Mabel’s Wig Shack @ 82

jesus christ. 50 years in solitary confinement wearing blacked out goggles and earphones blocking out sound and fat mittens so you cant touch anything.

jesus christ.

The sensory-depravation torture methods, that leave no physical signs, were reverse engineered from a CIA program. I think it was started in the 1950s or 1960s, to train CIA operatives how to resist such methods. But now they use it on the enemy. Probably discovered it couldn’t be resisted very effectively.

Myself, I’d prefer physical torture.

There used to be a place on 18th and Fifth, down the block from Paragon Sporting Goods, where you could go and meditate in sensory deprivation tanks in the late 70s early 80s.

I think this whole network of gulags this country is running is providing subjects for further tests on mind control by the CIA based on MKULTRA which began in the ealry 50s and included giving unsuspecting subjects, including agency personnel like Frank Olsen, LSD and other psychedelic and psychotropic agents to observe their behavior.

Much of the techniques being employed in Gitmo and other camps were refined by the Nazis and the Japanese at such places as Unit 731 using American POWs as subjects.

The Bush family, better torture techniques carried out in conjunction with their friends from the original Coalition of the Willing, Nazi industrialists, American bankers, and Japanese scientists.

I have a question: Which Executive Privilege claim do the Dems push back on? Taylor/Meirs, Tillman, RNC, Caging, Cheney’s logs, AGAG,… ad nauseum??? Seriously,WTF???

The Executive Privilege Bush thinks he enjoys with regard to starting wars preemptively without just cause.

We pressure the Senate Repubs until they cry ‘mommy’ and then offer them a little relief if they’ll kick out Cheney and replace him with somebody who understands and respects ‘the Rule of Law’.

Lew, I look forward to reading your insightful accounts. Can King George really do a reverse commutation or is that just a cynical remark? If he could, he would. He’s been unstoppable so far. I am surprised at nothing any more.

He already did. Padilla was kidnapped and kept at Gitmo naked, chained and tortured for about 5 years.

Even if they set him free he’s paid a very heavy price for being a poor Muslim in America.

One of the reasons is just these same self-serving scare tactics by this administration. They want a “War on Terror” as it benefits the contractors that are manufacturing billions of dollars of armaments on the public bill. And they DON’T want reasonable anti-disaster preparation for the same reason…they can profit far more getting Federal sweetheart deals in “reconstruction” AFTER a disaster rather than the PREVENTION of such.

Meanwhile “Terror…Terror….Terror” can be used to distract from the sheer incompetancy of Bush’s FEMA and Homeland Defense appointees…and the vile politicization of the scientific work of the NSA, FDA, Center for Disease Control, etc.

It’s shameless!

Hamdi: The Price of Freedom Is High (scroll down to it)

SnarKassandra @ 5

They tortured this guy for years and years in solitary and all they had on him was an application he did? And he is an American? That sucks so bad!

So, has anybody SEEN this Al Queda application? What the hell does an AQ application look like? Handling an application is an act of war?

This Padilla thing scares me. Anything they can do to him, they can do to you or me. The govt is asserting the power to DISAPPEAR American citizens on American soil.

Such, I believe, was the whole objective. Find some fallguy and make him your precedent. They already have the stripping of citizenship rights by waiver of a native-born citizen on the books.

Lew Koch @ 102

Big Mitch at 93
(re: Torture interfering with Padilla’s right to counsel):
That was argued and lost in the Padilla case

Yes. Is that not a good point on appeal, in your opinion. I would think so.

But wasn’t all evidence obtained during this period excluded?

Big Mitch at 93
(re: Torture interfering with Padilla’s right to counsel):
That was argued and lost in the Padilla case

Yes. Is that not a good point on appeal, in your opinion. I would think so.