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	<title>Comments on: Could I have &#8220;Presidents Who Couldn&#8217;t Pass 8th Grade Civics for One Hundred,&#8221; Alex?</title>
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		<title>By: rjj</title>
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		<dc:creator>rjj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jul 2007 10:31:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;periodically I do searches for Pierce. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I found this on Altercation:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;She was tough and she was riveting and I needed some transcendence in my life, and she delivered.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;How strange. That exactly is what he does. Wonder if he knows it.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>periodically I do searches for Pierce. </p>
<p>I found this on Altercation:</p>
<blockquote><p>She was tough and she was riveting and I needed some transcendence in my life, and she delivered.</p>
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<p>How strange. That exactly is what he does. Wonder if he knows it.</p>
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		<title>By: rjj</title>
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		<dc:creator>rjj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jul 2007 09:55:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;WHERE IS THE ESTEEMED [!!!!!!] CHARLES PIERCE WRITING THESE DAYS?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WHERE IS THE ESTEEMED [!!!!!!] CHARLES PIERCE WRITING THESE DAYS?</p>
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		<title>By: Youkillednoodle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Youkillednoodle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jul 2007 03:41:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Tell ya what Joe, if we are attacked by suicide bombers in the future, let’s hunt the bastards down and kill ‘m.  They’ll think twice the next time.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tell ya what Joe, if we are attacked by suicide bombers in the future, let’s hunt the bastards down and kill ‘m.  They’ll think twice the next time.</p>
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		<title>By: rhfactor</title>
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		<dc:creator>rhfactor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jul 2007 03:20:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Speaking of HoJo, has anyone heard a term that has popped up over on dKos  tagging Obama as “the Black Lieberman”to beware of with respect to his party principles allegiance?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;(though my comment is for real, this is really a silly test to rate the degree of interaction on these threads, particularly with newcomers who are no part of an established clique. So far, it’s very disppointing that this blog called for serious stepping up to help support the publishing initiatives of FDL, only to then answer the call, and then present a case for discussion on video — and get a few high-fives, but nothing of substance. And Jane has ignored it completely. Is this because she is busy and this is typical in her response patterns? If so, I will be more patient.)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And now back to Black Lieberman. Has anyone heard of this term, and what is it supposed to mean?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;thank you.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speaking of HoJo, has anyone heard a term that has popped up over on dKos  tagging Obama as “the Black Lieberman”to beware of with respect to his party principles allegiance?</p>
<p>(though my comment is for real, this is really a silly test to rate the degree of interaction on these threads, particularly with newcomers who are no part of an established clique. So far, it’s very disppointing that this blog called for serious stepping up to help support the publishing initiatives of FDL, only to then answer the call, and then present a case for discussion on video — and get a few high-fives, but nothing of substance. And Jane has ignored it completely. Is this because she is busy and this is typical in her response patterns? If so, I will be more patient.)</p>
<p>And now back to Black Lieberman. Has anyone heard of this term, and what is it supposed to mean?</p>
<p>thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: dmac</title>
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		<dc:creator>dmac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jul 2007 01:35:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;and still………….no commentary from the elected officials………&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;i find that totally strange, considering what it was they voted on…….&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and still………….no commentary from the elected officials………</p>
<p>i find that totally strange, considering what it was they voted on…….</p>
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		<title>By: Praedor Atrebates</title>
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		<dc:creator>Praedor Atrebates</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jul 2007 00:36:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;To the speculation about Russia and China dropping a big hint, add in the fact that the U.S. financial position is becoming both dodgier and more dependent on China’s buying our debt by the day:&lt;br /&gt;
 In a sign of desperation, the U.S. has dispatched Housing and Urban Development Secretary Alphonso Jackson to Beijing to beg the Chinese to use some of their $1.3 trillion in foreign reserves to buy more U.S. mortgage backed securities.&lt;br /&gt;
 —Peter Schiff&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Please China DON’T DO IT!  Cut us off at the knees!  If you bail us out Bush WILL use it for more war everywhere.  The DEMS will use it for more war everywhere too.  It is better if China were to send in an “inspection” team into Iran and basically have them ’sit’ at the various sites that Bush thinks he is going to attack.  They could be there to ‘advise’ and ‘inspect’ and for ‘cultural exchange’. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;A bunch of Chinese government types all over those targets would be a big impediment for Bush to attack.  They wouldn’t DARE.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>To the speculation about Russia and China dropping a big hint, add in the fact that the U.S. financial position is becoming both dodgier and more dependent on China’s buying our debt by the day:<br />
 In a sign of desperation, the U.S. has dispatched Housing and Urban Development Secretary Alphonso Jackson to Beijing to beg the Chinese to use some of their $1.3 trillion in foreign reserves to buy more U.S. mortgage backed securities.<br />
 —Peter Schiff</p>
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<p>Please China DON’T DO IT!  Cut us off at the knees!  If you bail us out Bush WILL use it for more war everywhere.  The DEMS will use it for more war everywhere too.  It is better if China were to send in an “inspection” team into Iran and basically have them ’sit’ at the various sites that Bush thinks he is going to attack.  They could be there to ‘advise’ and ‘inspect’ and for ‘cultural exchange’. </p>
<p>A bunch of Chinese government types all over those targets would be a big impediment for Bush to attack.  They wouldn’t DARE.</p>
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		<title>By: Praedor Atrebates</title>
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		<dc:creator>Praedor Atrebates</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jul 2007 00:31:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;. Sweet Jesus I hate Joe Lieberman too. And don’t get me started on how the Senate unanimously stood behind Dick Cheney’s bitch and took us one step further to war with Iran. What the hell was that?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I should think the answer is obvious: the Dems want the SAME thing the GOP wants (OTHER people’s wealth and resources) but they just want it for when they are in charge.  They ALL want whatever Exxon-Mobile tells them to want:  Iraq’s and Iran’s oil.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;They’re ALL warmongers and insane.  ALL of them.  That little “harmless” vote (so says Feingold who I have to hold in question now), with all the inflammatory statements in it (as if they are FACT) is a Gulf of Tonkin resolution before there is even a Gulf of Tonkin “incident”.  They expect to receive briefings on how Iran IS messing with Iraq (and attacking the US) and how it is also messing around in Afghanistan helping the Taliban (their sworn enemy) AND Al Qaeda (their doubly sworn enemy).  It begs for “mushroom cloud” and WMD “intel” that simply confirms what Cheney wants it to confirm.  They honestly expect to believe ANYTHING the Pentagon or CIA says about ANYTHING?  They CANNOT be trusted!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;That little harmless vote WILL be used as a stepping stone to attack and ALL the Dems have bought a piece of it.  No excuses, they BOUGHT an attack on Iran.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>. Sweet Jesus I hate Joe Lieberman too. And don’t get me started on how the Senate unanimously stood behind Dick Cheney’s bitch and took us one step further to war with Iran. What the hell was that?</p>
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<p>I should think the answer is obvious: the Dems want the SAME thing the GOP wants (OTHER people’s wealth and resources) but they just want it for when they are in charge.  They ALL want whatever Exxon-Mobile tells them to want:  Iraq’s and Iran’s oil.  </p>
<p>They’re ALL warmongers and insane.  ALL of them.  That little “harmless” vote (so says Feingold who I have to hold in question now), with all the inflammatory statements in it (as if they are FACT) is a Gulf of Tonkin resolution before there is even a Gulf of Tonkin “incident”.  They expect to receive briefings on how Iran IS messing with Iraq (and attacking the US) and how it is also messing around in Afghanistan helping the Taliban (their sworn enemy) AND Al Qaeda (their doubly sworn enemy).  It begs for “mushroom cloud” and WMD “intel” that simply confirms what Cheney wants it to confirm.  They honestly expect to believe ANYTHING the Pentagon or CIA says about ANYTHING?  They CANNOT be trusted!</p>
<p>That little harmless vote WILL be used as a stepping stone to attack and ALL the Dems have bought a piece of it.  No excuses, they BOUGHT an attack on Iran.</p>
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		<title>By: selise</title>
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		<dc:creator>selise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jul 2007 00:00:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-820051&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Eureka Springs @ 152&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;selise, It’s a compiled work that scares the heck out of me.. now if only I can get others to read your fine compilation.. thanks so much.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;zbig is no dummy - this is EXACTLY what he warned us about in january… and for whoever might be interested, i posted an mp3 of zbig’s testimony before the senate foreign relations committee (&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.netrootsmass.net/resources/Congressional_Committee_Hearings/page29/page29.html&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;, scroll to item 3)&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-820051"><em>Eureka Springs @ 152</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>selise, It’s a compiled work that scares the heck out of me.. now if only I can get others to read your fine compilation.. thanks so much.</p>
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<p>zbig is no dummy &#8211; this is EXACTLY what he warned us about in january… and for whoever might be interested, i posted an mp3 of zbig’s testimony before the senate foreign relations committee (<a href="http://www.netrootsmass.net/resources/Congressional_Committee_Hearings/page29/page29.html">here</a>, scroll to item 3)</p>
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		<title>By: Eureka Springs</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eureka Springs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jul 2007 23:54:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;selise, It’s a compiled work that scares the heck out of me.. now if only I can get others to read your fine compilation.. thanks so much.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>selise, It’s a compiled work that scares the heck out of me.. now if only I can get others to read your fine compilation.. thanks so much.</p>
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		<title>By: selise</title>
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		<dc:creator>selise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jul 2007 23:43:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-819994&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;dmac @ 148&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;thanks selise, i will read what you have posted……….as always…….quite a service, if noone ever told you, thank you…….&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;but am still flummoxed by the lack of commentary, in fact, complete silence from all reps……….what’s up? makes my antennae tingle.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;is totally and completely strange……..&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;thank you, you are most welcome.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;i’m flummoxed too… and worried… that there’s going to be an attack and the dems will (or already have) buy in.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-819994"><em>dmac @ 148</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>thanks selise, i will read what you have posted……….as always…….quite a service, if noone ever told you, thank you…….</p>
<p>but am still flummoxed by the lack of commentary, in fact, complete silence from all reps……….what’s up? makes my antennae tingle.</p>
<p>is totally and completely strange……..</p>
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<p>thank you, you are most welcome.</p>
<p>i’m flummoxed too… and worried… that there’s going to be an attack and the dems will (or already have) buy in.</p>
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