Every time I watch Bill O’Reilly’s lame “correction” of his insanely misbegotten reportage about pistol-packing gangs of lesbians, I feel like I’m watching an art form taking birth.
It’s a form of the non-correction correction, a direct descendant of the non-apology apology. But it has a certain high-art quality, a gambit so outrageous you can’t help but kind of stand back and admire it in frustration.
I mean, there was O’Reilly mouthing platitudes about how there was never any intent to demonize gays and lesbians (really? then what was the intent?) and conceding that “maybe we went a little too far” in suggesting that what they had found constituted some kind of ominous national trend. At the same time, he was adamant that “this was a legitimate story.”
Well, no, it wasn’t. Even the greenest J-school student would have examined the basis for the story — an assault on a man in New York in which dubious assertions were made on all sides, a garbage piece of reporting at a Memphis station for which the station itself later issued a correction and an apology, and a report about 8th-grade bullying in Philadelphia that had nothing to do with gangs — and concluded there was no “there” there. Had the student proceeded, an “F” would have been the outcome.
But not in the insane Bizarro Universe that is Fox News and, for that matter, the larger Beltway pundit class. In a normal world in which the standards of integrity and accuracy reigned supreme in journalism, O’Reilly long ago would have been recognized as a buffoon and laughed out of the business. At the very least, a significant correction acknowledging every facet of the false reportage would be both broadcast and posted on the Fox News website and given prominent display. This is especially important, ethically speaking, in cases in which a minority group is exposed to demonization and ridicule as a result of the bad reportage.
Instead, what we get are scenes like this: the godlike media pundit, rather than concede that nearly every facet of a report he broadcast as credible was in fact a grotesque fantasy built out of whole cloth, conceding minor points but claiming general accuracy in spite of these “flaws.” O’Reilly also claimed that Fox posted a correction on its website, but if it did so, it is difficult or impossible to locate. (I’ve searched the site thoroughly as well as Googled for the “correction” and have come up dry; if any readers can find it, I’d appreciate it.)
Moreover, in watching all this, I get a little shudder of deja vu mixed with a dread sense of prescience: We’ve seen this before. And you know what? We’re gonna see it again. We most recently saw this with CNN Lou Dobbs in his bizarre non-correction for his misbegotten reportage on disease and immigrants, including his confrontation with the Southern Poverty Law Center’s Richard Cohen and Mark Potok.
The similarities are striking — indeed, in observing these two prominent instances, along with a number of similar incidents over the years, it’s clear that they have a distinct form, as though cut from an identical mold. Because of that, it’s possible to actually distinguish these kinds of non-corrections from the standard fare, which typically constitute simply ignoring one’s critics. They appear, in fact to be an elaborate kabuki ritual, with certain steps, costumes, and bows required along the way:
– The feint. This is the “correction” itself, such as it is. Typically this requires the pundit to suggest that some minor transgressions, none of which even potentially affected the overall thrust of the reportage, occurred.
– The assurance. This involves the pundit assuring both his interlocutor and his audience that he is well-intended and decent, and therefore any minor errors that occur along the way are perforce inconsequential. (Typically delivered with a smarmy, thoroughly insincere sincerity.]
– The defense. Here, the pundit produces some kind of half-fact, mischaracterization, or non-sequitur that serves to stake the claim that the overall thrust of the reportage is perfectly accurate, no matter to what extent it was built upon the foundation of errors or falsehoods previously admitted. Indeed, the more the reportage was built on those errors, the more ferocious the defense. This part of the ritual is almost always delivered in a bullying, petulant, intimidating tone, which makes the previous smarminess all the more clearly phony.
– The attack: The interlocutor is at this point accused of engaging in the same kind of error and smear tactics, forcing him to defend a point that has nothing to do with the pundit’s own rotten journalism.
So far, most of these dance rituals also seem to include false claims of having run a normative correction of the original error; both Dobbs and O’Reilly mentioned such corrections in their “corrective” broadcasts for which no evidence of their actual publication appears to exist.
It’s possible, thus, to construct a definition:
- The kabuki correction: A non-correction by a member of the pundit class in which the pundit engages in an elaborate dance around the facts of his false reportage and never actually touches on those facts or even admits their existence, and winds up accusing his critics of bad-faith behavior in turn. The dance involves an acknowledgement only of lesser wrongdoing, typically involving a distortion of the original offense, accompanied by assurances of moral superiority on the part of the pundit, and finishes with a bullying turnabout in which the accuser becomes the accused. It usually is performed by a major pundit whose power within the media framework is such that their peers, as well as lesser media figures, are inclined to overlook the offense and accept the “correction” at face value.
The genuinely poisonous aspect of this behavior is in its gradual spread among the rest of the media. Once someone like O’Reilly or Dobbs performs this dance successfully, it becomes a model for the rest of the pundit class, as well as a kind of permission for running even the most outrageous nonsense as credible news.
Mainstream journalists love to pontificate about the lack of credibility of the blogosphere, constituted as it is of a pack of dirty fucking hippies with no ethics. But within their own ranks, this kind of journalistic rot is not only ignored, but condoned. But this is the very reason the political blogosphere exists: because of ordinary citizens’ growing outrage over the behavior of our supposedly “fair and balanced” media. And as long as the powerful pundits who hold the media megaphones are allowed to just dance their ways around any kind of accountability, to lie and smear without consequence, its importance will continue to grow.
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zed
Bingo!
Zunoed? YAY.
sooooo sweet.
Howard Dean!
back one and a half somersaults with one and a half twists in the free position
g’evening everyone – excellent post, David.
Big Mitch @ 1
OOPS. Foiled again!
Suzanne @ 6
Agreed! Any splash, Suz?
msmolly, thanks for noticing there was no splash
Good post, David! The media’s adaptation of the sarcastic “oops, my bad”…
beautiful dive, Suzanne
Is there some kind of legislation that could be required here? Like, can we have standards for journalists like we have standards for doctors or lawyers such that someone posing as a journalist could be the lawyerly equivalent of disbarred?
Can we have some kind of “truth in labeling” legislation prohibiting a program from being described as “news” unless it meets certain standards?
Bob in
HIWIGood evening dear friends.
Great post.
Reminds me of a letter I once saw from a 6th grader apologizing for the fact that the adult he was addressing had chosen to be offended by his (student’s) behavior.
She made him try again and focus on his behavior.
In deference to our guest poster tonight, can we try to keep comments on topic for at least a little bit and save our off topics for Late Late Nite?
Dusty and Martha – no pistol packin to it.
Suzanne @ 14
*sputter*
Who says there’s going to be a Late Late Nite?
Please send said journalists here to the lake to meet us!
Howdy TRex!
Suzanne @ 14
Are you inferring that mistakes were made? /wink/
Suzanne @ 6
9.9 from the judge on the left coast.
This is what happens when you eat bad falafel while watching lesbian biker chick porn.
Kids – let this be a warning.
I have never thought the American public is stupid. They know precisely what to think of the news. Much more of this pundit class stuff, and people will will vote with their feet, and the fat cats who profit from the state-run media will find themselves without enough numbers to afford their fat offensive pundits. They will be left with empty buildings, office furnature, and no sponsors. I say, the sooner the better. They do no service now. It’ll get kinda suspicious when they’re running all Army Strong commercials. Specially when no one is watching. And if you say nothing for long enough, people will get sick of you and cancel their subscriptions, or turn off their cable TV.
We’ve got a Kabuki government – I’ve given up expecting more from our media (though I truly don’t consider Faux News media). The only exceptions – Keith O & Schuster.
cynic @ 22
The only news we watch on TV anymore is Countdown.
I sincerely regret the error I never made.
CapMidnight @ 25
And shame on those who accused you.
TexB @ 17
And we will oh, so politely show them no mercy! Or maybe we’ll show them Marcy…..oh, I’m so sorry. That was worse than a bad joke, but I’d like to see emptywheel get at a couple of this people in a public forum.
CapMidnight @ 25
Clearly, you are the bigger man.
The quality of Marcy is not strain’d.
It falls on us from Heaven like the rain
Does KO and Shuster have a chance of being able to be the start of changing this kabuki theater that is the rest of corporate mainstream media or are we just hosed?
I didn’t follow the gupta v. Moore dust-up on CNN closely like many at the Lake surely have but it would appear to be another example of what David is describing in this post. Please correct me if I’m wrong but wasn’t there *some* piece of information that the guys in the black hats concided they had been wrong on but then continued to blambast Moore in a diatribe in which he had no chance to participate?
Moderately on/t wrt the quality of idjit box product:
Sat tv here runs Moyers at 10 and again on another channel at 11 which I’m watching for a second time. (And isn’t it interesting that both channels chose NOT to run it at 9 when there might be a larger viewing audience?) It makes me sick to think that this level of quality programing is the 100% exception to what is available. God bless Moyers!
Suzanne @ 30
Well, that’s the $64K question, now isn’t it?
I think that the longer they deny us and try to hold us back, the bigger and more sensational the crash will be when we break through.
To the BASTIIIIIIIILLE!!
TRex, so they are banking on denying us and trying to hold us back in the hope that we will give up the fight?
bobschacht @ 12
I don’t think legislation is the answer. I think common journalistic ethics is the answer.
The problem is when ethical journalism conflicts with the wishes of the corporate media conglomerates that pay the bills. I suppose, also a conflict when the corporate media lords don’t care if their so-called journalists overstep the bounds of accuracy and decency because they’ve raised ratings/sold papers.
I remember when I decided not to go into journalism. I felt it would be a difficult struggle to keep my personal opinions and bias out of what I saw. I was afraid I’d go one way or the other – become too polemic, either because of natural bias OR because I was trying to overcompensate for natural bias. I had no idea that I could’ve rode that natural bias into a lucrative career if I was willing to shelve those ethics.
(Suzanne – YGM!)
No doubt Orally’s vitriol “arises” from a little problem he has:
“Help! I’ve falafeled! And I can’t get it up!”
(YouTube-apalooza)
As with so many things associated with Roger Ailes, corruption is the main theme.
TexB @ 24
And Jon Stewart (seriously.) and PBS Washington Week in Review (old habit)
I realized that I would never go into journalism when they told me I wasn’t allowed to write like myself. “Noooo, noooo!” they cried, “Your grammar may be perfect, but your ideas are too strange! Go awaaay, strange Theropod! Awaaaaaayyy!”
So, naturally, I beat a hasty retreat to the English Department.
bobschacht @ 12
Seems to me there was some sort of lawsuit emanating, I think, from Florida (no surprise there) involving reporters at a Fox affiliate being fired for not wanting to broadcast lies, i.e., not writing their copy to please the forked-tongued managers.
And I think the outcome was a judgement against the reporters with the result that the media corporation (according to the court) has the right to lie to its audience.
Charming, no?
[Thank you David, for another great post here at the Lake. I’m always grateful for the work you do.]
Waccamaw @ 31
Yes, God bless Moyers.
In (deliberately weak) defense of Wolf – he showed Moore smacking him down in repeat, and he has enough power to kill it. Everbody on CNN is under management pressure to toe the line. Some people gleefully comply (Candy Crowley, Suzanne Malveaux), but others resist, at least to a degree.
If KO continues to gain audience, management at other channels will give him competition. Businessmen love money even more than their ideologies. (Though CNN’s management seems spectacularly dumb – adding Grace and Beck when any idiot could see that Fox had that market sewed up.)
Bill isn’t trying to tell the truth.
He’s doing exactly what he wants, which is to confuse people and con them into supporting the GOP agenda.
So in a way, this is a ‘dog bites man’ story. Bill’s lying on behalf of the knuckle-draggers. Well, that’s what he does.
On the other hand, it is important to keep after them and call out every lie.
I’m just wondering: Is there a point when we stop expecting the media to tell the truth?
I’m long since past that point myself. The TV news shows have less credibility than MAD magazine.
Yet the liberal blogs keep trying to take them to task, to point out when they’re wrong and to expect something to come of it.
I’m not necessarily saying that’s the wrong approach, but I’m honestly asking: Is the media broken beyond repair? Are we morons to expect them to inform us? Why would anyone think that they’re suddenly going to stop lying on a daily basis? Is that really a realistic hope?
Mrs. K8! I haven’t seen you since Hector was a Pope! Give me a big hug.
Zennurse was around last night too. It’s like old home week around here.
ok – folks, looks like i made a mistake since TRex is here and not David
resume normal off topic late nite chatter
“I’m very, very sorry that over-sensitive people could ever interpret my statements as ever meaning what they INFER it to mean what,on it’s face, means exactly what it appears” Yes, I did misapprehend a few minor events.”
“Assassination? It was simply a metaphor”, words don’t mean what they say…especially when I have to switch course due to an avalanche of criticism.”
Oh…and “I didn’t really think that carrot-sticks and onion rings are a commonsense icons for male and female genitalia. Anyone who would think that is obviously some sex-crazed fruitcake who has a pathological obsession for Bill Clinton! Me? No???????!!!!”
“You wan’t me to apologize to Valerie Plame? ‘I apologize’, THERE!”
“I’ve done no wrong, the accusations about the sexual affaire with a New Orleans call girl are lies, ALL LIES…besides. After a family problem a few years back this has all been cleared up, I’ve made my peace with my wife and God.I’ve been utterly forgiven. He told me so! And then commanded me to go out and persecute all those sexual perverts in the Democrat party!”
Suzanne @ 43
Whew! It’s affecting our psychology.
In deference to the fact that our guest tonight is a real live journalist (and journalism is the only profession expressly protected by the Constitution) let me pose this question to him:
As people who were on the previous thread know, I am somewhat obsessed by this story:
It was not mentioned on The Newshour nor on Washington Week (both PBS). I don’t know about ABC, NBC or CBS but I know how I would bet. It was carried, quite prominently on KO Countdown. Further, KO said he was going to revisit it in depth on Monday.
My question to you is this: how can we of the progressive blogosphere, (including dirty fucking hippies like myself) influence the MSM to carry this story.
Suzanne @ 43
Hmmm. I already gave you the hint. Mistakes were made, continue your normal chatter. Jeez.
TRex @ 38
Just what I suspected from your Merchant of Venice skewering.
GordonM @ 19
No, he was implying, you are inferring.
Suzanne @ 43
Just in time, Suz. see 46, supra.
GordonM @ 47
Sorry for not apologizing fast enough, Gordon.
Big Mitch @ 46
It was not mentioned on The Newshour nor on Washington Week (both PBS). I don’t know about ABC, NBC or CBS but I know how I would bet. It was carried, quite prominently on KO Countdown. Further, KO said he was going to revisit it in depth on Monday.
My question to you is this: how can we of the progressive blogosphere, (including dirty fucking hippies like myself) influence the MSM to carry this story.
I posted a few days back that I think we should form a PAC or PACs and begin taking out full page open letters in the newspapers.
TRex @ 38
English, I could have sworn it was the Paleontology Dept.!!! ;-)
TRex, honey! Here ya go –
{{{{{{{{{{ *mmmwwahhh* & *smooch* }}}}}}}}}}}
Since I went and got myself a part-time job (part-time being all my body can handle at the moment — I’m fighting overwhelming exhaustion) I’ve been most often limited to reading the terrific postings here at the Lake (and always, always enjoying the ones by you, dear Theropod!) but never getting down to the real fun, the comment sections.
It’s so good to get here again! Missed y’all terribly.
And I feel a tad lonely not being in the Facebook crowd, but the time to learn all that new stuff isn’t at hand — your warm welcome dispels that moodiness, though!
xoxo!
Suzanne @ 51
I guess we know why you’re an Olympic quality diver and not a journalist ;-).
VictorLaszlo @ 41
It is realistic to think the pursuit of truth will enter our Conglomerate Media again. It took them over 30 years to build the “noize machine” by slowly taking over media companies, and changing laws. Look at the influence we’ve had in just a couple of years with virutally no financial backing. In fact, I’ve been quite encouraged by the progress over the last few years. Baby steps…
We’ve got Olbermann kickin much ass. More and more Air America/liberal radio hosts appearing on “mainstream” shows, and even bloggers commenting on the “big” shows (Jane Hamsher, emptywheel, Reddhead have all been on shows just recently). I’d call that progress.
We gotta make sure we keep this ball rollin!
TRex @ 29
The quality of Marcy is not strange;
It falls on evildoers like a train.
Beware when Marcy is in the Weeds!
Bob in
HIWIGordonM @ 55
As I said, Gordon, I’m sorry that I wasn’t fast enough for you with my apology.
GordonM -
And don’t get me started on candy crowheart……..for some reason, she especially sets my teeth on edge. Well, actually, I take that back; almost *all* of them are having an increasingly detrimental effect on my enamel. Used to watch blitzer fairly regularly but he sounds more like chalk screech on blackboard every time I give him another chance.
I thought they were getting rid of grace but channel flipping always proves me wrong.
boxer @ 52
Yes, I recall. But I have some reservations about collecting money for a PAC here while FDL is soliciting contributions so that it can survive. These things are never easy.
Big Mitch –
Could I make a suggestion, even though I’m not a journalist? It occurs to me that I could get on the horn to my local teevee station and my local newspaper and complain loudly, raising hell — WHY AREN’T YOU covering this story!?!?!?!?
Maybe sending it out on the “Spotlight” feature would help too…
What do you think? I agree it needs a big fat profile for the public!
Big Mitch, Harry’s Tillman letter is up at The Gavel. Looks like the National Hurricane Center has been infected as well.
GordonM, the only reason Wolfie repeated the Moore smackdown was ratings – it was good TV. CNN did the same when Darth wife lit into him.
bobschacht @ 12
Lawyers have “truth in labeling” standards?
Jeebus, does Alan Dershowitz know about this?
Sorry for not apologizing fast enough, Gordon.
Now you’ve got it, Suz! You learn so quickly just reading the article above.
Big Mitch: http://speaker.gov/blog/
Mrs K8,
Hogs and kisses. Don’t despair, starting a new job is totally exhausting. All that new stuff makes the brian demand sleep, so it can absorb and classify all the newness and generally knit up the ravelled sleeve.
And speaking of tire, I’m exhausted from setting up my facebook page tonight. Christy’s post from July 9 walked me through the registration anyway. After two hours I have managed tha most basic of profiles and been thwarted at every turn. It seems kind of neat, I suppose, but I haven’t a clue what it will be good for.
Mrs. K8, First, best wishes for a speedy recovery.
Today, I called a local talk show radio station. It airs on a liberal radio station that carried the Al Franken show, Democracy Now, etc. The host, who knows me from previous call-ins went ballistic over this story.
Loo Hoo. @ 62
URL?
HotFlash @ 66
What is your facebook name?
Big Mitch @ 48
Ho! I missed that. And since I may have been the one baiting him into his “skewering”, linky please?
Bob in
HIWIOK, Suzanne, I know when I’ve met my match. You win :-).
When is Moore going mano a mano with Gupta on Larry King again? That was good stuff even though they distorted Moore’s image on the screen.
OT, but Bill Moyers rocked tonight.
Big Mitch @ 60
Yes, I recall. But I have some reservations about collecting money for a PAC here while FDL is soliciting contributions so that it can survive. These things are never easy.
I agree. I think we are saying the same thing. It’s going to take money.
Gilda Radner as Emily Litella perfected the Kabuki correction in the late 1970s. Its migration to the pundit class is shameful.
I, for one, am hoping that President John Edwards will make those three little words “I was wrong” fashionable, if not required, again. We deserve no less.
Big Mitch @ 67
http://speaker.gov/blog/
I read somewhere that CNN posted the Larry King Show pics of Mr. Moore and they were of very poor quality.
Small minded twit heads.
TexB @ 68
HotFlash Firedoglake. I’m too tired to figure out how to get the (f) next to my name here, maybe another night.
GordonM @ 71
It was not a contest, Gordon. It was a simple administrative error that I apologized for. I made a mistake, publicly admitted it and corrected the error. Just not sure what else you expect me to do.
Mrs. K8,
Missed ya lately. Take it easy.
-GSD
HotFlash @ 65
Hot Flash, sweetie! Thanks for the “hogs and kisses” — I do so enjoy bacon with my eggs ;-)
And thank you for the insightful remark on learning new stuff on the job. I’ve been hired part-time to single-handedly manage a “special marketing project” even though I’ve never had marketing training. And I’m setting up a database for the project, even though I’ve never done any such thing before.
Tell you one thing, I’m certainly not BORED with it yet, LOL.
Congrats on the Facebook courage — if I ever make my way in there, I’ll be sure to look you up!
How ya doin’ elsewise?
Howdy. My cable went out as soon as I got home from work. It figures it had to be on a Friday night.
Diane @ 63
I said it was a weak defense. But BillO or Hannity would’ve just cut off his mike. And I don’t really think Lynne’s or Darth’s smackdowns were bad for Wolf. They mostly showed how manipulative the Siths of this administration are.
Put it this way: I don’t think Wolfie is particularly bright or perceptive. But he’s not an egotistical ideologue.
bobschacht @ 70
at 29, supra.
ccmask @ 82
Just look at it as a blessing. Being unplugged a while is great for a human critter.
Big Mitch @ 66
Big Mitch –
Good for you! I get too much adrenaline going when talking on air. I think I’d maybe do better calling our local news programs and asking where there coverage is.
However, I haven’t scoped out the local media channels and newspapers yet — they may actually have coverage of Tillman here, since the team he played for is right here in Arizona.
*comes back in wearing greasy overalls*
Sorry, kids, I was out in the garage tinkering with Late Late Nite. Did I miss anything?
((( suzanne )))
HotFlash @ 65
You’ll find out! It’s easier than I knew to get the blue F after your name, if you have any energy left. Go to the right of this screen and scroll all the way up to the blue meta box that’s under the other colorful info. Login.
GordonM @ 40
making money is their ideology. it trumps everything else ……
Suzanne @ 79
Give me back the negatives? Puuulleeeaaze?
Big Mitch @ 84
Duh! I just saw the M of V on Thursday, and I didn’t pick up the reference!
Thanks,
Bob in
HIWITeddySanFran @ 74
I agree with you, Teddy. It’s very disturbing, though, that Edwards can’t seem to get much coverage — unless it’s about his coiffure. I get the impression that the media conglomerates would like to squash Edwards like a bug.
marymccurnin @ 76
C&L had it.
Always remember when it comes to broadcast/cable media: you are not the consumer. You are the product and your attention is being marketed to advertising executives.
VictorLaszlo @ 41
we like putting sand in their vaseline. it doesn’t stop the buggering but it does irritate them …….
TRex @ 42
TRex; my grandmother used to use the expression “since Hector was a pup’. I’ve asked many people about the origin of that, to no avail. Actually, nobody outside my family that I’ve asked has ever heard the phrase.
Can you clue me in as to the origin?
Big Mitch @ 95
I like the way you put that.
marymccurnin @ 84
Actually, without the internet, it is kind of freaky for me. I ended up watching a 3-hour movie called Padre Pio: Miracle Man. Of course I fell asleephalf way through. My son woke me at 11:30 and said “Mom, wake up, our internet is back”. We are always have shut downs with Comcast.
GSD @ 79
Smooches to you, sweetie!
I won’t overdo it — my body just gives out long before that. Today I was scheduled to go in, but didn’t because I was too fatigued. What’s great is that I have permission to work at home (and even to put in MORE than my 2 days in the office by adding work at home into the mix). They’re very flexible and it’s perfect that way.
I hope YOU are doing well these days [at least as well as can be expected (for us all) living in a high-tech banana republic].
Give me back the negatives? Puuulleeeaaze?
No
I have no idea, honestly. I always figured that Hector must be a really, really big dog.
Big Mitch @ 95
boy, is that ever cogent, and succinct!
i’m going to paste that on my forehead.
Mrs. K8,
Just winding down a vacation at the seacoast in NC.
Exclusive GSD beach photos here.
-GSD
TeddySanFran @ 75
I had a real life Emily Litella moment.
Many years ago, I was an activist on behalf of Jews living in the Soviet Union. I wrote a letter to the editor on the subject, and it was published. The headline was “Soviet Jewlery”
Nevermind. (True story.)
Mrs. K8, always a pleasure when you are at the Lake. Glad you hear from you again.
GSD @ 103
Gotta do something about those knees though, GSD.
yellowdogD @ 96
I’ve heard that expression my entire life and have no idea where it came from. There are so many of those that I would like to understand.
WaPo has Tillman documents story at A-03 tomorrow.
Keith and Craig Crawford dog-whistled to Waxman during Countdown — “Why do you do this on a Friday, dude?” Perhaps, though, Waxman knows the rage that can build on the internet over a weekend, to crash on DeeCee on Monday.
I think this one’s up to us, netroots.
snip
TRex @ 38
Ugh. And the world needs creative, exciting writers who have good grammar and an interesting take on the world. Oh well, it seems you’ve found your niche – a place where you can write what is in your soul and be as weird & strange as you wanna be.
I guess the answer is, if it can be done with a few more honest Dems, to roll back the deregulation that has allowed huge media conglomerates to proliferate and dominate. I figure the media suits are willing to gamble their cred in order to salvage possibility of hanging on to their gains. If the Bushite political dudes will be in a minority for awhile, I suppose the media suits figure they can fudge and cloud things up for the voters enough to hang onto a blocking majority of corporate GOPers and Dems, and wait for the big comeback in a couple of election cycles. They figure they can steer the political landscape towards corporate Dems, or timid Dems, or consultant fearing Dems, as a holding action.
If I were a bigshot media news star, I wonder if I would have the guts to consistently buck the media suits’ orders. Helen Thomas, in a recent interview, acknowledged the that suits issue broad but important orders on very substantive news coverage issues, and from her point of view, it seemed as though it was something she took for granted or accepted as a regular part of then modern corporate news biz. What most corporate news people do today sure beats working for a living. The current schtick they do is pretty easy, I think most people could do it. What the average person lacks are the good looks, the polished enunciation and a lack of complete shamelessness or inability to suppress outrage at the national branch farces and crimes. And what is the reward for going through the motions -celebrity, and millions of dollars. The examples of those who stood up, from Ashley Banfield, to Robert Scheer to Dan Rather (though granted he did commit a big oopsie in how the Bush AWOL was covered, if not the substance), are sobering.
I had a chance to do much more TV watching during the last few days than I usually do. I watched CNN, and compared to what I’ve seen over the last few years, it was much better. It seems to me that they are torn between feeling they have to compete with Fox news, and fearing that if they go too much towards Fox, that they will lose an increasingly disillusioned mainstream audience by surrending all remaining credibility. Still, all in all, a pretty sad performance. The coverage of the Iraqi progress report was particularly sad. They devoted too little time to go over any of the points in detail. Their superficial coverage gave the impression that the positives out of eighteen were solid positives, which I think is very doubtful by any objective standard. More like two or three out of eight, if you read a wider variety of sources. A lot of the coverage was so bried the whole issue was garbles. Unless a viewer were following Iraq very closely, I think it would be impossible to know what they heck the bobble heads were talking about when they mentioned ‘de-Baathefication’ (sp?).
yellowdogD @ 97
hector was odysseus’s dog who lived until his return and then died
GSD @ 103
bwahahahahaha! You too funny!
But you look good in blue.
Hi HI HI HI hi hi HI HI hi HI
Teddy, I have my fingers and toes crossed there is a huge dump on DC over the refusal of the WH to provide subpoenaed documents in the Tillman investigation.
It is up to us to get that story moved from A-03 to the front page above the fold.
Suzanne @ 105
Hey Suzanne! Good to see you, dear lady.
On those occasions when I can open up a thread and scan some comments, even if I’m too sleepy to comment it’s always a pleasure to enjoy your graceful dives. It makes the summer seem cooler.
Hank must not have been a West Wing or he would have know that Friday is trash night.
New posts! Go read them! http://youthinkleft.com/ Me getting mad at the Bush admin for how they treat the troops.
Big Mitch @ 95
They’re *not* getting the attention of a LOT of people; oh, I forgot…….the DFH’s don’t have purchase power so why should it matter? /s
GSD @ 104
Sure you’ve got the right linky there, darlin’?
1st Edition “The Apprentice” book by Scooter Libby on ebay for $150.00 The seller has close-ups of his writings. Scary stuff.
Diane @ 117
Craig Crawford on KO tonight commented on the fact “they must not know how the game is played.”
Hello, Snarkassandra!
Hugs to Mrs. K8!
I haven’t joined the Facebook crowd yet, either. Not sure if I’ll get to it. I’ve been travelling a bit, working more than I expect to for the summertime… I spent most of today working on websites and email, to the point that my wrist is sore! (So, I naturally come here to check out whatsup!)
Time for me to turn in, though. Have a great night at the lake, everyone!
Pat Tillman
NOAA
Surgeon General
The latest from El Presidente Bull Shitio.
It may be that in death Pat Tillman will take down this administration. They just cannot rid themselves of his sweet spirit.
Loo Hoo. @ 122
Howdy Loo Hoo!
Suzanne @ 115
Hi Suzanne – you’re right. This one needs to be widely reported, and we either bombard Brian Williams and the rest, or we all stand on street corners with signs.
This is one that America will not stand for.
Y’know… if David Vitter doesn’t show up for work in the Senate on Monday, I think the Governor should declare the seat VACANT and appoint herself to it. How much time does this guy get to sort things out with his wife, whom he’s isolated from the sordid details that have come out this week?
marymccurnin @ 124
They could never figure how to deal with him. A man, a man’s man, if you will, who lived by principles and not because he was afraid of punishment in the afterlife. (self-edited for sensitivity to the persons of faith among us.)
TeddySanFran @ 127
Maybe his wife already cut him up and he’s at the hospital.
I have also found the perfect silly hats for next years GOPervert convention.
-GSD
The repugs in LA are trying to make a deal with Gov. Blanco. They are going to talk Vitter into resigning in exchange for her appointing another repug.
I’m sorry. But that woman is just not that stupid.
really OT but I was touched by this. Every Friday I read Bouphonia’s Friday Hope Blogging and thru that linked to this story & blog:
“After having to drop out of school due to lack of funds, William Kamkwamba from Malawi decided to learn as much as he could from books that had been donated to his primary school’s library. One of the books detailed how to build a windmill that generated enough electricity.”
GSD @ 130
Those are very funny!
I have to go back and watch the videos on the Michael Moore-CNN flap. What I saw of the exchanges over the last few days was not so much the media distorting, as the use of trivialization and stupid nitpicking in an attempt to discredit Moore. I saw a Dr. Gupta saying that Moore was misleading when he said universal health coverage would make health care ‘free.” Gupta thought the ‘average financially unsophisticated’ viewers would interpret that to mean that the whole program would be totally ‘free’ -like Martians would import that resources to earth. The whole charge was pretty stupid, and I think the ‘average” viewer who was not already a total wingnut would be insulted by Gupta’s assumption.
I did see one outrage. In a promo for Glenn Beck’s show, Beck was treated as if he were a qualified netural authority to referee the Moore-CNN Sicko debate.
Gotta work hard to replace the current political crew with honest progressives at the next election! Break up the media conglomerates. Not sure what current research says on the Fairness Doctrine, but if that would help, bring that back too. But I would trade fairness doctrine for more truly independent and competing media voices.
landofthefree –
Good night and sweet dreams (of a time when justice returns to the land — that’s a pleasant dream, eh?). Take care of that wrist now!
I’ve gotta go heat up a roast chicken for my dear over-time-working spouse who got home so late. And Bill Moyers is on now too.
Hope to look in later.
Love to all Pups and Justice-lovers everywhere!
Suzanne @ 115
I have left a WaPoO comment to that effect, Suzanne.
TeddySanFran @ 127
I thought he was in the hospital?
Glenn Beck clearly has blackmail material on the higher-ups at CNN. How a man with so little charm or talent has gotten so much is dumbfounding at least.
-GSD
Mrs. K8 @ 135
Good night.
Gizmo update.
(Pardon the OT, but folks have asked me to keep them posted of my progress.)
I’ve talked about Judy. She’s a quadriplegic woman at the nursing home where I used to bring Mickey to see her husband before he passed away.
During our 45 minute conversation this evening I was hooked up to Gizmo.
During most of the conversation, my butterfly flew at a near constant of .6hz at an amplitude of 100 mvs.
When I have a laptop I can hook us both up and explore the implications of such voltage. Can Empathy/Healing be transferred between hearts?
Teddy, can Blanco do that?
Big Mitch @ 121
Joint letters co-signed by Waxman and GOPer Davis — perhaps the Friday dump was Davis’s price for signing onto the letters. In any event, it’s up to us now. Henry’s staff knows the internet game; I think we are expected to blow this thing up over the weekend so TradMed can’t ignore it on Monday.
You never, ever know what straw will break the camel’s back until it happens.
SnarKassandra @ 114
Hey Cassie!
wesgpc: I couldn’t leave without noting your comment, and then finding this interesting article I read the other day. Aaron Brown, the ousted CNN Newsnight anchor, did a series of interviews last week. He’s finally done with his contract w/CNN, which forbade him to speak to any media. He addresses some of your points – specifically, how CNN really screwed up for a while because they were trying to out-fox Fox News. You might want to check it out:
Aaron Brown talks about CNNs struggle with the competition from Fox News
Goodnight, all!
Mutant Poodle @ 143
Hi MP! How are you?
Mrs K8, I think you will have a great time. There is nothing like not knowing that claptrap that is taught in schools for letting you see what is actually the case. IIRC, Oilfieldguy had a situation like yours and got wonderful results using (wait for it) observation and common sense. Didn’t have a happy ending for him, though, like the guy who invented the bucket handle.
LooHoo, thanks for the info, which I would *never* have stumbled on by myself, but I seem to have screwed it up somehow. Will try again when not so tired.
Night all. Seems our Prime Minister here wants to sell our Atomic Energy Commission to GE. And he can probably do it, too. Sucks.
So we should be calling our local tv stations bitching (politely of course) about boosh’s refusal to turn over documents in the investigation of the investigation of Tillman’s death.
Not enough time to do LTE but certainly we have enough time to encourage bloggers to blog about it, to voice our complaints about it to our local representatives (even if leaving a voicemail message).
What else can we do to amp this up?
Mrs. K8 @ 135
Thanks – and goodnight to you! (mmmm… chicken…)
I’m still waiting for the land of the free to refer to our nation once again.
nite, for realz
SnarKassandra @ 145
I’m good. Back home, with adorable poodle kayaking pix.
I liked Aaron Brown better than anyone else on CNN. When they partnered him with AC Cooper (I’m not making a joke here) I slapped my forehead.
Loo Hoo. @ 141
I don’t know that she can’t. ;)
Seems to me the Senate’s pretty busy, with war votes and the farm bill and other things. Louisiana deserves full-time representation. Remember, both their Congressmen are effectively sidelined: Jindal’s running for Governor and Jefferson’s off his Committees.
Blanco should try something gutsy. She’s got nothing to lose.
TeddySanFran @ 127
This is a big deal, we have to keep the pressure on. It could go either way, and it’s up to us to make the difference.
Below is the contact information for the Repub. party in La.:
Republican Party of Louisiana
11440 N. Lake Sherwood
Suite A
Baton Rouge, LA 70816
225.928.2998 (office)
225.408.2798 (fax)
as you can see it’s by phone or snail mail only (you can contact them online only if you wish to donate). We need to call or write and demand his resignation. They won’t disregard out of state comments because we’ve had so many people displaced who have not returned. Just say in your call or letter that you are returning soon and if they don’t force Vitter to resign, you will register as a Democrat upon your return. Tell them you prayed about it or something, and throw in a Bible verse about hypocrisy.
Mutant Poodle @ 149
Are your pix online? Or on facebook?
I would love to see Blanco screw Booshbaby. She could appoint Mitch Landreau. Ha!
Suzanne @ 147
We’ve always thought FreewayBlogger had the right idea. Location, location…
Oooh, LooHoo, it worked! My f is there and it works. Does that mean that I have finally become one of the kewl kids? Or is that fewl kids?
And now I’m really going to bed. Night all.
TeddySanFran @ 136
Here’s what I posted on the WaPo blog:
“This White House has jumped the shark if it thinks the American people will put up with this. This story deserves page 1 coverage above the fold. It is OUTRAGEOUS!
“Pat Tillman was a hero and the White House is playing politics with this story to hide its own mendacity.
“Are you going to let them get away with it?”
TeddySanFran @ 142
One would think that all the bales of straw loaded on that camel, it would have expired long ago!!! ;-)
This is interesting, from a diary at Kos:
A man was arrested for carrying 3.5 grams of marijuana, and subsequently used a new defense in court.
In court, the man argued that the federal government only made it policy to provide marijuana to those who need it, but never made it an actual law. Because of that, he argued, all possession laws, whether medicinal or not, should be quashed.
The judge…..agreed….And then threw out the charges
marymccurnin @ 154
Please, not another Landreau…
Great comment, Big Mitch.
Good, Hotflash! I just got help the other night from the good folks here. Now I’m going to check out your page.
Night to Hotflash and other sleepers.
Loo Hoo. @ 159
We had this debate last week, trust me if you don’t live here you can’t understand the politics of getting elected ( difficult even if you do live here).
Loo Hoo. @ 159
Another Mitch sounds good to me.
Okay, I rethought that ‘nother Mitch thing. No more no-chin Mitch McConnells.
Okay, boxer. I’ll have to take your word for it. Isn’t he the one who lost to Mayor Naggin? (sp)
My sister was standing on the corner in New Orleans one windy day and Mitch walked up. He said “What a blustery, blustery day. Just like in Winnie the Pooh.” How can you not like a person like that?
Not a good enough reason to be a senator I know.
When that gas bag starts reporting everytime a “gang” of “straight” people is convincted of assault, rape etc. THEN it will be all right for him to start reporting each time a case of “lesbians” ganging up on someone. The crap here is that violence against gays and against women is so pervasive, that it isn’t even seen as being out of the ordinary and therefore worth of reporting by that big fathead.
Here’s the AP story in the New York Times. Does your local paper get an AP feed? If they do, call tomorrow and ask them when they are running this story.
Why is the White House still keeping secrets about Pat Tillman’s death?.
This one’s really simple and easy to understand.
Gonna go watch Bill Moyers now. I’m sure that will be relaxing.
;)
Loo Hoo. @ 165
Yep. Nagin is a repug in dem clothing. A free market dude. The white power structure in NOLA hates the Landreau family because they feel that Moon Landreau is responsible in part for integration. They wanted Mitch to loose for that reason and that he is seen as a liberal.
Makes my head hurt.
Loo Hoo. @ 72
Evenin’ all !!!
Have you seen all the snark Gupta is being served on his blog and on HuffPo ?
A certain Yogi has been adding his … um … emlightened views as well … *g*
Moyers Time!
TeddySanFran @ 170
ditto, me too.
landofthefree @ 144
A HUGE thank you for posting this. I’ve tried periodically to find out where he landed, but with no success. I hope he will regain his national voice and continue to keep us informed. hmmmmmm ——-msnbc?
TeddySanFran @ 168
This is what my paper has:
marymccurnin @ 166
That is really cool.
Petrocelli @ 172
Hey Amigo! I had just missed you last night!
see ya in an hour
SnarKassandra @ 153
Facebook…
Loo Hoo. @ 165
Yes, and thanks for trusting me, there is no ideal Democratic canidate who can win a statewide election. That’s why this thing with Vitter is such a big deal. Blanco could actually put someone in that is truly progressive. Please, everyone who is sending opinions to MSM on the Tillman thing, take time to send something to the RNC claiming you’re a repub and demanding his resignation. Again, reference God, and throw in some Bible verse about hypocrisy.
*cough, cough*
Gosh, I wonder what’s happening UPSTAIRS?!
I got the Zed!!!
http://www.firedoglake.com/200…..g/#respond
Suzanne @ 115
Amen Suz … this story can cause a great deal of shame on BushCo and the Republican Party
and bring them to their knees (oh boy, what a set- up)… the blogosphere has to take the bit between the teeth …
GSD @ 130
I’ve heard of “Be Prepared” … but this is ridiculous !!! *g*
marymccurnin @ 154
That would be Just Karma !
Sorry I’m late chiming in, everyone. I’m prepping to ride the Seattle to Portland Classic tomorrow and I’ve been off gorging. And alas, because I need to get some sleep, my time here tonight will be necessarily short. I’ll try to answer some of the questions and, if there are more later, I’ll try to chime in tomorrow late, if I’m not keeled over.
Now to
http://www.firedoglake.com/200.....429>Big Mitch, regarding the executive-privilege claim in the Tillman story:Great question, and I agree that this is a story that reeeks like a smegmatic cloaca. However, of course, no easy answers. I can tell you that, locally at least, it doesn’t hurt to call and talk to the ME of your local newspaper, or at least e-mail them, and point it out as newsworthy. Urge other people to do the same. You can create upwards pressure within the news-budget framework sometimes to get national movement on a story; if there are enough MEs inquiring, the AP eventually will start checking on and providing the coverage.
National entities simply ignore nobodies like us, so forget about being able to influence that as Joe Citizen. On the other hand, you can always blog. Really. I mean, what blogs can bring to this story is providing background and context; explaining the law as it pertains to executive privilege (I’m frankly dubious that this would be allowable, though I’m sure the Bushites have some kind of flimsy rationale worked out; these people are all from the Ted Olson school of lawyering) and raising the big question: What does Bush have to hide?
May I also suggest dropping a note to Digby? This thing is right up her alley. But if I can clear out some workspace next week, I’ll give it a shot as well.
In the meantime, hell, start your own blog if you haven’t got one yet. Start putting some of this stuff down. You’d be amazed at what it can do to keep this kind of story alive, at the very least.
Mrs K8,
Same here, and hugs to Mrs. K8, you are missed!
In the early 1950s, Congressman Carol Reece’s Committee studying Foundations for un-american activities first decided they needed to define the term ‘un-American’. The committee finally the defined the term as follows, … to wit: “We defined un-American in our way as being a determination to effect changes in the country by unconstitutional means.”
Your point about the blogosphere beginning to supplant the MSM is quite possibly more prescient than you know. The lack of accountability for much of the utter tripe that passes for MSM content and opinion pieces is creating much the same kind of alternative in the blogosphere that cable originally created for network television. As television continues to fracture its viewership into ever smaller more discrete blocks so goes newspaper readership and cable viewers. I think that it’s only a matter of time before the FAUX News Channel starts to suffer serious declines. Next thing you know THE WALL STREET JOURNAL (if Murdoch succeeds in taking it over) will have a Page Six Girl. Couldn’t happen to a more deserving set of Proto-Fascists.
That is not a Kabuki mask, but a Noh mask.
Totally irrelevant to what you guys are talking about, but just had to show you how smart I am.
Yes, it is a Noh mask…and Kabuki uses make-up instead of masks so there is no such thing as a Kabuki mask (see, I’m even smarter ;-) )
To take this one step further, though, I’ve seen the word “Kabuki” thrown around a lot in blogs to describe the surreal happenings in politics, and I’ve let it go, but since you are attempting to use it as a way to define something, I’m going to step in.
Though its true that Kabuki plots are known for quite sudden and bizarre explanations and changes of heart to bring about conclusions to problems, it should be noted that the originators of these elaborate plots always have to make a sacrifice, whether it be of their own life or that of their loved ones. I would suggest that what you are trying to define here has no inherit risk to the plotter and thus is quite different. Perhaps you would like to come up with a different word to describe it?
Excellent, Dave. But it already has a name.
The Reverse Double Malkin.