zed?

Spent too much time googling diaper fetishes to get the zed, I’m sure.

“New Czar Smell”

*Groan.*

And I was just asking if anybody remembered the Katrina Reconstruction Czar…

TRex, are you channeling Punaise?

Petrocelli, my friend?

Did someone tell the kids downstairs?

Have I got this right?

Did the Decideriderer actually threaten to veto the SCHIP re-authorization bill? I know that Grassley and Hatch ripped him yet another new one today in Senate Finance over something, but I didn’t quite follow what it was.

There’s a line from “Blazing Saddles” that’s an obvious fit here. You remember it. From the tollbooth.

Loo Hoo. @ 6

Petrocelli, my friend?

Yes?

some russian food for our czar

trot out the usual suspects: hi czar! so say….

General Loot? A lot of rank looting going on there, but General Lute escapes my mind. Maybe he’s standing in for the Katrina Czar, who also never showed up for work.

I’d like to call everyone’s attention to the very next TPM article, http://www.slate.com/id/2170303/ by Fred Kaplan, Slate’s military editor. In my experience Fred is a very serious and well-informed fellow. I don’t always agree with him, but all of his articles are well considered. His point (flatly stated) is that everying Bush said today about the situation in Iraq is a crock of shit.

Czar Lute. His golf game has improved quite well over the past six months.

Just a drive by.

Another dumb article from the NYT: Fending Off a Deadline: Bush Seeks Time on Iraq by David Sanger and Thom Shanker.

Without any other sources than the usual unnamed White House officials, the NYT describes a largely fictional deliberative process leading to a post-‘surge’ Iraq strategy.

That narrower mission would focus the Americans on training Iraqi forces, assuring Iraq’s territorial integrity, deterring Iran from seeking to extend its influence in Iraq and preventing Iraq from becoming, as a result of a botched American occupation and all that followed, a terrorist haven. To a significant extent, it would pull American troops off the streets and out of harm’s way.

White House officials, speaking on the condition of anonymity so as not to upstage the president, say that it is now clear that Mr. Bush is headed in that direction — and that the Iraqis want Washington to go there, too. But the White House officials refuse to say how fast, perpetuating the fears of Mr. Bush’s critics that he is just stalling for time, trying to get every extra moment on the clock he can for the current strategy, in hopes that the Iraqi government will somehow come together.

Do you notice how in the same paragraph it is confidently asserted that Bush is moving in a certain direction, except maybe he isn’t? This seems to fly right past the NYT reporters. That this is more spin put out by the usual White House flacks (Who was it this time Josh Bolten or Stephen Hadley?) and about as substantial as the story of Bush’s long deliberations on the Scooter Libby commutation goes right by them. This despite its pretentions at analysis is really just another example of uncritical stenography. The real story is why White House officials are already shopping a Plan B, one that is likely to keep American forces in Iraq for decades. They already know the surge is a failure but obviously the oblivious Bush does not. Once again his courtiers are unable to tell the emperor he is wearing no clothes. That’s the story, guys. You missed it again.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/07…..ssess.html

Hey TRex, have a question for you in your capacity as the chief Dvorak fan around here.

Back in the last millenium when I was doing college radio, our station had a recording of the Dvorak F-major and A-flat-major string quartets that absolutely blew me away. It was on DGG. Is that still in print? I’ve never been able to find it.

Totally off topic, but Demetrius and I spent the evening watching the entire Series 3 of Rough Science, which I picked up from the library earlier this week. Neat show–sort of a combination of Myth Busters and some sort of reality survival show, but without the mean-spiritedness a lot of those shows seem to have.

Okay. Must eat.

See you guys later, or tomorrow.

Rescued from EPU:

marymccurnin @ 277

It is my firm belief that it was a jeff/george or maybe george/jeff trist. And the mayor of Knoxville was jealous.

You’re not talking about Victor Ashe again, are you? God! Suck one cock and you’re always a cocksucker. (Hope that’s not too raw for Late Night…)

Ed*ard Teller @ 12

General Loot? A lot of rank looting going on there, but General Lute escapes my mind. Maybe he’s standing in for the Katrina Czar, who also never showed up for work.

They’re not expected to actually do anything. It’s all the message. Bush took action, he announced it on live tv. End of story.

Rayne @ 4

And I was just asking if anybody remembered the Katrina Reconstruction Czar…

There was a Katrina Reconstruction Czar?

Cujo359 @ 21

Rayne @ 4

And I was just asking if anybody remembered the Katrina Reconstruction Czar…

There was a Katrina Reconstruction Czar?

And not a czarina?

TRex @ 18

Okay. Must eat.

See you guys later, or tomorrow.

Don’t forget to floss. You know how those rethuglicans get stuck between your incisors.

Renee in Ohio @ 17

Totally off topic, but Demetrius and I spent the evening watching the entire Series 3 of Rough Science, which I picked up from the library earlier this week. Neat show–sort of a combination of Myth Busters and some sort of reality survival show, but without the mean-spiritedness a lot of those shows seem to have.

It’s a lot of fun, actually. Sadly, it isn’t on the PBS station that used to show it here. Guess I’ll have to comb the Toobz, or hope the local Blockbuster has it.

wigwam @ 13

I’d like to call everyone’s attention to the very next TPM article, http://www.slate.com/id/2170303/ by Fred Kaplan, Slate’s military editor. In my experience Fred is a very serious and well-informed fellow. I don’t always agree with him, but all of his articles are well considered. His point (flatly stated) is that everying Bush said today about the situation in Iraq is a crock of shit.

I had to double check that you said Kaplan and not Kagan.

Cujo359 @ 21

Rayne @ 4

And I was just asking if anybody remembered the Katrina Reconstruction Czar…

There was a Katrina Reconstruction Czar?

Wasn’t that Rove’s job at some point?

Cujo359 @ 21

Rayne @ 4

And I was just asking if anybody remembered the Katrina Reconstruction Czar…

There was a Katrina Reconstruction Czar?

Still is – Karl Rove – don’t recall ever hearing that had been changed.

Let’s not forget to keep ridiculing the diaper guy. He needs to resign. Rove must be going nuts right now.

TexB @ 22

Cujo359 @ 21

There was a Katrina Reconstruction Czar?

And not a czarina?

No wonder he never got any play in the news.

There was a Katrina Reconstruction Czar?

It was Karl Rove, wasn’t it?

Bush Approval Sinks to Nixon Levels

President Bush’s approval level slipped to 26% in the most recent Harris Interactive survey.

Harris (11 pg pdf) chock full of goodies -
WH, Congress, War, health care, Iraq, the economy…

solai @ 28

Let’s not forget to keep ridiculing the diaper guy. He needs to resign. Rove must be going nuts right now.

Hope Springs Eternal!

Joe Klein’s conscience @ 25

wigwam @ 13

I’d like to call everyone’s attention to the very next TPM article, http://www.slate.com/id/2170303/ by Fred Kaplan, Slate’s military editor. In my experience Fred is a very serious and well-informed fellow. I don’t always agree with him, but all of his articles are well considered. His point (flatly stated) is that everying Bush said today about the situation in Iraq is a crock of shit.

I had to double check that you said Kaplan and not Kagan.

I hear you — a very big difference.

Head Of Christian Right Group Calls Hindu Senate Invocation “Gross Idolatry”

By Eric Kleefeld | bio

As we reported earlier today, a religious and political milestone of sorts took place early today when a Hindu delivered the morning invocation in the Senate chamber — only to find the ceremony disrupted by three activists from the Christian Right anti-abortion group Operation Save America.

Well, Election Central has just gotten off the phone with the group’s chief, Rev. Flip Benham. And he’s hailing the move by the three activists — while slamming the Hindu’s appearance as “gross idolatry.”

MORE

TexB @ 10

some russian food for our czar

I’ll take a “no thank you” helping, but thanks just the same, sweetie!

Deary dear. I remember back in the 70s when they first called a policy coordinator a “czar,” at that time “energy czar” because of gas price increases. Trudeau in “Doonesbury” had a lot of fun with that. It all started there.

I also remember that cops and civilians who tried to help manage things like long lines at gas stations were sometimes called czardines.

TRex @ 30

There was a Katrina Reconstruction Czar?

It was Karl Rove, wasn’t it?

Oh, yes, I think I remember this now. Of course, since then all those ingrates in New Orleans have been just gettin’ so uppity about the complete lack of help rebuilding their city that maybe Karl doesn’t want to be associated with that particular office any more.

Hi, y’all!

Just got back from an outdoor theater showing of the Merchant of Venice. It was like one of those beer commercials in which all the guys wind up looking really stupid. I come back to the last 6 threads on FDL, and guess what? Seems like all the guys inside the Beltway look really stupid. Did I get that right, or am I searching for parallels in the wrong places?

C’mon guys, we’re not that bad, are we?

Can at least Conyers and the HJC, Leahey and the SJC, and Waxman and GovOpps get something right and remove Bush, Cheney, Rove, and Gonzales from office?

Bob in WI (temporarily)

Tex, John over at Americablog has a good roundup, including a link to the video of the unchristianlike bigots acting up in the Senate today.

Cujo359, I doubt the show ever appeared on our PBS station either. I only heard of it when I was looking online for some information related to some science tests I was scoring. And I found the page that told how to make your own hand warmers like the Rough Science crew did in New Zealand. Then a few weeks later, I saw that DVD on the shelf at our local library, and decided to check it out. Over the past couple days, Son in Ohio and I have been working our way through Series 4, which was set in Death Valley.

Our library system, by the way, totally rocks.

TexB @ 22

There was a Katrina Reconstruction Czar?

There was a Katrina Deconstruction Csar.

Suzanne @ 39

Tex, John over at Americablog has a good roundup, including a link to the video of the unchristianlike bigots acting up in the Senate today.

Thanks.

Whatever happened to tolerance in this country?

OT. Ron Paul reminds me of my cranky old neighbor who used to yell at me for walking on his lawn when I was a kid.

Hugh @ 15

[…]
Do you notice how in the same paragraph it is confidently asserted that Bush is moving in a certain direction, except maybe he isn’t? This seems to fly right past the NYT reporters. That this is more spin put out by the usual White House flacks (Who was it this time Josh Bolten or Stephen Hadley?) and about as substantial as the story of Bush’s long deliberations on the Scooter Libby commutation goes right by them. This despite its pretentions at analysis is really just another example of uncritical stenography. The real story is why White House officials are already shopping a Plan B, one that is likely to keep American forces in Iraq for decades. They already know the surge is a failure but obviously the oblivious Bush does not. Once again his courtiers are unable to tell the emperor he is wearing no clothes. That’s the story, guys. You missed it again.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/07…..ssess.html

The whole point is to keep an American presence that can be quickly deployed on behalf of our oil interests and whatever interests Israel at the moment, e.g., convincing Iran not to become the area’s second nuclear power. (Depending on how one defines “area,” Pakistan might have already beaten Iran to that distinction.)

TexB @ 10

some russian food for our czar

Latke and smoked salmon???

Yer killin me . . . *G*

Gimme some capers and thin sliced bermuda oninons, a few lemons, and some good creme fraiche!!!!!

What zitz about diapers dear laker pups? Sorry to be so late and so uninformed – so much work to do and so little time.

Cujo359 @ 37

TRex @ 30

It was Karl Rove, wasn’t it?

Oh, yes, I think I remember this now. Of course, since then all those ingrates in New Orleans have been just gettin’ so uppity about the complete lack of help rebuilding their city that maybe Karl doesn’t want to be associated with that particular office any more.

W announced Rove was taking over the Katrina recovery the night he did his Hitleresque speech in front of the old cathedral in NOLA. Closeups of him – they appear to be scrubbed from the toobz – show that his shirt was buttoned one button off. With the Leni Riefenstahl lighting behind the Shrub, it was one of the most ludicrous things I’ve ever seen.

punaise @ 11

trot out the usual suspects: hi czar! so say….

Wasn’t it Kaiser, sosay?
Don’t hate me, I’m just limping thru this.

Suzanne @ 23

TRex @ 18

Okay. Must eat.

See you guys later, or tomorrow.

Don’t forget to floss. You know how those rethuglicans get stuck between your incisors.

SUZANNE! Nice to see you again. Only saw you twice last thread and thought you might be beat.

loohoo, was doing backstage stuff :)

TexB @ 34

Head Of Christian Right Group Calls Hindu Senate Invocation “Gross Idolatry”

By Eric Kleefeld | bio

As we reported earlier today, a religious and political milestone of sorts took place early today when a Hindu delivered the morning invocation in the Senate chamber — only to find the ceremony disrupted by three activists from the Christian Right anti-abortion group Operation Save America.

Well, Election Central has just gotten off the phone with the group’s chief, Rev. Flip Benham. And he’s hailing the move by the three activists — while slamming the Hindu’s appearance as “gross idolatry.”

MORE

Of course it’s gross idolatry. But why does the pot call the kettle “black”?

Ed*ard Teller @ 46

Cujo359 @ 37

Oh, yes, I think I remember this now. Of course, since then all those ingrates in New Orleans have been just gettin’ so uppity about the complete lack of help rebuilding their city that maybe Karl doesn’t want to be associated with that particular office any more.

W announced Rove was taking over the Katrina recovery the night he did his Hitleresque speech in front of the old cathedral in NOLA. Closeups of him – they appear to be scrubbed from the toobz – show that his shirt was buttoned one button off. With the Leni Riefenstahl lighting behind the Shrub, it was one of the most ludicrous things I’ve ever seen.

That show must have required several truckloads of silent generators and lights to produce. I suspect NO might have appreciated it more if they’d sent a few truckloads of building supplies and pumps instead.

Palfrey called Vitter during House votes

The married father of four has remained in seclusion since, missing Senate votes and other activities Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday.

What was he thinking…?

The fifth was placed at 3:06 p.m. on Tuesday, Feb. 27, 2001, more than two hours before Vitter voted in the day’s only House roll call. It was Mardi Gras, an especially festive day in New Orleans, which is near Vitter’s home town of Metairie.

Oooh, feeling festive is fun. What a festive occasion it will be when VITTER RESIGNS!

Cujo359 @ 50

Ed*ard Teller @ 46

W announced Rove was taking over the Katrina recovery the night he did his Hitleresque speech in front of the old cathedral in NOLA. Closeups of him – they appear to be scrubbed from the toobz – show that his shirt was buttoned one button off. With the Leni Riefenstahl lighting behind the Shrub, it was one of the most ludicrous things I’ve ever seen.

That show must have required several truckloads of silent generators and lights to produce. I suspect NO might have appreciated it more if they’d sent a few truckloads of building supplies and pumps instead.

They took the generators back with them.

Oh. My. Goodness.

Mark Cuban wants to buy the Chicago Cubs.

Do you think that making KKKarl reconstruction czar was a clue that NOLA was doomed?

TexB @ 34

Head Of Christian Right Group Calls Hindu Senate Invocation “Gross Idolatry”

By Eric Kleefeld | bio

As we reported earlier today, a religious and political milestone of sorts took place early today when a Hindu delivered the morning invocation in the Senate chamber — only to find the ceremony disrupted by three activists from the Christian Right anti-abortion group Operation Save America.

Well, Election Central has just gotten off the phone with the group’s chief, Rev. Flip Benham. And he’s hailing the move by the three activists — while slamming the Hindu’s appearance as “gross idolatry.”

MORE

Hmmm … remind me the last time a Hindu ruler invaded another country … oh that’s right … Never !!!

The first time I knew Bush was Nuckin’ Futs, was when the head of his church pledged to lead the way in converting Hindus from their ’sinful practices’ … Carter handed in his membership card in protest but POTUS did nothing and no apology was offered to Hindus, even though someone threatened out First Amendment Rights.

Another time was when the head of N.R.A. pledged that even it POTUS ordered him to hand in his weapon, he would refuse. Bush41 handed in his NRA membership card in protest and Bush43 again did nothing … but he did allow assault weapons to be sold, despite protests from Police Assoc. across the nation.

So let me try to sort this bag of snakes, lots of titles no oversight, A fortress ambassadorial compound, no real way to pull back except out all the way, or its Alamo time. 140,000 Turkish troops massing along the northern border of Iraq, stonewalling on everything, a new branch of government at an undisclosed location. And a bought and paid for DOJ, well hmm what does it all mean. I know its long past a nap for the two year old in chief, but who is going to spank him and send him to his room.

burns, is that a good thing?

cancer_cures @ 43

OT. Ron Paul reminds me of my cranky old neighbor who used to yell at me for walking on his lawn when I was a kid.

Ron Paul’s a useful idiot. In fact, he might be a bit better than that, but not likely by much.

solai @ 28

Let’s not forget to keep ridiculing the diaper guy. He needs to resign. Rove must be going nuts right now.

Why? Does KKKarl have a diaper fetish too?

“rim shot”

Yup, that about says it all.

TexB @ 53

Cujo359 @ 50

That show must have required several truckloads of silent generators and lights to produce. I suspect NO might have appreciated it more if they’d sent a few truckloads of building supplies and pumps instead.

They took the generators back with them.

they took the forking generators back with them?

WTF – (eyes rolling) geez, how christian of him.

burnspbesq @ 55

Oh. My. Goodness.

Mark Cuban wants to buy the Chicago Cubs.

Ernie Banks just rolled over again.

He’s had a LOT to roll over about, thru the decades.

Ernie was a hoss. His sig is next to Mays, and McCovey’s, on the ball I got. Got it at The Stick, ‘66 or so?

Speakin of Chicago, I miss Bill Veeck, as in wreck . . .

tbsa @ 62

“rim shot”

Yup, that about says it all.

Beeackk!

You cant just build a Potemkin village and let the peasants keep it.Suzanne @ 62

TexB @ 53

They took the generators back with them.

they took the forking generators back with them?

WTF – (eyes rolling) geez, how christian of him.

burnspbesq @ 55

Oh. My. Goodness.

Mark Cuban wants to buy the Chicago Cubs.

A Ham in Chicago ? … isn’t that outlawed ?!!

marymccurnin @ 41

TexB @ 22

There was a Katrina Reconstruction Czar?

There was a Katrina Deconstruction Csar.

His name is Don Powell. He some old banking buddy of Bush’s and he has done absolutely nothing. No substance, all he does is carry the water for Bush (french for lies).

larue @ 64

burnspbesq @ 55

Oh. My. Goodness.

Mark Cuban wants to buy the Chicago Cubs.

Ernie Banks just rolled over again.

He’s had a LOT to roll over about, thru the decades.

Ernie was a hoss. His sig is next to Mays, and McCovey’s, on the ball I got. Got it at The Stick, ‘66 or so?

Speakin of Chicago, I miss Bill Veeck, as in wreck . . .

OK, that is some ball!

larue @ 48

punaise @ 11

trot out the usual suspects: hi czar! so say….

Wasn’t it Kaiser, sosay?
Don’t hate me, I’m just limping thru this.

yeah, I took the easy way out

You know, the forgiveness thing…

Being forgiven for all your weird sex and bashing others for same (read that any way you want) by whichever Higher Power you call upon is one thing…

But making AMENDS to the community harmed (ie LIED TO, SENT TO WAR) is quite another.

In my world, one can say “sorry!” “oops!” “my bad!” all they want. What really matters is intending never to commit that same harm again and also making amends.

IOW, forgiveness and reconciliation are two different things. We can parse this a lot, but I hope folks here can grasp my concept.

Additionally, I believe many creepy politicians use moral arguments, but they do not respond to moral arguments because (surprise) they are just being manipulative. Not moral.

End of sermon.

Bob, why are you temporarily in WI? And do you miss Hawaii?

Suzanne @ 63

TexB @ 53

They took the generators back with them.

they took the forking generators back with them?

WTF – (eyes rolling) geez, how christian of him.

They needed’em for the next photo op. After all, they know what’s important, right?

Bob in WI

ok, totally back from doing that backstage stuff…. hope the guys don’t mind my liberal use of duct tape

Hi FDLers — I’m a newbie here. I posted a few times in the past week, each time with this theme: Jane, Marcy, et al: Please go on-camera and record regular video commentary segments — because y’all are great on camera — and the TV format is way more accessible to mainstream America that the lengthy posts and pages of comments that populate most blogs.

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THIS IS MY VIDEO COMMENT which I recorded way earlier today– but which had sound sync problems upon multiple uploads to YouTube. And yes, that raises a point that there are still tech snags involved with frequent use of video. true, but worth it. Below this video link is my original comment from earlier today, laying out why I feel it essential to embrace use of video regularly.

I hope you’ll view this — after my third darn upload — and please post feedback.

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VIDEO LINK:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLzT3Nv-Sdw

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and here was my original comment posted in “Your Brain on Politics” thread:

I am new here, so I do not know how this community’s protocols work… but i’ve been very active wit grassroots media since Dean campaign. thank you)

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rhfactor to JANE at Firedoglake — re BushCo trying to “conclude” these proceedings

Jane, Marcy et al:

They’re already winning the MEDIA WAR — which ultimately supersedes all the annoying little facts that darn left wing brings up.

I don’t know how to encourage this any stronger — but in all seriousness if the good guys on the left don’t reframe the totality of what has been happening for American mainstream audiences (TV WATCHERS) — from GWB43.com to Plame to USApurge to Cheney claiming to not be part of the Executive Branch, then we are ceding the whole game while complaining about BushCo lying cheating stealing abusing power, shredding constitution.

YouTube is not MSNBC or CBS — but it’s a hell of a lot better than what was avail 2 years ago. You and Marcy and Josh Marshall are 3 specific people (talents) who have the ability to CRUNCH this stuff down to bite-sized morsels for mainstream America to digest — and so with with a pleasant presentation style.

That’s critical because swingvoters have long ago already been programmed to view the left as “the angry left” and “they’re just out to get Bush in any way possible”… And the Wurlitzer has then on top of that, planted and reinforced the idea of “bloggers” being extreme people who wear pajamas and type type type and never see the light of day to experience the “real world”… So the mainstream media has marginalized bloggers in a way that compounds the “angry far left” foundational association.

All of that translates, to mainstream America, as “I don’t care what some blog says. I don’t have time for that. I hear they can’t be trusted. They’re not real news people.”

But we here on the left who partici[ate daily in the blogosphere obviously find all that preposterous.

My point for several years, since the Dean campaign, has been “well that’s TOO BAD that it’s preposterous and wrong and highly inaccurate. Because you don’t change a perception by continuing to simply assert “the blogosphere got it all right,we were correct — it was the mainstream media who blew it on the runup to Iraq, on torture, on wiretapping, on and on down the line. It doesn’t matter, effectively, because mainstream America isn’t coming to these “CHANNELS” of content and investigative reporting.

It has been my strong contention that we need to go where THEY are, and use the medium THEY use — and that’s quite simply, TV. And communicate in that medium.

THe beauty of this is: it’s not like you have to develop some new skill. You and Marcy & Firedoglake team PIONEERED this by your standup commentaries during Libby trial.

Those are beautifully accessible and “play” to mainstream, because they are a format the mainstream gets.

Please do not squander these opportunities in time. There are very short expiration dates on the time to influence America.

if Bush pushes out the meme “this whole thing is over”, yet Leahy and others cannot make a clear “mainstream” case for why it is NOT over — and what REALLY has been going on, then it will play out exactly in that predictable way: The public gets jaded by the Dems doing the investigating, they buy inot the mIghty Wurlitzer framing of “much ado about nothing” “no underlying crime” etc, and we get pissed because yet again the Bush Admin gets away with total abuse of power.

It really IS in our hands — not Leahy’s — they are not good at communicating with “the people”. But you are, Marcy is. ANd I hate to say it but it’s up to you two and Josh Marshall and anyone esle who can crunch this stuff down and TELL THEM whta the big picture is, and why it is not as the President portrays it.

All it takes if for you to either work with PTV — or even just use a simple webcam — record your standup pieces — nightly, or 3x a week, then upload them to YouTube — tag them effectively, get C&L to embed your videos, diary at Dkos and embed those videos, same at Firedoglake — and push this stuff out.

Please. The text text text her and throughout the blogosphere informs us beautifully — but it also enrages when the public is still not making heads or tails of it.

my more than 2 cents.

but i do want to footnote it: I put my money where my mouth is a week ago when you asked for contributions. I ponied up $200 – and asked that it be used to establish a FDL YouTube Channel. I’ll help you do it. But it’s YOUR talent and Marcy’s that would instantly make a huge difference.

Thanks very much,

rhfactor

Bob’s in Wisconsin? I always wondered were folks in Hawaii went to on vacation. Wisconsin was not on that list.

I once saw a guy burn up a truck and trailer by first running off the road into a muddy ditch and not want to wait for a tow truck. A person so single minded that nothing was going to stand in his way except reality.

Suzanne @ 74

ok, totally back from doing that backstage stuff…. hope the guys don’t mind my liberal use of duct tape

Liberal use is fine…it’s conservative use that leads to Watergate and trouble like that.

Welcome rhfactor. Glad to have you.

Palfrey called Vitter during roll call votes.

WASHINGTON — A woman accused of running a Washington prostitution ring placed five phone calls to David Vitter while he was a House member, including two while roll call votes were under way, according to telephone and congressional records.

Vitter, a Louisiana Republican now in the Senate, acknowledged Monday that his number was on the woman’s call list and apologized for a “very serious sin.” The married father of four has remained in seclusion since, missing Senate votes and other activities Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday.

Telephone records released by Deborah Jeane Palfrey indicate she placed calls that were answered by Vitter’s Washington phone on five occasions while Vitter was in the House, from 1999 through 2001. On four of those five days, the House was in session and Vitter participated in every roll call vote.

One day was particularly busy in the House, with Vitter’s phone receiving Palfrey’s call in the middle of the eighth recorded vote of the day, at 5:06 p.m., according to the records.

Sounds like whoring on the peoples’ time and the peoples’ dime.

Evening all. Back from my musical interlude. Looks like good fun is being had by all.

do-si-do @ 61

solai @ 28

Let’s not forget to keep ridiculing the diaper guy. He needs to resign. Rove must be going nuts right now.

Why? Does KKKarl have a diaper fetish too?

I’ve never thought about it before, but now that you mention it, Rove really must. I mean, look at the guy, his gestures, and his mannerisms. It just screams ‘DIAPER FETISH’. He even looks like an overfed one year old.

Suzanne @ 59

burns, is that a good thing?

Diehard baseball traditionalists are undoubtedly having grand mal seizures at the thought of Cuban as owner of the Cubs, but I’m inclined to think that it would be good.

Hard to imagine that it wouldn’t be better than having them owned by notorious cheapskate Sam Zell. Cuban is a complete looney-tune, as anyone who follows the NBA will tell you. But he has never hesitated to write big checks to improve the Mavs, and it would be good for baseball for the Hapless Cubs to be something other than hapless.

hey RH Factor. Welcome to the lake. What do you have for those of us stuck with dialup?

Maybe General Loot better lay low, with the private bank in Baghdad robbed of over a quarter-billion dollars yesterday. Bad word association and all.

Loo Hoo. @ 71

Bob, why are you temporarily in WI? And do you miss Hawaii?

Yes, I’m in WI for a family reunion this weekend. Then to my old home in Arizona for a few days next week to see old friends, then home to Hawaii. Actually, the weather here the past few days has been nicer than the weather in Hawaii.

I only get back to the Mainland twice a year, so I tend to do it in 2 week gulps. I don’t miss Hawaii much right now, but it will be good to go back.

Thanks for asking,
Bob from HI in WI

speaking of baseball, newshour had a pretty fun piece on the physics of a home run. Interview with a local hs teacher right here in northern kawlifornya!

Suzanne @ 63

TexB @ 53

They took the generators back with them.

they took the forking generators back with them?

WTF – (eyes rolling) geez, how christian of him.

Yes, and NOLA should probably be glad they didn’t steal the flatware and towels on their way out.

TeddySanFran @ 84

Maybe General Loot better lay low, with the private bank in Baghdad robbed of over a quarter-billion dollars yesterday. Bad word association and all.

I think its more like Nero’s favorite instrument, to be played while Rome burns.

Howdy Dr D

solai @ 28

Let’s not forget to keep ridiculing the diaper guy. He needs to resign. Rove must be going nuts right now.

And no sweet deals with Governor Blanco to appoint a GOP “placeholder.” Why would she agree to such a deal? She could appoint her own self and make RGJoe and Susan Collins’ lives HELL until her successor takes the oath in January 2009.

Must go to bed. See everyone tomorrow.

Cujo359 @ 86

Suzanne @ 63

they took the forking generators back with them?

WTF – (eyes rolling) geez, how christian of him.

Yes, and NOLA should probably be glad they didn’t steal the flatware and towels on their way out.

And you’re sure they didn’t?

I posted this on an earlier thread, but I thought all you late nite FDLers might want to check it out. Go to NOLA.com (New Orleans’ newspaper online) to see pics and story about one of the prostitutes Vitter was with in New Orleans.

Suzanne @ 75

Bob’s in Wisconsin? I always wondered were folks in Hawaii went to on vacation. Wisconsin was not on that list.

Well, maybe I’m not typical of “folks in Hawaii.”
{G}

Bob from HI in WI

bobschacht @ 84

Loo Hoo. @ 71

Bob, why are you temporarily in WI? And do you miss Hawaii?

Yes, I’m in WI for a family reunion this weekend. Then to my old home in Arizona for a few days next week to see old friends, then home to Hawaii. Actually, the weather here the past few days has been nicer than the weather in Hawaii.

I only get back to the Mainland twice a year, so I tend to do it in 2 week gulps. I don’t miss Hawaii much right now, but it will be good to go back.

Thanks for asking,
Bob from HI in WI

Hey Bob – are you near Wausau?

TeddySanFran @ 91

solai @ 28

Let’s not forget to keep ridiculing the diaper guy. He needs to resign. Rove must be going nuts right now.

And no sweet deals with Governor Blanco to appoint a GOP “placeholder.” Why would she agree to such a deal? She could appoint her own self and make RGJoe and Susan Collins’ lives HELL until her successor takes the oath in January 2009.

Would this be poetic justice or what?

Sleep well Solai

burnspbesq @ 83

Suzanne @ 59

burns, is that a good thing?

Diehard baseball traditionalists are undoubtedly having grand mal seizures at the thought of Cuban as owner of the Cubs, but I’m inclined to think that it would be good.

Hard to imagine that it wouldn’t be better than having them owned by notorious cheapskate Sam Zell. Cuban is a complete looney-tune, as anyone who follows the NBA will tell you. But he has never hesitated to write big checks to improve the Mavs, and it would be good for baseball for the Hapless Cubs to be something other than hapless.

As a former Chicagoan who lived five blocks from Wriggley, I have to sday it would also be an improvement over the Tribune Company which always maintained the team at the “contender/almost contender” level (to maximize revenues) and would never spend the extra cash to let them go all the way.

TexB @ 93

Cujo359 @ 86

Yes, and NOLA should probably be glad they didn’t steal the flatware and towels on their way out.

And you’re sure they didn’t?

I live here, they did.

neokneme @ 52

Palfrey called Vitter during House votes

The married father of four has remained in seclusion since, missing Senate votes and other activities Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday.

What was he thinking…?

The fifth was placed at 3:06 p.m. on Tuesday, Feb. 27, 2001, more than two hours before Vitter voted in the day’s only House roll call. It was Mardi Gras, an especially festive day in New Orleans, which is near Vitter’s home town of Metairie.

Oooh, feeling festive is fun. What a festive occasion it will be when VITTER RESIGNS!

Full Mardi!

TexB @ 93

Cujo359 @ 86

Yes, and NOLA should probably be glad they didn’t steal the flatware and towels on their way out.

And you’re sure they didn’t?

Nothing was ever proven ;)

Steve T. @ 36

Deary dear. I remember back in the 70s when they first called a policy coordinator a “czar,” at that time “energy czar” because of gas price increases. Trudeau in “Doonesbury” had a lot of fun with that. It all started there.

I also remember that cops and civilians who tried to help manage things like long lines at gas stations were sometimes called czardines.

*snerk*

You know, Rachmaninoff did have big hands. And that’s kind of what makes his music so sexy.

[/obscure reference to Steve T’s blog]

I saw a great TED talk today about dangerous memes, with so much going on maybe its time to start working on an antidote for some of this stuff, I had to catch myself in responding to a global warming thing, and not just react but use reason and facts. Then with some snark.

In case anybody cares, Lute has been tooling around Washington with Hadley trying to persuade Congress to remain obedient.

newspaperbrat @ 95

bobschacht @ 84

Yes, I’m in WI for a family reunion this weekend. Then to my old home in Arizona for a few days next week to see old friends, then home to Hawaii. Actually, the weather here the past few days has been nicer than the weather in Hawaii.

I only get back to the Mainland twice a year, so I tend to do it in 2 week gulps. I don’t miss Hawaii much right now, but it will be good to go back.

Thanks for asking,
Bob from HI in WI

Hey Bob – are you near Wausau?

Madison, my hometown. Reunion is near Cambridge. You up in Wausau?

Bob from Hi in WI

newtonusr @ 69

OK, that is some ball!

Yeah, thanks, pretty kewl huh . . .

I take it out every now and then, I think Mike McCormick is on it too . . . forget when HE pitched for the Gyros.

My pops had a PR guy, who did PR for the Gyros, and he was from ChiTown. Dal Mavrill, I think was his name.

He got the signing and handshake for me with the three . . . he took the ball into the dugout and had others sign it. I should go back and look at it. Not even sure where we put it in the last few years . . . mighta been earlier than ‘66.

Dal got me and my little league kid pals tix (10) to every Cubbies game at the Stick . . . our families weren’t able to AFFORD that many games, so the extra games we got tix to meant we hit about 20 games a year for a few years . . . . Marichal, Koufax, Drysdale . . . GIBSON!!!! A few others I just don’t remember actually SEEING, and I know I’m missing a lot . . maybe Spahn . . . pitching rich 60’s, baseball WAS a game of inches!!! Basepath warfare, the bunt, squeeze, sac fly, scrapping for every 90 feet like us kids did . . . good times. *G*

Whoops, way OT . . . my bad.

Hey, someone tell The Lizard, I see his tail stickin out from the corner he’s hidin in . . . ;-)

Oinks to all, interesting day on the planet.

Here’s hoping we get to have a few more . . . and remember, it’s better to plant daisies, than it is to push them.

Remember, we need to get him disbarred too. What he did was a crime and even if the statute has run, that doesn’t protect him from discipline from the state bar.

hey DB. Lute and Hadley? What a cute couple they must make,

punaise @ 70

larue @ 48

Wasn’t it Kaiser, sosay?
Don’t hate me, I’m just limping thru this.

yeah, I took the easy way out

Thought you left the door open, out of kindness to strangers . . . *G*

You are still the Master. I bow. To your wow. Once apun a time . . .

Lute and Hadley, Hadley and Lute.

Now thats and image I don’t need in my mind.Dover Bitch @ 108

Lute and Hadley, Hadley and Lute.

Suzanne @ 76

Bob’s in Wisconsin? I always wondered were folks in Hawaii went to on vacation. Wisconsin was not on that list.

Ok, too much snark lyin round to sleep, yet.

It’s the cheese. ;-)

Do you think they are offering discounts for their obedience training?

Anyone hungry for sorbet?

Let’s see … the Justice Department is corrupt, so’s the White House. Most of the rest of the executive branch is, too, but I digress. Why can’t the Dems in Congress just hit their funding? Probably against traditions of comity, etc., but it seems to me we’re way past the point where that should matter.

TexB @ 111

Anyone hungry for sorbet?

meeeeee

Hey Tex, I’m sitting here eating just picked fresh cherries. Sorbet is the perfect accompaniment to them.

Well, I think I will head back out and go to bed. Past my bed time and I had a couple of beers for the first time in a couple of weeks. Take care and enjoy the snark. Go Cubs!

Imagine, in 100 years the history books will say that the USA was saved by a paraplegic pornographer.

g’nite dr (pause) dick – sleep well

TexB @ 115

Anyone hungry for sorbet?

I should think sorbet could take care of that herself.

[scuttles back into darkness]

Good night Dr D. I think I will get some sleep as well.

larue @ 106

I take it out every now and then, I think Mike McCormick is on it too . . . forget when HE pitched for the Gyros.

Jimmy Ray Hart, the Alou bros., Tito Fuentes, Gaylord Perry, Dick Dietz…

and of course Stretch, Willie Mays, Marichal, the Baby Bull (Cepeda).

late ’60s summer evenings on the back porch, AM radio, Giants v. Dodgers. this kid named Bobby Bonds goes something crazy like 4-for-4 his first night up in the bigs.

boxer @ 115

Imagine, in 100 years the history books will say that the USA was saved by a paraplegic pornographer.

So everything I was told was wrong, its if your a republic for to long you’ll go bind to the constitution, and the rule of law.

newtonusr @ 68

larue @ 64

Ernie Banks just rolled over again.

He’s had a LOT to roll over about, thru the decades.

Ernie was a hoss. His sig is next to Mays, and McCovey’s, on the ball I got. Got it at The Stick, ‘66 or so?

Speakin of Chicago, I miss Bill Veeck, as in wreck . . .

OK, that is some ball!

how did you get the ball, larue?

DrDick @ 99

burnspbesq @ 83

Diehard baseball traditionalists are undoubtedly having grand mal seizures at the thought of Cuban as owner of the Cubs, but I’m inclined to think that it would be good.

Hard to imagine that it wouldn’t be better than having them owned by notorious cheapskate Sam Zell. Cuban is a complete looney-tune, as anyone who follows the NBA will tell you. But he has never hesitated to write big checks to improve the Mavs, and it would be good for baseball for the Hapless Cubs to be something other than hapless.

As a former Chicagoan who lived five blocks from Wriggley, I have to sday it would also be an improvement over the Tribune Company which always maintained the team at the “contender/almost contender” level (to maximize revenues) and would never spend the extra cash to let them go all the way.

Those are hard dues, Doc . . . but hey, even BOSTON lost The Curse!! *G*

bobschacht @ 104

newspaperbrat @ 95

Hey Bob – are you near Wausau?

Madison, my hometown. Reunion is near Cambridge. You up in Wausau?

Bob from Hi in WI

Left coast – my son lives in Wausau and finishing his last year of nursing school. Plan to visit him after YKos. We’re flying back together for our annual family reunion & Beach Party!

boxer @ 119

Imagine, in 100 years the history books will say that the USA was saved by a paraplegic pornographer.

I would love the irony of that, considering how prudish this nation is. *giggles*

TeddySanFran @ 84

Maybe General Loot better lay low, with the private bank in Baghdad robbed of over a quarter-billion dollars yesterday. Bad word association and all.

Good catch! Lute, Loot! But, Teddy, Bush said this very morning that security is improving. What am I to believe?

aliasofwestgate @ 129

boxer @ 119

Imagine, in 100 years the history books will say that the USA was saved by a paraplegic pornographer.

I would love the irony of that, considering how prudish this nation is. *giggles*

… and every state had a city named Flyntburg in his honor … *g*

Good night my friends.

From the NOLA.com article on Vitter’s professional relationships:

The woman worked under the name Wendy Cortez. Her birth name is Wendy Yow…

*Scrathes head*

So your’e a prostitute. Your last name is Yow! And you change it to Cortez?

See you tomorrow my friends.

pain free sleep wishes tex

TexB @ 132

See you tomorrow my friends.

Sweet dreams TexB!

TexB @ 115

Anyone hungry for sorbet?

Dang, Ma’am . . . that’s pretty!!!

Clear that palate out CLEAN tween the first entree and the second one . . . *G*

I’m suddenly rememiscing about my dark and white chocolate mousse with red raspberry puree . . . all layered and squirted/piped into tall tulip glasses with a mint leaf for garni . . . .

I was a HORRIBLE desert person, that was one of the only one’s, aside from zabaglione, that I could do . . . and that’s not really a tough one, zabaglione.

PHUD GOOD!!! *G*G

TexB @ 134

See you tomorrow my friends.

Kick ass dreams!

larue @ 137

TexB @ 115

Anyone hungry for sorbet?

Dang, Ma’am . . . that’s pretty!!!

Clear that palate out CLEAN tween the first entree and the second one . . . *G*

I’m suddenly rememiscing about my dark and white chocolate mousse with red raspberry puree . . . all layered and squirted/piped into tall tulip glasses with a mint leaf for garni . . . .

I was a HORRIBLE desert person, that was one of the only one’s, aside from zabaglione, that I could do . . . and that’s not really a tough one, zabaglione.

PHUD GOOD!!! *G*G

Ever had Tiramisu?

boxer @ 120

Imagine, in 100 years the history books will say that the USA was saved by a paraplegic pornographer.

So, Flynt’s name is on one of the most important free speech cases there is. Flynt v. Falwell. My racquetball buddy went to the Supreme Court to kill an afternoon, and it was the day they were arguing it. So he sat next to Larry Flynt and chatted while the attorney’s argued. The case was about a parody of an advertisement for Campari liquor that had the slogan, “you never forget your first time.” It was about the first time you drank the product, but the text would have some minor celebrity saying a bunch of obvioius double entendres. Flynt’s parody was not too subtle. It was Jerry Falwell, recalling his first time, which was “with his mother in an outhouse.”

Historical footnote: the rabbi who performed my wedding was actually in the real Campari ads. Years later he was forced to resign due to financial and sexual shenanigans. (with adult women)

boxer @ 119

Imagine, in 100 years the history books will say that the USA was saved by a paraplegic pornographer.

damn, that would be sweet. let’s hope it happens.

does TexB run a catering firm? she always has a vast store of hungry making food photos…the russian dish with the vodka bottle looked particularly good – a Tzarina’s delight.

hey spidey – i think Tex is in the education field on a local school level. she certainly has a good collection of food photo’s :)

spiderpaws @ 142

does TexB run a catering firm? she always has a vast store of hungry making food photos…the russian dish with the vodka bottle looked particularly good – a Tzarina’s delight.

We call her “Aunt B”, so she obliges us with (calorie free) virtual late nite snacks …

maybe she’s on a diet and getting vicarious thrills off these pictures…

spidey, that certainly would be a calorie free way of enjoying the eye candy of food

TeddySanFran @ 141

boxer @ 119

Imagine, in 100 years the history books will say that the USA was saved by a paraplegic pornographer.

damn, that would be sweet. let’s hope it happens.

… or Mark Foley’s grandkids patent “real hair replacement”, make a fortune off The Donald and rewrite the history books …

punaise @ 124

. . . . Jimmy Ray Hart, the Alou bros., Tito Fuentes, Gaylord Perry, Dick Dietz…

and of course Stretch, Willie Mays, Marichal, the Baby Bull (Cepeda).

late ’60s summer evenings on the back porch, AM radio, Giants v. Dodgers. this kid named Bobby Bonds goes something crazy like 4-for-4 his first night up in the bigs.

Yeah buddy . . . I hated the Gyro’s, they were ALWAYS just not getting it done to win big . . . swinging for the fences, hitters who couldn’t make contact to advance the runners . . .

Jimmy Ray had bricks for hands at times, but I LOVED him. Matty Alou had a STROKE, and a GREAT batting average. But, he was gone fast. Felipe and Jesus were around a while. Didn’t Matty go to Pittsburg and make his mark with the average thing?

Gaylord!!!

The Bull. Gone too soon.

Bobby Bonds was a PURE wonder for this little league kid . . . hit, run, THROW! A CANNON for an arm!!!
Next to Clemente, in those days, he was one of my favs All Timer’s In The Game.

Later, the Gyro’s were just sad.

Loved Dirty Al Gallagher. Loved Jim Davenport!!!!!

Hated Johnny LeMaster, even Chris Speir.

Don’t GET me started about Tom Haller as a loser and some of the horrible pitching into the 70’s . . . .

Ah well, long time ago, it’s all different now. I was a BIG fan of Oakland . . . saw a LOT of games there, as I got older and paid my own ways to stuff . . . loved them teams. *G*

Suzanne @ 126

newtonusr @ 68

OK, that is some ball!

how did you get the ball, larue?

#107, ma’am . . . . *G*

I loved Keith Olberman’s take down of chertoff, very amusing pictures he creates

..of course we have our own keith olberman in the form of TRex here at the pond and tend to take his hilarious verbal thrusts for granted.

Larue, my first baseball game was when Perry pitched his first game at Candlestick as a Giant. Those were the days.

E.J. Dionne needs to take the Peter Baker Pledge (”my number’s NOT on there”):

Perhaps because no one else will do it, I want to offer a qualified defense of Sen. David Vitter, the socially conservative Louisiana Republican who faces a bit of a problem.

snip

Typically, we make fun of public figures who seek our sympathy by admitting to “sin.” But maybe a politician who admits to sin gains a certain degree of humility in the process. Let’s grant Vitter our collective absolution and move on.

Why would E.J. be so eager to absolve? Why would he miss the hypocrisy and write a whole column about the sin?

The gints once fielded a team with Hiller, Haller, Miller, Muller, Alou, Alou, Alou.

(with adult women)

Whew! At least there’s that.

TSF, ya know it is because sin sells. It is all about selling papers.

spiderpaws @ 150

I loved Keith Olberman’s take down of chertoff, very amusing pictures he creates

I’ve never seen KO sneer, or make an a**hole joke about a “subject”… until tonight!

Until recently had a personally autographed picture of the Ancient Mariner (Gaylord Perry) in my house. Soon to be ex-wife took it with her. But I got to keep the Willy Mays autographed baseball. I loved seeing the tribute to him on Tuesday.

larue @ 107

My pops had a PR guy, who did PR for the Gyros, and he was from ChiTown. Dal Mavrill, I think was his name.

Could that have been Dal Maxville? Where did that name come from?

Petrocelli @ 139

. . . . .
Ever had Tiramisu?

OH s’hyeah . . . tried to make it too, many, many sad times. Chef’s kicked my butt, every time. Flan, too . . . never could get it . . . stocks, sauces, soups, entree’s, now THAT’S a different arena . . . I was a failure at pastry and deserts in general. I was scorned for that . . .lol

Till the rest of my shit got so good.

And then MY kitchens bought stuff from elsewhere, for desert . . . or we hired someone part time to do them . . I workd small places for the most part . . 60pp or 120 max . . . . customers always teased me about the deserts. But they came back. ;-)

I had a phone call during KO tonight and missed a bunch of it :(

…but didn’t the Madam in NO say he was a gentleman and mrs vitters who probably has the jitters has nothing to worry about? He didn’t talk down to her “girls” ???? that has to count for something.

Dover Bitch @ 105

In case anybody cares, Lute has been tooling around Washington with Hadley trying to persuade Congress to remain obedient.

What is he up to? Talking to Lieberman?

I wonder if the Vitters, at their undisclosed location, are aware of the second, third, and fourth days’ worth of stories. I imagine Senator Vitter is communicado, but I wonder if the Mrs is.

spiderpaws @ 162

…but didn’t the Madam in NO say he was a gentleman and mrs vitters who probably has the jitters has nothing to worry about? He didn’t talk down to her “girls” ???? that has to count for something.

Not really. It just means he had enough brains to realize that it’s not a good idea to be mean to people who know your wife’s phone number and that you have diaper fetish.

Suzanne @ 152

Larue, my first baseball game was when Perry pitched his first game at Candlestick as a Giant. Those were the days.

Wow. We’re OLLLLDDDDDD!!!! lolol 707

But that’s a HECK of a great first game!!!

spiderpaws @ 162

…but didn’t the Madam in NO say he was a gentleman and mrs vitters who probably has the jitters has nothing to worry about? He didn’t talk down to her “girls” ???? that has to count for something.

Hi spidey! I commented earlier that this means either he is STILL a client or else the Visa slips are being processed and Madame doesn’t want them declined.

TeddySanFran @ 164

I wonder if the Vitters, at their undisclosed location, are aware of the second, third, and fourth days’ worth of stories. I imagine Senator Vitter is communicado, but I wonder if the Mrs is.

At the moment, I’m sure she’s more concerned about their kids than anything else. At least, one would hope.

Teddy, I bet she knows exactly where he is.

BigMitch @ 154

The gints once fielded a team with Hiller, Haller, Miller, Muller, Alou, Alou, Alou.

WORD!!!

Lemme see, off top of head . .

Chuck Hiller (2 bag?).
Tom Haller is easy, backstop.
Bill Miller pitching?
Muller is killin me . . . dang!
Jesus in left or right field.
Matty in center?
Felipe at shortstop?

Missing two players . . . 3 bag?
A fielder.
1 bag?

TexB @ 115

Anyone hungry for
bet.JPG”>sorbet?

Wonderful!

BigMitch @ 158

Until recently had a personally autographed picture of the Ancient Mariner (Gaylord Perry) in my house. Soon to be ex-wife took it with her. But I got to keep the Willy Mays autographed baseball. I loved seeing the tribute to him on Tuesday.

Worth items and folks. I bow with you. *G*

Great ad starting in Kentucky tomorrow, with clips of Bush talking about “progress” in Iraq. For four years. I really hope Mitch McConnell has to defend his seat next year, big time.

Dover Bitch @ 105

In case anybody cares, Lute has been tooling around Washington with Hadley trying to persuade Congress to remain obedient.

That’s what the War Czar does? He’s like an enforcer? Sheeit.
Start planning a way for our troops to get out. Plan for alternate supply lines. That would actually do some good.

Suzanne @ 169

Teddy, I bet she knows exactly where he is.

Probably, but I wonder if he’s managed to keep from her the stories that have come out since they disappeared, like the other Wendy, and the diapers, and the illegitimate child. Those stories can really ruin a quiet family vacation; better not turn on the teevee, honey….

newtonusr @ 159

larue @ 107

My pops had a PR guy, who did PR for the Gyros, and he was from ChiTown. Dal Mavrill, I think was his name.

Could that have been Dal Maxville? Where did that name come from?

Dal Maxville was a baseball player, I think?

Dal Mavrill, he was in his 50’s in ‘66. A PR guy, all the way. And a diehard CUBS fan, all the way.

And Ernie Banks was one of the most gracious and inquisitive players I ever met. Asked me about MY ball playing, what position did I play (backstop, and I was IN LOVE with it), and about my hitting. We even talked about ’situational hitting’ . . . !!!! I’ll never forget those few moments . . . most guys were kewl, but, Let’s Play Two, he was the best I ever met as a person. Evah! I bet, Dal had something on him!!! lol

JGabriel @ 168

TeddySanFran @ 164

I wonder if the Vitters, at their undisclosed location, are aware of the second, third, and fourth days’ worth of stories. I imagine Senator Vitter is communicado, but I wonder if the Mrs is.

At the moment, I’m sure she’s more concerned about their kids than anything else. At least, one would hope.

Maybe. But dollars to doughnuts sez he’s more concerned about his own future.

I know the type.

Teddy, I bet they are at Jesus Camp or a Marriage Togetherness Retreat or some such. Being shielded while they get spiritual guidance and, of course, cured.

Suzanne @ 178

Teddy, I bet they are at Jesus Camp or a Marriage Togetherness Retreat or some such. Being shielded while they get spiritual guidance and, of course, cured.

I can’t compete with that level of ‘quality snark’ this late at night for me . . . nitey all Hounds, be well, be angry, be active.

There’s a Republic at stake ya know. (waves)

(Cured? You can take the boy outta the diapers, but can’t take the diapers off the boy.)

He’s a lawbreaker, on the people’s time. And when did whoring stop being a security risk, anyway?

He must resign.

so, I have a Mays story.

I took my girlfriend, (later my wife, still later my ex-wife) to an oldtimers day game at Shea stadium. We had very good seats. As we walked down to the field level box seats, I saw Say-Hey. So I called out to him, using his baseball nick-name. “Hey Buck!” He turned around and looked right at me. I said, “Hit one out for my girlfriend, eh?” So he smiled.

I can’t say the pitcher was trying to get him out, but either way, for all I know that ball hasn’t come down yet!

as ever, excellently hilarious,
here t-rex! — i had seen the quote,
over at tpm, earlier today, but i
nearly wet myself at your rim-
shot — and a great graphic, too!

me? i’ve been bakin’ sara and harriet
videos, all evening. . . and so, to
veer a little O/T here — [sorry!]
i do think it quite worthwhile
to pursue inherent contempt charges
against harriet miers — first, because
she, as a lawyer, knows that subpoenas
are not optional, and second because she
had agreed to appear only a day earlier.

that is defiance. and that is contempt-able.

she would also make a good poster-child
for the arrogance of this administration. . .

in about one minute of sara-taylor-testimony,
[and senator patrick-leahy-incredulity], we see
what is at the heart of all the other matters
afflicting the bush law enforcement policies,
the bush-controlled-justice-department, and
even his policy in iraq. . . it is this view
that puts “loyalty to the king” before loyalty
to the constitution, to the rule of law, to the people,
and to our 231-year-long, most-successful, experiment
with liberty — and power — residing first in
the hands of the people, and thus, not the king.

kudos to sen. leahy for a truly-flawless,
and understated, line of questioning — sara
taylor said far more, here, than she knew. . .

g’night!

sorry, teddy, i forgot to type the snark tag. i, of course, meant declared cured and forgiven, but only after a sizable contribution.

Another frivolous lawsuit tossed:

(07-12) 17:02 PDT WASHINGTON — Offended by the name Dykes on Bikes? Get over it, at least if you’re a man, a federal appeals court says.

Men have no legal basis for being offended by the name that the group of motorcycle-riding lesbians picked for themselves and then succeeded in trademarking with the federal government, the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Federal Circuit ruled this week. The court, based in Washington, D.C., hears copyright and trademark appeals and other specialized cases.

The decision turned a Dublin lawyer, Michael McDermott, away from the courthouse door. McDermott complained to the U.S. Patent and Trademark office in 2005 after the agency relented to the San Francisco motorcycle club and granted it exclusive rights to the name Dykes on Bikes.

Cepeda runs to field the ball and Hiller covers first
Howard runs to back up Hiller, Hiller crashes into Miller
Miller falls, drops the ball and Conlan calls “safe!” Yeah Conlan!
Willie Davis gets a hit and Tommy does the same
Here comes Mr. Howard with a chance to win the game

Hit it once
Big Frank bunts?
Cepeda runs to field the ball, so does Hiller, so does Miller
Miller hollers Hiller
Hiller hollers Miller

Haller hollers Hiller points to Miller with his fist
And that’s the Miller, Hiller, Haller hallelujah twist
The Davises score it’s four to four
Howard’s still running the bases
From second to third it’s almost absurd

Aloha Ya’ll, I’m back from my Foster Care classes! I see TRex hasn’t lost anything! ‘Must have lost that new Czar smell!!!’ *Swish* nothing but net!!! *g*

TeddySanFran @ 153

E.J. Dionne needs to take the Peter Baker Pledge (”my number’s NOT on there”):

Perhaps because no one else will do it, I want to offer a qualified defense of Sen. David Vitter, the socially conservative Louisiana Republican who faces a bit of a problem.

snip

Typically, we make fun of public figures who seek our sympathy by admitting to “sin.” But maybe a politician who admits to sin gains a certain degree of humility in the process. Let’s grant Vitter our collective absolution and move on.

Why would E.J. be so eager to absolve? Why would he miss the hypocrisy and write a whole column about the sin?

Ahhh, because he has a political agenda? Or his bosses do and he’s too chickenshit to speak truth?

Searched all 2200 pages of the DC Madam phone bills for AR phone numbers and found 30! I know far more than 30 whore doggie male pols and lobbyists than that from AR… and the dates were almost exclusively from the mid to late 90’s Clinton era.

Also noticed the madam didn’t have a lot of repeat business.. less than ten percent.

Loo Hoo, until E.J. takes the Peter Baker Pledge, I can only assume he is, like Vitter, a client and therefore wishes the entire spectacle would go away. Any pundits who opine on the topic need to take the Peter Baker Pledge to ensure their, um, hands are clean.

Peter’s Pledge:

Alexandria, Va.: Is there a concerted effort by journalists to comb through the D.C. Madam phone list, or is this considered old news already?

Peter Baker: I’m sure there are. Fortunately, I can say my number’s not on there.

Suzanne @ 84

hey RH Factor. Welcome to the lake. What do you have for those of us stuck with dialup?

howdy! .. hmmm, do you mean you are unable to view any & all YouTube videos? or could you use a webcam to record videos and upload to YouTube? (please clarify).

YouTube added, in the past few months, ability to upload straight from webcam to their servers… but not sure what their speed requirements are. AND also directly from mobile phones, which record more compressed video making it faster to upload.

But the real answer to your question – a very good one — is I’ve thought about that at length, and have 2 solution-paths:

(1) A guy I know from the Dean campaign days who’s in DC area invented this voicemail system called “Voice Roundtables”, so imagine being able to call a phone # to make a comment or reply to one — AND — simply have you (or whoever is commenting) upload just one pucture — for some visual reference.

Think about it: we’ve been accustomed to this for decades — everytime a TV network reporter is in some remote place on the globe — and they play his/her voice live via voice commention, and they run it over a still shot of the reporter, with graphic underneath identifying who and where person is calling from.

But the parallel project I have been working on is a Video Townhall Network — which, in theory at least, reaches down to the zipcode or neighborhood level. Coffee houses could be restored, to some degree, as meeting places for a community, and more and more of them have braodband web connections. So, one person in attendence with a laptop and webcam solves that issue — by giving you, in this case, the opportunity to record your views etc within 5 min of your home.

Trust me — there’s a trenendous amount to work out — and it will require funding etc, but I’ve been developing this network concept… and ideally it would also entail picking a solid-performing, but inexpensive webcam for the PC , and another one for the Mac — and make a deal with a mail order provider to cut a decent deal for these — and have a simple way for people to acquire a webcam —- they are $50 and less nowadays.

Let me know if you’re talking about SEEING youtube videos … because if so, there are a couple of solution-paths there as well. One is that YouTube is moving to MOBILE YouTube — at http://m.youtube.com — and everything made for cellphones is quicker and less demanding on speed of connection. In addition, all youtube videos can be downloaded in the background, and you could select a few to downlaod each night — and have them ready in the morning — assuming your dialup is not metered per minute.

thanks for a great question. What did you think of the content of my video?

Loo Hoo. @ 169

TexB @ 115

Anyone hungry for
bet.JPG”>sorbet?

Wonderful!

That was really clever on my part. I don.t even remember what I was hungary for…

my goodness, es. industrious guy you are – what else did you learn? and who was representing AR during the time period.

Eureka Springs @ 188

Searched all 2200 pages of the DC Madam phone bills for AR phone numbers and found 30! I know far more than 30 whore doggie male pols and lobbyists than that from AR… and the dates were almost exclusively from the mid to late 90’s Clinton era.

Also noticed the madam didn’t have a lot of repeat business.. less than ten percent.

You’re an animal!
Any leads?

In that same old-timers game, Ralph Branca was on the mound. I don’t remember if the flying scotsman (Bobby Thompson) was there to re-enact the shot heard round the world. What I do remember is this: The announcer said something to the effect that Branca may be remembered for one pitch that he threw, but we should always recall that he must have done something special to get into the position to throw that pitch.

That really stuck with me.

Eureka Springs @ 187

Searched all 2200 pages of the DC Madam phone bills for AR phone numbers and found 30! I know far more than 30 whore doggie male pols and lobbyists than that from AR… and the dates were almost exclusively from the mid to late 90’s Clinton era.

Also noticed the madam didn’t have a lot of repeat business.. less than ten percent.

Perhaps she was recruiting talent?

TexB @ 79

Welcome rhfactor. Glad to have you.

Thank you. Where in Tex are you? I went to UT :)

rh, the point of my comment is that being on dialup, it takes literally hours for a video to load up on my computer. So I unfortunately, did not get to watch your video.

okay, i’m out.

g’nite all. after a week like this one, imagine what the friday news dump might look like!

and congrats, es, on yer perseverance. there’s sure to be gold in that pdf.

rhfactor…

For some of us, youtube videos are out in any form. I can’t download, either. I would just like to see someone rich (George Soros, where are you?) do a startup on BlogTV for satellite/cable. I do think you’re right. Jane/Marcy/Christy/TRex et al need a visual presence for the masses.

g’nite teddy – sleep well.

TeddySanFran @ 198

okay, i’m out.

g’nite all. after a week like this one, imagine what the friday news dump might look like!

and congrats, es, on yer perseverance. there’s sure to be gold in that pdf.

Nite, Teddy! Being Friday the Thirteenth I’m sure it will be interesting!!!

oh crap.. tomorrow is a friday the 13th? (looking at calendar) oh geez. i don’t have a good track record with those days.

nolo #182 – That was a great job of editing and commentary.. I really think you should send a link to Senator Leahy..

Suzanne @ 202

oh crap.. tomorrow is a friday the 13th? (looking at calendar) oh geez. i don’t have a good track record with those days.

Sorry to break the news, Ma’am!!! ;-)

Time for this grandma to go home. Y’all sleep well!

newtonusr @ 193

Eureka Springs @ 188

Searched all 2200 pages of the DC Madam phone bills for AR phone numbers and found 30! I know far more than 30 whore doggie male pols and lobbyists than that from AR… and the dates were almost exclusively from the mid to late 90’s Clinton era.

Also noticed the madam didn’t have a lot of repeat business.. less than ten percent.

You’re an animal!
Any leads?

I sent my findings to those who will be able to search further with the phone numbers.. fortunately I didn’t see any old friends numbers that I could remember anyway..)

g’nite grandma shadowstalker. sleep well

Shadowstalker @ 205

Time for this grandma to go home. Y’all sleep well!

Nite, Ma’am!

rhfactor – Watched your youtube earlier.. may I recommend two things.. check out nolos links above and get a face book set up.

CTuttle @ 184

Aloha Ya’ll, I’m back from my Foster Care classes! I see TRex hasn’t lost anything! ‘Must have lost that new Czar smell!!!’ *Swish* nothing but net!!! *g*

Hey! What did you learn about foster kids?

Here’s what happens if Vitter punches out…§1278. Vacancies; United States senator

A. The governor may fill any vacancy in the office of United States senator by appointment. If the United States Senate is in session when the vacancy occurs, the governor shall appoint a senator to fill the vacancy within ten days after receiving official notice of the vacancy.

h/t onenote

Lieberman be sweatin’… Full Mardi indeed!

Loo Hoo. @ 210

CTuttle @ 184

Aloha Ya’ll, I’m back from my Foster Care classes! I see TRex hasn’t lost anything! ‘Must have lost that new Czar smell!!!’ *Swish* nothing but net!!! *g*

Hey! What did you learn about foster kids?

Therapeutic Foster Care; Ice babies, Alcohol Fetal Syndrome, Special Needs Kids! A lot! For instance; AFS kids need constant pressure(physical contact)to cope! Powerful class!

neokneme, you see howie’s take on it over at his place? about all the pressure being put on the gov?

Suzanne @ 213

neokneme, you see howie’s take on it over at his place? about all the pressure being put on the gov?

Always remember, young lady – spew-alert!

Thanks Suzanne, I should have known Howie had it dialed!

newton, didja expect anything less over at howies given the subject matter?

newtonusr @ 214

Suzanne @ 213

neokneme, you see howie’s take on it over at his place? about all the pressure being put on the gov?

Always remember, young lady – spew-alert!

I agree! Suz, you owe me a gallon of brain bleach!!!

Bob in Wisconsin…..if you are still there, please give a big hello to your Alaskan sister from me, down here in NZ….

Suzanne @ 216

newton, didja expect anything less over at howies given the subject matter?

Diet.DrPepper.Everywhere.

newtonusr @ 219

Suzanne @ 216

newton, didja expect anything less over at howies given the subject matter?

Diet.DrPepper.Everywhere.

mission accomplished :)

TeddySanFran @ 180

(Cured? You can take the boy outta the diapers, but can’t take the diapers off the boy.)

He’s a lawbreaker, on the people’s time. And when did whoring stop being a security risk, anyway?

He must resign.

Teddy, that’s where I am on this. The core sin isn’t hypocrisy, it’s creating/maintaining secrets that make one vulnerable to undue influence or blackmail. Not just security, but corruption.

Suzanne @ 220

newtonusr @ 219

Diet.DrPepper.Everywhere.

mission accomplished :)

Beware, payback can be a B*tch!!! :P

This might be off topic, but I can’t recall what the topic is, so forgive me.
Also, I posted this earlier on a different thread. But it bears repeating.

“I think, for example, that no one would contend that a [Chief Executive] could ignore the commands of the Equal Protection Clause and use … political affiliation as a standard for granting or denying clemency.”

Ohio Adult Parole Auth. v. Woodard, 523 U.S. 272, 292 (1998) (Justice Stevens, concurring in part and dissenting in part.)

I discovered this case because it was cited with approval by Judge Walton, who ruled in favor of the government that Scooter still has to comply with “supervised release” even though he wasn’t, you know, actually released from anywhere.

But it is a significant case because it suggests that though the President has plenary powers to grant pardons and reprieves, the power is not absolutely unlimited.

Therefore, congressional hearings are not a complete waste of time. Interesting, n’est pas?

Bob in WI –

Are you still here? Who is your Alaskan sister?

Mitch in AK

CTuttle @ 222

Suzanne @ 220

mission accomplished :)

Beware, payback can be a B*tch!!! :P

You forget, bitch is my middle name. (wink) been called it so many times that I respond as if one had said Suzanne.

CTuttle @ 222

Suzanne @ 220

mission accomplished :)

Beware, payback can be a B*tch!!! :P

I will take this one like a man…. Never mess with the Queen of the Nite.

geez, newton, ya make me sound like Vampira or something.

jeep jeep, hola!

Suzanne @ 227

geez, newton, ya make me sound like Vampira or something.

It’s not the teeth that worry me, though. It’s the stare!

BigMitch @ 223

This might be off topic, but I can’t recall what the topic is, so forgive me.
Also, I posted this earlier on a different thread. But it bears repeating.

“I think, for example, that no one would contend that a [Chief Executive] could ignore the commands of the Equal Protection Clause and use … political affiliation as a standard for granting or denying clemency.”

Ohio Adult Parole Auth. v. Woodard, 523 U.S. 272, 292 (1998) (Justice Stevens, concurring in part and dissenting in part.)

I discovered this case because it was cited with approval by Judge Walton, who ruled in favor of the government that Scooter still has to comply with “supervised release” even though he wasn’t, you know, actually released from anywhere.

But it is a significant case because it suggests that though the President has plenary powers to grant pardons and reprieves, the power is not absolutely unlimited.

Therefore, congressional hearings are not a complete waste of time. Interesting, n’est pas?

Shrub didn’t commute for ‘Partisan Affiliation’, but for personal affiliation(CYA) so it would be moot!

That mom look was quite useful along with my mad mom voice that uses all 3 names back when I was on the job.

newtonusr @ 226

CTuttle @ 222

Beware, payback can be a B*tch!!! :P

I will take this one like a man…. Never mess with the Queen of the Nite.

Or a B*tch with a Badge!!! 8-)

Like I told my girls when they were growing up, we can do this the easy way or the hard way :)

Suzanne @ 233

Like I told my girls when they were growing up, we can do this the easy way or the hard way :)

Oh, I’ll bet you’re a softie.

G’night to all and to all a good night.

BigMitch @ 235

G’night to all and to all a good night.

Nite, BM!!!

What happened to Petro? I saw him comment upthread, but, I didn’t see him sign off!!!

CTuttle @ 237

What happened to Petro? I saw him comment upthread, but, I didn’t see him sign off!!!

Eaten by moderator.

newtonusr @ 238

CTuttle @ 237

What happened to Petro? I saw him comment upthread, but, I didn’t see him sign off!!!

Eaten by moderator.

Uhoh, Musta had one too many Leffes!!!

Mitch in Alaska – where are you? I used to live in Kaktovik and in Fairbanks (late 70’s and off and on in the 80’s). Also, Oak Park, Columbia MD, Seattle, and Lawrence KS. My daughter, at the age of four, asked if we were nomads…..

oh sure, blame the mod when it is the dinosaur in the room that does all the eating!

NZ Expat @ 240

Mitch in Alaska – where are you? I used to live in Kaktovik and in Fairbanks (late 70’s and off and on in the 80’s). Also, Oak Park, Columbia MD, Seattle, and Lawrence KS. My daughter, at the age of four, asked if we were nomads…..

I was just trundling off to bed in Anchorage AK, where it has already gotten dark.

Oh, so YOU are the “Alaskan Sister”?

g’nite mitch

Suzanne @ 241

oh sure, blame the mod when it is the dinosaur in the room that does all the eating!

And, especially, be wary of the tail!!! ;-)

Dark? Oh, how Imiss the sunlight of summer in Kaktovik….of course, the days are finally lengthening down here…

Is the mess about Ted Stevens getting any traction up there?

time for me to head off to bed according to token, the cutest dog in the world. g’nite all and see ya tomorrow nite, same bat time, same bat channel

NZ Expat @ 246

Dark? Oh, how Imiss the sunlight of summer in Kaktovik….of course, the days are finally lengthening down here…

Is the mess about Ted Stevens getting any traction up there?

Some, but there is more interest in the scandals involving the Legislature, one of whom was just convicted in federal court of bribery and extortion..

Suzanne @ 247

time for me to head off to bed according to token, the cutest dog in the world. g’nite all and see ya tomorrow nite, same bat time, same bat channel

Bon Nuit, Ma Cheri!!!

Tom Anderson conviction story here.

Nope I’m not the sister. Bob’s sister and I were at U of Nebraska years and years ago….

BigMitch @ 250

Tom Anderson conviction story here.

Well, that story is easy to digest.

Too sleepy for heavy content.

Well, time for me to bid another fond adieu to the Lake!!! Aloha Oe!!!

Loo Hoo. @ 163

Dover Bitch @ 105

In case anybody cares, Lute has been tooling around Washington with Hadley trying to persuade Congress to remain obedient.

What is he up to? Talking to Lieberman?

priceless ……

JGabriel @ 133

From the NOLA.com article on Vitter’s professional relationships:

The woman worked under the name Wendy Cortez. Her birth name is Wendy Yow…

*Scrathes head*

So your’e a prostitute. Your last name is Yow! And you change it to Cortez?

actually, it makes sense. it provides a good alias because of the ethnic switch.

Back to topic.

In addition to Doug Lute (the war) and Karl Rove (Katrina), we should not forget that Kindalazy Rice was made czarina in charge of stabilizing and reconstructing Iraq not once but twice (the second time, they threw in Afghanistan and other war-torn countries for good measure).

I wrote about this in the only Kos diary I ever published, here.

Rice’s role as head of the Iraq Stabilization Group, which was inaugurated in fall 2003 and had all but evaporated by spring 2004, is reasonably well documented.

But her subsequent appointment, in December 2005, as czarina of reconstruction and stabilization in Iraq, Afghanistan, and all other “foreign states and regions at risk of, in, or in transition from conflict or civil strife” has truly vanished down the memory hole. The Yahoo link in my Kos diary is dead, but here’s the full National Security Presidential Directive 44, laying out her responsibilities.

As the directive notes,

Such work should aim to enable governments abroad to exercise sovereignty over their own territories and to prevent those territories from being used as a base of operations or safe haven for extremists, terrorists, organized crime groups, or others who pose a threat to U.S. foreign policy, security, or economic interests.

When was the last time anyone asked Condi how that was working out?

I wonder if Hugh updated his list.

Mornin’, fire pups -

Some cartoons never lose their relevancy, do they? *g*

Moderately on/thread wrt attitudes toward sexual practices:

I’m watching a rerun of the confirmation hearing for Dr. James Holsinger as surgeon general. Getting one of those “prickle of hairs on back of neck” feelings (as well as “gut” feelings /s) and thinking we better hope this guy *never* gets anywhere near such a position of responsibility.

If you’ve not seen the hearing, highly recommend. And as it progresses, my reaction is even stronger. :-( This guy is another one of shrub’s Brownies [language edited by author for early morning viewers *g*] looking for a place to happen.

Good morning!

In search of coffee, and consciousness.

Good morning, pups. It’s Bobo and Krugman in the NYT today.

http://mgpaquin.wordpress.com/

Coffee and tea are ready, and I’m doing waffles this morning for y’all — I’m off for my second bout of gum surgery this morning so I can’t eat anything. Hope they’re good — they smell yummy…

Good Morning, Firepups,

It’s clear and cool this morning in central Jersey. I read about the Iraq Moratorium over at the Great Orange Overlord’s site. I’m adding another item to the To Do list, and marking September 21st on my calendar. If anyone needs black ribbon, let me know.

This is another edition of “What Digby Said.”

There’s a big pitcher of iced coffee, and some blueberry muffins. Help yourselves.

Work for peace, every day.

Marion in Savannah @ 260

[snip]

Coffee and tea are ready, and I’m doing waffles this morning for y’all — I’m off for my second bout of gum surgery this morning so I can’t eat anything. Hope they’re good — they smell yummy…

Waffles for us with surgery hanging over your head?……you’ve passed the gold standard for southern hospitality! {{{{{{for you}}}}}}

(((((Marion)))))

Mornin’ all!

must..have…coffee…

How much does President Bush need Senator Vitter’s vote in September to approve an endless Surge? Maybe Bush and Vitter are hoping that if Vitter disappears until Sptember everything will be forgotten. They don’t seem to know what the press can do with a Senator wearing diapers! Senator Vitter went to Yale I wonder if he was Skull and Bones? Can we be so lucky as to link Senator Vitter’s kinkyness to the President’s secret society where God only knows what goes on? We can milk this for weeks even if he resigns today.

rhfactor,

I watched your utube presentation and I agree that video is extremely important. I never miss Josh’s news wrap-ups.

Some people simply can’t grasp clues from the written word. I gravitated here because of my love of print, and I am fully aware that I am in the minority.

I think utube’s strengths are that the presenter is in control of the final product. The personality and brains of Marcy and Jane can and should come through the screen. People are hungry for brilliant pushback to our relentlessly corrupt manipulators.

Thanks for pushing your idea in front of those of us who love print.

Good morning everyone,

Beautiful day in the northeast. Clear air, blue sky. Birds everywhere and my neighbor’s rooster crowing. (My own dear red rooster was killed recently by a varmit who apparently wanted to sleep in.)

Oh Gawd, I’m just catching up with late nite and I’m now stuck with the mental image of Tom Delay in silk stockings.

Damn you, Trex, damn you!

Oh, Good Morning all! Now I’m off to meditate and envision a world without Republican hypocrites.

Bush is cryin about how we need more time for the Surge to work. Sure our causalities are up the Iraqs seem to be blowing up bridges all the time in an attempt to cut off supplies for the Green Zone. Google the battle of Dien Bien Phu the Iraqs seem to have, it seems history is repeating itself.
Can we really trust General Petraeus to report honestly after President Bush Fired General Erick Shinski for saying in the begining of the war that we needed more troops than we have now after the situation has gone to hell?
Now Bush is saying he asked the comanders on the ground if they had enough troops I expect if the war keeps going bad some more Generals will dispute the Presidents listening to the commanders on the ground talking point.
The MSM really should ask the Generals in question if the President really listened to them. I’m guessing that they are worried about their place in history and don’t want to be blamed for planning the Iraq war. Is lying about the war an impeacable offense?

things come undone @ 270

[snip]
Can we really trust General Petraeus to report honestly after President Bush Fired General Erick Shinski for saying in the begining of the war that we needed more troops than we have now after the situation has gone to hell?
[snip]

This is one of those simple answers to simple questions I keep hearing about, isn’t it? ;-)

Good Morning, I think

Rajiv Chandrasekaran, WP
on CSPAN talking about the super embassy in Iraq

President Bush is sure that History will vindicate him after all he listens to a “higher Father “than his Dad. I thought he was talking about God but given how well the war is going it seems his “higher Father ” is Dick Cheney (arghhh! brain bleech please I just pictured Cheney changing Bush’s Diapers).
Bush is convinced that the American People just don’t understand the danger, we just don’t understand the genius of Bush’s war plan. However part of Genius and Right action is results and after about six years we can’t even make Bagdad safe. FDR had won WW2 in less time I think that we are right to say the President has had enough time to put his plans in action.
Another part of Genius and right action is the abilty to convey your ideas. You don’t show strenght by having an ends justify the means approach Nope! The message you convey with all this Fear Mongering, Torture, Suspending Habeas Corpus, outing Our Own Damm Spies is Desperation that and you really have no Plan…besides fear.

Only been able to lurk lately, but a quick question…

If Al Qaeda is back to pre-9/11 levels, wtf has 3600 American lives and over 500 billion dollars bought us?

In essence they’re telling us a bunch of guys running around from cave to cave (one dragging around a hand cranked dialysis machine) have proven to be infinitely more resourceful than the dwindling “coalition of the willing” with all of it’s money, firepower & technology.

And don’t get me started on Pakistan and the billions we’ve been throwing down that black hole while it’s been serving as the backdrop for Al Qaeda’s “reconstitution”. (That’s a Darth term, isn’t it?)

STTP in Ohio @ 274

Only been able to lurk lately, but a quick question…

If Al Qaeda is back to pre-9/11 levels, wtf has 3600 American lives and over 500 billion dollars bought us?

In essence they’re telling us a bunch of guys running around from cave to cave (one dragging around a hand cranked dialysis machine) have proven to be infinitely more resourceful than the dwindling “coalition of the willing” with all of it’s money, firepower & technology.

And don’t get me started on Pakistan and the billions we’ve been throwing down that black hole while it’s been serving as the backdrop for Al Qaeda’s “reconstitution”. (That’s a Darth term, isn’t it?)

a talking point from the reality based community – could someone with a microphone use this please???

Good morning – Marion, hope you’ll be flapping your gums again in no time! *g* And thanks for the lovely breakfasts. That was way above and beyond host etiquette!

Another day of worry about Middle East and back here preventing a theocrat from becoming the US surgeon general. Meanwhile how many preventable deaths will occur today because someone couldn’t get needed healthcare?

Into the trenches….

STTP in Ohio @ 274

Only been able to lurk lately, but a quick question…

If Al Qaeda is back to pre-9/11 levels, wtf has 3600 American lives and over 500 billion dollars bought us?

In essence they’re telling us a bunch of guys running around from cave to cave (one dragging around a hand cranked dialysis machine) have proven to be infinitely more resourceful than the dwindling “coalition of the willing” with all of it’s money, firepower & technology.

And don’t get me started on Pakistan and the billions we’ve been throwing down that black hole while it’s been serving as the backdrop for Al Qaeda’s “reconstitution”. (That’s a Darth term, isn’t it?)

This is so much more than a “quick question.” In addition to Boston’s point above, Bush (and the Republicans) have built their entire governance on the “war on terror.” Well, clearly they have failed spectacularly.

Democrats need to shout this message through a bullhorn every chance they get. Fire Bush now for dereliction of duty.

IMPEACH

Swoopa was talking earlier today about how Science has found out that logical political arguments made to political partisans on BOTH sides get ignored. That and how we Democrats should use emotional appeals more to appeal directly to the GOP’s lizard brains bypassing logic.
I and I don’t think Swoopa agree 100% with this, but to be honest I stayed here at the Lake cause Jane and Christy seemed to be the only Democrats who were willing to fight at the time. I think you can be passionate about ideas and logical.
However repeating talking points or at least bringing up a topic again and again does seem to help memory.
I wonder what 6 years of GOP lies and the LEFT being right about everything for 6 years have done to the GOP? Bush had more than high 20’s for support when he got “cough” elected but where has his support gone?
Could after six years of Bush lying, and US telling the truth have overcome the GOPs partisan’s natural reflexive dismissing of our ideas without thinking about them first? Could Repetition and Results have worn down the lizard brains response and explain Bush’s current poll numbers? If so then I think we have found the flaw in Rove’s “math”. Sorry Swoopa if I am understanding this all wrong.

nolo @ 182

i’ve been bakin’ sara and harriet
videos, all evening. .

Watch video here:

1. one minute of sara-taylor-testimony,
[and senator patrick-leahy-incredulity], we see
what is at the heart of all the other matters
afflicting the bush law enforcement policies,
the bush-controlled-justice-department, and
even his policy in iraq. . . it is this view
that puts “loyalty to the king” before loyalty
to the constitution, to the rule of law, to the people,
and to our 231-year-long, most-successful, experiment
with liberty — and power — residing first in
the hands of the people, and thus, not the king.

kudos to sen. leahy for a truly-flawless,
and understated, line of questioning — sara
taylor said far more, here, than she knew. . .

g’night!

Nolo — great job on that video exchange. It is indeed the absolute essence of what’s gone terribly wrong during this admin.

(2) Your intent to make short commentary videos every few night is fantastic.

http://www.indictdickcheney.blogspot.com/

(3) Please email me (click my name) — and if by some chnace you are going to the YearlyKos convention in chicago Aug 4-5, I would like to meet you.

rhfactor @ 279

nolo @ 182

i’ve been bakin’ sara and harriet
videos, all evening. .

Watch video here:

1. one minute of sara-taylor-testimony,
[and senator patrick-leahy-incredulity], we see
what is at the heart of all the other matters
afflicting the bush law enforcement policies,
the bush-controlled-justice-department, and
even his policy in iraq. . . it is this view
that puts “loyalty to the king” before loyalty
to the constitution, to the rule of law, to the people,
and to our 231-year-long, most-successful, experiment
with liberty — and power — residing first in
the hands of the people, and thus, not the king.

kudos to sen. leahy for a truly-flawless,
and understated, line of questioning — sara
taylor said far more, here, than she knew. . .

g’night!

Nolo — great job on that video exchange. It is indeed the absolute essence of what’s gone terribly wrong during this admin.

(2) Your intent to make short commentary videos every few night is fantastic.

http://www.indictdickcheney.blogspot.com/

(3) Please email me (click my name) — and if by some chnace you are going to the YearlyKos convention in chicago Aug 4-5, I would like to meet you.

nolo, absolutely great video. You make me want to learn how.