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Dru @ 6

Louis Prima!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8K1InOOLEsQ

Don’t know if you’ll ever see my reply as this is old thread and it’s late, too, but, hoss, that was way kewl!! *G*

I followed the other Louis Prima clips, too . . . Keely Smith is, um, ALWAYS a delight to watchlisten to. Pure Ital gal, you’d almost think (Smith???) . . . ;-)

Louis Prima was a hoss!!!!

The city has put a fence around the lake to prevent children from drowning and have put in a paved bike path, but it’s still lush and wild. You could almost forget that you’re in the middle of a good-sized city there.

Sorry, the Enterprise. That is the story I saw and after re-reading it..it could mean anything. The “one could expect” or ” a logical conclusion would be..blah..blah” they are lying..I don’t think Cheney has made the decision yet.

sorry, i was away from the computer for awhile.

where i’m at is… i don’t know if they are lying… but i don’t trust them to tell the truth. so, until the carriers are back home, i’m gonna be very concerned.

and i’m going to be pissed at congress for acting irresponsibly.

the truthout post mentions 1/3 of soldiers basically out of commision due to desertion and other factors….deceptive wording there……..i heard on a report that 25% of them are gone for periods of time to take their pay back to their families, because there is no banking system available in iraq right now, so they have to hand-deliver their pay to support their families……

made me think of how that must affect everyone, no banking system right now……..cash or barter i guess……

LS @ 145

I think that is just an “act” to get votes. No real “fundie” would have given the camera the “bird”.

Was that a ‘pre-saved pre-rapture ready’ sign with the extended finger?

Perhaps you’re right.

Over at Balkinization, Jack has a very useful post on the concept of “constitutional hardball” and how the Bushites have played the game. Strongly recommended.

Thanks, burnspbesq. He’s in my top ten list but I hadn’t read that.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/7/14/114222/873

Steve-AR @ 158

There is no more room in a carrier for more people..they need large transports and stage the evac from Kuwait. I don’t think they have a clue about how to withdraw 300,000 plus people from a hostile environment without killing a lot more Iraqi civilians.

I have a bad feeling they’ll be using the carriers for evacuation because they’ll have no other choice. People will be crowded on the carrier decks — it’ll make the choppers-off-the-Saigon-embassy look like a picnic.

The time is running out for our being able to choose the date of leaving. It’s already too late for a clean, non-fighting withdrawal; that hasn’t been an option for two years now.

We’re running out of

Time!! I also think most of the South Asian and Pacific Basin labor will be left to fend for themselves. The Iraqis that worked with the US are doomed..There will be no large immigration like the one following Vietnam.

I just remembered that there’s another reason we might be needing carriers in the Gulf:

How else are we going to get the troops out? Seriously.

Overland’s not an option, aside from the units nearest semi-friendly nations like Turkey or maybe Syria. Ditto for flying them out. If we want to withdraw as many troops as we can, as fast as we can (and the more we withdraw, the less safe those left behind will, so getting them all out and fast will be a priority despite the nonsense we hear about “leaving some behind to fight Al-Qaeda”), we need to use boats. BIG boats. And have them nearby.

Which is another reason for not attacking Iran right now (or anytime in the foreseeable future): Iran can shut down the Gulf anytime it wants, thereby cutting off our main escape route, and there’s not much we can do about it.

Sigh. Yet another reality that wingnuts are incapable of facing. Geography? Infrastructure? Worst-case planning? I’m sure there are sharp minds in the military who are aware of these things but I have no confidence that there is anyone in authority who is capable of listening to informed experts much less comprehending the message.

Phoenix Woman @ 152

I just remembered that there’s another reason we might be needing carriers in the Gulf:

How else are we going to get the troops out? Seriously.

Overland’s not an option, aside from the units nearest semi-friendly nations like Turkey or maybe Syria. Ditto for flying them out. If we want to withdraw as many troops as we can, as fast as we can (and the more we withdraw, the less safe those left behind will, so getting them all out and fast will be a priority despite the nonsense we hear about “leaving some behind to fight Al-Qaeda”), we need to use boats. BIG boats. And have them nearby.

Which is another reason for not attacking Iran right now (or anytime in the foreseeable future): Iran can shut down the Gulf anytime it wants, thereby cutting off our main escape route, and there’s not much we can do about it.

There is no more room in a carrier for more people..they need large transports and stage the evac from Kuwait. I don’t think they have a clue about how to withdraw 300,000 plus people from a hostile environment without killing a lot more Iraqi civilians.

I have a bad feeling they’ll be using the carriers for evacuation because they’ll have no other choice. People will be crowded on the carrier decks — it’ll make the choppers-off-the-Saigon-embassy look like a picnic.

The time is running out for our being able to choose the date of leaving. It’s already too late for a clean, non-fighting withdrawal; that hasn’t been an option for two years now.

We’re running out of