All Nite FDL: Kick Out the Jam(mie)sBy: TRex Tuesday July 17, 2007 10:00 pm |
Zennurse points us to this:
The office of Senate Majority Whip Richard J. Durbin (D-Ill.) dispatched interns to buy toothpaste, toothbrushes and deodorant for delivery to GOP leadership offices, with a note offering the "supplies for your sleepless night." It added: "Help us bring an end to this war."
Better pack the economy sizes. There could be a lot of sleepless nights for the Republicans in the future.
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thanks for all this tonight
lolo!
TRex too!
yo, sleepless ones
Thanks, TRex! I was just looking at the numbers and saying “wow”!
cuatro?
Nope. Ah well, Seis is good too.
Someone tell the kids downstairs that we’re here, please.
octogenarian?
Morale of military is already in the crapper.
You may be right. Coburn hinted that more of these are needed from the Senate. Did anyone else hear that from him??
TRex @ 8
It’s done.
anyone let down stairs know?
Sad to say, my laptop crashed yesterday. It could take TWO WEEKS to get it back, the bastards. I cannot go to YK2 with no laptop…
TRex @ 8
aye, aye, cap’n.
Coburn ” What next? What are the consequences? How do we clean up a mess we created? ”
Someone needs to tell Coburn that you’re supposed to change your talking points every 3000 miles, or three months, whichever comes first.
Dr. Dick,
The term “Republican logic” may be the biggest oxymoron of the past 30 years.
I let downstairs know, TRex.
I let downstairs know, TRex.
Downstairs knows.
Kids downstairs were informed. Time for us Easterners to go nite nite. Please call if somrething really ballsy happens. (Though overall I’m pleased with tonight.)
I’m going to bed now.
Don’t stay up too late, and don’t drink all the beer.
If I have to come here and scream,
I’m going to call all of your parents and make them come and pick you up!
And, Turn Down That Stereo.
:) G’nite.
Sooooo veeeerrrry sleeeepppy but can’t mooove awaaay froom the screeen!
Loo Hoo. @ 13
hard drive die?
Here comes Tom Harkin.
Damn, what is it, Fruit-Flavored Tie Night in the Senate?
Awwwwwww, shit. He’s pulling out the Saddam/Rummy connection.
Ed*ard Teller @ 18
Make that the last 45 years. Last rational Republican was Eisenhower.
Harkin up, opens with Rummy visiting Saddam back when. Pie-Yow!
Anybody go to/hear about any of the public gatherings against the war tonight? I missed the one here in Santa Monica, spouse feeling ill.
Night AC.
I didn’t even realize Harkin was still in the Senate.
Night, sweet Demi. Thinking of you bigtime.
Night Demi, my heart goes out to you.
is petrocelli here?
GOOOOD evening! Late to the jammie session. DFH, reporting for duty.
How many real filibusters have there been in the Senate since firedoglake existed?
Ed*ard Teller @ 36
None. The last was in 1964.
argosfalcon @ 28
I don’t know. Nothing on the screen. HP Pavillion I just bought last November. The gal in front of me had the same computer/same problem.
71 percent favor removing all U.S. troops from Iraq from April 1 next year..
Several more snack items out on the table. TRex should recognize one or two from his birthday party.
Did someone say Kick Out the Jams?
I thought so.
(warning: turn down the volume before clicking on that link)
I am just thrilled it is happening. Wish I had the TeeVee to go with the beer.
this is the first, I am sure. The last fillibusters of significance were when Southern Senators were Dems devoted to defeating civil rights
DrDick @ 30
Dr. Dick — I was in therapeutic training a few years back with Dick Armey (and our wives.) He iinsisted on being “Dick One” while I could be “Dick Two” and the wimpy guy could be “Dick Three.” No shit. I thought we had seen the last of Armey, but there he was tonight on Tucker. All I can say is…
wait for it…
wait for it…
“WHAT A DICK.”
Ed*ard Teller @ 36
Believe that was in 1964 on Civil Rights legislation that was opposed by conservatives.
What I don’t understand is why are Democrats speaking at all.. shouldn’t the Republicans have to speak or earn silence by allowing an up or down vote?
Dang, Suz! My FF is not letting me quote, still no refresh button, nor the infernal circle! I’m participating in Msn only! What’s up???
Quite a selection there, TexB!!
TexB @ 39
yum!
I watched about 15 minutes of CSPAN2 after the Colbert Report. I discovered I am completely spoiled by FDL. Where was the explanation of what the vote meant? Where was the running tally of ayes and nays? Where was the countdown clock of how long the senators had to appear?
I’ve got to email CSPAN and tell them that they need a better explanations in the screen text.
Tex, what are “Texas Paprika” doritos? Is this a regional thing I’ll never see in the Ozarks?
BigMitch @ 34
LOL … still laughing at the joke downstairs … thanks …
Yes, and perhaps this is the 2007 version of what might pass for civil rights.
night demiLoo Hoo. @ 38
That odd, if this was a tech site I would ask more questions but that might be more annoying than listening to Lebermann.
Elliott @ 49
Aunt Bee, can I have some of that there corn?
BigMitch @ 43
Those southern Dems morphed into today’s Republicans.
Thanks, Doc.
Loo, I’ll call you soon. Remember, Mr. Moore is Mr. Computer. Maybe we can get you hooked up before Y2K.
We can’t have our potential candidate going un-lapped.
Hi all - between work, school & a death in the family I haven’t been here for weeks. I’ve MISSED you guys! What a time for me to find a window of opportunity to pop back in, huh?
Okay . . . I’m clueless.
What does “707″ mean?
Loo Hoo. @ 48
The guest snack provider had fun finding things I don’t generally serve. :) I still have a few more in the kitchen but may not stay up all night.
Here is great photo from 2005, when all-night filibuster was threatened over Bush judicial pick:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7953279/
The sub-head is “At stake: Bush’s ability to steer the courts in conservative direction”.
Sadly, this ended with the Gang of 14. The cots were never used.
Shadowstalker @ 51
No clue. Ask Cassie.
Petrocelli @ 52
Shoots, we aren’t that lucky Big Mitch!!! ;-)
My friend has a HP pavillion laptop bought last year who just got his back from repair. Its your processor overheating and melting the internal wiring. They gots to replace the processor and motherboard, you wont see that thing in time for YK2, I’m afraid, there is a backlog of everybody who bought those sending them in for repair.
Strange no recall, eh?
Loo Hoo. @ 38
Oh, Great, Loo.
HP Pavilion here too. No problems so far. Now I’m scared.
PoliticalPolyanna @ 59
LOL, but you laughed so hard you fell over.
FiniFiniTOOBZ! @ 64
We have one of those, and it always sits on one of those stands that allows air beneath. Or, when downloading something and sitting idle, I set it upside down.
PoliticalPolyanna @ 60
Boeing’s first commercial jet airliner. Actually it’s an LOL that fell out of its chair on its head.
When you need a break ffrom CSPAN, check this out
http://youtube.com/watch?v=c5dhP8f6yaU
Like how Harkin is framing this. “Let us vote.” “A straight up or down vote.” Let the Republicans have a taste of their own medicine.
Zee @ 58
from TexB @ 39
HARKIN! Reads a real letter!
whew, thought i caught up to y’all downstairs but no! Only crumbs.
Hot Diggitty! TexB moved the whole dang spread up here. Yum, you’re the greatest, hon!
& if laughter is the best medicine, then you pups have made me a much healthier person tonite 8~)
FiniFiniTOOBZ! @ 64
Apparently, unsafe at any speed?
Loo Hoo. @ 2
LooHoo Here I am!
Hi all - what a party! Tom Harkin up. Isn’t it amazing? From nuclear option to permanent filibuster…truly staggering contradictions. Yet, somehow their heads don’t explode. Go figure…
Harkin used a constituents words but actually said “We invaded another country based on lies.”
Eureka Springs @ 71
Harkin is really great. Delivery is a bit dull, but he is hitting all the points. Means that MSM wil never mention him at all tomorrow.
argosfalcon, I sent you a facebook message. Want to friend up?
I need to get one of those cooling fan dealies for my laptop. My poor workhorse takes a lot of abuse from me. My unreasonable mixing and melding of audio and video keeps this thing warmer than Dick Cheney’s throne in hell.
newdealfarmgrrrlll @ 73
Did you see BigMitch’s joke downstairs ? *g*
lolo @ 74
Hey Lolo! Long time no see. How you doing? I am afraid your namesake forest is about to go up in flames.
bg @ 77
Nah, just at 2.4 Ghz :)
TexB @ 62
Had them in California before I was shipwrecked in the Ozarks, good stuff.
DrDick @ 27
I think most Republicans rationally pursue their avaricious self-interest relentlessly. They may be devoid of ethics, and sociopathic, but that is not the same as irrational. W is an exception. He’s just plain nuts.
Petrocelli @ 81
sadly, no! was probably speed reading at that point for debate stuff.
Hey Lolo. Good to see you!
STUPID PERSON - why did you VOTE FOR BUSH??? Lady, you brought this on yourself.
well barabara…
FiniFiniTOOBZ! @ 80
I bought a cooling fan/pad. That was about $40 that did nothing. My laptop still overheated. What finally worked for me is a Podium Cool Pad that holds the back of my laptop up at an angle. No overheating since I bought it a couple of years ago.
I enjoy seeing our senators debating this at 1:30 in the morning.
I hope this means congress approval rating goes up.
A sleepless night is nothing. Try spending one tour of duty after the other in a civil war zone. For years to come our military will spend sleepless nights reliving the nightmare created by BushCo. Yes, bring them home.
Petrocelli @ 81
a man on a subway car notices that the man sitting next to him is reading a Yiddish newspaper.
So he asks him: “Are you Jewish?”
“Yes”
The man continues: “I’ve heard that you Jews are so smart! What makes you so smart? How can I be smart like a Jew? I’ve always wanted to be smart, like you Jews?”
The Jew is annoyed by this and finally says to him, “It’s because we eat lox.”
“Lox? Wow! What is Lox? Where can I get lox? I would give anything for some of this lox? I want to be smart like a Jew, and if I could only get some lox …”
The old Jewish guy, says, “Well, it just so happens, I have some right here.”
“Wow! Can I buy some?? I’ll pay anything for lox! I want it so I can be smart! Please won’t you sell me some lox?”
So the Jewish man sells him a piece of lox the size of a postage stamp for $100. The man tastes it and says: “What the fuck! This is nothing but smoked salmon!
The old man says: “See! You are smarter already!”
DrDick @ 78
it is moving.
Zee @ 90
Heat is not your laptops friend.
lolo @ 74
Young Firedog, WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN?!
We’ve been worried sick!
BigMitch @ 85
I would say that Bush is arrogant and self serving, willing to skewer truth for selfish gain …
‘nuts” gets him off the hook … although it would probably help to feed him some Lox … *g*
Too bad they could’t have a showing of “The Battle of Algiers” on the Senate floor.
Elliott @ 94
I agree with elliot. His delivery is poignant and perfectly pitched.
Bluetoe @ 98
Netflix just mailed it to me today.
On W teh lox would be wasted. Nothing will make him smarter.
it’s 106 degrees in baghdad right now…
tony snow said it was in the 130s…
another lie…
Wasn’t Harkin mentioned years ago as a potential presidential candidate?
Harkin to Repugs: “Why are you so afraid” of an up-or-down vote?
I wish more murikans could be up watching this.
I wish Harkin would suddenly depart from this monotone delivery and start screaming, “LET US VOTE! WAKE UP DEVIL BUSH! I CURSE YOU DEVIL CHENEY! LET US VOTE, FAT FUCKING REPUBS!”
$20 bucks says he does it.
bg @ 74
You need to turn in your laptop for a labtop…
Posts from the Ohio Democratic Party blog about tonight’s “sleepover” here.
DrDick @ 37
I thought there was one in 1988, when the sergeant at arms carried Packwood into the Senate chamber feet first.
I’m good with Tom Hawkin. He’s poignant and sincere. Glad he mentions the citizens who contact his office urging we leave.
This debate is so much more principled than the happy horseshit they had when the subject was debating Supreme Court nominees.
Doncha think?
BigMitch @ 100
Yeah, the French tried to warn us about Viet Nam and in a fashion tried to do the samething in a round about way with our involvement in Iraq.
The letter count over at the Dem Party site is up to 54,212. You can write here and you can send more than one. I figure I’ll send one an hour to each of my two republican senators.
Harkin at his best. Perfect.
Sen. Thune (R-S.D.) up next.
I knew him before he was in Congress. Seemed like a reasonable guy. I wonder whether the Kool-Aid has got to him.
FiniFiniTOOBZ! @ 64
I’m pissed. I bought for The Nation event and YK2. I can sit here and play on my daughter’s computer, but I can’t take it with me.
It must be hard to deliver an empassioned speech to an empty chamber.
“A willful and obstructionist ….” that’s the ticket!
argosfalcon @ 96
Thanks for the advice Zee, I will check that out definitely.
I know heat is not my laptop’s friend, I watched one literally blow up in front of a guy once and caught on fire. I tend to take breaks and turn it off every few hours, I never render video and audio until just after a cooling break and I use this TV tray table to set it on that helps dissipate the heat across the surface of the PVC plastic it uses. Its a pain in the ass but the machine rocks and I want to keep it so I baby it.
neurophius @ 115
I think that is about as safe a bet as post #105 above.
BigMitch @ 91
*snickers* I wouldn’t pay that much, but if there’s some around, pass it over! I tend toward vegetarian but am willing to be a hypocrite when there’s smoked salmon or pickled herring around.
Harkin is doing a great job.
Ed*ard Teller @ 106
Now my curiosity is getting the better of me.
Does each Senator have a specified amount of time they will talk for?
John Burns interview on Charlie Rose tonight was disturbing. He made it clear there is no good solution at this point that will be anything but tragic. He is leaving Iraq.
Harkin’s speech is like the drip, drip, drip of Chinese water torture, slowly but inexorably destroying his opposition.
How long does each Senator get to speak?
TRex @ 122
Agreed. He’s outstanding.
DrDick @ 82
Is it on fire? Hi back at you Dr.D
lolo @ 74
We’ve missed each other! Happydance.
TRex @ 122
Best all night, imo.
Let
Us
Vote
persiflage @ 125
IIRC it is unlimited, but they can only speak twice during the current debate.
The war has been over for like 4 years. I can’t believe we are still there ALL because Bush had no fucking contigency plan for what happens IF the Iraqis didn’t greet us with wreaths of roses?
What a delusional man. Stupid Republican enablers.
“breeding terrorists around the world faster than we can hope to kill them…”
Thanks for the reminder Thune. Whatta boob.
I couldnt see anything in that labtop pic, what was all that?
I love listening to Harkin on medical care or social security. He always tells the story of his coal miner father who had black lung, and had to rely on charity for healthcare.
Ahhh, every time Harkin whacked the Rethugs with the “up-er-down vote” stick I had to smile.
Thune… what a reader.
argosfalcon @ 122
actually, my cat spends more time on the labtops than does Strider the dog. Unlike the computer itself, heat appears to be my cat’s friend. I’ll get a picture of him sitting on it sometime, but I’ve seen lotsa pictures posted by other people of their cats sitting on a laptop.
LooHoo, why not try renting a laptop while your’s in in for work? I think you can get a loaner - like when your car is in for service at the dealer - of course, I could be totally wrong.
lolo @ 129
Not yet, but we are having the hottest summer ever and the fuels are drier than ever recorded. At this point it is only a matter of time before it goes up in flames. I am afraid we are in for a really bad fire season.
DrDick @ 131
Thanks DrDick. I was wondering because they say they’re yielding their time. And what is it with green ties?
persiflage @ 116
The chamber may be empty but the nation is watching.
Zee @ 134
Yup. Sounds like he O.D.’d on the Kool-Aid.
“A willful and obstructionist minority” was also a homerun for Harkin.
I’m MacCool.
From Wikipedia.
Harkin ran for President in 1992 as a populist with labor union support who railed against George H.W. Bush for being out of touch with working class Americans. Harkin was an early favorite in a small field of five candidates, but many felt that Harkin’s liberalism was too shrill and old fashioned and that he would be a certain loser in the General Election. Harkin won the Iowa caucus and those in Idaho and Minnesota (with help from Senator Paul Wellstone), but he ran poorly in New Hampshire and other primaries and ultimately lost the Democratic Party nomination to Governor Bill Clinton of Arkansas. Harkin was the first Democratic primary contender to drop-out and throw his support behind Clinton—a favor that led to a close relationship throughout the Clinton presidency.
Before 2000 Presidential election he was frequently mentioned as one of the politicians, whom Al Gore listed as his possible running-mates
Hahahah Thune missed the dartboard by a MILE on why Afghanistan and Iraq are different!!!!
Is Thune back to “we gotta kill them there so we don’t have to kill them here”?
Wow, if I have to listen to much more of Thune lecturing about 4 billion for MRAPs (uhh, how many years after the Marines asked for them?) I think I’m going to throw something through my TV.
a**hole.
Did he just say “radical Islamb?”
Uh, Senator Thune? Histrionic much?
Thune’s features remind me of Ken Mehlman.
thune looks young enuff to volunteer.
Did you all see the mattresses? Those are normally only used with lobbyists…
(Iraq) A titanic struggle between good and evil…
Oh, brother
Al-Qaeda, Al-Qaeda, Al-Qaeda…..killers! Fear!
I think Thune’s tie is green to remind him that it is all about the money - the money to be made off the war profiteering that would be cut off if we withdrew.
mutzali @ 149
No, I think it’s more like “we gotta let ‘em kill us there so we don’t have to let ‘em kill us here.”
TRex @ 96
Hey! This bozo got something right! “Afghanistan is a GOOD war. Iraq is a BAD war.” Naaaaah. Ya think, Sparky?
Of course, he loses points for not understanding WHY that statement is true. His pathetic assertion that it’s due to the difference in the respective casualty counts is just stupid.
timmm @ 102
It ain’t August.
Run out and stock up on duct tape and plastic sheeting. Be affraid. Be very affraid.
*xyz @ 154
THANK YOU! I was racking my brain trying to figure out who he looked like…
In the wee hours of the morning, Thune hair is looking pretty good. How much do you reckon he pays for that haircut?
“al Qaida in Iraq” mostly Iraqis?
Thune is currently singing the WATB National Anthem.
Actually, killing them over there so they can kill us over here, I think is where it is headed. Or at least, that is a gut feeling I heard about recently.
This guy is a huge dickwad. Unbelievable. Too bad it’s past most people bedtime. The contrast between him and Harkin is incredible. What a fucking dope, Thune is.
Zee @ 163
I’m here to help.
Bluetoe @ 164
I still have mine from 2001. Think the duct tape is still sticky enough to keep the evil out?
“8 out of 18″
A gentleman’s F
TRex @ 152
Like a lot of GOP politicians, he’s had a historyectomy. Part of how we got to “Republican logic.”
He kind of overdid it on the bronzer, didn’t he? He looks like an Orange Julius in search of a paper cup.
TRex @ 168
What is that?
Oh, Thune thinks we’ve seen some real progress in Iraq.
When did you say the tooth fairy was dropping by, Senator Thune?
WATB?
Thune is deeply confused or woefully underinformed when it comes to his inability to distinguish Al Qaeda in Afghanistan from Al Qaeda in Iraq and the components of the insurgency in Iraq. It’s really quite sad.
DrDick @ 141
That is such a shame.
John Thune now. Is everything he says going to be a litany of cost justification.
Please don’t send a young person to die for me in the name of liberty. What makes me more important than that person?
OMG the good old struggle between good and evil and that is justification to be in Iraq. No, no, their mission is not to protect me. I forbid it.
Boring! Convince me with a real argument. Don’t preach at me.
National WAAmbulance.
bg @ 166
And of course, precipitous withdrawal
bg @ 166
And of course, precipitous withdrawal
Loo Hoo. @ 165
The record high temp in Iraq is IIRC 118 (saw it earlier today). Hellaciously hot, but a far cry from 130.
BigMitch @ 176
Whiny-assed titty baby.
Ed*ard Teller @ 139
The neighbors cat sometimes visits and just can’t enough of certain animations, its great to watch.
TRex @ 174
I just snarfed my Diet Coke out my nose!
WATB=Whiny-Ass Titty Baby.
“Al Qaeda is COMING!! They’re gonna GET US!! They’re EEEEEEEVIL and I’m SOOOOOO SCARED!! President Bush, take away my liberties so you can SAVE ME!!”
Capice?
8 out of 18.
Gee, our Administration is really lowering the bar on what a success is.
From what I’ve learned, if under oath, always say you don’t recall.
If you are in class, 8/18 on any test is not considered a failure, but ‘progress’.. And you cannot classify ‘progress’ as a failure because it might undermine what progress umm, was made..
TRex @ 174
LOL. At 1:45 a.m. I needed that.
rms @ 153
Can we sent him registration forms?
TRex @ 174
if there is ever a tanning bed scandal, thune will be right in the middle of it…
mutzali @ 172
It’s not even that. “Progress” (cough) in 8 out of 18. Success, ZERO
TRex @ 189
10-4
I’ve got real issues with a tactic in which the expected outcome (failure) is anticipated and announced beforehand. There’s no reason to doubt that proponents of ending this fiasco in Iraq haven’t a chance in hell of prevailing. But yet we hope, and we waste (IMHO) our energy staying up to watch our failure on CSpan.
Instead of being at the effect of both our Democratic representatives in Congress and Conservatives, there a couple of points I think we need to consider from Robert Parry at Consortium News: “If the Democrats really want to prevail over George W. Bush on the Iraq War and on his authoritarian vision of presidential powers, they would put back on the table two options that their leaders have removed: a cut-off of war funding and impeachment.”
What I’m watching on CSpan right now is a charade. I want action and I want it NOW!
Does precipitous withdrawal win the award for The Most Popular Rove Talking Point of the Night?
Or is it “Publicity Stunt”?
“… the sad politicization of the war on terror.” Wow. There really is no shame here. The “war on terror” was conceived and named as a political stunt, a political act (imagine if it had just been a war on Al Qaida). How can something like that possibly be further politicized?
Yeah, Sen. Thune - you just keep drinkin’ the Kool Ade™
Ah yes, the magic of September.
This is not the time to debate this??? WTF? Maybe next he can say this is not an appropriate subject for this forum…..
Here comes the September Song.
i will need to precipitously withdraw to work in about six hours…
Cozumel @ 185
OF COURSE! As I said in the previous thread, “PRECIPITOUS WITHDRAWAL” is the latest Kristolism. After all . . . “CUT-N-RUN” is SOOOOOOOO last month.
TRex @ 189
Ha!
You know, I don’t even care any more, if we’re attacked again. If we are, we are. I refuse to live in fear of Al Qaeda or anyone else. I just don’t care.
I refuse to live in fear. If I die, musta been my time. Oh well.
But I simply refuse to live in fear. Sorry, Thune, you’re just a dick.
I thought “political theater” was the phrase o’ the day.
I like the mattresses they call “cots.” You know, I might like camping better if I could sleep on a cot like that.
I recall prior to the 06 election when the Republican Senate threatened the nuclear option when the Democrats threatened to filibuster supreme court nominees. For those more familiar with the Senate rules than I, why can’t the nuclear option be used overcome a filibuster to pass a law to end the war if it can be used to overcome a filibuster to block a supreme court nominee?
Republicans, and many Democrats, once again, speak against exactly what they intend to do. In this case it’s saying lets not legislate strategy.. They are determined to stay in Iraq and will only allow a minuscule appearance of limited withdrawl when they allow anything at all.. Which is legislating strategy.
cottery
Maeven — this is going to result in one of two things.
A. A bill with a timeline for withdrawal.
2. King George the Incompetent vetoing a defense authorization bill.
The public will learn that Democrats are on their side.
This is not a waste of time.
But on your larger point, impeachment should be on the table.
Tillman can do it.
Thune’s tan is proof that global warming is real. I didn’t realize it got hot enough in South Dakota to tan like that.
BigMitch @ 195
Maybe we should send Lindsay Graham over to wake Leader from his slumber.
this orange popsicle with the green stripe needs to stfu. i’m sick of him and his whine.
“8 out of 18″
the soft bigotry of low expectations?
Senator Pumpkin-skin!
His praise for the green beret seems forced and nongenuine.
subdemon @ 210
That’s not a tan but manure. A side effect of running with the Republicans.
Petraeus…
Hmmm - isn’t he the guy who Bush hired because he would say whatever Bush wanted?
Didn’t Bush fire a bunch of other generals who wouldn’t tell him what he wanted?
So tell me again, why do we let the Republicans get away with chanting “let the generals decide”?
Let’s remember that Bush fired several prior generals and hired Petraeus in their place.
Bush is the one who has interjected himself into the chain of military command. He is the one who must be held responsible for the situation.
TRex @ 175
Ah Ha Ha !!
Suzanne @ 211
The real pain of the filibuster.
atrocitor @ 206
Because it relies upon having a presiding officer (i.e. Veep) who’ll overrule the Senate Parliamentarian and agree on a point of order to allow a strict majority vote to cut off debate.
WEll, that is all the Rethug whining I can handle for one night. I am heading to bed. Take care and enjoy the snark. I am pretty sure they are going to provide us with plenty of ammunition for future roastings.
Anyone noticing all the Republicans distancing themselves from Bush? They have been admitting past errors and such..
And it must really chap his ass to say “Madame President”, since he keeps saying “Mr. Presi–, I mean Madame President”.
Just to remind her that a man should be sitting there, and she should be home scrubbing floors, now that the dishes are done.
Brilliant! “There are a lot of people that know more than I do that have come to the very same conclusion.” Hmm, like the think tank that wrote your talking points?
Idiot
Sen. Thune: “A lot of people have selectively quoted from the Iraq Study Group tonight, so allow me to get in on the fun!”
He can’t even say ‘precipitous’ anymore.
howdy pups! i just woke up (middle of the night for me), and thought it would be nice to catch up on the senate all-nighter…
Oh, great, now he’s quoting Kissinger.
Do Republicans wake up blank every day? Their knowledge of history (or lack thereof) is frankly appalling.
thune: precipitous withdraw = threat to global economy
Senator Thune, your tanning cot is ready.
-GSD
Yes. Quote Kissinger, the most evil person of the 20th century. And, now the 21st century.
I didn’t know Beckam? was a Senator as well
Well pups, I’m off to bed myself. Have fun!
neurophius @ 196
“Precipitous Withdrawal” was apparently coined by Kristol. Arianna Huffington mentioned it in a piece she wrote.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/.....neurophius
atrocitor @ 206
The nuclear option — invented by my own dear Senator Ted Stevens — is pretty strong medicine, and I don’t think we want that precedent. Sometime fillibuster is a reasonable defense against the tyranny of a majority. But you have to be willing to stand up and do it. Are the Republicans willing to do it to prevent the majority from heeding the counsel of the majority of Americans to pull out of Iraq? Maybe, but I don’t think so. Did Dems have the moxie to stop a Supreme Court nominee? Sadly, no. And that is why Roe v. Wade and Brown v Topeka Bd of Ed are dead or dying. One more thing to thank Joe Lieberman for.
pseudonymous in nc @ 218
I thought the trap door was supposed to open whenever anyone said “precipitous withdrawal?”
Can they send the Seargent at Arms to drag Dick(head) Cheney in since he’s President Pro Temp of the Senate. Oh wait, Dick would shoot him in the face.
when is the camera going to pan the senate floor? are any other senators there?
I trying to remember the last sincere pumpkin I saw on the floor of the senate.
Maeven @ 195
Agreed, however it’s obvious the Dems need this find yer gonads dress rehearsal.. It is pathetic but it’s helping. The Blue dogs and 16 Republicans need this and they need a lot of it in order to get where you and I want it to end up, jmho.
GSD @ 228
lol
Loo Hoo. @ 14
Not to fret one whit cause I’ll bring my extra Mac laptop for you.
McCain!
“Secure areas … “
QuakerGirl @ 124
selise @ 227
You missed Harkin, selise, watch for the replay tomorrow.
yes, Congress - don’t try to meddle in the war - leave it to the Commander guy, who is such a war and military expert, and has succeeded so brilliantly at everything he’s put his hand to…
Oh shit, loser-boy is talking now.
“SEND ME SOME MONEY, PUHLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEZE.”
RIP McCain
PoliticalPolyanna @ 202
did any of the Senators bring up the Iraqi oil laws? Hey John McCain how much you in for???
When is Senator Blutarsky up?
-GSD
atrocitor @ 240
Thank you for the response. So only the party controlling the executive branch can use the nuclear option?
“Hi, Senator Lott. Welcome to the 24-7 Huddle House. My name’s Harry and I’ll be your server.
No; shut the fuck up! You’re confused; you lost the right to decide what’s on the menu last November. WE’LL do that from now on.
So. 3 scrambled, some half-cooked bacon, and grits (but you knew that was coming) with a big dollop of #3 yellow-dyed lard right in the middle, to keep those old arteries greased.
Had any “little strokes” lately? Slurring any words? Any trouble remembering where you left that road-kill-possum toupee?
Late getting to those monthly “Sons of Nathan Bedford Forrest” meetings in Tupelo?
Don’t worry, we’re just one big bass-fishing tournament up here. Somebody’ll look after you and tell you when we’re voting, so as to give you a chance to help us “support the troops” in a way that doesn’t use them like Charmin asswipe, to give goatboy and you guys the chance to slip out the back door of The Little Bighorn while you leave us to play Custer to all those pissed-off redskin voters.
THAT is NOT on the menu, in any way, shape, or form. But if you guys stick around for lunch, we’ve got a delicious FRENCH souffle of thoughtfully aged crow, sauteed in rancid snakeoil and koolaid. I’m sure you’ll love it, since you’ve been peddling it for the past 5 years.
BTW, I’m expecting one hell of a tip. At $2.5 billion a week for the body-parts buffet you guys have ginned up in Iraq, I figure you can afford it.
Chow.”
Oh god. McCain… i thought about slitting my wrists earlier but didn’t have the guts… this should do it
How’s that campaign going McCain? Too bad it wasn’t a magic carpet he got in Bagdad
timmm @ 247
Oh, come on. He looks so lifelike!
Ed*ard Teller @ 173
BWAh HaHa, have to remember that one…’historyectomy” (helpless giggle fit)
Maybe McCain should call that loan place Gary Coleman advertises.
timmm @ 247
Too bad it’s only a political obit.
When do the Republicans begin reading from the telephone books?
It’s a duet, Thune and McCain.
selise @ 233
Harry let a bunch off the hook by announcing he would not order a quorum call until 4 or 5(?) but the talking will go on all night with a vote at 11.
May I get you a cup of tea?
Oh it was just a cameo… BRB gonna update his IMDB entry
TRex @ 255
he looks so natural
Zee @ 254
Ha!
well, there’s mccain… so there’s at least one other senator present.
Starring John McCain in Boo Radley goes to Washington.
-GSD
Soldier says incredible progress in Iraq before being killed kicking in door.
What?
GSD @ 249
it’s the only reason I’m still up.
Shorter Thune: I do whatever the terrorists tell me.
Bluetoe @ 257
Well, actually it’s called Talking Point Book. Turn to any page and read.
newspaperbrat @ 241
Soooo sweet newspaperbrat!
The ghost of campaigns past and the pumpkin
John the Revelator @ 256
At FDL it is unacceptable to wish physical harm on anyone.
Welcome back Selise. Grab a snack. http://picasaweb.google.com/Te.....rLateNight
What a contrast between Thune and Webb.
Thune: We should let the ‘commanders on the ground’
make policydetermine our direction.I still think it was a major mistake to force this issue over Levin-Reid, rather than over Webb. Too late to change that, but it would have given so many film clips of Rethugs arguing against troop prep and benefits, and denied them the opportunity to use “precipitous withdrawal” and “embolden the enemy.” And every time the term “troops on the ground” came up, every time somebody mentioned a serviceman, a serviceman or servicewoman out there woiuld be yelling “Horseshit!’ at the screen. I’m sure a few are anyway, but they shoould have done this over Webb’s amendment. It would have made the GOP seem even more hapless than what we’re seeing.
And - “ta-ta” - here’s my guy…
1. This continues to be some of the most “divine entertainment” I’ve had in awhile. Listening to the various R teamers pontificate is priceless.
2. I certainly hope that some eager-beaver internets folks create some sort of YouTube “collage” of all their idiocy displayed today.
Ghostman
Kick his ASS Senator Webb.
Webb’s bringing the hammer down.
10,000 Americans died after that conversation.
Go Webb!!!
“They realize full well where the battle line is drawn”
Yeah, Thune, it’s called a feint, and it’s a popular move by armies which are OUTMATCHED and OUTNUMBERED. It’s tricking your opponent into going exactly where you want them to, knowing their resources will get tied down, and troop morale will lessen as the mission statement gets bogged down.
Thune, you, and Bush, were TRICKED and taunted into Iraq if you say you went to Iraq to defeat al Qaeda..
John the Revelator @ 246
His last staffer standing should wrap McCain in wet sheets and take him to the nearest padded cell, errr…mental ward. What’s that old Washington institution where FDR peeps sent Erza Pound - am geting a gothic image but can’t remember the name of the hospital.
Roasted Toasted and burnt to a crisp
Does Thune not know about Webb’s son?
We don’t have “debate” in our Congress. We have speeches. There’s no debate.
We need to do it like the British do! Now they DEBATE.
nice Webb…
oldtimers had help Thune out in reclaiming his time…
Cantwell has cot hair.
Eureka Springs @ 259
wow. so how many are actually there? (i see senator webb - good on him)
thank you for the tea - herbal for me please.
Time for me to watch the real news — Jon Stewart.
GSD @ 264
ROFL
anyone see Webb give the walking orange julius the evil eye?
“excuse me?”
TRex @ 285
What did Thune say?
-GSD
Shorter Republicans: It’s terrible that the Dems are wasting valuable time we could be using to obstruct other legislation!
Dover Bitch @ 278
Wasn’t that the fighting for peace is like f**king for virginity moment?
Thune was just insinuating that Webb doesn’t know the real views and feelings of the troops in Iraq.
BigMitch @ 290
Tearing into Vitter and AbuG!!!
Dover Bitch @ 278
That’s the kind of stuff that haunts me. How can we ignore the signs. Escalating the surge…
Can’t shake the echoes from early Viet Nam
Yes, Maria Cantwell. Open with a strong statement on point. Yes, bring it home - change the course in Iraq.
Cantwell’s vampire skin is such a contrast from Pumpkin head.
Finally, one of my senators! And she does not have cot hair. So there. :P
selise @ 233
The Senate doesn’t allow C-SPAN to do panning shots when the Senate is empty.
TRex @ 294
lol Thune stepped in it there, didn’t he?
I can see it now, when McCain is forced to finally withdraw (in a couple weeks if he has a shred of self-respect left) and after the speech, he’ll be led, shaking, to a ‘72 Pinto which will take him to a nursing home. That’s about all the car he’ll be able to afford.
“I COULDA BEEN A CONTENDAH!!!!!!”
Maeven — this is going to result in one of two things.
A. A bill with a timeline for withdrawal.
2. King George the Incompetent vetoing a defense authorization bill.
The public will learn that Democrats are on their side.
This is not a waste of time.
But on your larger point, impeachment should be on the table.
Tillman can do it.
We’re going to be nipple-deep in Iran before Waxman gets Tillman on the table. We ARE already waist-deep in Iran - “Are we Already at War?
Have US-enabled Kurds killed 200 Iranian Troops?”
Democrats in the Senate are looking for cover, and nothing does that better than long-windedness.
Drat … took a bathroom break and missed Webb … recap please …
Woo-Hoo, Suz!!! I’m back in Firefox! I had to do a System Restore!!!
TexB @ 273
holy cow! yum-yum.
Alicia @ 244
No, you don’t understand. He boned up a lot on military strategy while he was AWOL from the Texas Air National Guard…strategy like “how to avoid serving in combat”
TheOtherWA @ 300
and she’s wearing proper filibuster-wear. a nice pink jammie suit. very sweet!
Elliott @ 298
It never left me, when this started I just knew this would happen, but hoped I was wrong as I often am.
PoliticalPolyanna @ 302
First Huckleberry, now Thune looking for a real thumping from a combat veteran. No shame.
John the Revelator @ 302
Do you know this song?
John the Revelator @ 303
I think he will be like the character in the film “Inherent the Wind” who a completely broken man after loosing the Scopes monkey trial. Can’t remember the characters name but was based on William Jennings Bryan.
I must turn in. Molly is curled up at my feet. Good night all. You make great company.
CTuttle @ 306
I had to do a system reboot but no restore, ct. glad you are back.
BigMitch @ 93
had it for dinner yestidy. ain’t worked on me yet …….
night QG
John Thune is taking on Webb because he hasn’t - give me a break - personally gone to IraQ (son doesn’t count!). Now Maria Cantwell . . . .
She Does not support the surge. She’
s quoting Warner to stop the Iraq War in 2006.
The leaders should bring insgents together, back then, so guess what?
Violence continues.
Pear
When I was a lot, lot younger, precipitous withdrawal was the only form of birth control we had.
PoliticalPolyanna @ 302
I think Thune and Graham were baiting him, trying to get him to drag his son into it.
TRex @ 294
Thune’s engaging in foreplay with Lindsay Graham, who lost several hard-ons in close combat with Webb last Sunday.
Maria Cantwell is hot, even with cot hair.
Dover Bitch @ 312
Uhh, yes, I do. I can play slide guitar on it, AND sing it. :-D
I just emailed Kit Bond again, the following:
In 1976, you appointed my father, (I named him here), Director of Veterans’ Affairs for the state of Missouri. He served in that capacity until “Talkin’ Joe” Teasdale took office and restaffed. My father was a veteran of three wars, and served the veterans of Missouri tirelessly during your governorship to support the men and women who supported the United States of America. It is in his memory now that I ask you to please reconsider your viewpoint on the Levin-Reed amendment. This war was begun under false pretenses, has no real plan for success, and it is only to salve the ego of George Bush’s cabal that our brave soldiers and sailors risk their lives and the livelihoods of their families. While this daily bleeding goes on, in Afghanistan, our real enemy is regrouping and rearming for further terrorist attacks on our soil. Please, enable an up-or-down vote and vote for Missouri’s veterans, to end this madness. Support our current troops the way you supported WWII, Korean, and Vietnam veterans in the 1970s, when you appointed my father to look after Veterans’ Affairs.
Thank you,
Recapping Webb’s most recent bit: Thune started blowing out a lot of heinous lies about the results of opinion polls among military service people in Iraq, and Webb offered to “clarify” his understanding for him. There was a brief scuffle while Madame President explained that Senator Webb was out of order, and Senator Thune declined the opportunity to have his lies exposed out loud.
“..Working with .. and calling on the United Nations on .. mediation in Iraq”
Way to go Cantwell
PoliticalPolyanna @ 301
sha-yeah. like any of them would want to piss Webb off during the waking hours, let alone 2 a.m.!!!
BigMitch @ 85
just ask Richard Mellon Scaife ………
Nite QG
cancer_cures @ 297
No. Cantwell’s skin is normal. Thune looks like George Hamilton’s twin.
shadowstalker, that is a great letter. i hope your senator listens to what you had to say.
“At the heart of this dispute..The Iraqi fears that in this draft there is a great deal of benefit for foreign oil companies..”
TRex - over 1,020 comments tonight on your shift.
Bluetoe @ 312
You know, we were talking earlier about the intentional/unintentional freudian slips that would be drooping (oh see? there I go) dropping through the night.
Inherit the Wind, my friend. Inherent the Contempt is what we are watching on cspan right now.
TRex @ 294
Didn’t Huckleberry try that–and get stomped?
John the Revelator @ 320
She’s high-tailing it straight into the weeds and it’s getting very close to Theropod bedtime.
*YAAAAAWWWWNNNN*
*blink, blink*
I have another post set to go off in about twenty minutes, y’all. Clean up after yourselves before you head out, okay?
it’s all about oil, baby…
Cantwell gets into the Harkin hall of fame for speaking the truth, imo.
17 out of 80 known oil fields are for Iraqis. The rest are for AMERICA and EUROPE. Ya, no wonder why Iraqi’s are pissed off. Umm, they used to have stability, infrastructure, you know, before we invaded, wrecked their country and stole their oil
Ed*ard Teller @ 330
dang - i knew we were busy but dang.
Go Maria! Major points for pointing out what this war is really about… OIL.
COT War
Call Off This War
Democrats, meet backbone. Feels good. Fuck yeah!!
Petrocelli - what is the name of the mental hospital in Washington, DC - been around forevah - Lennon’s shooter - the son of rich republicans - was or remains in that place? Oh if I only had a brain - just hate it when a name escapes me.
loo hoo - just send me an email and we’ll figure out the Chicago logistics - newspaperbratATgmailDOTcom.
fahrender @ 316
LOL !!!
… waves to fahrender …
I had to leave the TV for a while. Has Webb spoken?
dead last @ 341
This almost makes up for the Iraq vote several weeks back. That flippin’ vote pert-near did me in.
persiflage @ 319
707 !!!
Right on, Maria! Don’t let Dubya steal Iraq’s oil!
sleep well trex.
ya’ll gotta behave - we have only this and one more thread to get us all the way to morning.
subdemon @ 329
She’s a vampire. Pale skin. Debating at night. Coincidence? I think not!
Breaking News:
Senator Lindsay Graham tossed out of the nap room for humping his pillow.
-GSD
I think tomorrow we must write Reid to keep it going.
Hey, you know, about that tan….did anyone check the pizzas? Were they delivered from the Fort Dix pizzeria?
I’m just saying you can’t be too careful, senator.
cantwell: privatization of oil reserves
republicans: more cowbell, more cowbell!!!
Suzanne @ 330
He won’t listen, but hey, I had to try. I used to like him, but years in the Senate seem to have hardened the arteries in his brain.
wow. privatization of iraqi oil. permanent bases.
fighting over oil…
someone put thought into what to say..
Cantwell does tend to read her speeches. She needs to join Toastmasters.
I’m about to drop like a fly. Thanks for the company tonight, folks.
GSD @ 352
wasn’t a pillow…
I’m off to bed. Good to be back y’all.
Cantwell mentioned ‘permanent bases’ too. Hot damn.
According to Wolfowitz (through Cantwell)
50 - 100 billion dollars in oil money revenue in two or three years. Gee, that’s not even how much money we authorized for the war this year! How was this war going to pay for itself again?
cancer_cures @ 339
And killed almost 1.7 million of them, injured another 2 million, destroyed 4 million peoples’ homes, made 2.5 million of them refugees, destroyed the hopes and futures of the best educated class of women outside of Israel in the Middle East and left radioactive plumes on prectically every street corner in half the towns there of over 50,000 souls.
Yoo Hoo, someone, anyone: Did Webb speak?
Shadowstalker @ 321
Bravo!
Suzanne @ 315
Did you catch some critters???
GSD @ 352
Go easy on Huckleberry. He’s swooning from a case of the vapors.
Elliott @ 342
Caught
On
Tape?
Nite all! It’s been fun ; )
And ((((Demi))))
And ((((Jane))))
Take care
Bluetoe @ 367
You sure it wasn’t a case of Southern Comfort?
Liberal Heart @ 363
He was interrupting Senator Pumpkinskin repeatedly, then told to politely shup up from Madam speaker
Liberal Heart @ 346
He asked Thune a couple of questions, but Webb hasn’t had his turn yet. He’ll be a great one on this topic.
QuakerGirl @ 124
And that is why, purely and simply, the Republicans do not want us to remove the troops before 2009. It is going to be very ugly when we leave and the Republicans can frame it better for them if they can make the military stay there until Fuckwad sneaks off to Uraguay.
It really doesn’t matter to them how many more soldiers and Marines get killed or wounded or driven to the breaking point just so long as they can look better in the eyes of the willfully ignorant ……
Liberal Heart @ 363
I don’t think so but I’ve only been watching the last hour.
Ed*ard Teller @ 361
i HATE this fucking war
Suzanne @ 350
Us misbehave? Not us!!! Particularly, on this most auspicious nite!!! *g*
Webb hasn’t spoken yet, LHeart. Him and the orange Popsicle guy with the green stripe sorta verbally sparred but Popsicle guy backed down.
OK, here’s a song that fits the repukes pretty well.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZLG91sHzFw
I heard Lindsey got thrown out cuz he could not sleep without the light on. The monsters under his bed and all.
New thread upstairs.
Suzanne @ 140
I didn’t buy the extended warrantee. I thought with Hewlett Packart…
I’ll see what I can do wrt renting.
2:20 AM Maria Cantwell takes names - kicks ass. Jumbo kudos.
newspaperbrat @ 344
Hey NPB … Linky - Attica …
If (when) the cloture vote fails tomorrow, can Reid schedule another 30 hours of debate. He should make the rethugs keep going till they vote for cloture. The thugs know bush will veto the bill when its passed.
OK, I like that the Dems are standing up and debating, but the point of a filibuster is to exhaust and outlast your enemy. One or two sentences, maybe a paragraph, is all a Dem needs to say, they should be demurring and giving their time to the Pubs. Make them do the work, not giving them breaks. You load up the time on the other side as much as you can.
cancer_cures @ 339
The Iraqis are going to drag their feet and take their sweet time.
All Nite FDL: Keep it Down In There!, upstairs
AP) Anonymous sources revealed Leader Reid ordered the Sgt. At Arms to pipe the soundtrack to Pillow Talk into the Republican cot room.
Lindsey Graham, was the first to send a thank you note.
Republicans sure spend alot of time at tanning salons. They all must be trying to emulate the Boehner dude.
ellwort @ 379
there’s your substance, limbaugh…
bg @ 378
That monster is Karl Rove playing Pokiemon with Jeff Gannon.
John the Revelator @ 246
What a great name you have.
Now I’m gonna have to go to YouTube…
Petrocelli @ 382
Red-faced - wrong shooter - the one I had in mind before I lost my mind - may have taken a shot at Reagan? Oh never mind - forgive me pups for wasting lake time. :~(
Well Pups, was hoping to make it until Webb but sleep is heavy on the ole eye lids. Nite all and keep on keeping on.
Joementum’s fundraising prowess for Snowe’s opponent has really put the fear in her hasn’t it.
“No significant progress on ANY of the points”
Ya’ll know we are upstairs with fresh thread?
The Iraqi parliament is off for the entire August month..
Meanwhile, our soldiers are there every day of August fighting and defending THEIR country from insurgents, criminals, and terrorists.
What the fuck. hey Iraqi parliament. My lawn is getting long. Why don’t you make yourselves useful and give it a cut??
Bluetoe @ 214
well, all you have to do is stick your headup Chick Daney’s chubby ass for about 10 seconds and you got ‘er done ………
subdemon @ 394
You mean Collins opponent. Olympia Snowe was up for re-election in 2006, it’s Maine’s junior Senator Susan Collins that up for re-election in ‘08.
BTW i’m really enjoying the all night session, I think the Dems finally found the cajounes they so needed.
PoliticalPolyanna @ 232
it’s what happens when you’re doin’ it too close to a cliff ….
newspaperbrat @ 392
St. Elizabeth … Wikipedia is my friend … *g*
Fahrender:
“…until fuckwad sneaks off to Uruguay…”
THAAAAAAAAAAT’s the plan!
But questions arise, daily:
Are most of our military going to keep holding still for being used as ass-scoot material for george bush’s “legacy”?
Will the democrats bend over and spread their cheeks to quietly let the “Uruguay” scenario play out, while the repubs sneak out of town, and then turn around and point to the end result of “liberated Iraq” and to the dems, as they shreik to the voters:
“Lookit what THEY’ve done!”?
One political party is going to come out of this, dead in the water. Which one should it be? :o)
It’s all about timing, now, and Reid’s little slumber party is a good place to start.
A pretty good squeeze of the GOP zit. The stuff coming out isn’t pretty, but hey; some electorate’s got to look at it. :o)