In commuting the defendant’s thirty-month term of incarceration, the President stated that the sentence imposed by this Court was “excessive” and that two years of supervised release and a $250,000 alone are a “harsh punishment” for an individual convicted on multiple counts of perjury, obstruction of justice, and making false statements to federal investigators. Although it is certainly the President’s prerogative to justify the exercise of his constitutional commutation power in whatever manner he chooses (or even to decline to provide a reason for his actions altogether), the Court notes that the term of incarceration imposed in this case was determined after a careful consideration of each of the requite statutory factors, and was consistent with the bottom end of the applicable sentencing range as properly calculated under the United Stats Sentencing Guidelines.
Indeed, only recently the President’s Attorney General called for the passage of legislation to “restore the binding nature of the sentencing guidelines so that the bottom of the recommended sentencing range would be a minimum for judges, not merely a suggestion,” a stance that is fully consonant with the policies of this Administration as a whole. In light of these considerations, and given the indisputable importance of “provid[ing] certainty and fairness in sentencing . . . [and] avoid[ing] unwarranted sentencing disparities,” it is fair to say that the Court is somewhat perplexed as to how its sentence could be accurately be characterized as “excessive.” (my emphasis).
When guys like Walton, Fitzgerald and Comey loosen their ties and knock back a couple of beers, you gotta wonder what they are saying privately. I’m gonna guess that “well, the President was well within his rights, let’s all just ‘move on’” is probably not going to be uttered.




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Important point, Jane! I’d sure like to be a fly on the barroom wall!
Walton!
Wait! I missed my own zed! ARGH!
Nequals1 @ 3
May The Zed be with you.
GabrielOak @ 4
It takes a special talent, I tells ya! :^)
I think they probably say something along the lines of “Jesus Christ! I can’t believe I voted for that ass!” And then they compare him to Nixon. And decide Bush is worse. Then they order another beer and drink in morose silence for a minute.
Reggie also noted that Shrub can, in fact, do what he did, under the Constitution, but Reggie also reserves the privilege of throwing Libby in jail for violation of
probationsupervised release.Should we hope?
Jane,
What? Did you and Marcy have a race to see who could analyze Walton’s snark first?
No matter, you both hit the button. As usual.
Judge Walton’s comments underscore that progressives should keep pounding away on this issue and should keep it very simple. Scooter Libby went before a federal grand jury, swore an oath to tell the truth, then lied repeatedly. He was prosecuted by a Republican-appointed prosecutor. He was given a hard-fought, fair trial with a Republican-appointed judge, and he was convicted of multiple felonies by a jury of American citizens. He was sentenced according to the federal sentencing guidelines by the same Republican judge, who noted that the evidence against Libby was overwhelming. The system worked exactly as it is supposed to work.
If you or me or anyone not connected to President Bush had gone through the same process, we would be getting ready to serve time in prison. People routinely serve time in prison for similar offenses. President Bush simply decided to keep his friend out of jail, with no principled reason for doing so. In fact, he did not even follow the established guidelines for commutations and pardons. He just disagreed with Judge Walton’s decision and, like a king, simply swept that decision away.
That’s the story progressives should be emphasizing. Set aside all the stuff about the leak and Joe Wilson and Dick Cheney. Set aside all the stuff about Marc Rich and the Clinton pardons. Conservatives bring up those red herrings because they do not want to talk about the basic facts. President Bush commuted the sentence of a convicted felon solely because that convicted felon was a member of his Administration. Even though he has the constitutional power to make such a move, he should not have done it.
Beyond Bush, progressives should use the Libby commutation (and eventual pardon, which undoubtedly is coming) against all Republican candidates who are on record supporting this decision. If this issue is argued in simple terms that people can understand, then the issue can have legs for a long time and become one reason why a Democrat takes the White House in 2008. Make the Republican Party, not just George Bush, own this decision.
In parallel “It’s OK, If You’re A Republican” news, NYT has a Reuters article on The Miers Contempt today:
Someone should have replied, “Not responding to a Congressional subpoena *is* evidence of wrongdoing. In fact, it’s wrongdoing in and of itself.”
When Bush said that the sentence was “excessive,” he was attacking his own appointee – Walton – personally. This is like the statement that the fired USA’s were let go for performance reasons. They smear their own people without even noticing that they’re doing it.
Scooter was pardoned because he is a turkey.
Bloix @ 11
Yep.
Bad dog! No biscuit.
Well that was a polite way to give Bush the finger. Walton really has a effective method of trash talking.
Go Reggie!
do-si-do @ 12
Or maybe a turncoat.
It’s all so very frustrating. Many, if not most Americans think the system is rigged. It’s hard to disagree.
Get ready for the use of a lot of force within the ‘homeland’, because the commutation and the rest have shot to bits any shared belief that there is justice or even a statistical consistency that might be a substitute for justice in this fair country.
Possibly, more people are going to do whatever they can get away with until they are stopped. After all, they have the ‘highest’ officials in the U.S.Government doing just that, and all that brown goo runs downhill.
Jane @ top:
I suspect it’s something like this:
Comey: Well, the President is a great guy, but I’m pretty mystified by his actions here.
Fitz: These guys are crooks. Ok, people, let’s get to work on a response that doesn’t actually call them crooks, but let’s them know we disagree with the action and the reasoning they supplied.
Walton: Fuck you, George.
.
EPUed:
Richard Engel, NBC News in Beirut, just publlished “an inside look at al Q*eda.” On Fucker Carlson. (my unofficial transcript)
Q: (from Tucker) What is it that draws a person into A.Q.?
A: Iraq. Iraq. It’s all about Iraq. That is the main motivating factor. It’s what they see on the internet, it’s what they see on the television. Most of the recruits now are ’self-recruits.’ These are peoplewho watch videos on their cell-phones, on the internet and they decide to join up with A.Q. They train at home; there are jihad manuals openly available on the internet and it’s Iraq that’s the big draw.
Good job, Bush. Starting a war in Iraq to fight A.Q.
Hey, I’ve lost track of time. Didn’t the Good Judge give both sides a time frame to respond to the What about the Parole aspect?
Can anyone remind me of that?
Thanks!
GabrielOak @ 15
both. that’s what makes a turkey a turkey.
pardon for treason.
heckuvajob, bushie!
movin’ on…
so who’s surprised?? rich get breaks and the poor and not so poor get prison thats america for you…nothing new here – moving on…
Walton: you can do what you did, but your reason is BS.
JGabriel @ 10
Seargeant At Arms can and should order the arrest of any subpoena ignorer post haste.
Clothe itself in prudence? What pomp!
I wonder if there is a DC call girl named Prudence.
its well past my drinking time… must get a tall cool one to chill out with…
I think the Libby commutation and even more so the “Meyers” no show today is very ominous. They now feel that they don’t have to “pretend” to obey the law. This change in attitude may be due to the recent SCOTUS decisions and thinking the courts now won’t stop them or it may due to the clock running out. Who knows.
What ever the reason for the change, we are moving faster toward the cliff. It’s like a serial killer suddenly changing his pattern; for more and worse killing.
BigMitch @ 19
I think they are now confusing scary AQ internet surfers with the US teen liberal bloggers in the basement. They are all just so scary and unpredictable! Esp. the cellphone carrying guys without food and water.
juslin @ 25
I like the way you think. I’m there. Catch y’all later.
Well, the good news is that we now have some incredibly sharp, patriotic republicans looking much closer at our side, or at least much more skeptically at theirs. David Iglesias recently said he was much more bipartisan than he was before he got fired. He was making a joke, of course, but you betcha some scales fell from his eyes.
The republicans can keep the religious fanatics. I’ll take Fitzgerald, Walton, and Iglesias (along with about half the US attorneys in the country) in trade any day.
Bloix @ 11
oh they know alright… they just don’t care when they throw one of their own under the bus. It’s a human sacrifice to the almighty GOP.
I bet you they wish there were some active volcanos in D.C. so they could get the job done more efficiently.
Isn’t that supposed to be in Latin again ?
Steve-AR @ 26
Shifting into spree mode?
God help us all.
do-si-do — you and I took away completely different thigs from this quote. My take was that this fellow, Richard Engel, seemed very credible to me, and his point was that the American war on Iraq is the greatest regruitment tool that A.Q. could have ever prayed for.
(apologies for my obscenity at 19)
Steve-AR @ 26
It’s been predicted for a while, before the Dems even took control of Congress, that Bush would push a Democratic Congress to a Constitutional Crisis.
Honestly, I’m surprised it took this long.
When GOP-appointed judges start issuing opinions like this critical of The Regime, Chertoff’s gut tells him to array some Blackwater in the Homeland this summer.
By September, we may all be reminiscing about the good-old-days when 08PrezCandis roamed the Homeland.
The key to everything, including the underlying CIA leak is in proving that the very declaration of Executive Privilege for advisors to the president in matters that he has stated he is not involved in, is by its very nature, probable cause for Obstruction of Justice. It seems to me that the Dems are laying back and letting them defy the subpoenas over and over until there is a failsafe solid case. Pelosi said a “case” is being built brick by brick. I think they have a plan. It has caused the Administration to become emboldened by what appears to them, and to us,be weakness, and they are becoming more and more reckless and proud… I believe they will be ensnared in their own actions.
Cannon asked how can you keep asking for documents when there is no crime for which you are asking for these documents. Why are you on a witch hunt blah, blah, blah. I say, why are you all so united together in your talking points???? What are the Repubs afraid of being exposed for?? Hmmmm. We will see.
This, combined with Walton’s earlier smackdown of Bork & Associates’ amicus brief as being something he’d expect from a first year law school student, reminds me of a seminary professor of mine. A first class scholar and a true gentleman, he was also direct in smacking down peers who ought to know better than put forth ill-considered writings, and devestatingly polite to superiors who thought they knew it all as he knocked them down a peg when needed.
Hmmm . . . Reggie never went to a Lutheran seminary, did he?
BigMitch @ 19
Yeah, I saw that. He was actually “interviewing” the “enemy”…maybe after they just blew up a couple of soldiers. What a guy.
> When guys like Walton, Fitzgerald and Comey
> loosen their ties and knock back a couple of beers,
Fitzgerald says to Comey “So is there anyone left at DOJ who will prosecute a contempt of Congress charge and stick Gonzales with obstruction when Gonzales tries to fire him?”
Walton says “If some US Attorney has the balls to do that, I so have his back.”
hackworth @ 24
But he can’t. There are good reasons for that, but in short, the House needs to approve the charges first. A better strategy would have been for the House to call for an immediate emergency session to approve the charges so the Sgt-at-Arms could go to work right away — at least in my opinon.
joel hanes @ 39
Oh….that would be an amazing scenario…McNulty is still there and he could ask Fitz to do it….popcorn. (is that even possible?)
JGabriel @ 40
Or, they want to drag it out and give them a chance to dig themselves in even deeper…
One of the things that we can take as a good thing and a lesson from the Libby Keffulle is that we don’t have to be restricted by partisan mind sets.
I know that many people are p-o’d at the Democratic party, but…we have clear examples of a few, bright Republicans who have hearts. And we have clear examples of Dense Democrats who clearly have their heads AND hearts in places which prevent them from doing what is right.
I also realize that some people here have a problem with Religion, but, may I share this scripture as an example of what I was referring to…
(Luke) 10:36 Which of these three, do you think, was a neighbor to the man who fell into the hands of the robbers?”
10:37 He said, “The one who showed him mercy.” Jesus said to him, “Go and do likewise.”
No reason to throw the baby out with the bath water.
Peace.
JGabriel @ 40
imo, I think proceeding according to regular procedure is the better way, I stand behind Sanchez.
I get the feeling there might be someone late at night laying out some really big, man-sized, rat traps around DC.
“It’s been predicted for a while, before the Dems even took control of Congress, that Bush would push a Democratic Congress to a Constitutional Crisis.”
Honestly, I’m surprised it took this long.
Isn’t it the Democratic Congress that’s been pushing Bush to a Constitutional Crisis? Who’s in the stronger position? The Bushthugs always respond by upping the ante, to project the idea they are actually in control — but who’s bluffing? That’s a real question, not a rhetorical one.
In the world of the Republic elites, sentencing guidelines are not meant to apply to them. That’s why the Decider acted swiftly to correct the injustice done to Scooter.
Subpoena Fielding next, then Addington, let them all refuse to appear.
Can’t Miers, Field, and Addington all be disbarred if they refuse to “appear” when subpoened…?
Oh, Gosh. Just to clarify….I don’t mean that Bush was the one to show mercy. (I’m afraid he has no clue about that.)
I’m just talking about how categorizing can get us in trouble. And the one with the Right Heart is the Good Person.
The spiders of this administration are weaving another deadly
web of propaganda to orchestrate a potential declaration of martial
law and war with Iran. How come all this news now about Al Queda
rebuilding in the U.S., Chertoff’s gut speaking to him, Bush saying
AlQueda attacked us in 9-11 and thats why we are in Iraq and next
it will be Lieberman telling us Iran is ground zero for Al Queda.
Soon three aircraft carrier groups in MiddleEast. What is next?
I just wish Nancy Pelosi would put Impeachment back on the table
and stop enabling this criminal administration. Period!
Can Congress revoke or otherwise limit Bush’s war powers?
JGabriel @ 10
Chris Cannon, Complete Hypocrite.
Nequals1 @ 51
They can vote to revoke the war powers granted in 2002. He can veto that, and the veto would probably withstand any attempt to over-ride.
Democrats should hit Bush by passing Scooter Laws. First all legal fees monetary punishments etc should be proportionate to income. Scooter can laugh off a $250,000 fine, but how many poor Americans get threatened with jail because they can’t pay their traffic fines. Two Scooter type sentencing guide lines should be implemented IS IT FAIR should be the question. All minorites on death row since they seem to end up there alot more often that Whites and punished harder should have their sentences brought in line with the average punishment a White person gets for Murder.
In non-executive privilege analysis, privilege can only be invoked between the two parties to the conversation. I am not a student of executive privilege, but I would bet that the basic tenants of privilege apply to exec. priv., also. That being the case, if the president invokes his privilege, and says it applies to him and his aides, than he is ADMITTING that he played a role in the oustings. He CANNOT claim privilege for other parties, or blanket others simply because they work for him. He has to be a party to the conversations….doesn’t he?
Scooter Justice
Ya got a ton of legal eagles
Workin’ for your side
You got friends in high places
Raising money to save your hide
So you go before a jury
And a judge, and plead your case
But they say that you are guilty
30 months, TwoFifty K
So you scream about injustice
Get your friends to write op-eds
Have their media compatriots
On all the talking heads
Make yourself out as a victim
Just forgetful don’t ya know
“no underlying crime” they keep on saying
on every Fox News show
(Chorus)
So the President protects you
And shields you from your fate
Just keep your mouth shut through ‘08
And a pardon will await
And for those pesky legal fees
There’s no need to fret
’cause if “Scooter Justice” is applied
Your friends cover your debt
Four felonies the jury said
Was what the evidence showed
The judge was a Republican
The sentence middle-of-the-road
Compared to other felons
Who committed the same crimes
An’ the appeals court saw no reason
You shouldn’t start serving time
(Bridge)
If “average Joe” were to shred
The records that might well have led
To jail time on his boss’s head
It would seem a waste of time
To claim “No underlying crime”
Ed*ard Teller @ 53
Playing devil’s advocate here: wouldn’t doing that give the Repubs up for re-election big points with their constituents?
Is it out of the realm of reality that they could get a veto-proof margin?
The quote on the post above is from a footnote to an opinion Walton issued, siding with the government that the commutation was legal even though it kept “supervised release” which is intended to be for, well, people released from custody. But I found this citation, found in the body of the order to be fascinating:
Why did Scooter get clemency? Could it be “political affiliation? I’m just saying …
Pelosi needs to get them all impeached at the same time, and tie them up with it, so W can’t pardon anyone; and meanwhile nail the rest of the cabal.
Does W lose veto power if under impeachment??
Elliott @ 44
Fair enough, but what do you (and Sanchez) mean by ‘regular procedure’?
If it means pursuing contempt charges via the statutory route, then I’m entirely against that and think it would be completely idiotic on the Dems part. It would just lead to the same situation as in 1982 with Anne Gorsuch, where the DC US Attorney refused to press the charges. And, of course, Fred Fielding was the WH Counsel then too.
If it means pursuing whatever standardized procedures the House has in place for pursuing *inherent* contempt, then I’m fine with that and can wait for that process to complete. Though the inherent contempt procedure hasn’t been used since 1934, which raises the question of what, exactly, regular procedure would now be.
Ed*ard Teller @ 53
The one sure way to avoid the veto pen and the Senate fillibuster, is for the House to merely stop the Funding! The Senate can’t appropriate the funds, the Prez can’t divert funds, ‘Nuff said!!!
BigMitch @ 58
Excellent pull. It does smack of violating the Equal Protections clause, but government immunity may come into play with that argument….just speculating.
priscianus jr @ 46
Since Bush is the one ‘upping the ante’, it seems fair to apportion blame for the Constitutional Crisis it provokes to him.
BigMitch @ 58
Good catch!
JGabriel @ 63
What if the Repubs drag their feet thinking they are going to bail out of the Iraq war after “September”, then August 1st we wake to Iran/Syria Operation Evil Axis Part Deux. The Repubs will be screwed…forever..so will we probably…
JGabriel @ 63
The term, “Constitutional Crisis” is right out of the Bushie’s book of political terms. It is not a “crisis” for Congress to exercise its plenary and implicit Constitutional powers, not is it their perogative. It is their duty to exercise their powers.
Tony Snow just said that there has been considerable success on security in Iraq. Huh. A quarter of a billion stolen from a private bank and more death and destruction than ever. How does he live with himself?
LS @ 59
He doesn’t lose the veto — but he does lose the pardon.
From the Constitution, Article II Section 2:
Which is why impeachment is so important — even if Bush is not tried, convicted, and removed by the Senate, impeachment nullifies his power to pardon his criminal co-conspirators.
On the last thread someone posted about what we can do besides blogging to make a difference. What about an FDL PAC that would raise money and than systematically take out space and print full page open letters in newspapers around the country. I know the argument is that it’s too expensive, but I think we should focus on the smaller regional papers. There are a lot of people in this country who have never read the NYT.
We need to “surge” propaganda, I mean information, to the American people…
Loo Hoo. @ 68
Has anyone noticed how many WH “spokespersons” there are? I have about 7 or so in the last couple of years, including Snow. Where has Perino been?
-ck- @ 69
I think this would only apply to persons impeached and removed. Just an impeachment in the house won’t stop any pardons.
Get Tough @ 55
There’s a kind of hierarchy to claims of executive privilege. IANAL, but the general gist of it is fairly simple.
Most immediately protected, as you note, are conversations that he has directly with his aides. “I was in the Oval Office, talking with A, B, and C. Exec Priv allows them to speak freely, offering me their best advice.” That’s the theory, at the innermost circle.
A step removed from that are conversations held by folks down the line. Say there’s a group, meeting together, the chair of which will ultimately take something to the president. Not only is that chairperson’s conversation with the president covered (see above), but to a lesser degree, so are the discussions of the committee that the chair will convey to the president.
The further down the executive branch food chain, the less compelling are the claims of privilege. Courts have not declared a direct line at which this takes place, such as “Deputy Secretaries are covered, but not Assistant Secretaries.”
The subject matter also plays a role. National security conversations are given much greater weights; purely political conversations are given much less. And, thanks to US v Nixon, offical investigations into criminal matters, especially allegations of conspiracy to obstruct justice, trump almost all claims of privilege.
Any lawyers around are free to check me on this.
Get Tough @ 72
boxer @ 70
Blogging may not be as direct as desired, and the Bushies have vilified the “blogosphere” to no end, but I read several columns, including Dionne with WaPo, that cited “liberal” bloggers after the Libby commutation. It is providing a service for the good of the republic.
I’m surprised I haven’t seen a column about how excessive the Preznit himself has been.
You want to talk about excessive…
Nequals1 @ 51
From the Constitution of the United States of America, Article I, Section 8:
So, in short, yes.
Congress possesses sufficient means to “revoke or otherwise limit Bush’s war powers”. They just need to start doing it.
We live in a country where >20% of the people:
Believe the earth is <6,000 years old;
Think that Saddam had a direct role in 9/11;
Can’t find Europe on a map;
Never heard of the words “Sunni” or “Shiite”
Don’t know how many senators there are for each state;
Can’t name their representative or one of their Senators;
etc., etc.
And yet, only 13% think Cheney is doing a good or fair job.
If you can get 20 % for any crazy proposition, EXCEPT this one “Cheney is doing a good job,” then he has to be REALLY bad. I mean REALLY REALLY bad.
Why is there any fear whatsoever of impeaching him? The 13% will never even find out that it happened!
LS @ 66
IMO we will not leave Iraq til the Iraqi’s pass the oil legislation.
Get Tough @ 72
Snow is the WH Press Secretary. He replaced Scott McClellan who replaced Ari Fleischer. Dana Perino is Snow’s deputy. She did the briefings when Snow underwent treatment for the recurrence of his cancer. Perino’s asst has also been thrown to the wolves in the last week.
Dan Bartlett recently resigned as the WH Communications Director,a slightly different role than Press Secretary
fresh thread upstairs, oh pups!
JGabriel @ 60
I am neither a lawyer nor particularly familiar with the Anne Gorsuch case, but wasn’t she forced to resign when she was cited with contempt by Congress?
Gorsuch was head of the EPA, Harriet was White House counsel and is no longer in government. I don’t see the two situations as comparable.
I’m just sayin’
Nequals1 @ 57
As things stand now, yes, it’s out of the realm of reality. But reality changes.
As for giving the Pugs ‘points’ with their constituents, that’s a shrinking minority. If the polls are accurate, any action by Congress (or the Dems) to bring troops home from Iraq would be wildly applauded by the majority of the country — about 66% of the country.
What’s with Presidential pardons or commutations anyway? Why go through an investigation and prosecution only to have those efforts and outcomes completely undermined by a President’s perogative? What is the point of waisting taxpayers money, the time spent investigating and prosecuting and have the public waiting, hoping and clinging to some myth that our system is just, when it is not.
This has become crystal clear to my youngest daughter and her friends who tried to keep up with the Libby trial. The U.S. Justice system is sadly not just!
We should get rid of Presidential pardons and commutations.
Hehhehheh
Jane you’re great.
LS @ 36
But if they’ve got the e-mails, shouldn’t they be using them? I hope you are right, and that they have absolute proof of all the lawlessness, and are bringing in people to purger themselves.
Here’s what I’m hoping: The president is impeached first, and all the other lying, corrupt, fascist participants will have to pay their due. Harry Waxman has been very diligent and patient.
If the president/VP are impeached first, I assume he loses his power to pardon. Somebody tell me that is correct, please!
Get Tough @ 67
Of course. But it *is* a Constitutional Crisis for the Executive to claim such overreaching privileges and prerogatives.
Penalty-free perjury – it’s not just for Republicans anymore!!!
Oh, wait, who am I kidding, of course it still is.
boxer @ 70
Call into the Diane Rehm show, Talk of the Nation, C-Span, wrong wing Christian stations, I have even gotten through on Rush Limbaugh (and actually had a civil dialogue) Write, call, stop into your representatives about the issues that you feel passionately about, put together petitions that are individually signed, I have found this especially effective over the years (not on line), put together teach ins about topics, town halls, use your local access station to share ideas and spread information…
HAMMER HAMMER HAMMER THE MSM. Let them know we expect more from them. Their inability to provide accurate information was the driving force for the internet and blogs.
Loo Hoo. @ 87
Being prosecutors, they would try to ask questions that they have the answers to in these hearings. I got the sense that Specter was trying to signal something like that to Taylor yesterday. He probably did the same prior to Gonzo’s hearings. Besides, that is what Fred Thompson allegedly did during Watergate. He allegedly told the WH what the investigation was looking at.
BigMitch @ 79
It is kind of anusing to realize that more people believe in astrology or UFO’s, than believe Cheney – or Bush for that matter – is doing a good job.
Loo Hoo
Impeachment by the House is like a grand jury indictment of an executive or judicial branch officer.
Trial in the Senate meant exactly what it sounds like. The Senate hears the evidence presented by the House, and (as a jury of 100) casts its vote.
If the verdict is guilty, the penalty is immediate removal from office. Period. Do not pass go, do not collect $200, and do not pardon anyone on your way out the door. You. Are. History.
Impeachment is a political matter, not a criminal one. If any specifically criminal charges are involved, they would wait until the officer is impeached or otherwise leaves office.
BigMitch @ 79
That gave me such a pure laugh.
I respect hard working, honest civil servants as much as the next FDL person, and I am very glad to have seen the Libby trial go as it did, however, I have to admit, I really don’t contemplate what Comey might be thinking. Comey’s statement, I’m pretty sure I read it on TNH, “The only thing worse than being vilified by the left is being idolized by the left” struck me as a negative about many thoughtful and caring good people who were just glad to see something positive in the term of this current administration. Please correct me if I am wrong about the statement.
I have read here that Patrick Fitzgerald and Comey are friends, and somewhat like minded, so would the quote also indicate Fitzgerald’s thinking about the left? I am not big on idols, yet, I will say “great job” to someone and their team- especially given the sand and great degree of BS.
Peterr @ 93
Correct, impeachment won’t stop pardons, only impeachement with removal after trial in Senate.
LooHoo–I’ve been wondering if Tony Snow will be living with himself that much longer. But why would any mortal choose to spend his final days shilling for the Bush administration? He who made snide remarks about John Ashcroft when visited by Gonzales in the hospital. Blech.
Get Tough @ 72
Lyin’ is “Haaaaard Work.”
hackworth,
Here’s a link
to an interesting post concerning impeachment over at the big orange blog.
The Moratorium Against The War.
I never thought I’d type those words again,
but it’s coming back.
The last one was an opportunity to march,
to put up signs for one day,
to wear that one T-shirt.
A day to finally tell your Mom
“I really think Bush is a dangerous and lawless President, and that he must be impeached to restore the rule of law under the Constitution.”
A day to fly the flag and read the Constitution.
A day to go to church and light candles.
A day to stand before the veterans’ memorial and to read the names of the dead aloud.
A day to watch the movie “Johnnie Got His Gun.”
A day to tell your boss “I have something important I’ve got to take care of.”
A day when you decide how to make yourself heard.
Got to wonder if the scooter gets a refund when he gets his pardon on chimpys exit !!! interest ??????????
Elliott @ 32
I concur with you both . . . spooky scary, and happening fast.
Unless Mz. Sanchez’ sub-committee actions today get acted on FAST, and the House DOES order arrest under inherent, and BRINGS her to trial, I fear the worst.
We need a big hit, FAST!!!
A BIG hit, FAST!
We are NOT winning, on ANY items that really phreakin matter . . . .
And the bad guys have two huge weopons to pull:
1) Homeland staged attack
2) Iran attack by air
September looks a LONG ways away.
JGabriel @ 60
John Dean, on Randi Rhodes yesterday:
1) Sub-committee votes (done, 7-5)
2) Committe now votes. If passed . .
3) House votes. If passed . .
Srgt. @ Arms arrests IMMEDIATELY (likely with Capital Police).
Miers is brought to House Trial! Immediately!
ALL verdicts are binding and unrevokable by WH.
Justice.
Could NEVER happen in Senate, but, in House, only a simple majority is needed to pass!!!
Bring it on!!!
Loo Hoo. @ 68
LH, the Iraqi Chief Of Security, who WORKS in The Green Zone, was KIDNAPPED! RECENTLY!
Could someone spin THAT to the MSM? *G*
I don’t know if anyone posted this — but Amy St. Eve, a district court judge in the Northern District of Illinois, had this to say when sentencing a convicted liar yesterday:
“Telling the truth is the bedrock of our judicial system and a slap on the wrist will not provide a deterrent,” St. Eve said, turning down emotional appeals from the defense for probation instead of a prison term.
The defendant was sentenced to 21 months in federal prison for lying under oath in a civil lawsuit.
Here’s the link: http://www.suntimes.com/news/m…..12.article
tbsa @ 80
WAY too optimisitc.
Once the oil PSA’s are signed, we’ll need forces to protect the production.
And believe you me, that production is gonna need a LOT of protection. A LOT of protection. Blackwater can’t do it all I don’t think. I doubt, 100,000 guns will be enuff to do the job. And it takes what, 3-1 support to keep the guns fed and bedded and happy?
We ain’t building the Taj Mahal Of Embassy’s and HUGE bases to leave.
We can’t be in Saudi Arabia, and a few other places (UAE maybe), with military, so, Iraq’s our domain.
We ain’t leavin.
Not without a MAJOR shift in the leadership of this country. And THEY, are all in on the deal.
Harumph.
kathleen @ 90
And, list their sponsors, and tell them we ARE boycotting!!!
It’s a HUGE weapon, it’s old school, and it WORKS!!!!!!!!!
I’m real surprised at the blogs, and the progressive’s in general, that they won’t even DISCUSS actual PEOPLE DOING THINGS like boycotts.
I guess, it would mean someone would have to actually not GET that frappicinno low fat skim Paraguayan Goat’s Milk latte mocha java mumbo jumbo elitist crap from Daddy Starbucko’s place . . .
BOYCOTT SPONSORS OF MSM!!!
Geez, is this thing ON?!!!!
TAP TAP TAP!!!!!
Sigh . . . I’ll be here thru the weekend, try the veal, tip the waitresses, yadda yadda . . . ;-)
Judge Walton is correct.
Therefore, one must wonder: why is Bubble Boy (Preznit Toad-Exploder) characteristically so interested in “bottom end”s?
Ed*ard Teller @ 53
As indicated by JGabriel @ 78, they can do it by simple majority vote, no presidential signature required. Article I, Section 8, Clause 11 – the inherent war powers of Congress. If anyone wants to claim such a Congressional ‘undeclaration’ of war is invalid, let them prove it in court. [That’s how the Executive Branch operates these days, with their ‘inherent powers’ and ‘executive privilege,’ and Congress is on far firmer Constitutional ground on this than they are.] In principle, Justice Scalia wouldn’t disagree with such a Congressional vote to ‘undeclare’ the occupation of Iraq, I fancy:
Http://www.washingtonpost.com/…..v=hcmodule
Rep. Sanchez’s carefully-lawyered statement says it all about the privilege claims:
http://www.speaker.gov/blog/?p=577
P.S. Judge Walton (and his choice of clerks) would enhance the Supreme Court of the United States. Thanks for respecting and defending our Constitution, Judge Walton, laughable ‘unitary/unilateral executive’ theories and claims notwithstanding.
This is one of those moments when I am reminded why the protection of judges with life teure was one of the better ideas of the Framers ofthe Constitution.