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		<title>By: MarkH</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/07/15/worth-your-time/#comment-824176</link>
		<dc:creator>MarkH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jul 2007 03:48:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-823522&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Arnie @ 140&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-823488&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;raven @ 126&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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I’m sorry Lady Bird passed away but, IMHO, Lyndon was as responsible for the Vietnam War as anyone. …
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&lt;p&gt;IIRC that line “the first President to lose a war” was a Nixon line. While LBJ was looking to negotiate, Kissinger and Nixon were surrepticiously contacting the N. Vietnamese using “private diplomacy” to undermine the Johnson administrations efforts.&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;I’d forgotten about that…probably psychological suppression.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The “October Surprise” wasn’t a Bush original! Seems all Evil in American politics begins and ends with Nixon. Why won’t that man stay dead.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-823522"><em>Arnie @ 140</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-823488"><em>raven @ 126</em></a></p>
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I’m sorry Lady Bird passed away but, IMHO, Lyndon was as responsible for the Vietnam War as anyone. …
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<p>IIRC that line “the first President to lose a war” was a Nixon line. While LBJ was looking to negotiate, Kissinger and Nixon were surrepticiously contacting the N. Vietnamese using “private diplomacy” to undermine the Johnson administrations efforts.<br />
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<p>I’d forgotten about that…probably psychological suppression.</p>
<p>The “October Surprise” wasn’t a Bush original! Seems all Evil in American politics begins and ends with Nixon. Why won’t that man stay dead.</p>
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		<title>By: MarkH</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/07/15/worth-your-time/#comment-824117</link>
		<dc:creator>MarkH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jul 2007 03:25:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-823395&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;clamberite @ 36&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Today on Fox News William Kristol used the words-”Betray our troops” when talking about the pullout.  I don’t remember the whole sentence but it was to the effect-The Democrats want to betray our troops by pulling out. …
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&lt;p&gt;Was he speaking Yiddish or German? Whose troops was he saying were being betrayed, the Israeli army? It seems we have too many dual-citizenship Israelis running the show and they’ve lost their respect for America.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-823395"><em>clamberite @ 36</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Today on Fox News William Kristol used the words-”Betray our troops” when talking about the pullout.  I don’t remember the whole sentence but it was to the effect-The Democrats want to betray our troops by pulling out. …
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<p>Was he speaking Yiddish or German? Whose troops was he saying were being betrayed, the Israeli army? It seems we have too many dual-citizenship Israelis running the show and they’ve lost their respect for America.</p>
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		<title>By: nancelot</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/07/15/worth-your-time/#comment-824022</link>
		<dc:creator>nancelot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jul 2007 02:24:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Concerned about Webb…He has not signed on as a co-sponsor to restore Habeas Corpus. What’s up with that? Neither has Schumer.  (Neither has Evan Bayh (D/R-IN)…&lt;em&gt;snark…sometimes it’s hard to tell if he’s a Dem or a Republican&lt;/em&gt;. I just wrote him a letter, as a constituent. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Hopefully this week, the push to get Senators to sign on, will turn the tide on those who are holding back, but Habeas Corpus? C’mon…it’s a no-brainer.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Concerned about Webb…He has not signed on as a co-sponsor to restore Habeas Corpus. What’s up with that? Neither has Schumer.  (Neither has Evan Bayh (D/R-IN)…<em>snark…sometimes it’s hard to tell if he’s a Dem or a Republican</em>. I just wrote him a letter, as a constituent. </p>
<p>Hopefully this week, the push to get Senators to sign on, will turn the tide on those who are holding back, but Habeas Corpus? C’mon…it’s a no-brainer.</p>
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		<title>By: Shell</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/07/15/worth-your-time/#comment-823673</link>
		<dc:creator>Shell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jul 2007 22:10:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Another thing that bugs me no end: That congressman from Louisiana, who got caught with money. Is he guilty? Beats me. Investigate or try him. But no “talking head” — even too many lefty blogs — ever mentions him without saying, “… in his freezer.” So F-ing what?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Would he have NOT broken the law (possibly) if the cash had been in his BANK, or in his SAFE, or in his POCKET? No! It is THE FREEZER that makes the story.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I am so sick of irrelevance.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another thing that bugs me no end: That congressman from Louisiana, who got caught with money. Is he guilty? Beats me. Investigate or try him. But no “talking head” — even too many lefty blogs — ever mentions him without saying, “… in his freezer.” So F-ing what?</p>
<p>Would he have NOT broken the law (possibly) if the cash had been in his BANK, or in his SAFE, or in his POCKET? No! It is THE FREEZER that makes the story.</p>
<p>I am so sick of irrelevance.</p>
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		<title>By: molly</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/07/15/worth-your-time/#comment-823660</link>
		<dc:creator>molly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jul 2007 22:03:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Republicans think once a war is started..it should never end. Miss the killing? It’s always unpatriotic to end a war…conversely…patriotic to start a war. What does that say about their American ideal? No money for US left is patriotic? Tax revolt time.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Republicans think once a war is started..it should never end. Miss the killing? It’s always unpatriotic to end a war…conversely…patriotic to start a war. What does that say about their American ideal? No money for US left is patriotic? Tax revolt time.</p>
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		<title>By: BigMitch</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/07/15/worth-your-time/#comment-823641</link>
		<dc:creator>BigMitch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jul 2007 21:42:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-823424&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Steve-AR @ 64&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;We are going to hear more of the “Stabbed in the Back” as things get worse. I am surprised that Kristol is not more sensitive to that phrase. It is way to early to tell which group the 26% people will blame for the stabbing.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Dolchstoßlegende was very popular in Germany.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;A really good Harper’s piece:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Stabbed in the back! The past and future of a right-wing myth&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.harpers.org/archive/2006/06/0081080&quot;&gt;www.harpers.org/archive/2006/06/0081080&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I guess this comment sums up why I am scared shitless of these fucking fascists.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-823424"><em>Steve-AR @ 64</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>We are going to hear more of the “Stabbed in the Back” as things get worse. I am surprised that Kristol is not more sensitive to that phrase. It is way to early to tell which group the 26% people will blame for the stabbing.</p>
<p>Dolchstoßlegende was very popular in Germany.</p>
<p>A really good Harper’s piece:</p>
<p>Stabbed in the back! The past and future of a right-wing myth</p>
<p><a href="http://www.harpers.org/archive/2006/06/0081080">http://www.harpers.org/archive/2006/06/0081080</a></p>
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<p>I guess this comment sums up why I am scared shitless of these fucking fascists.</p>
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		<title>By: egregious</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/07/15/worth-your-time/#comment-823609</link>
		<dc:creator>egregious</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jul 2007 21:17:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;sagesoure, I think we are going into a period of higher inflation. It’s the only way to pay back our debts internationally, but it will eviscerate our currency.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Hey we didn’t really need a middle class anyway.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sagesoure, I think we are going into a period of higher inflation. It’s the only way to pay back our debts internationally, but it will eviscerate our currency.  </p>
<p>Hey we didn’t really need a middle class anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: sagesoure</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/07/15/worth-your-time/#comment-823574</link>
		<dc:creator>sagesoure</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jul 2007 20:39:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-823486&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;egregious @ 124&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Beware.  People might seek a strong leader here. And what will the human cost be?  Ghostman has voiced similar sentiments.  The response to economic and political chaos which the Bush administration is leading us toward could be a living nightmare.  Let’s think about this possibility in advance.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;That might well be the deliberate program. Create a chaos that seems to require dictatorship. I’ve often wondered if the magic way out of the deficit will be to destroy the value of the dollar, following the model of 1920s Germany, thus evading the consequences of the debt and creating massive social insecurity.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;~~~&lt;em&gt;ModNote: Edited for content to correct attribution.&lt;/em&gt;~~~&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-823486"><em>egregious @ 124</em></a></p>
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<p>Beware.  People might seek a strong leader here. And what will the human cost be?  Ghostman has voiced similar sentiments.  The response to economic and political chaos which the Bush administration is leading us toward could be a living nightmare.  Let’s think about this possibility in advance.</p>
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<p>That might well be the deliberate program. Create a chaos that seems to require dictatorship. I’ve often wondered if the magic way out of the deficit will be to destroy the value of the dollar, following the model of 1920s Germany, thus evading the consequences of the debt and creating massive social insecurity.</p>
<p>~~~<em>ModNote: Edited for content to correct attribution.</em>~~~</p>
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		<title>By: Arnie</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/07/15/worth-your-time/#comment-823563</link>
		<dc:creator>Arnie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jul 2007 20:18:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Raven @ 146&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Look at the character and accomplishments of both.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Raven @ 146</p>
<p>Look at the character and accomplishments of both.</p>
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		<title>By: Margot</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/07/15/worth-your-time/#comment-823562</link>
		<dc:creator>Margot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jul 2007 20:16:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-823449&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;TexB @ 88&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;There’s a local middle school in a very poor neighborhood where some organization has arranged for each student to be given a laptop on the first day of 6th grade, to keep.  The students can dial in to a school district dial-up for internet access.  The same filters for inappropriate content are on that are used on the school district network.  Not sure how much the program costs, but the aim is to give those students access and to smooth out some of the disparities between students at that school and students in wealthier neighborhoods.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Here, there’s a housing project that has after-school classes on how to build your own computer. The kids who particpate get to take the computers home.  The volunteers rely on donated keyboards, computers, etc.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-823449"><em>TexB @ 88</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>There’s a local middle school in a very poor neighborhood where some organization has arranged for each student to be given a laptop on the first day of 6th grade, to keep.  The students can dial in to a school district dial-up for internet access.  The same filters for inappropriate content are on that are used on the school district network.  Not sure how much the program costs, but the aim is to give those students access and to smooth out some of the disparities between students at that school and students in wealthier neighborhoods.</p>
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<p>Here, there’s a housing project that has after-school classes on how to build your own computer. The kids who particpate get to take the computers home.  The volunteers rely on donated keyboards, computers, etc.</p>
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