The thing about the rabid theocratic base of the GOP is that you can't just be against sin: pornography, gayz, and abortion. You have to actively work to stamp it out. If you are in a position to actively work to stamp sin out, and it doesn't go away, then you are not protecting children, families, and fetii. You are, in fact, enabling sin.
So what to make of a GOP PrezCandi who not only didn't stamp out sin in his midst, but served for ten years on the board of directors of a company -- Marriott -- that profits mightily from pornography every year?
Companies like General Motors, Marriott and Time Warner are now making millions selling erotica to America.
Especially when another hotelier -- Omni -- no longer carries porn because its leadership feels porn doesn't sit well with their values. If some chains don't carry porn, why should Marriott? The Mormon church's hometown paper has the goods on Willard "Mitt" Romney:
Romney caught a bit of flack last week because he spent nearly 10 years on the Marriott board and yet never tried to reverse the company's policy of providing pornography on demand, something J.W. "Bill" Marriott Jr., defended in a 2000 letter as being economically important. The corporation controls only a few of the hotels with its name on them.For a presidential candidate who has railed against pornography, this is not entirely insignificant. Even if the subject never came up at a board meeting, one can argue that at least part of the $25,000 plus stock he was paid annually for his board membership came from the money some hotel guests paid for access to the films.
And there is something the Mittster could have done, something other hoteliers have done:
Interestingly, several hotel chains have decided to forego the extra money out of a sense of moral obligation. The Web site cleanhotels.com helps travelers locate these. The site includes what it calls, "The Clean Hotels Pledge."
I'm not entirely opposed to pornography. We have not taken The Clean Hotels Pledge here at chez TSF. But it's important that the folks in Iowa know that the Mittster's not just profited from it -- he's been in a position to do something about it and hasn't. And, look! Some important American Talibangelical leaders are making sure that Iowans do know about the Mittsters' problem:
Tony Perkins, president of the Family Research Council, a leading conservative group in Washington, said: "They have to assume some responsibility. It's their hotels, it's their television sets."
Actually, not all Marriotts have porn. The fancy ones don't:
Ritz-Carlton, the hotel name synonymous with luxury, also does not offer in-room pornography even though it is owned by Marriott International.
But pornography really doesn't harm anybody, does it? Ooops, Willard thinks it does:
"Pornography and violence poison our music and movies and TV and video games," Romney said May 5 during a commencement address at Regent University, the evangelical Christian school run by Christian Coalition founder Pat Robertson."The Virginia Tech shooter, like the Columbine shooters before him, had drunk from this cesspool."
So, Willard (named after the Marriott founder): this cesspool you've profited from at Marriott, is it a problem in Iowa, where social conservatives play a large role (my bold)?
President of the Iowa Right to Life Committee Kim Lehman, who had not heard about the growing controversy, said if true, it would have negative consequences for Romney’s campaign. “If he had the opportunity to protect families and didn’t take the opportunity, he’s going to be viewed as a hypocrite,” she said. “If it’s true if he could have, but chose not to … and to say you’re for families and for children, when you have a tremendous opportunity to take, these are all issues he’s going to be faced with.”
Maybe the Talibangelicals now have a reason other than Mitt's Mormon religion to oppose him. Since it wouldn't be Christian, would it, to make a candidate's religion an issue. It's that he may have profited from pornography they don't like. And the he didn't stop it. Yup, that's the ticket:
“My attitude toward board members is that they are fully responsible,” John Harmer, President of the anti-pornography group The Lighted Candle Society, told [Christian Broadcasting Network reporter and Meet the Press panelist David] Brody. "They knew exactly what they were receiving. I don't think any board member under any rationale could claim ignorance. You're either a board member or not. I can't imagine a board member going a full year and not receiving a revenue report from the company."
John Harmer was Ronald Reagan's lieutenant governor in California, so this is the closest thing to GOP Received Wisdom. Guess it's okay to hate on the Mittster now, Xtianists, since you aren't hating on him for his "wacky religion."
(h/t to The Right's Field which you really want to bookmark and read every day!)
PS On a semi-related note: Dianne Feinstein non-fan, one-time Hunter S. Thompson employer, and pornography impresario Jim Mitchell passed away at 63, of an apparent heart attack, at his home in western Sonoma County.
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Zed?
lolo!
boing - flying forward one-and-a-half somersaults, pike, wee bit of splash
g’evening everyone
excellent post, teddy
So then we should stamp out theocracy. Or theocrats. Or hypocrites. Or all of it!
congrats on the zed, gordon
Suzanne @ 3
Hiya Suzanne!
Poor Mitt. Poor, poor Mitt. Hee hee.
Hi lo
since we are dealing with porn, consider this a gentle reminder that the * is your friend in avoiding the filters
SnarKassandra @ 4
Can’t really stamp out theocrats or hypocrites. What we can do is mock them loudly, publicly, and often.
How many of Brigham Young’s wives were under the age of 16 at the time of their wedding?
Maybe the Deseret News could assign one of their hard-hitting investigative reporters to it.
Why do they care what people do at hotels? Isn’t it between the people and their partner? And maybe God? Why does some prez candidate get to have a say? How stupid!
excellent dive, Suz!
g00d evening, every0ne
(the zer0 is als0 y0ur friend)
So, the President of Iowa Right to Life thinks Willard “Ball-Glove” Romney is a hypocrite? Wonder how he feels about the thrice-married adulterous NYmayor? The mayor who, well, is not a member of Right to Life?
Thanks, Teddy. I let downstairs know - I used to work for an SF atty who did porn defense for the Mitchell Brothers, back in the 70’s.
Suzanne @ 5
Thanks Suzanne. Got it on Ian’s post yesterday, too. Thought I had one earlier today, but not only did I not get it, but it I didn’t even look at the title of the post. Turned out it was bad etiquette since it was the Book Salon. So you can sp*nk me, or perhaps apologize in an infuriating manner. I deserve it ;-(.
EvilDrPuma @ 7
Hard to believe the Big Xtianists have developed an entirely acceptable reason to tell their low-info church-going voters he’s not voteworthy, isn’t it?
This is likely some kind of set-up. I guarantee you that the folks who run the Deseret News are closely and I mean closely connected to the folks who run the Romney campaign.
All of them, Cassie, you brilliant girl; and great dive, Suzanne.
SnarKassandra @ 12
Yes, it is; but we’re talking about people who would turn police officers into peeping toms just to satisfy their witch-hunter’s curiosity about what everybody else is doing in their bedrooms. Stupid is a way of life for them.
SnarKassandra @ 12
He’s actually made some statements, probably wildly unacceptable to the televangelicals, that he’s not trying to impose his views on other adults, and that it would be wrong to impose his own views on the profitability of a publicly held company. It’s another example of flip-flop Double Gitmo Mitt — he’ll say anything he thinks you want to hear.
Evening all. So now we know the meaning of life and the real purpose of the internet. Late night is definitely educational. And I do love it when conservative hypocrites get caught with their pants down.
I believe the Mariott family is Mormon.
TeddySanFran @ 17
If by “hard to believe” you mean “no suspense at all,” then yes….
Gordon I believe the self-spanking you just did is reinforcing that lesson much more than I could ever do. :)
OT but just posted below:
Nancy Pelosi’s office is taking calls (202-225-0100) voting for Impeachment of Bush/Cheney. (Say yes or no to the daily poll. It will be forwarded to the Speaker.) CALL TODAY. At the toll free capitol switchboard 202-224-3121, you can also call your district’s congressional representative to insist he or she support impeachment (e.g., H Res 333)
Choices ain’t too good for right-wing Iowa theocrats, looking ahead to caucus time. Ball-Glove. Smoldering husk of John Sidney McCain III. Pro-adultery mayor of Babylon-on-the-Hudson. And those seven other little fellers. Sad. Oh, the fake NY DA. There’s always him.
EvilDrPuma @ 20
Well it worked well for the in the 16th century.
TeddySanFran @ 21
(opens envelope, reads)
“What does Mitt Romney have in common with every other ‘08 wingnut candidate?”
I wonder if Jackie Treehorn is contributing to Ball-Glove’s campaign?
I thought the Church of Latter Day Saints owned all of the Marriot Hotels. Shows what I know. I wonder what other corporations the church owns?
Just watched Pleasantville with my son. Ponderings on that here, if anyone is interested.
Loo Hoo. @ 31
Bonneville Broadcasting, owner of radio stations in many large cities, including Washington, D.C.
cleter @ 26
Brownback! Who today, someone mentioned on an earlier thread, called for us to bomb Iran now.
Found it:
brkily @ 27
Firepups, to the telephones!
Loo Hoo. @ 31
Dear god, they don’t actually MAKE the pr0n, do they? Oh, mercy…there isn’t actual…video of Governor Ball-Glove, is there?
Loo Hoo. @ 31
KOIT radio in SF, for one.
TeddySanFran @ 34
I think it would be nice if Brownback waited until the generation he’s committing to this fight got a vote on the matter. And I’ll wager Cassie agrees.
cleter @ 26
And I thought I needed a laugh tonight. Where are you next?
TeddySanFran @ 34
I was including him in the seven little fellers. Maybe he can be the fake DAs running mate.
But.. but… if you get rid of all the p0rn, then RNC campaign heads will be forced to roam public restrooms and ask anonymous strangers if they can blo….
Oh, never mind!
Slothrop @ 11
“A New York Times article yesterday makes the connection, between the prosecution of Larry W. Peterman’s video store chain and the size and scope of the pornography business. Peterman’s lawyer, LDS Church member Rany Spencer, decided to investigate the pervasiveness of pornography in Utah county as part of Peterman’s defense. Spencer sent an investigator to Provo’s Marriott hotel to find out about the sex films that could be obtained at the hotel. His investigators also obtained records of how much Utah county residents were using cable and satellite television to see pornography. To Spencer’s shock, they discovered that residents of Utah county bought more pornography per capita than those elsewhere.”
http://www.mormonstoday.com/00.....rn01.shtml
Pretty funny if you ask me ; )
No, the Marriotts show pr0n in their rooms worldwide. The pr0n is more profitable than the minibar in most hotels. And the average length of play for pr0n in a hotel room?
Six minutes.
Great. Now I can’t get that pesky little tune out of my mind. Damn you, TSF!!!
Suzanne @ 35
mailbox is full, but opens again tomorrow at 8:30am EDT.
larue just pointed out downstairs the Capitol Switchboard is closed until tomorrow morning :(
Suzanne @ 46
We always call the local numbers and not the one in Washington.
OK, this seems an appropriate thread to post this little goodie about College Republicans. Such delightful people.
jacqrat @ 41
If they outlaw p0rn then only outlaw will have p0rn, no wait the outlaws have p0rn, but its ok they are republicans.
I just called both numbers….office is closed, and you can’t leave a message…must be a full que. Try calling tomorrow.
Anyone feel free to correct me if I’m wrong.
Fern @ 43
sorry!
Did y’all click through to the Jim Mitchell obit? Here’s my favorite part:
I think you’d get Patriot Act-ed for that nowadays.
TeddySanFran @ 42
Minibars? Minibars with LIQUOR? What the hell kind of Mormon is he?
brkily @ 27
Mailbox is already full! Thanks birkily, I’ll do it tomorrow.
Washington Post Radio is owned and operated by Bonneville Broadcasting.
Oh yes…
TeddySanFran @ 37
Actually, Teddy, KOIT was sold off to Entercomm, another broadcasting corporation based in PA.
KOIT used to be owned by Bonneville. Them’s the mormons.
Cozumel @ 42
That was a landmark case actually. It changed what had previously been the “community standards” bit. I saw it on some cable TV show a few years ago
TeddySanFran @ 42
What happens after the six minutes?
Wow.
So there’s a Sesame Street special, When Parents are Deployed, dealing with the issue.
Way to support those family values, Bush, setting that kind of record for child/parent separation.
Slothrop @ 11
Of his 27 wives, two were 16 and one 15.
Loo Hoo. @ 57
Roll over and go to sleep, the pr*n having fulfilled its purpose for the lonely traveler.
The fastest way to get someone to do something is to tell them they can’t, Coz.
Loo Hoo. @ 57
their parents come into to the room and shut it off
worried sick @ 23
The more the mariott.
Slothrop @ 54
REad this and get scared. .pdf document talking about their new “FM NEWS INITIATIVE“. They are “changing the way news is delivered…” I’ll just bet they are!
Cozumel @ 44
Okay, I’ll buy that, but do they {{{{DANCE!}}}}
Loo Hoo. @ 57
“Clouds and Rain” as the Chinese say.
demi @ 50
Hi Sweets!
SK, you are funny.
cleter @ 52
OK, can’t stop laughing…still…ok, stop…
SnarKassandra @ 62
This outcome being so predictable that nobody bothers to make more than six minutes’ worth any more.
Nice one, Cassie.
EvilDrPuma @ 70
Well, ya see, Alexis and I had our own hotel room when we went tor Corpus, and the TV had a lot of stuff blocked, but …. their room was right next to our room and their TV wasn’t blocked, and ….
jacqrat @ 64
…by delivering it in four-part falsetto harmony.
Suzanne @ 35
Only during business hours, I just got off the phone w/Pelosi!!! :-(
Speaking of porn…..
“Outsourcing Justice? That’s Obscene” - when you go to the Department of Justice website to report an obscene website (let’s just say you have the urge), it directs you to a privately run site run by Morality in Media, an “interfaith organization.”
No, really. I’m serious.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/.....01728.html
Loo Hoo. @ 65
Probably couldn’t even if they wanted to, like us lead-footed former mennonites!
SnarKassandra @ 71
Uh huh.
Mr Marriott got his start selling root beer from a cart on 14th street, in DC. Opened an small shop called Hot Shoppes and the rest is history. My father remembered Marriott’s A&W Root Beer Stand and would tell the story when we went to the Hot Shoppes drive in.
Wow, anybody look at that Clean Hotels Pledge?
The little ’submit’ button is labeled “I so pledge”.
A resource for locating porn-free hotels is in itself pretty harmless, and perhaps even useful.
But this is some nutball shit right here.
Offtopic: why is it that every time I turn on CSPAN today I see Bob Novak’s big fat head?
Years ago I relocated to KCMO ()for a very long year).
My first ‘home’ was a motel on I80 which showed the Playboy Channel.
They showed heavilly edited 80s (this was the 80s) pr0n.
It was a hoot - not unlike a kung-fu movie with all the violent bits cut out.
OT
Did we know that Kate O’Beirne is Novak’s GODMOTHER?? No shit! He just said so on Cspan.
Marriott family values
The $11-billion hotel chain reflects its founding family’s values, says Fortune’s Marc Gunther*.
* (except for the free-flowing pr0n in every room, and a mini-bar stocked to the GILLS with DEMON RUM!)
I like that the Christian Broadcasting Network — that’s Pat Robertson’s outfit — is all over this story. I betcha people got the word in church today (and on the Xtian teevee) that there’s a decent reason for decent people to oppose Double Gitmo Mitt — and it’s not his religion. The Big Talibangelists are really worried about his meetup-with-Jesus-in-Missouri Mormonism not being good for perpetual Real Holy Land War.
This could really help Brownback, especially with Gilmore outta the race.
Sparkles the Iguana @ 81
Their families know each other from way back.
Scary.
marymccurnin @ 84
So THAT’s why his teeth look like that.
Here is the LDS position on po*nography:
Pornography
Pornography is any material depicting or describing the human body or sexual conduct in a way that arouses sexual feelings. It is distributed through many media, including magazines, books, television, movies, music, and the Internet. It is as harmful to the spirit as tobacco, alcohol, and drugs are to the body. Using pornographic material in any way is a violation of a commandment of God: “Thou shalt not . . . commit adultery . . . nor do anything like unto it” (D&C 59:6). It can lead to other serious sins. Members of the Church should avoid pornography in any form and should oppose its production, distribution, and use.
GordonM @ 48
Oh GordonM, this is so sick. This is what the next generation is about? And I’m not a prude, just a person who wants decency.
Chris
VictorLaszlo @ 78
This is just some smart capitalist making a lot of money. Anybody can go into any hotel room and NOT order the porn. There are a lot of stupid people amongst us…
SP (at work) @ 79
It’s only going to get worse. Soon, Novak’s head will get so big and fat that it will occupy all points in spacetime simultaneously, and then we’ll never get rid of him.
VictorLaszlo @ 78
Does seem to be a tad over the top.
Steve-AR @ 59
According to PBS, Brigham Young had fifty wives. Some were widows, apparently.
And some were…
Sparkles the Iguana @ 74
Official photo of BushCo….empty chair.
Goes with the empty suits.
WaPoO chatz tomorrow; questions accepted anytime!
Chief Political Reporter Dan Balz at 11am eastern
“Bush Will Win” author Bloody-Hands Bill Kristol at Noon eastern
Media Reporter Howard Kurtz at Noon eastern
Pollsters Jon Cohen and Jennifer Agiesta on Virginia’s Independent Voters at 2 eastern
Sparkles the Iguana @ 74
Good idea! I feel an urge, and Mitt Romney’s name will be in the complaint.
I will book through CleanHotels.com if it actually means the room and the sheets, etc. will be clean. That’s the only clean I need to know about.
Sparkles the Iguana @ 81
No way. The godparent is supposed to be of a different generation.
“The residents of Utah county bought more pornography per capita than those elsewhere.” quote is so not a shock. The more buttoned down and repressed someone is, the more likely that all that repression will end up driving them to “sin.” I find it funny that Mitt is taking a beating on this though, when there is so much else about him that is horrific, like his views on abortion, or his insane double Gitmo comment. It says something very specific about the state of this country that being a flip-flopping, misogynistic, war mongering dumb-ass fascist Ken doll is okay, but being involved with pornography is bad. Republicans are consistent though, you gotta give them credit.