1st ?

LOL That’s a priceless picture that perfectly captures the spirit of the republican party

Got it ! Hooray !

Jane!!!!!!

Glad you put that picture up, Jane. I’m looking for a better resolution version of it for my new screen saver.

I’m not holding my breath for Brian Williams, though.

Jane!

It just kills me everytime I hear a Republican say that the GOP is the party of Lincoln.

Forgot to say hi to Jane. Hope you are well. I love the picture – they can’t even hide their bigotry.

The stranger thing is that Tancredo got a polite Standing O for just having the brass ones to show up. Kinda says something about the Republicans when Tancredo is the one that shows up at a NAACP convention. They have really gone around the bend. Lost all reason and logic.

Twain @ 3

Got it ! Hooray !

That your first 1st?

I got a kick out of Hillary and Obama jockeying for “the black vote,” as MSM likes to put it, at the NAACP convention in Detroit.

newtonusr @ 10

Twain @ 3

Got it ! Hooray !

That your first 1st?

YES

Hi Jane!

Oklahoma kiddo @ 7

It just kills me everytime I hear a Republican say that the GOP is the party of Lincoln.

Problem is, that Republican party no longer exists. It has been hijacked and no one seemed to care enough to fight back.

A commenter on a previous thread posted this but I don’t recall the name (sorry for the Sara Taylor imitation).

Hillary’s claim to “the black vote” is of course through the Big Dawg, whom Toni Morrison famously called “the first black President of the United States.” I wonder what Obama thinks about that.

He was debating himself? Was he standing there with two hand puppets, making them take sides?

Oh my! I wasn’t aware of this. The Feldman guy asks why doesn’t MSM feature this. Ms. Hamsher seems to pose the same question. Very valid questions. I think there’s alot of hay to be made of this.

How about: hey, Hispanic voters…this is what the R team truly thinks of minorities.

This ought to be featured everywhere. And, of course, I don’t buy for a minute the “busy schedule” excuse.

Ghostman

The Republicans exclaiming that the GOP is the party of Lincoln has to be the yardstick by which ’spin’ is measured. Honest Abe, my fave president was a uniter. The Republican Party is the divider party. The wedge party. The liar party. The party of hate.

Me @ 16:

Hillary’c Hillary’s claim

The Soft Bigotry of Compassionate Conservatism

Joe Klein’s conscience @ 14

Oklahoma kiddo @ 7

It just kills me everytime I hear a Republican say that the GOP is the party of Lincoln.

Problem is, that Republican party no longer exists. It has been hijacked and no one seemed to care enough to fight back.

It was “hijacked” in 1968 and again in 1972 when Nixon instituted his “Southern strategy” by going after all the racists who famously proclaimed “I didn’t leave the Democratic Party, it left me.”

For myself, as a proud Southerner, I’m damn glad the Democratic Party “left them” and moved away from hate, bigotry and bile. The Republics can have the dregs and hate thank you very much.

Jane,stop this crazy thing!!! (ok,I’m out of Jetson’s mode now,lol)

What a buncha nitwits. But then,when you’re the party of bigots,sexually repressed freak monkeys and criminals,it’s hard to keep that locked away. Let the freak flag fly baby. Heh,indeedy.

Same reason they let the victims of Katrina dehydrate to death and drown right before the world’s eyes. These people are still in power.

They don’t care about non-white people…oh yeah, they don’t care about white people either.

Betcha if it was the CCC they wouldn’t have scheduling problems.

Biodun @ 16

Hillary’c claim to “the black vote” is of course through the Big Dawg, whom Toni Morrison famously called “the first black President of the United States.” I wonder what Obama thinks about that.

Yesterday, Hillary got a big ovation; Obama got a huge, whooping, standing ovation, lasting for several minutes.

Great pic Jane. Congrats on the zed Twain.

Joe Klein’s conscience @ 14

Oklahoma kiddo @ 7

It just kills me everytime I hear a Republican say that the GOP is the party of Lincoln.

Problem is, that Republican party no longer exists. It has been hijacked and no one seemed to care enough to fight back.

That is true. The part that’s so bothersome, once again is the hypocrisy. Reminds of Bush comparing himself to Truman and Churchill.

Kalinikta to you all…. it is after 10pm here and we are heading over to the west side of the island tomorrow.

I bought Christy a Greek/Crete cooking book and taking lots of great pics for our Saturday Pull up a Chair. It has been very hot here and much talk about concern about “warming of the globe”.

ccmask @ 27

Great pic Jane. Congrats on the zed Twain.

Thanks. I can relax now.

Biodun @ 16

Hillary’c claim to “the black vote” is of course through the Big Dawg, whom Toni Morrison famously called “the first black President of the United States.” I wonder what Obama thinks about that.

I am not a Hillary or Obama fan. ;0)

That is hilarious!

Hey, Clarence, Condi, and Colon: Go to hell. Yours truly, the Republican Party.

Would of been EPU’d from the previous thread if I had posted it *g*

Junya’s shorter Progress Report: “Boy o’ boy, is this ever fun! Ah sure wish that ah could’ve issued my own report card when I was in school. Ah might’ve acksually graduated on time. Heck, ah could’ve even got a D in that History class.

Only Junya’s crew could put out their own false report card and screw it up. It ain’t much help being a weasel if your a dumb one.

Oh well…*g*

Mebbe K.O. will cover?

NOT to this article but – - Here is part of the email response (canned I know) rec’d from the Obama camp. I wanted to know where he stands on impeachment. Now I know and another one is off my list.

“America needs to move forward again, and I don’t believe that continuing this era of bitter partisanship is the best course of action. As I travel the country campaigning, I hear the call for a new direction and a change in our politics, a thirst for something more. I don’t believe impeachment answers this call. I believe if we begin impeachment proceedings we will be engulfed in more of the politics that has made Washington dysfunctional. We would once again, rather than attending to the people’s business, be engaged in a tit-for-tat, back-and-forth, non-stop circus.”

AP – Two prominent Senate Republicans have drafted legislation that would require President Bush by the end of the year to dramatically narrow the mission of U.S. troops in Iraq, putting a more bipartisan imprint on congressional disaffection with the war.

Mad Dogs @ 33

Would of been EPU’d from the previous thread if I had posted it *g*

Junya’s shorter Progress Report: “Boy o’ boy, is this ever fun! Ah sure wish that ah could’ve issued my own report card when I was in school. Ah might’ve acksually graduated on time. Heck, ah could’ve even got a D in that History class.

Only Junya’s crew could put out their own false report card and screw it up. It ain’t much help being a weasel if your a dumb one.

Oh well…*g*

He gave himself an “A” during his speech in Cleveland – for the nonexistent pandemic flu preparation. There is none.

Get Tough @ 32

That is hilarious!

Hey, Clarence, Condi, and Colon: Go to hell. Yours truly, the Republican Party.

We’re black??????

Ahgoo @ 35

NOT to this article but – - Here is part of the email response (canned I know) rec’d from the Obama camp. I wanted to know where he stands on impeachment. Now I know and another one is off my list.

“America needs to move forward again, and I don’t believe that continuing this era of bitter partisanship is the best course of action. As I travel the country campaigning, I hear the call for a new direction and a change in our politics, a thirst for something more. I don’t believe impeachment answers this call. I believe if we begin impeachment proceedings we will be engulfed in more of the politics that has made Washington dysfunctional. We would once again, rather than attending to the people’s business, be engaged in a tit-for-tat, back-and-forth, non-stop circus.”

That’s a classic CYA if he is elected and the Repubthugs start a campaign to impeach him for looking at a white woman funny. They can’t say, “Obama did it!”

Get Tough @ 32

That is hilarious!

Hey, Clarence, Condi, and Colon: Go to hell. Yours truly, the Republican Party.

Excellent point; I bet some candidates asked if they could send surrogates and were told no.

Does anyone know whether Tancredo did his “job-stealing immigrants” stemwinder that’s sooooo popular in the African-American community?

From the NYTimes:

Before the Democrats took the stage, the Republican candidates were supposed to speak. But only one responded to the invitation from the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People, Representative Tom Tancredo of Colorado, who got an enthusiastic standing ovation just for showing up.

As he stood alone on the stage, Mr. Tancredo said, “This is my kind of debate.”

Sad statement, that photo is.

But isn’t it the NAACP that Chimpy chumps every year?

Oklahoma kiddo @ 7

It just kills me everytime I hear a Republican say that the GOP is the party of Lincoln.

So, Lincoln would carry the south in 2008?

Biodun @ 41

From the NYTimes:

Before the Democrats took the stage, the Republican candidates were supposed to speak. But only one responded to the invitation from the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People, Representative Tom Tancredo of Colorado, who got an enthusiastic standing ovation just for showing up.

As he stood alone on the stage, Mr. Tancredo said, “This is my kind of debate.”

Perfectly, if inadvertently, summing up the GOP approach to everything: one way or the highway. What is the sound of one debater bloviating?

Jane,

“The Soft Bigotry of Low Expectations…I just can’t imagine why nobody but Tom Tancredo would show up for the NAACP…”

I’m sure Grand kleagle Chief Justice Roberts and his krew would’ve obliged, but they recently soldout their black robes for white sheets, and had nothing else to wear.

Re: Tillman documents per The Gavel:

http://www.speaker.gov/blog/?p=583

Get Tough @ 32

That is hilarious!

Hey, Clarence, Condi, and Colon: Go to hell. Yours truly, the Republican Party.

Telling list. Rs pick example who are traitors to their race.

Lincoln would get his clock cleaned in a GOP primary. He’s be hanging out with Ron Paul outside of the locked forums to which they were not invited.

To be fair, FDR would probably get hosed in a Democratic primary. Too liberal. Smokes too much. Health issues. Funny northern accent wouldn’t play in the South.

http://www.bradblog.com/ reports that Judge tentatively rules that Alameda county must re-hold elections because county officials destroyed records relating to Diebold touch screen voting.

I was surprised to see no mention of this excellent post by Kaplan, in regards to the Progress Report!

http://www.slate.com/id/2170303/

http://www.bradblog.com/?p=4811 better link

If you don’t count the votes, it’s not a democracy. Period.

I wonder if the attendees at the NAACP convention knew this about Tancredo:

The League of the South also invited its own members to attend the event, describing Tancredo as their “guest”.[41]

According to reports, the room in which Tancredo spoke had a prominent picture of Robert E. Lee and was draped with Confederate battle flags. At the closing of the event, men dressed in Confederate military uniforms reportedly began to sing “Dixie”.[42] Several days later, Tancredo came under heavy criticism from a group of Denver ministers for attending the function, which followers of the League of the South also attended.[43]

The party of Abraham Lincoln
Has become the party of Jim Crow!

late to the thread, haven’t read comments yet, so don’t know if anyone said this yet=====

tancredo got a standing ovation, for showing up……..

i like what it says about the people who were there at the conference.

And this one:

Tancredo spoke out on January 25, 2007, against the continued existence of the Congressional Black Caucus, the Democratic Congressional Hispanic Caucus, and the Republican Congressional Hispanic Conference.

Hey, this could be a Steve Winwood song!

“And today you just read that the man was shot dead
By a gun that didn’t make any noise
But it wasn’t a bullet that laid him to rest
But the Soft Bigotry of Low Expectations….”

Superior Court Judge Winifred Y. Smith issued a tentative ruling that the Alameda County Registrar of Voters and Alameda County “have engaged in a pattern of withholding relevant evidence and failure to preserve evidence” necessary to conduct a recount of a hotly contested Berkeley ballot measure. As a result, the Court has signaled its intention to void the election and order the County to place Measure R back on the ballot for a re-vote at the next general election.

Judge Smith will issue a final ruling after the Court hears oral arguments tomorrow (Friday, July 13, at 9:30 a.m. at the Wiley Manuel Courthouse, Department 114, 661 Washington Street, Oakland).

“Judge Smith’s tentative ruling confirms our contention that Alameda County violated its duty to preserve the critical voting machine data that was the focus of this recount lawsuit and election contest,” said Gregory Luke of Strumwasser & Woocher LLP, attorney for the plaintiffs who sought the recount of the vote on Measure R.

The GOP contenders are afraid to alienate their neanderthal good old boy base. Same reason Nascar allows the confederate flags at races.

And also this one:

[Tancredo] was one of only 33 congressmen to vote against the renewal of the Voting Rights Act

Jane-
I live and work with a mixture of Dems and Republicans. Ohio has been hit hard financially during this admin. I think many Republicans voted on emotional or moral issues in recent elections. I have heard some of them say they will not do that this time. Many know they were duped, and need to, in the next election, not fall for the visceral BS. Most everyone I know hates the Iraq war and the incompetence there, and quite a few Rs here really dislike Bush and Cheney.

Ahgoo @ 35

NOT to this article but – - Here is part of the email response (canned I know) rec’d from the Obama camp. I wanted to know where he stands on impeachment. Now I know and another one is off my list.

“America needs to move forward again, and I don’t believe that continuing this era of bitter partisanship is the best course of action. As I travel the country campaigning, I hear the call for a new direction and a change in our politics, a thirst for something more. I don’t believe impeachment answers this call. I believe if we begin impeachment proceedings we will be engulfed in more of the politics that has made Washington dysfunctional. We would once again, rather than attending to the people’s business, be engaged in a tit-for-tat, back-and-forth, non-stop circus.”

Yeah, I don’t want to hear that crap. It’s almost like he’s scolding those of us who really crave justice and the rule of law for not being pleasant in our panic. And I guess our cries for accountability have nothing to do with “the people’s business” and is all part of the “non-stop circus.”

KMA!

Impeachment proceedings would make Washington more dysfunctional. Yah.

I do not like ‘regionalism’ (stereotyping). I do not think this is a constructive concept.

And finally this one:

The song “Dixie” means different things to people, but is the anthem of some white supremacist groups. Tancredo said there’s nothing wrong with anyone singing it “if the spirit moves you, I guess.”

Completely off subject, but:
Conrad M. Black, the gregarious press tycoon also known as Lord Black of Crossharbour, was found guilty today by a Chicago jury of three counts of mail fraud and one count of obstruction of justice. Mr. Black was cleared of nine other counts against him, including racketeering. He is expected to appeal and the judge presiding over the case, Amy J. St. Eve, is expected to allow him to remain free on bail during that process. He could face up to 35 years in prison.

(my emphasis). Fitz’s office prosecuted this clown, and looks like they are not pushing for jail time. What does that say about Fitz’s zeal to see Libby do time while appealing?

Oklahoma kiddo @ 63

I do not like ‘regionalism’ (stereotyping). I do not think this is a constructive concept.

Don’t whine. Everyone in the U.S. hated NYC before 9/11 and everyone’s back to hating it again. It’s a badge of honor for us New Yorkers.

Joe Klein’s conscience @ 14

Oklahoma kiddo @ 7

It just kills me everytime I hear a Republican say that the GOP is the party of Lincoln.

Problem is, that Republican party no longer exists. It has been hijacked and no one seemed to care enough to fight back.

My Reno political group (early Friday morning coffee meeting of Democrats in the middle of Conservativeland), now are 40% former Republicans attending. They are the true conservative. They say their party left them. I held discussion groups at my home and these people are really mad. Yes, they know who the NeoCons are and they are not religious fanatics. I like these people. They are well informed and have a lot to say on issues.

I just can’t take these people anymore. Great diary by KagroX today:

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/7/13/14494/2064

eCAHNomics @ 66

Oklahoma kiddo @ 63

I do not like ‘regionalism’ (stereotyping). I do not think this is a constructive concept.

Don’t whine. Everyone in the U.S. hated NYC before 9/11 and everyone’s back to hating it again. It’s a badge of honor for us New Yorkers.

;0)

“we the People” only includes leaders of our military industrial complex.Funny it was Ike
that warned us about this!

Get Tough @ 65

Completely off subject, but:
Conrad M. Black, the gregarious press tycoon also known as Lord Black of Crossharbour, was found guilty today by a Chicago jury of three counts of mail fraud and one count of obstruction of justice. Mr. Black was cleared of nine other counts against him, including racketeering. He is expected to appeal and the judge presiding over the case, Amy J. St. Eve, is expected to allow him to remain free on bail during that process. He could face up to 35 years in prison.

(my emphasis). Fitz’s office prosecuted this clown, and looks like they are not pushing for jail time. What does that say about Fitz’s zeal to see Libby do time while appealing?

different cases have different facts. In Black’s case there may be genuine issues of law that make an appeal a reasonable proposition. Plus, in Scooter’s case, perhaps Fitz had a hope that Scooter would be cooperative and give up someone higher up.

Thanks, Jane, for recalling this essential Chimpbabble. The irony is resplendant, for when it comes to expectations these days, the GOP is softer and lower than Barry White on Vicodan.

Phoenix Woman @ 57

Hey, this could be a Steve Winwood song!

“And today you just read that the man was shot dead
By a gun that didn’t make any noise
But it wasn’t a bullet that laid him to rest
But the Soft Bigotry of Low Expectations….”

Ah, Steve Winwood. Was listening to the GO album yesterday, one of my oldies but goodies top favorites.

Big Mitch @ 71

Get Tough @ 65

Completely off subject, but:
Conrad M. Black, the gregarious press tycoon also known as Lord Black of Crossharbour, was found guilty today by a Chicago jury of three counts of mail fraud and one count of obstruction of justice. Mr. Black was cleared of nine other counts against him, including racketeering. He is expected to appeal and the judge presiding over the case, Amy J. St. Eve, is expected to allow him to remain free on bail during that process. He could face up to 35 years in prison.

(my emphasis). Fitz’s office prosecuted this clown, and looks like they are not pushing for jail time. What does that say about Fitz’s zeal to see Libby do time while appealing?

different cases have different facts. In Black’s case there may be genuine issues of law that make an appeal a reasonable proposition. Plus, in Scooter’s case, perhaps Fitz had a hope that Scooter would be cooperative and give up someone higher up.

Of course, I am generalizing. And I also agree with your last sentence.

Biodun @ 64

And finally this one:

The song “Dixie” means different things to people, but is the anthem of some white supremacist groups. Tancredo said there’s nothing wrong with anyone singing it “if the spirit moves you, I guess.”

I’m a southern girl going back several generations in New Orleans and that toe tapping tune offends me. I don’t know what different meanings it has. Past toe tapping and catchy, he needs to tell me so I can understand what it means to him.

Dennis Kucinich had a pretty good interview on the Tavis Smiley Show (NPR radio) today. I’ll never be a convert, but he does speak truth on many issues.

i really appreciate the reports from the field that disaffected r’s are getting involved in patriotic discussion about where america should be headed now. keep ‘em comin’ guys, like Milan River and QuakerGirl!!!!!

i seriously believe that NONE of the current presidential candidates qualifies as promising anything but more of the same, including the dems. this is a very dangerous problem.

i liked dodd and was hopeful but he voted for false intel about iran, n’est-ce pas?

eCAHNomics @ 66

Oklahoma kiddo @ 63

I do not like ‘regionalism’ (stereotyping). I do not think this is a constructive concept.

Don’t whine. Everyone in the U.S. hated NYC before 9/11 and everyone’s back to hating it again. It’s a badge of honor for us New Yorkers.

??

I never hated NYC and I’m Southern-fried.

Get Tough @ 74

Big Mitch @ 71

different cases have different facts. In Black’s case there may be genuine issues of law that make an appeal a reasonable proposition. Plus, in Scooter’s case, perhaps Fitz had a hope that Scooter would be cooperative and give up someone higher up.

Of course, I am generalizing. And I also agree with your last sentence.

Not to quote myself, but….

I also think this may show how imcompetent Conyers and his cadre have been during these oversight hearings. Fitz refused their invitation to show up because he cannot obviously discuss grand jury testimony and other interviews per the ethics code.

But, not working on the criminal side, I think that Fitz, who is a stickler for detail and one HELLUVA lawyer, is just waiting for the Dems to get their act together, follow proper protocal/court rules, and get him in their to divulge the content of interviews, to the extent that he can per criminal/prosecutorial ethics code.

CNN just covered the NAACP (Republican) debate. A CNN contributer (I think his name was Roland Martin – not positive) said the GOP is afraid of Black people, and Rudy had a terrible track record with African Americans so it wasn’t surprising he didn’t show up.

I meant to argue with the characterization of this issue earlier. I don’t think the Rs have low expectations for their candidates at all. Quite the reverse. Among others, Rs are expected to have nothing to do with throwaway people like African-Americans.

newspaperbrat @ 73

Phoenix Woman @ 57

Hey, this could be a Steve Winwood song!

“And today you just read that the man was shot dead
By a gun that didn’t make any noise
But it wasn’t a bullet that laid him to rest
But the Soft Bigotry of Low Expectations….”

Ah, Steve Winwood. Was listening to the GO album yesterday, one of my oldies but goodies top favorites.

Come down off your throne
and leave your body their bodies alone.
Somebody must change.
You are the reason
I’ve been waiting so long.
Somebody holds the key.

But I’m near the end and
I just ain’t got the time
And I’m wasted and
I can’t find my way home.

Gunga Djinn @ 42

Sad statement, that photo is.

But isn’t it the NAACP that Chimpy chumps every year?

Not a single rethug candidate bothered to show up for the big Latino caucus meeting recently, which drew 100% Democratic attendance. So basically, they’ve rejected women, the young, gays, the working and middle classes, the educated, the poor, Blacks, Latinos… that leaves what? They’re now officially the party of undead and nearly-dead white men.

harriet meirs’ conscience @ 78

eCAHNomics @ 66

Don’t whine. Everyone in the U.S. hated NYC before 9/11 and everyone’s back to hating it again. It’s a badge of honor for us New Yorkers.

??

I never hated NYC and I’m Southern-fried.

You must be the exception that proves the rule. Remember Ford to NYC: Drop Dead! Lotsa schadenfreude when NYC went bust. That’s the most obvious historic example but lotsa anecdotal evidence at other times, like the way NYC got elbowed out of its proportionate share of federal funds for protection against terrorists.

Fiore cartoon on George going to Kamp!

Shannon @ 80

…and Rudy had a terrible track record with African Americans so it wasn’t surprising he didn’t show up.

Abner Louima
Amadou Diallo
Patrick Dorismond

Those names pretty much cover why African Americans have a problem with Rudy.

harriet meirs’ conscience @ 78

eCAHNomics @ 66

Don’t whine. Everyone in the U.S. hated NYC before 9/11 and everyone’s back to hating it again. It’s a badge of honor for us New Yorkers.

??

I never hated NYC and I’m Southern-fried.

Did you hear how all the players from the NY Yankees were booed at the All-Star game, including one who conceivably the greatest player of all time, A-Rod. (Though they had a wonderful tribute to another NY player who started and ended his career in NY, i.e. Willie “Say-Hey” Mays.

punaise @ 76

Dennis Kucinich had a pretty good interview on the Tavis Smiley Show (NPR radio) today. I’ll never be a convert, but he does speak truth on many issues.

Indeed! A devout Catholic Kucinich continues to beautifully articulate the separation of Church and State on the abortion issue. I appreciate his leadership on impeachment of Cheney as well, FWIW.

Did any of the Republicans attend the LIVE EARTH concerts? I doubt it. They are too busy calling madam.

Gop-The League of Gentlemen Callers.

dakine01 @ 87

Shannon @ 80

…and Rudy had a terrible track record with African Americans so it wasn’t surprising he didn’t show up.

Abner Louima
Amadou Diallo
Patrick Dorismond

Those names pretty much cover why African Americans have a problem with Rudy.

He wishes that their names covered the subject. Unfortunately, he has to deal with dissing Dinkins and the Borough President of Manhattan, who also was an African American. (And who he dissed in unmistakable ethnic tones.)

Ghostman @ 18

Oh my! I wasn’t aware of this. The Feldman guy asks why doesn’t MSM feature this. Ms. Hamsher seems to pose the same question. Very valid questions. I think there’s alot of hay to be made of this.

How about: hey, Hispanic voters…this is what the R team truly thinks of minorities.

This ought to be featured everywhere. And, of course, I don’t buy for a minute the “busy schedule” excuse.

Ghostman

Ghostman, I don’t buy that excuse either. Imagine if this same photo was taken at…Bob Jones U.
Can you imagine the howling from newscasters and pundits?
Those candidates would unclutter their schedules real quick.

of course, I meant “Unfortunately for him”

newspaperbrat @ 89

punaise @ 76

Dennis Kucinich had a pretty good interview on the Tavis Smiley Show (NPR radio) today. I’ll never be a convert, but he does speak truth on many issues.

Indeed! A devout Catholic Kucinich continues to beautifully articulate the separation of Church and State on the abortion issue. I appreciate his leadership on impeachment of Cheney as well, FWIW.

I agree with the convert aspect of your post, but it is sad that the political spectrum has drifted so far to the “right” that Kucinich is radical.

The Founders would back Kucinich. A true man of the age of enlightenment/reason.

Fitz notches up another one: Link

Conrad M. Black, the gregarious press tycoon also known as Lord Black of Crossharbour, was found guilty today by a Chicago jury of three counts of mail fraud and one count of obstruction of justice. Mr. Black was cleared of nine other counts against him, including racketeering.

Well, we know that Blacks, Latinos, gays and immigrants aren’t real Americans according to Rove’s race-baiting, gelding-voiced enforcer Brad “The Schloz” Schlozman.

-GSD

Get Tough @ 93

I agree with the convert aspect of your post, but it is sad that the political spectrum has drifted so far to the “right” that Kucinich is radical.

The Founders would back Kucinich. A true man of the age of enlightenment/reason.

notable quote from DK, when asked about the left-right spectrum and how can he be a viable candidate without playing to the center: his response was “truth is at the center”.

echoing your sentiment, it’s sad that this makes for merely good rhetoric rather than political reality.

Word is the NAACP should have held their debate in a sleazy mens restroom.

That would have guaranteed a capacity Repubican crowd.

-GSD

the Borough President of Manhattan, who also was an African American. (And who he dissed in unmistakable ethnic tones.)

Virginia Fields…

AZ Matt @ 94

Fitz notches up another one: Link

Conrad M. Black, the gregarious press tycoon also known as Lord Black of Crossharbour, was found guilty today by a Chicago jury of three counts of mail fraud and one count of obstruction of justice. Mr. Black was cleared of nine other counts against him, including racketeering.

I understand why there’s a lovefest on FDL for Fitz, as he’s the only one who’s drawn even an ounce of blood from the W gang. And he’s a real straight shooter. But remember: in Plamegate, he let the big one get away, and seemingly ditto in the Black case. From what I’ve read today, Black was convicted on the 3 or 4 least important charges. So let’s have some perspective–he doesn’t walk on water.

Fitz must’ve thought the Black verdict was coming today – he wore his black suit.

In a presser that just ended, responding to a question about whether mistakes were made in the prosecution of Conrad Black:

“Since I didn’t do any of the work, I didn’t make any mistakes.” (half smile)

British journalist asking about forfeiture:

Fitz: “I feel your pain.” [forfeiture is confusing]

http://www.chicagotribune.com/…..eaking-hed

Get Tough @ 65

Completely off subject, but:
Conrad M. Black, the gregarious press tycoon also known as Lord Black of Crossharbour, was found guilty today by a Chicago jury of three counts of mail fraud and one count of obstruction of justice. Mr. Black was cleared of nine other counts against him, including racketeering. He is expected to appeal and the judge presiding over the case, Amy J. St. Eve, is expected to allow him to remain free on bail during that process. He could face up to 35 years in prison.

(my emphasis). Fitz’s office prosecuted this clown, and looks like they are not pushing for jail time. What does that say about Fitz’s zeal to see Libby do time while appealing?

I do not see where it says Fitz is not pushing.
The article says the Judge is expected to allow him to remain free.

who also was is an African American.

Margot @ 91

Ghostman @ 18

Oh my! I wasn’t aware of this. The Feldman guy asks why doesn’t MSM feature this. Ms. Hamsher seems to pose the same question. Very valid questions. I think there’s alot of hay to be made of this.

How about: hey, Hispanic voters…this is what the R team truly thinks of minorities.

This ought to be featured everywhere. And, of course, I don’t buy for a minute the “busy schedule” excuse.

Ghostman

Ghostman, I don’t buy that excuse either. Imagine if this same photo was taken at…Bob Jones U.
Can you imagine the howling from newscasters and pundits?
Those candidates would unclutter their schedules real quick.

Perfect material for Keith, Jon and Colbert.

Big Mitch @ 87

harriet meirs’ conscience @ 78

??

I never hated NYC and I’m Southern-fried.

Did you hear how all the players from the NY Yankees were booed at the All-Star game, including one who conceivably the greatest player of all time, A-Rod. (Though they had a wonderful tribute to another NY player who started and ended his career in NY, i.e. Willie “Say-Hey” Mays.

I must confess, I am sports-retarded. But, anyway, Ms. Manners would say that is not a nice thing to do! Shame on them!

harriet meirs’ conscience @ 78

eCAHNomics @ 66

Don’t whine. Everyone in the U.S. hated NYC before 9/11 and everyone’s back to hating it again. It’s a badge of honor for us New Yorkers.

??

I never hated NYC and I’m Southern-fried.

Not me. I’ve always loved New York and still do. Whenever I go there I am wound up for weeks later. I feel good just from the energy and dynamics – not to mention the shopping even if it is mostly look-see shopping.

Biodun @ 64

And finally this one:

The song “Dixie” means different things to people, but is the anthem of some white supremacist groups. Tancredo said there’s nothing wrong with anyone singing it “if the spirit moves you, I guess.”

I’m pretty sure any ’spirits’ moving to this tune are wearing white sheets.

-GSD

eCAHNomics @ 47

Get Tough @ 32

That is hilarious!

Hey, Clarence, Condi, and Colon: Go to hell. Yours truly, the Republican Party.

Telling list. Rs pick example who are traitors to their race.

As opposed to Democrats who consistently betray the class interests of their constituents.

Not that any of them are working class any more it would just be nice to see them come out for meaningful measures to help the working class like fixing that truly brutal bankruptcy law they acquiesced in.

eCAHNomics @ 99

AZ Matt @ 94

Fitz notches up another one: Link

I understand why there’s a lovefest on FDL for Fitz, as he’s the only one who’s drawn even an ounce of blood from the W gang. And he’s a real straight shooter. But remember: in Plamegate, he let the big one get away, and seemingly ditto in the Black case. From what I’ve read today, Black was convicted on the 3 or 4 least important charges. So let’s have some perspective–he doesn’t walk on water.

I couldn’t agree more.

LS @ 46, the Tillmans will be heard on this. They are not about to move on for which I honor them. KO will undoubtedly “special comment” it.

Get Tough @ 93

newspaperbrat @ 89

Indeed! A devout Catholic Kucinich continues to beautifully articulate the separation of Church and State on the abortion issue. I appreciate his leadership on impeachment of Cheney as well, FWIW.

I agree with the convert aspect of your post, but it is sad that the political spectrum has drifted so far to the “right” that Kucinich is radical.

The Founders would back Kucinich. A true man of the age of enlightenment/reason.

Listening to Thom Hartmann the other day and he talked about how today, Eisenhower would be considered a liberal because of his policies. Just shows what the Goopers have done to political discourse since the 80’s and I blame them completely. Every day, they sicken me more.

I understand why there’s a lovefest on FDL for Fitz, as he’s the only one who’s drawn even an ounce of blood from the W gang. And he’s a real straight shooter. But remember: in Plamegate, he let the big one get away, and seemingly ditto in the Black case. From what I’ve read today, Black was convicted on the 3 or 4 least important charges. So let’s have some perspective–he doesn’t walk on water.

True enough, but at least he had the intestinal fortitude to take on bushco even if it wasn’t on a level we would have liked.

newspaperbrat @ 88

punaise @ 76

Dennis Kucinich had a pretty good interview on the Tavis Smiley Show (NPR radio) today. I’ll never be a convert, but he does speak truth on many issues.

Indeed! A devout Catholic Kucinich continues to beautifully articulate the separation of Church and State on the abortion issue. I appreciate his leadership on impeachment of Cheney as well, FWIW.

So do I. Every time he speaks I thank him. He is unwavering and consistent in his message. I’m not confused on where he comes from. What more can I ask than clarity on a position!

Biodun @ 102

who also was is an African American.

But is she still the Borough President?

Get Tough @ 93

newspaperbrat @ 89

Indeed! A devout Catholic Kucinich continues to beautifully articulate the separation of Church and State on the abortion issue. I appreciate his leadership on impeachment of Cheney as well, FWIW.

I agree with the convert aspect of your post, but it is sad that the political spectrum has drifted so far to the “right” that Kucinich is radical.

The Founders would back Kucinich. A true man of the age of enlightenment/reason.

Indeed.. My politics conforms with Kucinich’s 98% according to a recent survey..

I agree that the shift in “Perception” of the last 30 years has made our country a radical fascist state reviled by the rest of the World.. Therefore Kucinich comes off as radically left..

He reminds me of Jimmy Carter..

Soft spoken wisdom

QuakerGirl @ 105

harriet meirs’ conscience @ 78

??

I never hated NYC and I’m Southern-fried.

Not me. I’ve always loved New York and still do. Whenever I go there I am wound up for weeks later. I feel good just from the energy and dynamics – not to mention the shopping even if it is mostly look-see shopping.

Gosh, all this love from what I meant to be just a wry comment! Shows what a wonderful, unusual place is FDL.

eCAHNomics @ 66

Oklahoma kiddo @ 63

I do not like ‘regionalism’ (stereotyping). I do not think this is a constructive concept.

Don’t whine. Everyone in the U.S. hated NYC before 9/11 and everyone’s back to hating it again. It’s a badge of honor for us New Yorkers.

F*cking A!!!

“I’m looking for a better resolution version of it for my new screen saver.”

Oh, just GUFFAW!

See you guys later….going home.

Big Mitch @ 113

Biodun @ 102

who also was is an African American.

But is she still the Borough President?

No. Scott Stringer is. My point is that she is still living…

GSD @ 97 – Too funny! But will there be diapers?

Big Mitch @ 113

Biodun @ 102

who also was is an African American.

But is she still the Borough President?

Think she termed out. Current is Scott Stringer.
http://www.mbpo.org/

Get Tough @ 65

Completely off subject, but:
Conrad M. Black, the gregarious press tycoon also known as Lord Black of Crossharbour, was found guilty today by a Chicago jury of three counts of mail fraud and one count of obstruction of justice. Mr. Black was cleared of nine other counts against him, including racketeering. He is expected to appeal and the judge presiding over the case, Amy J. St. Eve, is expected to allow him to remain free on bail during that process. He could face up to 35 years in prison.

(my emphasis). Fitz’s office prosecuted this clown, and looks like they are not pushing for jail time. What does that say about Fitz’s zeal to see Libby do time while appealing?

Where are you getting your info from??

“Eric Sussman, the chief federal prosecutor, indicated the government would ask for at least 15 to 20 years’ jail time.” (Reuters)

eCAHNomics @ 116

QuakerGirl @ 105

Not me. I’ve always loved New York and still do. Whenever I go there I am wound up for weeks later. I feel good just from the energy and dynamics – not to mention the shopping even if it is mostly look-see shopping.

Gosh, all this love from what I meant to be just a wry comment! Shows what a wonderful, unusual place is FDL.

Well, I just have to say it now:

IIIIII *HEART* NEW YOOOOORK!!!

CNN’s Toobin and O’Brien just blew off the Miers contempt of Congress as no biggy…no danger to her.

I realize that thees ees OT, but seence we appear to be dreefting that way, I hope I shall be forgeeven for taking jour attencion momentarily.

Put Jour Money Where Jour Meow Ees:

Consider Suburban Guerilla, and Susie Madrak more particularly, as a spectacular investment for hard-earned dolares that joo do no just wanna geeve away to another weaselly democratic consultant.

¡Vamanos!

Go and be generous, and know that every bloggera that joo care for on earth means one less litterbox joo have to clean een Gato Purgatory.

Es verdad.

?Hokay?

GSD @ 97

Word is the NAACP should have held their debate in a sleazy mens restroom.

That would have guaranteed a capacity Repubican crowd.

-GSD

LOL!!

eCAHNomics:

See me @ 121. *g*

dakine01 @ 86

Shannon @ 80:
“…and Rudy had a terrible track record with African Americans so it wasn’t surprising he didn’t show up.”

Abner Louima
Amadou Diallo
Patrick Dorismond

Those names pretty much cover why African Americans have a problem with Rudy.

Yeah, but don’t forget he never showed up to Black people in New York before those atrocities either. He’s not dodging now, he’s just displaying his old contempt on a broader stage, knowing it will play to the “base.”

Don’t whine. Everyone in the U.S. hated NYC before 9/11 and everyone’s back to hating it again.

Really? What a relief!

[in regretful exile …]

Biodun @ 64

And finally this one:

The song “Dixie” means different things to people, but is the anthem of some white supremacist groups. Tancredo said there’s nothing wrong with anyone singing it “if the spirit moves you, I guess.”

I guess Mr. Tancredo would have no problem with this then:

“The next auditioner, Gary Johnson (Morris), claims to have written several songs. He performs one of his songs, “I’m Gonna Get Me a Shotgun and Kill All the Whiteys I See.” When he, too, tries to molest Thompson, the guards drag him off, but Maury says he has a “wonderful sense of rhythm.”

http://tviv.org/Saturday_Night…..eil_Sedaka

harriet meirs’ conscience @ 123
From you, thanks. But if it came from the actual Harriet Meirs, I’d reject the sentiment!

harriet meirs’ conscience @ 126

GSD @ 97

Word is the NAACP should have held their debate in a sleazy mens restroom.

That would have guaranteed a capacity Repubican crowd.

-GSD

LOL!!

Maybe they all had to stay home to explain to their wives about all those weird phone calls they keep getting.

Hokay, back on topic, I must say that I find myself confoos-ed that Tancredo, of all the GOPiggies, was the one to show up.

?Deed he have a “sistah soulja” moment?

?eh?

Toobin on CNN Situation Room just stated Harriet Meyers stonewalling will succeed by running out the legal clock to the end of the Bush term. ;~(

newspaperbrat @ 133

Toobin on CNN Situation Room just stated Harriet Meyers stonewalling will succeed by running out the legal clock to the end of the Bush term. ;~(

I’d like to hear Turley respond – and you know he will.

LS @ 124

CNN’s Toobin and O’Brien just blew off the Miers contempt of Congress as no biggy…no danger to her.

And just WHAT do these people consider to be NEWS?

(I know, I know, stoopid question)

eCAHNomics @ 130

harriet meirs’ conscience @ 123
From you, thanks. But if it came from the actual Harriet Meirs, I’d reject the sentiment!

I’m dropping that handle tomorrow. Yesterday I was michael chertoff’s gut. I’m stopping after today (errrhmm, or at least until another one falls into my lap!).

Don’t be too hard on poor Brian Williams, Jane. Remember, he has to compete with a guy named Vinnie who writes a blog in the Bronx.

Breaking News:

McCain announces his newest campaign fundraising intitiative.

A blow-job-athon.

-GSD

harriet meirs’ conscience @ 136

eCAHNomics @ 130

harriet meirs’ conscience @ 123
From you, thanks. But if it came from the actual Harriet Meirs, I’d reject the sentiment!

I’m dropping that handle tomorrow. Yesterday I was michael chertoff’s gut. I’m stopping after today (errrhmm, or at least until another one falls into my lap!).

Awwww rats! I’m gonna miss harriet meirs conscience – but if you must make a change how about Laura Bushs alter ego?

If yu are in AK tune into 1080 AM

Slothrop @ 137

Don’t be too hard on poor Brian Williams, Jane. Remember, he has to compete with a guy named Vinnie who writes a blog in the Bronx.

Funny thing – he now has a news writer blogging on his Daily Nightly blog twice a week posting about breaking news stories on blogs. And the writer – Chris Colvin – I don’t know if it’s a man or woman – does a pretty decent blogroll roundup. I usually leave a comment there, and Chris’s editor left a comment on my blog about the role that blogs play in pitching stories to the Nightly News casts.

So complain Williams does, but his staff is using blogs to beat the competition. Chris cited Josh Marshall’s stories as an example.

newspaperbrat @ 133

Toobin on CNN Situation Room just stated Harriet Meyers stonewalling will succeed by running out the legal clock to the end of the Bush term. ;~(

toobin’s a tool: and NOT a constitutional lawyer EITHER.

what scares me is that dem politicians are listing to this shit.

depressed, again.

newspaperbrat @ 139

harriet meirs’ conscience @ 136

I’m dropping that handle tomorrow. Yesterday I was michael chertoff’s gut. I’m stopping after today (errrhmm, or at least until another one falls into my lap!).

Awwww rats! I’m gonna miss harriet meirs conscience – but if you must make a change how about Laura Bushs alter ego?

I know this sounds weird from someone who was michael chertoff’s gut, but that is just too creepy to contemplate! (((shudder)))

Back on subject-the GOP knows that you don’t need the black or latino vote to win in most areas of the country. You need the white vote. White people are still the majority of people in this country and enough, if not most, are closeted or open bigots who will not vote for a woman or for a black man for President. Heck, JFK had a tough time getting in becuase he was Catholic and I’m pretty sure Gore would have won by a land slide in 2000 if he hadn’t a)run away from his own record and b)put a jewish person on his ticket. No one knew who Lieberman was then, but his religion was a topic mentioned on the news quite frequently. Talk of the first Jew to hold high office dominated discussion about Lieberman. Obama and Mrs. Clinton have almost zero chance of winning the next election. The Dems are nuts to be running experimental campaigns at this stage of the game. Al Gore needs to get in, or Edwards and/or Richardson (most people don’t realize Richardson is hispanic) need to gather steam or you will be watching the swearing in ceremony of President Romney.

Nequals1 @ 141

Slothrop @ 137

Don’t be too hard on poor Brian Williams, Jane. Remember, he has to compete with a guy named Vinnie who writes a blog in the Bronx.

Funny thing – he now has a news writer blogging on his Daily Nightly blog twice a week posting about breaking news stories on blogs. And the writer – Chris Colvin – I don’t know if it’s a man or woman – does a pretty decent blogroll roundup. I usually leave a comment there, and Chris’s editor left a comment on my blog about the role that blogs play in pitching stories to the Nightly News casts.

So complain Williams does, but his staff is using blogs to beat the competition. Chris cited Josh Marshall’s stories as an example.

maybe that’s WHY Williams is complaining? just a little adjustment anxiety?

Lawyer Smith @ 144

Back on subject-the GOP knows that you don’t need the black or latino vote to win in most areas of the country. You need the white vote. White people are still the majority of people in this country and enough, if not most, are closeted or open bigots who will not vote for a woman or for a black man for President. Heck, JFK had a tough time getting in becuase he was Catholic and I’m pretty sure Gore would have won by a land slide in 2000 if he hadn’t a)run away from his own record and b)put a jewish person on his ticket. No one knew who Lieberman was then, but his religion was a topic mentioned on the news quite frequently. Talk of the first Jew to hold high office dominated discussion about Lieberman. Obama and Mrs. Clinton have almost zero chance of winning the next election. The Dems are nuts to be running experimental campaigns at this stage of the game. Al Gore needs to get in, or Edwards and/or Richardson (most people don’t realize Richardson is hispanic) need to gather steam or you will be watching the swearing in ceremony of President Romney.

ReElect President Gore and Vice President Edwards in 2008!

They were there ten years during the sanctions and they are actively there now. From Peter Lems:

Peter Lems
American Friends Service Committee
1501 Cherry Street, Philadelphia, 19102

http://www.afsc.org/Iraq

Peace for Iraq must ultimately be built by Iraqis.

It is not for voices on the outside to determine what specific steps Iraqis should take in building their shared future. Much of the situation in which Iraqis now find themselves, however, stems from causes outside the country, and non-Iraqi supporters of a just peace can play an important role in helping to shape a framework that promotes unity, peace, and reconciliation.

It is essential to proceed with the understanding and the clear admission that the United States is a party to the Iraq conflict and an occupying power, not an “honest broker” or a peace-keeping force. Attempts by the U.S. government to portray the U.S. presence in a different context are blind to both the history of the situation and the reality on the ground, and further complicate any efforts to engage in legitimate practical peace efforts that could provide real results for Iraqis and their neighbors.

While effective advocacy to end the U.S.-led occupation of Iraq is both strategically and morally necessary, it is insufficient. It is imperative that those who desire a peaceful future for Iraq take steps now to support Iraqis in pro-active peace-building work. Such efforts must be forward-looking and constructive, building on Iraqis’ many strengths to promote personal and collective healing, amplifying home-grown efforts at reconciliation and supporting Iraqis to rebuild their lives, even as they rebuild their society and its infrastructure.

It will begin with education and advocacy within the peace movement.

LS @ 124

CNN’s Toobin and O’Brien just blew off the Miers contempt of Congress as no biggy…no danger to her.

I like Mark Kleiman’s suggestion that, rather screw around with the likes of Miers or Taylor, Congess should supoena Shooter. After all, since the VP’s office “isn’t part of the executive branch”, he’s not protected by executive privilege.

Way late to this thread.
@Ed*ward Teller re: better pic -
If you go to Feldman’s page and click on the photo, it will take you to orig. Detroit News(?)
Anyway, it’s better resolution. Still a little cluttered with the flags, but easier to see Tancredo standing all alone.

Apologies if this has already been posted. Having computer troubles.

Lawyer Smith @ 144

Back on subject-the GOP knows that you don’t need the black or latino vote to win in most areas of the country. You need the white vote. White people are still the majority of people in this country and enough, if not most, are closeted or open bigots who will not vote for a woman or for a black man for President. Heck, JFK had a tough time getting in becuase he was Catholic and I’m pretty sure Gore would have won by a land slide in 2000 if he hadn’t a)run away from his own record and b)put a jewish person on his ticket. No one knew who Lieberman was then, but his religion was a topic mentioned on the news quite frequently. Talk of the first Jew to hold high office dominated discussion about Lieberman. Obama and Mrs. Clinton have almost zero chance of winning the next election. The Dems are nuts to be running experimental campaigns at this stage of the game. Al Gore needs to get in, or Edwards and/or Richardson (most people don’t realize Richardson is hispanic) need to gather steam or you will be watching the swearing in ceremony of President Romney.

If your premise was true, why’d they step on their weenies by trying to suppress the non-white vote in so many parts of the country? Hello, Gonzales 8??

And in 2 terms, what does ignoring the minority vote get the Republicans? They will lose the fastest growing segments in this country while the group that they are catering to so desperately is dying off from attrition.

If Romney or some other white Republican male were the winning ticket, why aren’t they drawing more money in donations? Heck, they possess more capital than all the minority folks on the other side; the money says a lot more than polls do, since money donated is a commitment and not mere talk.

Lastly, I think you need to check the demographics one more time. There are more women in this country than men; if they decide they’ve had enough as a voting block, whomever they choose with win. And it’s going to take a lot more than a head of hair to pull that vote.

mc @ 129

Biodun @ 64

And finally this one:

I guess Mr. Tancredo would have no problem with this then:

“The next auditioner, Gary Johnson (Morris), claims to have written several songs. He performs one of his songs, “I’m Gonna Get Me a Shotgun and Kill All the Whiteys I See.” When he, too, tries to molest Thompson, the guards drag him off, but Maury says he has a “wonderful sense of rhythm.”

http://tviv.org/Saturday_Night…..eil_Sedaka

IIRC Garret Morris said that he got the idea for that song from some grandmotherly old (white) lady who sang it as “Gonna ge me a shotgun and kill all the N***S I see”

Rayne – White people are not dying off from attrition and they are still an overwhelming majority in this country comprising 77.1% of the population in 2000. It will be hundreds, if ever, of years before any other racial group would come close to challenging that majority and only if white people stop having children altogether, which I don’t think will happen. Suppressing the black vote in some areas, which they only targeted a few areas last election, can help in election districts with a large enough minority and White Dem base to defeat the GOP candidate. Also, quite frankly, like any bully, I think they do it because they can. I think it is part and parcel of the GOP game plan and has been for a long, long time.
Yes, women outnumber men. The category of women includes women of all colors, not just white ones and there are enough Libbie Dole’s out there, if not a majority of white women, to prevent women from ever being a meaningful voting block as a group for one party or the other. Plus, women as a whole are a very narrow majority, and I suspect many of them follow the lead of the men in their family when it comes to voting. Call it sexist if you want but I’ve seen enough of it first hand. If women ever started a woman only party and EVERY woman voted for it without defection, then, yes, they could turn an election. Do you think every woman will vote for Mrs. Clinton? Neither do I. Bill Clinton, yes, Hillary, no. It really doesn’t take more than a head of hair for many, does it?

Also, money donated for primaries doesn’t mean that much – come general election time, I think you’ll see the GOP machine pony up plenty of dough for its candidate.

It kinda makes sense – Tancredo’s only issue, really, is immigration, and african american voters are being actively targeted by anti-immigration forces as having the most to lose from competition for low-wage unskilled jobs.

And by the way, of that 77.1% of white Americans, 8.1% are of hispanic ethnicity, (hispanic is ethnic, not a race in census data), which gives you an idea of how far the hispanic poulation has to go. Consider that of the remaining 23% of the country that are non-white only 12.9% identify as black and you can see there is a pretty insurmountable hill for minorities to climb. That’s why I scoff at people who think immigration is in any way changing the “face” of America.

Just unbelievable.

Ahgoo @ 35

NOT to this article but – - Here is part of the email response (canned I know) rec’d from the Obama camp. I wanted to know where he stands on impeachment. Now I know and another one is off my list.

“America needs to move forward again, and I don’t believe that continuing this era of bitter partisanship is the best course of action. As I travel the country campaigning, I hear the call for a new direction and a change in our politics, a thirst for something more. I don’t believe impeachment answers this call. I believe if we begin impeachment proceedings we will be engulfed in more of the politics that has made Washington dysfunctional. We would once again, rather than attending to the people’s business, be engaged in a tit-for-tat, back-and-forth, non-stop circus.”

I guess he doesn’t realize Bush is standing in the way of “the people’s business” getting done.

Oh well, senator of Illinois isn’t such a bad gig.

eCAHNomics @ 66

Oklahoma kiddo @ 63

I do not like ‘regionalism’ (stereotyping). I do not think this is a constructive concept.

Don’t whine. Everyone in the U.S. hated NYC before 9/11 and everyone’s back to hating it again. It’s a badge of honor for us New Yorkers.

Don’t tell me how I felt about NYC. Some of the niftiest things which ever happened in my life happened while I was there.

I won’t say I Luv NYC, but I certainly don’t hate it and never did.

tbsa @ 111

I understand why there’s a lovefest on FDL for Fitz, as he’s the only one who’s drawn even an ounce of blood from the W gang. And he’s a real straight shooter. But remember: in Plamegate, he let the big one get away, and seemingly ditto in the Black case. From what I’ve read today, Black was convicted on the 3 or 4 least important charges. So let’s have some perspective–he doesn’t walk on water.

True enough, but at least he had the intestinal fortitude to take on bushco even if it wasn’t on a level we would have liked.

He did the best he could with a deck that was stacked against him from the start. I don’t think any of his critics could have done better.

What people ignore is that he’s not going up against Joe Blow. He’s going up against people with indefinite access to the best lawyers on the planet — and with friends in high places. And all the whining about “he didn’t get ‘em on all charges” is beside the point. In order to fight against a guilty man with the best lawyers on the planet, you need to file every charge you can think of in case the perps weasel out of the main charges; this is quite common among prosecutors.