Of all the sad spectacles brought to us by Bush Presidency's ongoing collapse, I think that perhaps the strangest and saddest of all must be the spectral form of Peggy Noonan huddled in the bleak chill of this strange new dawn, shivering like Hans Christian Andersen's Little Match Girl as her thousand points of light go out one by one.
I found myself Thursday watching President Bush's news conference and thinking about what it is about him, real or perceived, that makes people who used to smile at the mention of his name now grit their teeth.
Alas, Lady Peggy, mark me well! Pray, ask yourself how it would feel to grit your teeth for six years. Six very, very long (terribly long!) years. Where it's always winter, and never Christmas.
I'm not referring to what used to be called Bush Derangement Syndrome. That phrase suggested that to passionately dislike the president was to be somewhat unhinged. No one thinks that anymore.
I'm going to assume that is as close as you will ever come to apologizing, Madam, therefore I accept. Cos it sure isn't the President who's changed. He is the same twitchy, smirking asshole he was on his first day at Yale.
In fact, do me a favor. Knowing what you know now, go back and watch a press conference from, say, 2004. Watch the smugness, the fatuous nonchalance, the dismissive half-shrugs. ("I've already stopped listening to your question, peasant!")
Then factor in the mangled syntax, the misfired talking points, and the overall tone of pained condescension, "I'll answer your question, but if you weren't so stupid, you'd already know the answer." Once the scales fall from your eyes, Peggy, every word he says makes you loathe him more.
Are you sure you want to go down this path, Ms. Noonan? Because once you attain this dark knowledge, gentle Lady, there is no turning back.
As I watched the news conference, it occurred to me that one of the things that might leave people feeling somewhat disoriented is the president's seemingly effortless high spirits. He's in a good mood. There was the usual teasing, the partly aggressive, partly joshing humor, the certitude.
In the Queen's English, Peggy, we call that "being a dick".
He doesn't seem to be suffering, which is jarring. Presidents in great enterprises that are going badly suffer: Lincoln, LBJ with his head in his hands. Why doesn't Mr. Bush? Every major domestic initiative of his second term has been ill thought through and ended in failure. His Iraq leadership has failed. His standing is lower than any previous president's since polling began. He's in a good mood. Discuss.
Mamaaaaa, he's crazyyyy [/judds]
Seriously, Peg, the guy is a couple quarts low. He's thrown a rod. Call him Ishmael. He has chained himself to the masts and commanded the oarsmen to ply ever onward, even as the ship of state begins to list to one side and ride lower and lower in the water.
Americans can't fire the president right now, so they're waiting it out.
Peggy, my darling, that is where you are wrong. There are clauses in the Constitution that were placed there for just such an occasion. Something about when a Chief Executive uses his powers of pardon to cover up his own crimes, wasn't it?
George Mason (1725-1792), the father of the Bill of Rights (1791-2002), argued at the Constitutional Convention in favor of providing the House of Representatives the power of impeachment by pointing out that the President might use his pardoning power to "pardon crimes which were advised by himself" or, before indictment or conviction, "to stop inquiry and prevent detection."
James Madison (1751-1836), the father of the U.S. Constitution (1788-2007), added that "if the President be connected, in any suspicious manner, with any person, and there be grounds to believe he will shelter him, the House of Representatives can impeach him; they can remove him if found guilty."
Seems pretty clear to me.
But chin up, dear lady. It may not work out for you guys in 2008, but I feel fairly certain that by 2012, you will have found yourselves a new empty suit with a heart made of tar. Some well-connected snake-oil salesman who can mouth the proper platitudes and maybe not get caught with a dead girl or a live boy in his bed.
Shouldn't Damien be old enough to run for office by then?
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Narnia reference. XD
Didja let downstairs know CT? With a link to up here?
I think Peggy has trouble swallowing the truth.
Suzanne @ 4
Most certainly, Ma’am! ;-)
Suzanne @ 6
Nice girls never swallow.
TRex @ 7
Honey, I think you have that backwards.
aliasofwestgate @ 3
Whoa, I missed the reference the first readthrough…I was busily pouring the therapod’s words over my tongue, savoring them. Great post!
Good evening again my friends. Congrats CT.
The times they are a changing
calling for contempt: http://www.nytimes.com/2007/07.....4sat2.html
hey tex
Really? What do I know from girls and blow jobs? Nothin’, dat’s what. Whaddya want from me, blood?
Shadowstalker @ 9
It took me a minute to remember where i’d heard that reference. Then i remembered Lucy…and there it was! An excellent way to describe these last years, sadly. Now all we have ot do is find our Aslan, or do it ourselves.
I have just watched Bill Moyers’ show for this week about why we have to impeach Bush and Cheney now, because if we just wait them out, and they do leave, then the next President, whomever it may be will use the established Presidential right to break the law without consequence. Is that what we want?
Barack Obama is a Leo.
barry @ 15
It is what I want.
barry @ 15
Watching it now. This is tremendous teevee.
Okay, gang. Time to feed. But first I have to run to the store for some smokes.
Did anyone see Moyers tonight. He had on John Nichols and Bruce Fein. It was all about impeaching Bush and Cheney. Congress needs to watch this. Maybe it would educate them and shame them in the process.
TexB @ 10
Thanx, Ma’am! Have ya’ll dried out yet?
Anyone want some cookies and milk? Not sure how I managed to hide them from the kids, but I’ve got enough for all of you.
CTuttle @ 21
Dry and hot.
Do you think Nooner has the goopers pooping in their diapers?
Oh. She’s not a hooker. …Or is she?
CTuttle @ 1
Hot Diggety Dog, Bo … you got zunoed … Woo Hoo
TexB @ 23
Texas is back.
And I am gone. Nite, all. Channeling EDP, be excellent to one another.
TRex @ 16
So is mrbrat - he thinks Obama will end up on Hill’s ticket.
Mutant Poodle @ 26
Sleep well Mutant
I am now thinking that the House Dems don’t have the votes for a contempt citation. Meirs should have had been cited the day she didn’t show..sub-committee > committee > full house..done. The WH would then be forced to get a restraining order and then start the litigation.
But no..nada..from Conyers..Pelosi..I don’t think they have the votes..and if that is true..it’s bad news.
boxer @ 11
I can’t wait to see the WaPo’s response.
BY PEGGY NOONAN
Friday, September 22, 2000 12:01 a.m. EDT
SNIP
Rick Lazio and George W. Bush are Dumb-Good. They aren’t followed by a thick cloud of scandal because they don’t make scandal; they appear to be good, honest men, normal men, maybe too normal. They seem more or less average in their interests, affections, gifts. No one hates them, because they’re not at all wicked. They’re not liars; they’re not thieves; they’re not power-mad, and no one will ever call their wives Evita. They’re good men. But they don’t have first-rate minds; they don’t inspire us with their insights or the brilliance of their understanding of the world. They would never say of an element of welfare reform that it is the biggest abrogation of governmental responsibility since the Corn Laws, as Sen. Daniel Patrick Moynihan once said. They won’t be writing learned monographs any time soon.
Mr. Bush, as we all know, has a tendency to mispronounce words, like a bright and nervous boy trying to show the admissions director that he’s well-read. His syntax is highly individualistic. He’s bouncy and affectionate and funny in a joshy way as opposed to a witty way.
But he is, almost transparently, a good man. He cares about children; he wants government to be honest; he wants to protect his country from bad guys; he wants to stand up for those who protect us. He is a good governor, he has a natural sympathy for those–the hardware store owner and the woman who starts her own housecleaning company–who are taxed and regulated to death in America. He thinks this abusive. He wants to liberate them. If he becomes president–when, I believe, he becomes president–he will drive conservatives to distraction with his tendency to think with his heart, and not his brain.
SNIP
PEGGY ARTICLE ARCHIVE HERE
Go to her archive and see if you can you find a better one. lol
This is a carry over from the last thread, but we can’t sit on the sidelines and watch our hope for getting rid of Joe evaporate. Please speak out anyway you can. We have to force Vitter to resign now, before he regains his footing.
http://blog.nola.com/updates/2.....er_gu.html
Steve-AR @ 28
Christy explained this earlier. There’s a protocol that has to be followed. And they’re following it.
Petrocelli @ 25
Thanx, I checked out your web site, nice graphics, but you need to flesh it out a bit more! You don’t mention any sort of techniques or methodology to nirvana! Just a thought!
newspaperbrat @ 27
I see Gore/Edwards … that is what I “visualize” daily … intelligence, integrity & charm …
Peggy Noonan–4-7-2003:
It is important who he is. George W. Bush is an American of the big and real America. He believes in it all–in the vision of the founders, in the meaning of freedom, in the founding and enduring ideas of our country. He believes in America’s historic insistence on humanity and not inhumanity in war, and he appears to have internalized the old saying that “one man with courage is a majority.”
The Damien link at the end is priceless.
Peggy, gird your loins and suck it up, you brought the Chimp in Chief into power, now you “got to dance with the one what brung ya.”
A Hillary/Obama ticket is fine with me. I would prefer an Edwars/ Obama ticket, but Edwards is fading into the distance.newspaperbrat @ 27
off topic - Odd question. If a person with a disability or disorder or disease is subpoenaed by a court or by congress and is too ill to respond/attend on a particular day, what happens?
Frank Probst @ 33
Where did Christy enumerate the protocol?
xargaw @ 20
… and to listen to the the folks back home.
Dude, whatever you’re drinking this evening, pour me one.
CTuttle @ 40–I just remember it from the liveblogging.
CTuttle @ 34
That’s exactly my intent, to create interest in wanting to learn the techniques and methodology …
… which I impart in my course. If I say too much, there is no more interest in learning … sell the sizzle, as it were … send me your suggestions via Facebook when you have some time … thank you in advance for all your suggestions !
TexB @ 17
Not what I want.
What I want is a banana split.
Loo Hoo. @ 45
Tonight is cookies and milk. Maybe banana splits tomorrow.
TexB @ 39
They can accomodate by Teleconference or Video, like they did with the TB-infected Attorney from his Denver hospital room!
Here’s the most depressing line from Noonan’s article: “Americans have always been somewhat romantic about the meaning of our country, and the beacon it can be for the world, and what the Founders did.”
Note the phrasing on America’s role as a beacon for the world: She says “it can be”, not “it is”. To me, that’s one of the most accurate–and saddest–assessments of the effect of the Bush presidency.
Steve-AR @ 28
Randi Rhodes said they only need a simple majority. THEY HAVE IT AND NEED TO USE IT!
Frank Probst @ 48
It is also the way BushCo frame their statements … how it can be, never how it is … reality is so inconvenient …
I cannot believe some of Peggy’s writings about dear leader. My gosh. How corny they are and it is like she was getting paid for writing them.
Here’s another: Bush-A Modest Man of Faith
11-2-2000: by Peggy Noonan (pre 9/11)
Mr. Bush is at odds with the spirit of the past eight years in another way. He appears to be wholly uninterested in lying, has no gift for it, thinks it’s wrong.
This is important at any time, but is crucial now. The next president may well be forced to shepherd us through the first nuclear event since World War II, the first terrorist attack or missile attack. “Man has never had a weapon he didn’t use,” Ronald Reagan said in conversation, and we have been most fortunate man has not used these weapons to kill in the past 50 years. But half the foreign and defense policy establishment fears, legitimately, that the Big Terrible Thing is coming, whether in India-Pakistan, or in Asia or in lower Manhattan.
Fine Peggy, but instead of “waiting him out”, why don’t you call for his resignation? Is it because you know Cheney would be worse? I’m sure you fought hard to keep up the denial, but now you know and you see the nightmare. What are you going to do about it?
Petrocelli @ 44
Can Do!!! ;-)
Peggy Noonan, after the State Of The Union, early 2003. Her words:
“This, truly, is a good man. And that is a rare thing. Agree with Mr. Bush’s stands or disagree, there can be no doubting the depth of his seriousness and the degree to which he attempts to do what he is convinced is right, and to lead his country toward that vision of rightness. We have had many unusual men as president and some seemed like a gift and some didn’t. Mr. Bush seems uniquely resolved to be as courageous as the times require and as helpful as they allow. There is a profound authenticity to him, and a fearlessness too.
A steady hand on the helm in high seas, a knowledge of where we must go and why, a resolve to achieve safe harbor. More and more this presidency is feeling like a gift.”
A gift. If you can call a flaming bag of dog crap on your doorstep a gift.
Just a heads up for later, around midnight ca time, the servers will be down for between 10 and 20 minutes for some server work.
Hi. I’ve been gorging on Xanadu the musical press and video all night. What have I missed?
Frank Probst @ 43
Oh Well! Ce la vie!!!
I liked TRex’ use of the following:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=LLsT0wtNGGk
Perhaps little ole Peggy is trying to flee from the Fuhrer’s bunker now that the rest of the rats are jumping ship.
I think it’s sad that seven years into the most sadistic president ever, the most corrupt, the most empiric White House, that some of the sycophants finally see the reality that half of us saw in 1999 or earlier… that the emperor never had any clothes.
History will not be kind to G.W.B. He will be known as the worst president ever.
Gavin M. @ 42
Hey Gavin!
Nevorick @ 59
I agree. Noonan just figured out her priest is a pedophile. I’ll judge her now on what she does next.
The way to reaffirm America is to replace the commander-in-chief.
Reaffirm America…
Replace the commander-in-chief.
ccmask @ 51
Per Russ Baker http://www.tompaine.com/articl.....to_war.php
Like TRex said, “[I]t sure isn’t the President who’s changed.”
TRex,
Mr. Rex?
may i call you Tyrannosaurus?
TRex, you once again wield the (exquisite, we presume) pen with a deft adroitness rarely seen in primates let alone in the 60 ft. therapods.
dude, you are so cool And you keep getting better.
here in texas we got six extra years with gov. bush to get our head start on the teeth gritting.
BULLSEYE! Give the Man a cigar!
excellent, just too frigging good: poetry.
[ka-snip like]
i think i’ll have this printed up on cards with “George W. Bush” on the other side and pass them out.
rumsfeld and cheney do the “pained condescension” routine real well too.
thanks, trex.
the teeth gritting isn’t quite a painful as it was before.
and good night
Nevorick @ 59
I would prefer he be known as the only president tried, convicted, and jailed, with the rest of his criminal cabal of co-conspirators.
David did show up after we left downstairs:
David Neiwert says:
July 13th, 2007 at 10:20 pm
Sorry I’m late chiming in, everyone. I’m prepping to ride the Seattle to Portland Classic tomorrow and I’ve been off gorging. And alas, because I need to get some sleep, my time here tonight will be necessarily short. I’ll try to answer some of the questions and, if there are more later, I’ll try to chime in tomorrow late, if I’m not keeled over.
Now to http://www.firedoglake.com/200…..429>Big Mitch, regarding the executive-privilege claim in the Tillman story:
[H]ow can we of the progressive blogosphere, (including dirty fucking hippies like myself) influence the MSM to carry this story?
Great question, and I agree that this is a story that reeeks like a smegmatic cloaca. However, of course, no easy answers. I can tell you that, locally at least, it doesn’t hurt to call and talk to the ME of your local newspaper, or at least e-mail them, and point it out as newsworthy. Urge other people to do the same. You can create upwards pressure within the news-budget framework sometimes to get national movement on a story; if there are enough MEs inquiring, the AP eventually will start checking on and providing the coverage.
National entities simply ignore nobodies like us, so forget about being able to influence that as Joe Citizen. On the other hand, you can always blog. Really. I mean, what blogs can bring to this story is providing background and context; explaining the law as it pertains to executive privilege (I’m frankly dubious that this would be allowable, though I’m sure the Bushites have some kind of flimsy rationale worked out; these people are all from the Ted Olson school of lawyering) and raising the big question: What does Bush have to hide?
May I also suggest dropping a note to Digby? This thing is right up her alley. But if I can clear out some workspace next week, I’ll give it a shot as well.
In the meantime, hell, start your own blog if you haven’t got one yet. Start putting some of this stuff down. You’d be amazed at what it can do to keep this kind of story alive, at the very least.
Wigwam: Peggy was pretty smart in 2000. She nailed the Manhattan terror attack and a missile attack (plane in Pennsylvania), with this statement: But half the foreign and defense policy establishment fears, legitimately, that the Big Terrible Thing is coming, whether in India-Pakistan, or in Asia or in lower Manhattan.
Bitch. I guess good ole Peggy is getting nervous there might be a draft and she has a 20 year old son.
Petrocelli, thanks to the HuffPo info on Gupta/Moore downstairs. Cheers!
Suzanne @ 65
Dingdingdingdingding!!!!!
Suzanne @ 5
she scrupulously avoids anything ….. distateful.
kind of like, the church lady.
As would I. I think we have a 50/50 shot right now, but these dead enders are not in their last throes, they will not give up, and I desperately hope that the GOP Senators realize to save this nation, they will have to break free from the Unitary King and save this nation from the dark cancer that is Bush/Cheney.
TexB @ 46
Thanks. I saw the cookies after the bratty request for the banana split…
Suzanne@65
If I may add to your statement, “I would prefer he be known as the only president tried, convicted, and jailed, with the rest of his criminal cabal of co-conspirators”, convicted in The Hague for crimes against humanity, and summarily hung.
I realize this may not please the anti-death-penaly crowd, but I am marginally one of them. His is a special case, in my opinion.
By the way, great photo Petrocelli!
She is in the same class with Judith Miller. Thanks for calling my attention to her Trex. Seriously, reading through her archives is very telling. It is amazing that a newspaper let her ramble on about Little Boots in every damn article.
Shadowstalker @ 73
Excellent. I think I am going to bow out before the imagery of his hanging gets too graphic.
Good night my friends.
barry @ 15
IMPEACH NOW. it’s the right thing to do.
Bill Moyers says so too.
Loo Hoo. @ 49
I missed the CHS contempt protocol..I just used info from..
The Congressional Subpoena Power: How It Is Enforced
By Big Tent Democrat, Section Law Related
Posted on Sun Jul 08, 2007 at 04:03:01 PM EST
www.talkleft.com/story/2007/7/8/1731/15806
Ten Dems voted against the War resolution..no Repub will vote for contempt..they may not have the votes..In the Senate it would be 60 votes..no contempt from the Senate.
alexandriacynic @ 74
It’s now my background pic. :)
Loo Hoo. @ 68
Gupta made himself a hero of the establishment … only problem is that his statements are based on lies that Moore disproved in 24 hours or less.
Gupta should be sledged in the blogosphere … I hope there will be mass protest in the form of letters to the A.M.A. and to whatever journalist association Sanjay belongs to … he deserves a rap on the knuckles for his sad display !
With D’Souza, Pommuru and Gupta gaining limelight, I recommend to Michael Moore this title for his next book … “Stupid Brown Men” …
See you guys on the flip flop. Tuning in now *poof*
Anyone who has lived in West Texas can recognize the disingenuous wise-ass smirk that indicates the speaker doesn’t give a shit. It indicates that the speaker is shoveling b.s. for the purpose of gaining advantage over someone who might actually care and is therefore weak. It is the smirk that Dubya could not contain when he spoke to the Congress and the nation on Sept. 14. At times I feel that Molly Ivins and I were the only ones to notice it.
This is off topic but I thought for any Patrick Fitzgerald/DOJ fans the Conrad Black verdict today was really huge. You can access the complete news conference held by the prosecutors via this URL where there is a menu of ctv video feeds regarding the verdict and click on the “Prosecutors News Conference” (20 minutes long)Sorry if it’s already been posted. It’s good viewing and demonstrates that at least some rules of law are being upheld.
http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/Arti.....TopStories
I also saw the Moyers program that was incredible well done and an inspiration to resume letter writing/phone calling/emailing to congresscritters to put Impeachment squarely back on the table
neokneme @ 24
Call Girl ……
alexandriacynic @ 74
Thanks … someone sent it to me a while back … can’t remember who it was … *g*
See my wall for my interpretation of the photo.
Lets keep all statements that wish for or reference an unnatural death to a minimum please.
ccmask @ 67
Yup. I find here prescience to be somewhat startling, even suspicious.
Petrocelli @ 86
Would you mail it to me in higher res than I see it on facebook?
Holy shit! I just finished watching Bill Moyer’s journal. I am trembling.
xargaw @ 20
It was great when Nichols said about Speaker Pelosi, “She’s wrong.”
I’m writing her an email tonite to ask her what other sections of the Constitution she thinks she can take off the table. It’s not your job to take anything off the table, lady, and stop acting like it is.
If anyone did not see it, he or she should immediately get up from the computer and set the tivo to see it when it replays.
Amilius @ 82
FWIW, many of us in Canada saw that, as well as Laura’s “Stepford Wife smile” and knew what was coming …
ccmask @ 51
OMG.
Back so soon, Teddy? Me, too.
It lived up to its advanced billing, didn’t it?
Marcy has a post up about the Embarrassment Privilege.