Yes — but Reid is either asleep,or incompetent, or running on someone else’s agendum, or he would have Whipped the Dem Senators into line. I do wonder about te suggestion above that ‘they’ just did not bother to read the Bill!

Thank you for cleaning up my sausage-fingered typos! (”H” touchpad is missing too, but that is well-known Toshiba laptoppery.)

LS @ 44

Holy cow!!! We must IMPEACH!!
Sounds like somebody might know something we don’t know…:

dailykos link

Wow.

O Dear God. I had some tinfoil hat comments up a few weeks ago mulling over this kind of scenario — which, let me tell you, is not conducive to good sleep — but now to hear it from the other side of the aisle, er, cosmic divide!

Somebody has already tested an attack on government … remember 9/12 or thereabouts? I have been trying to retrieve an executive order that I thought said something about the powers of POTUS to ‘restore’ the operations of the legislative branch. Ring a bell with anybody?

LS @ 128.

Any possible justifying for attacking Iran adds to the potential for disaster.

Look at a map of Iran:
1. It is enormous and would need a large number of nuclear weapons to destroy the place, so many that we might well destroy ourselves with the fall-out. Iran’s closer northern neighbour is Russia, which would be immensely pissed-off about the adjacent radiation. What is the point of destroying the country if we cannot use it afterwards?

2. The map will show you how narrow the Gulf is; the radiation would render inoperable all the oil and gas installations on the west side of the Gulf, all those, that is, which Iran’s deep missiles had not taken out.

3. Where will our boys run to when millions of Iranans pour over the border into Iraq? Will they emulate the march from Kut? Will they enjoy their walk out into Jordan and down to Akaba? (It is likely that Moslem solidarity will cause Jordan to close access to our Colony, Israel.)

4. Is there no one to whom Cheney/Bush will listen, who can get through to them that Russia, with China behind them is waiting to have Most Powerful Country handed to it on a plate? That is where we are heading and it will come immediately if they attack Iran.

All politics is most decidedly not local, and international politics have never been so, though The Lobby has promoted the notion. Roman Consuls and Emperors knew it was not true, and so did Metternich, Talleyrand, and Wellesley.

There are those outside this country who think that Cheney/Bush have already finished us off, that the fall is irrevocable.

My point is that the 97-0 vote is puzzling. I’m speculating if it is a trap by the Dems. If you voted that you are against Americans being murdered by Iranians in Iraq, and the Administration is tooting that horn 24/7 that they are murdering Americans in Iraq, then how can you vote NO on a vote to remove them from harms way. If you vote NO on a bill to redeploy, then you are agreeing to keep the troops in a situation where they are being murdered by Iranians. How can you vote YES on the one vote, and NO on the other. It is a trap, and perhaps a damn good one.

Any possible justifying for attacking Iran adds to the potential for disaster.

Look at a map of Iran:
1. It is enormous and would need a large number of nuclear weapons to destroy the place, so many that we might well destroy ourselves with the fall-out. Iran’s closer northern neighbour is Russia, which would be immensely pissed-off about the adjacent radiation. What is the point of destroying the country if we cannot use it afterwards?

2. The map will show you how narrow the Gulf is; the radiation would render inoperable all the oil and gas installations on the west side of the Gulf, all those, that is, which Iran’s deep missiles had not taken out.

3. Where will our boys run to when millions of Iranans pour over the border into Iraq? Will they emulate the march from Kut? Will they enjoy their walk out into Jordan and down to Akaba? (It is likely that Moslem solidarity will cause Jordan to close access to our Colony, Israel.)

4. Is there no one to whom Cheney/Bush will listen, who can get through to them that Russia, with China behind them is waiting to have Most Powerful Country handed to it on a plate? That is where we are heading and it will come immediately if they attack Iran.

All politics is most decidedly not local, and international politics have never been so, though The Lobby has promoted the notion. Roman Consuls and Emperors knew it was not true, and so did Metternich, Talleyrand, and Wellesley.

There are those outside this country who think that Cheney/Bush have already finished us off, that the fall is irrevocable.

OT- a caller on Ed Schultz show just said the NRA is calling for members to ‘arm up’ and recruit.
Unbelievable.

I can’t find anything on their web site but that doesn’t mean it isn’t there. I would really like to know more about this.

LS @ 44

Holy cow!!! We must IMPEACH!!
Sounds like somebody might know something we don’t know…:

dailykos link

Wow.

And he was a Republican insider. That’s one of the scariest articles I’ve read in a long time. People don’t think false flag incidents are possible. But…they wouldn’t really do THAT, would they?

We need to consider the possibility.

Via Greenwald, a link to a truly great Tom Tomorrow cartoon.

http://www.salon.com/comics/tomo/2007/07/16/tomo/

LOL – Excellent and true!!