, U.S. courts have overturned only two executive orders: the aforementioned Truman order, and a 1996 order issued by President Clinton that attempted to prevent the U.S. government from contracting with organizations that had strike-breakers on the payroll. Congress may overturn an executive order by passing legislation in conflict with it or by refusing to approve funding to enforce it. In the former, the president retains the power to veto such a decision; however, the Congress may override a veto with a two-thirds majority to end an executive order. It has been argued that a Congressional override of an executive order is a nearly impossible event due to the super majority vote required and the fact that such a vote leaves individual lawmakers very vulnerable to political criticism.

(snip)

That Truman order was Youngstown Sheets, and is good law and analogous to what is being reported here about Bush’s order. The Court has become more Corp. friendly, but that works in our favor with this one. Our market economy requires no deprivation of private property w/o due process.

I think I’m developing another personality due to Hardball.

OldCoastie @ 135

OT – Ha! CA-42 finally has a Dem candidate to run against that criminal, Gary Miller…

at the Big Orange

oh, Howie? Do we know anything about this guy?

Wow, that’s unheard of! Cute and a democrat too! woo hoo!

I lived in OC for a VERY short period of time many moons ago. Couldn’t take the koolaid drinkers. I’m not kidding. Photos of St. Tricky Dick in front entry halls. Really. I do have a brave in-law down there that holds down the Blue fort though. I could see if she knows anything…

If Cooper had any integrity he would resign from Time Magazine, a purveyor of neo-con Republican propaganda and join the people that are going to cleanse the nation of the disease of the Republican Party. Come on Matt the water’s fine, or are you just to wedded to the power, priviledge and wealth?

New thread, boys ‘n girls.

zennurse @ 2:33 pm -

Good to see you…you always make total sense to me.

Thank you.

what is your take on the directive? and what is the significance of your post?

The significance of my earlier comment is that this directive is nothing new, since it replaced a similar Clinton Administration directive.

boxer @ 2:46 pm -

Did you mean to refer to Youngstown Steel?

Funnydiva2002 @ 149

punaise @ 146

everything comes back to Scooter.

You think Scooter’s a bear?
I don’t THINK so.

errr, no. Scooter wrote a book that features a caged bear violating a young girl, or something sick like that.

hayduke @ 146

OT.

Stephen Parrish: There is another directive Bush signed yesterday.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news…..717-3.html

I have perused it, albeit hastily.

zennurse @ 131

Aw, damn, I’m missing Judy, Judy, Judy cause I don’t have TV. She prob can’t talk about the case because of the civil suit, right?

You may find a video clip on MSNBC. Her plastic surgeon channeled her face into taut cherub skin (caked in makeup), plumped her lips, and other tricks of his trade to appear at least a decade younger. Her hair stylist bobbed her hair with Coco Chanel bangs while her newly scalped hairline scar heals. I stand agape!

New thread.

Stephen Parrish, CPA @ 158

boxer @ 2:46 pm -

Did you mean to refer to Youngstown Steel?

No, Youngstown Sheets & Tube v. Sawyer – they were a steel mill however.

Matt Cooper or Bill Dauterive?

Nobody’s sure.

http://i11.tinypic.com/4lslf6a.jpg

puppethead @ 58

Liberal Heart @ 56

You mean the anthrax attack that came just in time for the release of Judith Miller’s book on bio-weapons?

I like to think of it as PNAC’s backup Pearl Harbor event. But they didn’t need it because 9/11 was much bigger than anticipated. So the anthrax became the attack that is not mentioned.

But kudos to Judith Miller for using her inside connections for personal profit, she’s such an enterprising, honest broker. *cough*

Speaking of Miller … she was on Tweety today. I had to go throw up.

Katie Couric on CBS News implied that the Republican obstructionism was a partial victory for Bush. It was framed as a defeat for the Dems and not Republican obstructionism. God I hate the MSM!!!!

Jane Hamsher @ 125

Loo Hoo. @ 118

Jane, explicky?

She looks so different she’s virtually unrecognizable.

Tweety ended by saying “of course you can’t talk about the case…” And Miller gratefully said “Thanks, Chris.” Like we all should know what this means.

To put it mildly, I can’t think of anything that restricts her speech any more.

Scooter walks and nobody talks, and Judy just turned her aspen.
Dowd can kiss her own ass from the bottom of her column.

Oh but to become a British peer, he had to forfeit his Canadian citizenship.

Say what you want about Chretien, he wasn’t scared to scrap with con Black.

newspaperbrat @ 161

zennurse @ 131

Aw, damn, I’m missing Judy, Judy, Judy cause I don’t have TV. She prob can’t talk about the case because of the civil suit, right?

You may find a video clip on MSNBC. Her plastic surgeon channeled her face into taut cherub skin (caked in makeup), plumped her lips, and other tricks of his trade to appear at least a decade younger. Her hair stylist bobbed her hair with Coco Chanel bangs while her newly scalped hairline scar heals. I stand agape!

Shaking jowls only remind us of former criminals.

The problem here is, Matt Cooper actually means it.

But maybe he grins wryly when he says it, or his tone of voice tells ya it’s just that great Cooper sense of humor. After all, why Black? Don’t look too close, now.

There’s a lot more to Conrad Black than meets the eye. Cooper’s rhetorical gambit here is the same one used when the MSM said “Bush just ‘made his case’ for war” (instead of ‘presented it’) and when George W. said “As long as I’m the Decider.” People laugh and think ‘he can’t possibly mean that.’

That baldness is the point. Get an outrageous idea seem ordinary; make it sound acceptable or reasonable; plant the idea and half the country won’t think twice about accepting the most heinous proposition–and the rest will question themselves first.

Cooper might as well have been saying “Commute Conrad Black’s sentence” [before we learn anything more about him.]