Jeralyn has great witness list analysis for the House Judiciary Committee hearing today on the Libby commutation and Presidential pardon power that is well worth a read. Neil Lewis reports that Libby will, indeed, be seeing supervised release because his lawyers chose the save face for George Bush route and didn’t argue against it. From the NYTimes:
But in filings to the court, both sides said that the president’s constitutional power to grant clemency trumped any details in a statute and that the condition of two years of supervised release could be enforced.
Mr. Libby, former chief of staff to Vice President Dick Cheney, will thus have to abide by several conditions over the next two years, including those of obtaining a job and providing a written report to the probation office every month about his activities. He was convicted in March of lying to a grand jury and the Federal Bureau of Investigation in an investigation of the leak of the identity of a C.I.A. operative, Valerie Wilson.
Mr. Libby paid $250,400 in fines and penalties and will have to do 400 hours of community service.
Whew, feel the punishment.
Sara Taylor will be testifying this morning before the Senate Judiciary Committee, and reports are that she will be answering questions. That could get awfully intersting, give the fantastic and impassioned speech that Sen. Leahy gave yesterday on the floor of the Senate about the need to restore habeas.
Finally, the NYTimes has a great editorial this morning about the disrespect for the law in the Bush Administration:
Congress and the American public need to know all that has gone on at the Justice Department. But instead of aiding that search for the truth, President Bush is blocking it, invoking executive privilege this week to prevent Harriet Miers, the former White House counsel, and Sara Taylor, a former top aide to Karl Rove, from telling Congress what they know about the purge of federal prosecutors.
Mr. Bush’s claim is baseless. Executive privilege, which is not mentioned in the Constitution, is a judge-made right of limited scope, intended to create a sphere of privacy around the president so that he can have honest discussions with his advisers. The White House has insisted throughout the scandal that Mr. Bush — and even Mr. Gonzales — was not in the loop about the firings. If that is the case, the privilege should not apply.
Even if Mr. Bush was directly involved, Ms. Miers and Ms. Taylor would have no right to withhold their testimony. The Supreme Court made clear in the Watergate tapes case, its major pronouncement on the subject, that the privilege does not apply if a president’s privacy interests are outweighed by the need to investigate possible criminal activity. Congress has already identified many acts relating to the scandal that may have been illegal, including possible obstruction of justice and lying to Congress.
The White House argues that its insistence on the privilege is larger than this one case, that it is protecting the presidency from inappropriate demands from Congress. But the reverse is true. This White House has repeatedly made clear that it does not respect Congress’s constitutional role. If Congress backs down, it would not only be compromising an important investigation of Justice Department malfeasance. It would be doing serious damage to the balance of powers.
Could get interesting…
10:06 am ET
Sen. Leahy opening the hearing. Detailing the conversations had with Taylor and her attorney. Leahy says there is clear evidence that Karl Rove was involved inteh USAtty firings. Says that Taylor informed the committee that she wants to cooperate with the SJC — President’s blanket assertion of executive privilege is unprecedented.
Leahy says under oath, the bottom line of the AG, the DAG, the AG’s former CoS, the WH liaison was that none of them were responsible for the USAtty firings. Gets into the WH political office role in trying to use USAtty offices and prosecutions to potentially impact elections.
What is it that the WH is so intent on hiding? They cannot even give us information on the firings and other basic information. Ms. Taylor’s honest testimony could answer these questions. The WH is contemptuous of Congress and the American public’s right to know what is being done. This is serious — about improper political manipulation of the justice system, about USAttys being encouraged to bring cases against political enemies, it is about high ranking officials maniuplating justice. This has included lying, misleading and stonewalling the Congress — “this Administration has instituted an abusive policy of secrecy, aimed at protecting themselves from embarassment and accountability.” In America, no one is above the law.
I hope Ms. Taylor chooses to reject the WH insistance on secrecy, and cooperates with this committee.
SEN. SPECTER OPENING: Specter says the SJC should cave to the WH demands, do without the oath, he could live with a closed session, etc. (CHS notes: I see that Lord Noth has shown up just in time this morning with his subservient act. Right on cue…again.) I believe that the continuation of AG Gonzales as the attorney general — as I’ve said both privately and publicly — is nto in the best interests of the United States. But, I won’t presume to tell the President that he ought to fire him.
Specter talking now about Gonzales’ lying to Congress re: the FBI infringement reports. Now arguing against holding Sara Taylor in contempt if she improperly asserts privilege. Specter says that there are 6 Democrats at the hearing today, and that he could use more Republicans who might actually like to do their jobs.
SEN. SCHUMER OPENING: I know that you want to cooperate and to talk with the Committee. The WH has issued a gag order, plain and simple. The President can dress it up all he wants, but it is ill-considered and unpersuasive and overbroad. Our faith in this Administration is misplaced — there is an effort, it seems at all costs, at avoiding telling the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth.
Believe that the privilege claim that the President has asserted is weak — because we are asking about a discrete series of events, because some of the documents have already been issued by the DOJ to the SJC, and for a number of other reasons.
SEN. GRASSLEY OPENING: Thanks Taylor for appearing. Taylor is from Iowa, Grassley’s home state, and is giving some background on her now. Says she is in the unenviable position of being sandwiched between the clashing interests of two branches of government. Grassley says that testifying is the right course of action, and he thanks her for being here.
Taylor now being sworn in to testify.
Am going to start a new thread…
Related posts:
- Stuart Taylor: Sotomayor Not Just a Student Radical, but an Uppity Minority Female
- The Bush Fairy Tale on the Libby Pardon
- Washington Post: Rove More Involved in US Attorney Firings Than He Claims
- “Certain Officers”: Putting Reyes, Panetta, HPSCI Democrats, and 2 + 2 Together
- The Taxpayers Paid Dick Cheney’s Personal Defense Attorney to Obstruct Any Inquiries Into His Crimes





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Hey!
PROSECUTE!
i just don’t see leahy caving… go pat!
Sorry abut the caps, I was so excited about possibly getting the zed, that I keep my finger on the shift key.
Good morning Christy!
sixth……lol
Good morning, Christy:
How’s the Peanut? How are you?
My Letter to the Editor for today:
The Post’s latest, delicately titled editorial chastises the Attorney General for not admitting in Congressional testimony that he saw FBI reports of abuses of National Security Letters and other intelligence gathering (”Mr. Gonzalez’s Inattention”, July 11). It concludes, “Presented with evidence of such abuse, Mr. Gonzales either read the reports, dismissed them as irrelevant or inconsequential, and failed to share them with lawmakers; or he failed to read them and showed an alarming degree of disengagement….” The Post fails to mention a third, more obvious possibility: that Gonzalez perjured himself. It is well established that Gonzalez is either incompetent, or, more likely, that he is the figurehead chief of the Justice Department, who will remain in office as long as he shields the President from accountability for illegal wiretapping and abuse of his power to name U.S. attorneys. In failing to entertain the possibility that Gonzalez and the White House have committed crimes the Post is engaging in the pretense of scrutiny.
Good morning all, going to be an interesting day I think…
Morning all – dropped The Peanut off for preschool, had to run over and get some blood drawn for testing, and rushed home for a cuppa coffee and some SJC. I am such a political nerd. *G*
(((((((Christy!)))))))
Three quick comments:
1. Anytime anyone in the Bush administration or otherwise, uses the talking point “If we don’t fight them over there, we’ll have to fight them here”, please look them in the eye and say “yes, I guess that works well for us, but what’s the effect on innocent Iraqi women and children?” Make them explain to you how Americans innocent lives are more valuable than Iraqi innocent lives. Then tell them you have proof their wrong and that they should go check that Bible, that they believe is literally true, hidden under the porn and sex toys in their nightstand drawer.
2. I few days back I brought up the point that what Vitter did was not just a “sin”, it was a crime. With more revelations coming out (see NOLA.com), I think a good case could be made for bar discipline/suspension. The Louisiana Supreme Crt. web site has a link to where to report ethical violations.
3. I wish the best for Cindy Sheehan in life, but what she is planning to do is a Rove dream come true. Limbaugh will ask all his listeners to contribute to her campaign. It’s a total distraction that will do nothing to end the war sooner.
Sorry for the repost, but I wanted to get Christy’s thoughts on bar suspension for Vitter.
George Bush on power:
“It’s not really power if you don’t abuse it.”
Good Morning Christy!
I can’t connect through the Senate site, anyone have a good link?
Does testifying mean she will actually say anything or will she just be sworn in and claim executive privilege?
(((Christy and the Peanut)))
Senate up and running
Millineryman @ 4
It’s ok…we should be yelling about prosecution.
SJC webcast not working. anyone seeing anything out there in televisionland?
I mentioned this down below but it fits here as well.
It seems to me that, with their expansionist views of power within the Presidency, BushCo is trying to implement a back door version of an “Official Secrets Act” similar to the one in the UK. The President would be allowed to designate whomever he sees fit as being covered, hence the desire to cover Miers and Taylor under the rubric of “executive privilege” even after they’ve left the WH and even if the conversations were not with the President.
Any thoughts? Or am I an idiot?
SJC up on CSpan 3
hmm… nothing yet on c-span. no webcast yet from the senate judiciary committee.
waiting….
ok! starting now!
It’s up on cspan 3!
Gosh, I can hear the press briefing — in all its refurbished ways — already:
“While the president is committed to the deadly serious threats facing our nation, both here and abroad, Congress continues to waste time with the political theater of hearings that have no basis in fact and try to undermine the need of the president to receive unfettered advice. Ultimately, we all serve at the pleasure of the president, and part of the reason we’re not seeing quicker progress in Iraq is that it took Congress 100 days — 100 days — to respond to the president’s request to support our troops in their mission.”
Suffering from TSD: Tony Snow Disorder.
One last snark before settling in to preserve server load:
Is it just me or does that picture of Abu look like he has been practicing shrubya’s smirk. Really. The exact. same. facial. expression! Note the vacant, glassy stare and the sem-smile as if watching porn…
Leahy: I hope she cooperates
nomolos @ 16
thanks
Courtesy of Pachacutec: A link to the Senate hearing via CSPAN 3.
Leahy: I pointed out to Miss Taylor that law enforcement should be above politics. No one from cop on the beat to average citizen should think they need a political litmus test on prosecution. WH continues to cover-up facts. Her lawyer informed us last week she wanted to participate. Unprecedented assertion of exec privilege.
Citizen Jane @ 23
It’s the smirking chimp version of the Stepford wives. Creepy.
TiredFed @ 18
try again
LIVE VIDEO LINK
through to C-SPAN. . .
leahy on now — opening statments
Senate Judiciary hearing, links to webcast. Needs realplayer.
Also on cspan 3
Leahy asks rhetorically:
“What does the White House have to hide?”
Helen @ 24
Leahy: I hope she cooperates
I hope that he makes her identify the privilege she asserts with regard to every question asked.
E.g. Base upon conversations w/ the president? the V.P., Justice Dept officials?
Etc.
I asked this in the previous thread, but now it’s more on topic…
If there aren’t the votes for impeaching Gonzo, can’t simple criminal charges be brought against him? He’s clearly lied to Congress, which I’m told is illegal.
Leahy: “Who ordered these firings? And why?”
“The Life and times of Dick Cheney” on CSPAN-3 at 8:00 tonight..
BTW.. Where can I get the SJC hearing ?? CSPN2 just has Senate Floor coverage
Leahy: “What is it that the White House is hiding?”
GeorgeSimian @ 34
They have to be brought by the USA in DC – a Bush crony.
Leahy: “This is about improper political influence by this administration.”
most likely it’s just me – but the only atty firing I’m really concerned about is Carol Lam. imo, the others could be a smoke-screen.
Leahy: “Apparently the President and the Vice-President feel they are above the Law, but – in America – no one is above the Law.”
Spector: I’ve had a preliminary talk with Taylor and her attorney. She knows about Arkansas.
That would be Tim Griffin, folks.
Specter does not want her sworn!!!
Mojo @ 36
CSpan 3 or links at comment #31
Leahy “no one no one is above the law” Oh Senator Leahy so many of us wish this were true. But with the Libby commutation in our faces it is difficult to believe…really difficult!
Specter – no need for an oath – asshat
Haggis!
Dear Sara Taylor,
Thought for the day. All the truth, all the time.
Sincerely,
Hopeful Americans
When does the Kool-Aid Guy come smashing through the wall.
-GSD
Specter: But, but, but Clinton!!!
Specter: Clinton did it too!
Arlen Spector: Clinton did it too.
Spector still willing to let WH folks testify without transcripts.
And then brings up Clinton firing USAs open taking office.
Give that sh*t a rest Arlen! Basta!
radiofreewill @ 41
If only this were actually true…Libby, Iran/Contra…
Arlen is “negotiating via TV” with the White House to encourage White House cooperation by agreeing to transcripts of interviews, but stopping short of having the testimony sworn.
Apparently, the courts will decide.
egregious @ 50
Jinx!
Specter bringing up Abu’s lies disclosed yesterday.
Arlen seems to think Abu is the only problem and everything will be hunky-dory if he resigns.
“Not in the national interest” that’s an understatement
Senator Specter has been a member of the Senate Judiciary Committee since he came to the Senate. As such, he has played an instrumental role in many of the Senate’s most important issues, including the confirmations of Chief Justice John G. Roberts, Jr. and Attorney General Alberto Gonzales. In early 2006, he presided over the nomination hearings of Judge Samuel Alito to serve as Associate Justice on the U.S. Supreme Court.
Arlen is saying up front he won’t support a Criminal Contempt citation for anyone, because it would take two years to litigate it.
‘criminal contempt citation would be bad publicity – so I hope we won’t do it’ – shorter Arlen
Thanks in advance for all the coverage of these important hearings today, Christy, Marcy, Jane, & all. Hitting the PayPal button for FDL is my next keystroke…
Back to radio silence for your live blogging.
Unwillingness to give sworn testimony is best interpreted as notice of intent to lie.
Why does Specter want to give the DOJ a license to lie?
I think that’s a pretty good talking point.
Oh we’re watching!
Ah, yes. “Moderate Maverick” Specter does exactly what I thought he would do: whimpers a bit, but than falls in line with BushCo as always because he’s a Republican first and an American a distant second.
Spector “we can not voluntarily give up our responsibility of congressional oversight”
War resolution of 2002 just the tip of the iceberg
Sara looks stressed.
Specter is there alone….. no other goopers!
hahahaha, no other republicans
Looks like we’ll be getting a lot of Arlen as he’s the only R there so far.
7 democrats; no Repubs. Specter begging for help from his friends.
Shorter Specter…I believe AGAG should not be in his position…but ya see I’m not the Decider guy and I defer to his powers and he should respect my powers too…but having said that I relinquish my Congressional powers of oversight and impeachment and won’t try to get rid of AGAG.
Also please go get some republicans to come to this hearing…pretty please.
dakine01 @ 43
Thanks Insight doesn’t have CSPAN 3..
BTW,..
WTF is THIS ??
“But, as a former presidential adviser, she will also honor the president’s invocation of executive privilege to keep quiet about “White House consideration, deliberations, or communications, whether internal or external, relating to the possible dismissal or appointment of United States attorneys,” according to a written copy of her opening statement provided by her lawyer’s office. “
So she cannot testify about the USA’s..
Why is she there ???
Leahy: The White House offer to cooperate on their terms is unacceptable.
anne @ 69
Really? That is usually a good sign. They clear out when it looks like a hearing will be bad PR for them. Also, it is a sign that they aren’t willing to carry water for the Bush administration in this particular case.
Schumer: “Ms Taylor I want to thank you for coming before our committee in response to our subpoena…” LOL
Shumer to Sara: Our quarrel is not with you.
Was Taylor sworn in?
And of course Specter made a dig of how few GOP Senators were there — implying that they weren’t invited. Leahy wasted no time dog-slapping Specter on this: “They were invited, they just didn’t show.”
Now Schumer talks to Taylor about Bush’s Gag Order.
Shumer: Pres has issued a gag order.
Chuck. Some of us may have a quarrel with Sara Taylor if she doesn’t deliver.
Our nation is gagging!
Shu is calling out Bush for, in essence, issuing a ‘gag’ order to Sara and other witnesses.
hmmm, will they be able to ask her about caging in arkansas?
*xyz @ 79
We haven’t seen but it may have been before the camera’s started rolling.
Grassley shows up. Bouncing between Judiciary and Finance committees
Helen @ 72
Would it not be better for the Republicans if they actually came out asking hard questions. Rise above party politics appeal to the nations integrity.
Grassely’s been hustled into the meeting for a brief opening statement. He’s hurried and rushed, and saying he will probably have to leave right after his statement.
anne @ 85
I would believve they can ask her about anything and everything in all of the released e-mails of which she was a recipient.
Grassley giving her background as an Iowa resident and how he met her at her 6th b’day.
Grassley is giving an endorsement for his fellow Iowan, Sara.
Swearing her in right now.
Oh, Kathleen at 87 – You funny!!!!
did Bush’s writers do Grassley’s speech too? Same kind of no-info speech
Of course she is from Iowa! Everyone who ever lived in Iowa is from Iowa. If you lived there you know how funny this is – - really.
Oh, for God’s sake …
Sara Taylor sworn in!
Sara from Iowa please tell the truth and nothing but the truth!
I’ve noticed not only an absence of Republicans at these hearings, but also in the oped pages. I mean, there’s just no Repug support for Gonzo in this mess. Anywhere. Someone’s just got to step up to the plate and impeach the sob.
Please, no bad comments about my alma mater, Drake University.
Sara opening statement being allowed by exception.
Kathleen @ 87
Too many of them know that this whole affair stinks and want no part of it so they don’t show up rather than show up, ask tough questions and p*ss off the base.
Grassley makes a short statement on a break from the Finance Committee he’s attending.
Talks up Taylor’s sweetness in coming here. Goes into treacle about how they’re Fellow Iowans and what a Nice Girl she is. Talks about how brave she is to oppose Bush’s edict. (Nice and subtle, Charles! He hints at the high-handedness of BushCo.)
Leahy prepares to swear her in, first continuing the Taylor bio Grassley had started and does synopsis of events leading to today.
Taylor starts to speak…
radiofreewill @ 84
see my comment @ 74
ST Bush is a great and decent man…..
She looks seriously stressed.
Clear voice..yowser
Maybe it’s the angle but she looks COMPLETELY different from her pictures
She has a flinty voice
dakine01 @ 101
It isn’t the base that they’re worried about. The base doesn’t care about this, or the Libby situation.
Bush cares. That’s who they’re worried about p*ssing off.
The Bush administration has an interest in conflating its own interests with those of the base. Don’t fall for it.
She’s gonna follow Chimpy’s orders.
Heil.
Shorter ST: Hey you guys fight it out and leave me out of this sh*t storm.
ST ‘Will only give my name, rank and serial number’
So she’s going to stonewall.
Sara speaking stridently and loudly.
Giving the standard “I’m a Bushie” loyalty pledge, but declaring that the area of questioning today involves areas of Privilege that have been communicated to her by Fielding.
She says she’ll answer questions that don’t infringe on Mr. Fielding’s request.
She sounds petulant….
“this is much bigger than me” Sara Taylor
carolyn urban @ 113
Big surprise, huh?
Taylor’s as subtle as Grassley. After giving Bush a nice sweet talk-up, she reads text of Fielding’s high-handed, damning and obnoxious gag order to her.
She’s got a good career ahead of her.
She’s really a hard core Bushie
As Josh Marshall said, they should throw Taylor in jail if she fails to cooperate.
make her identify the source of each and every privilege she asserts!
Nequals1 @ 117
Yes she does
her pants are all ready on fire!
Other career opportunities? And not to spend more time with her family? I’m shocked!
Why she resigned? Shorter Sara: I left to spend time with the family I haven’t had yet.
Have the Seargent at Arms take her into custody the minute she asserts executive privilege.
*xyz at #109:
Well said.
Leahy: Why did you resign?
Sara: I’m 32 years old and ready to move on.
RevDeb @ 116
Attorneys….Can they push Sara hard enough to tell the truth. She sounds so nervous.
I hate real media. Why can’t they just have audio on this, so it doesn’t keep jamming up
Why do I get the feeling that Leahy knows more than he is letting on?
Sara Taylor is doing the good German act. I vaz just following ordors. Und I vill not zay anyzing against mein fuerher.
“Even if Mr. Bush was directly involved,…”
That should be “Even if Mr. Bush WERE
directly involved…”
[wouldn’t you think that the New York Times would know better?]
If I was them, I’d look for a new editor.
Nola Sue @ 127
so funny
Way to go Leahy! Starts right off with e-mail from Croc-a-Kyle to ST@GWB43 address.
She is a complete hack.
Leahy is questioning Sara about her RNC e-mail address at gwb43.com!
She says she used it regularly.
How often?
She says 66,000 times.
A ‘fair amount’ = 66,000 retained emails.
Leahy is withering.
The guy next to her looks as if he is going to jump out of his skin. Who is he?
Kathleen @ 129
I’m already waiting to see what Whitehouse has to ask.
She’s got tells – she talks with her hands, and she’s been instructed to keep them far forward in front of her on the table.
Sara says she used her RNC system to keep the PRA workload down.
She was all worried about violating the Hatch act and wasting tax payer dollars. What a great American.
Interesting. She claims she hasn’t been offered protection by BushCo. Of course, she could be arrogant like AGAG and just lie like a rug on the stand.
Leahy is amazing. Calm, patient, professional, relentless. Taylor senses that her task will be more difficult than she thought. If she tries lying, Leahy will spot it.
She’s trying to parse use of address as violation of Hatch Act prevention and saying just used wrong computer/address for gov’t business.
“didn’t want to spend taxpayer dollars on political matters”
That’s the biggest lie from the entire administration so far!
Taylor: I didn’t violate the Hatch Act except when I wasn’t looking.
She may screw herself here. She’s acting like she know whatthe Hatch act is. If she’s violated it, she’s screwed.
Kathleen @ 139
I believe her attorney
She brushes her hair back when she’s not sure.
Sara is walking a very close line to admitting to Hatch Act violations.
I’m glad that Leahy is moving towards the point that using gwb43.com, avoiding archiving, makes privilege claims look like ever so much bullshit.
He’s playing the catch-22: if you’re asserting executive privilege, then RNCmail counts as presidential records, and you’re picking your poison between violating the Hatch Act and the Presidential Records Act.
nomolos @ 132
Because he does. Taylor’s smarter than AGAG, but Leahy’s already got her stuttering on the Hatch Act issue.
Dumb question. Why isn’t her very job — WH office of political affairs — a violation of the Hatch Act?
Sara’s is floundering!
She realizes that she’s about to admit to criminal activities.
Hammer meet nail.
this one is no Monica Goodling.
Now she swerving. “Not a hatch act expert”
radiofreewill @ 138
“the law is the law”
Taylor asserts great sensitivity to an Act that she says she doesn’t know much about.
RevDeb @ 146
So…
She sent 66,000 emails during her lunch break ????
What about the TIME she spent on political issues ??
She’s trying to wordsmith her answwers and doesn’t ahve the skil to fence with an experienced prosecutor like Leahy. She’s f*ck’d
dakine01 @ 151
who is being paid by whom exactly?
A small crack …let the light shine in Sara
Leahy gets incredulous look on his face: “I almost think we’re in a practice run for the Attorney General here.” LOL 707
Sara says that she did do an e-mail review, and then sent the e-mails that were considered responsive to the SJC Subpoena to the White House.
Sara could face consequences for this very sloppy testimony.
Leahy is NOT letting her BS things and forcing her to give Yes or No answers.
Impeach.
Uh, Sara: the answer is ‘no’. Hashing things out with the White House is not the same as dealing with Congress.
OH F*ck her. Instead of responding to subpoena. Her attorney sent emails to WH.
Leahy: Can you answer a simple yes or no question?
Well, that determination was made by my attorney . . .
Yup – she just nodded to her right to acknowledge her attorney.
Her hands are flailing. She’s blinking rapidly.
Did Taylor say the reason rnc emails accounts and “duplicate equipment” were used was to avoid violations of the Hatch Act?
Will wonders never cease?
Leahy said “In America, no one is above the law”. He is so wrong because this is “Bush America” now. The Bush family, their cronies, and their toadies are all above the law. It is just like Republicans wanted when they sold their souls to them.
Did you speak with pres re: replacing USA’s?
Starts to talk aboutthe letter.
Leahy says: not the question. Don’t tell me what you said tell me if you had a conversation.
Sara: No dice. The President told me to STFU
Oh, I can see it now. Beating up on a poor Christian girl. Cue the boo-hoos.
-GSD
She’s basing her non-responsiveness on the gag letter from Fielding.
Obstruction, obstruction, obstruction
‘Ay hayve uh lettuh—’
Leahy really needs to point out that Congress has a jail cell.
What’s weird is that this Bush world is so closed up within itself that these crazies really don’t think they broke the law. So when they come face to face with it, they look incredulous and stutter.
Hey everybody, I have a letter that says I don’t havta say anything. Up Yours.
I don’t think Leahy is taking kindly to this.
Sara all you are is a sacrificial lamb to the Bush administration. Go ahead tell the truth and let the light shine in.
If she is going to invoke presidential privilege, she should be held in contempt.
Yep, that’s her attorney. Lives at the end of my street. He also represented some of the directors of Enron [who, needless to say, failed to exert oversight on Enron’s officers]. Good training for the WH criminals.
Spector up now. What a tool.
wow: even appearing HAS to be a risky highwire act … hubris much?
Ah, Leahy was a prosecutor in Vermont before getting into politics. This explains his expert “answer the question, please” filleting of Taylor.
Cue the wingnuts calling him a “mad dog” for picking on this poor widdle wallflower from Iowa.
Sara is retreating behind privilege and not answering Leahy’s questions on facts regarding meeting times, plans for USA replacement, or dates of actions.
Fuck you Specter
Specter getting out the kneepads.
Snarlin’ Arlen now carrying water for Chimpy.
I wonder what Chimpy has hanging over Arlen’s head. It must be pretty awful.
“I’ve got a letter” is the new “taking the 5th.”
Specter….grrr.
Let’s get something straight:
Gag orders come from judges.
Gag letters are worthless.
Saray, consider yourself lucky. The other victims of Bush’s megalomania are coming home in flagg draped coffins and mising limbs.
-GSD
Anyone know when Spector is up for re-election?
Specter…good job being a Bushie brownshirt and following party orders. Party over country party over country…
Parsin’ Arlen is saying she’s correct not to answer per the letter but that the courts will decide if the Pres is justified in having the letter issued.
Arlen trying to straddle both sides of the issue.
JAG-OFF…icer?
New thread…
She is a complete waste of space and time. Slap her with comtempt. As a citizen of Iowa, I am appaled at her lack of honesty and her hiding from her responsibility to tell the truth. She is obstructing justice and is part of the cover-up.
Specter: ‘I’m an Aquarius: the water carrier.’
Have to say that any sympathy I might have had for Taylor as a thirtysomething minor Bushie has vanished. She’s contemptuous and contemptible.
pseudonymous in nc @ 137
66,000. Jeeze, I don’t even get that much in spam!
mui @ 171
So did the RNC, didn’t they?
Sarah—-flag—missing.
-GSD
It is simply too easy to abuse the myth of “executive privilege”. It is time to do away with it. Secrecy protections for properly classified information is enough to protect whatever the government does. It is OUR government, by, for, and of the people afterall. They don’t get to act on their whims for their aggrandizement or self promotion, they act FOR us with OUR permission only.
I don’t believe that ANY President has not abused “executive privilege”. I believe that since it’s out-of-the-ether creation from nothing, it has MAINLY been abused to hide illegal or unethical activities from the public. Unacceptable. Period. We need to do away with so-called “executive privilege” entirely. No secrets from the people to whom you, as a public servant are responsible. It is a tool of criminality and dictatorship, plain and simple.
And now with Round One over, Poor Little Hatchet Job Girl retreats into the welcoming arms of “Maverick” Spector for huggy-wugs and smelling salts. Gag.
But wait! Spector’s forcing her to admit that some of the fired attorneys were indeed qualified to tell shit from Shinola, despite previous insinuations to the contrary. He’s not Leahy, but this isn’t going to be all cuddles for Taylor.
mauimom @ 193
2010.
And I’ll be there working hard to take him down.
Both Specter and Taylor lying about Griffin’s “substantial”, i.e. non-existent prosecutorial experience.
Awkwardly handled: translation: illegal and we got caught
So far, Sara has admitted to responding to the SJC Subpoena by sending the responsive e-mails to the White House.
RevDeb @ 205
Yay!
Shorter Sarah: Griffin was the logical choice. Cummins wanted to retire.
Good God, she’s stuttering when Specter talks to her. He says the word “McNulty” and she turns into Mel Tillis.
Arlen asked Sara a valid question re: Rove and Griffin, but Sara wouldn’t give up Rove and retreated behind privilege.
If Tim Griffin is such a good friend, I hope they ask about his caging activities…i.e. if she helped.
Sara just lied, used all of her tells, and said she didn’t know if Rove or Miers were involved in the Griffin case.
Ewww, Spector just tried to give a little “happy smile.” He looks creepy.
2010 – good. Lots of time to find a good Dem candidate & raise money.
…fellating Tim Griffin now
Leahy noting that all the Repubs were told about this meeting.
[I wonder if she and Monica Goodling had overnighters together where they tried different hairdos on each other…]
Arlen’s whining again about no Weeepubwicans. Leahy’s telling him to shut the eff up: “They could be here if they wanted to be here.”
Aha! A GOP ‘trick’! By NOT showing up they will NO DOUBT try to paint this entire thing as a purely “partisan” (Democratic) witch hunt. THAT is why they are not there…I would bet it was thought out and agreed upon for expressly this purpose.
Oooh! Getting into Wisconsin and Biskupic!
DiFi now asking about how USAs were selected to be fired. She’s forcing Taylor to look like a total ass by repeating “the letter from Mr. Fielding won’t let me answer that” over and over and over again, which in itself is damning as hell for Taylor.
They are WAY too soft on allowing this criminal (sara) to hide behind bogus “executive privilege” claims.
Don’t PERMIT her to hide so easily. CHALLENGE executive privilege here. Sheesh.
Sara: “I am so upset.” So are we.
To avoid actually addressing a DiFi question, Taylor’s going into a time-wasting spiel about How Upset she wuz over Griffin’s being picked on.
DiFi’s repeating the question, forcing her to either address it or look like a total bullshitting moron.
She’s so protective of Tim Griffin and his not being allowed to stay on as USA in Arkansas….BECAUSE THEN, THE PLAN FOR VOTER SUPPRESSION IN THE NEXT ELECTION COULDN’T BE CARRIED OUT.
everytime she assert privilege it’s a tell
I HEARD you, dumbsh*t, through the lawyer’s hand.
Gee, nobody in DoJ recalls anything, do they?
DiFi’s strategy is obviously to get Taylor to impungn herself by either saying “I don’t recall” or running for cover behind the Fielding gag letter.
THIS is one of the top Bushco advisors??
“unkind and unnecessary” and then the audio cuts out!
What’s going on?
ST is a bitch and responds with complete contempt. Send her to the slammer, I say. She is NOT a sympathetic figure in any way and I’m really pissed to be missing the Feinstein questions.
Can someone fill me in?
So let’s say Leahy does take this all the way and it goes to court. Even if a lower court concurs that these executive privilege claims are ludicrous, eventually the argument would have to be heard by the SCOTUS, as we know this administration will never accept a ruling by the lower courts. We all know, given their appalling performance during the last session, how that would end. It concerns me that we are in a situation where the Constitution and the rule of law no longer have ultimate authority, but I fear that that is exactly the case. Kudos to Leahy for the efforts, but I think the rats are going to win this rat race.
Schumer: Gently and effectively mocking Taylor’s/Fielding’s broad claims of privilege by pointing out how she’s answered Specter’s questions but not others.
Michele Manion @ 231
Michele, regardless of whether this is legally won, it’s still good to do because it reinforces in the public mind what crapweasels BushCo and their allies are.
I HEAR you Sara! Your whispering and hand-over-the-mic is NOT working for you.
Feinstein asked her if her intent was to avoid confirmation of USAs by
Senate ’cause that’s what Kyle Sampson said.
She claimed to only be upset that Tim Griffin didn’t get be interim USA for longer and that she did not try to circumvent senate confirmation for USAs.
Schumer: “Maybe your attorney can answer this.” Hinting that Taylor’s a puppet on strings who isn’t being allowed to breathe unless it’s cleared by her BushCo-approved attorney.
Now directly addressing her counsel!
Schumer’s doing a good job here.
Schumer just destroyed her attorney’s attempt to defend Fielding’s definition of exec. priv. He pointed out the gross inconsistencies in what they claimed was covered and in what questions they were answering, inconsistencies that made a blanket EP claim unsupportable.
“Political Director of the White House”
Karl Rove’s Karl Rove.
(the second banana’s second banana.
the assholes’ asshole.
Could be her introduction on the late night shows.
new thread
Durbin!
Refreshing brought back the audio.
I dunno – the Dems do not look strong to me in this questioning. Yes, Schumer has the better argument with ST’s lawyer but she “wins” by: 1) being a pretty blond, 2) trying to “respect” her former boss’s request not to discuss their “private” conversations. That’s how it looks to the uninformed (my Rethug family members). Stop calling her “young, loyal and talented” (Durbin). Just present her with the questions and hold her in contempt.
Christ on a cross. Unbelievable that these hacks (ST and KR) are working in the WH on the taxpayers’ dime.
If she had sat in on the WH Judicial Committee meetings she’d have violated the Hatch Act? Is that it?
And why is there a “political director” at the WH?
She’s lying about her knowledge of “caging”.
Oooh! Durbin calls out Rove and BushCo for leaving ST to answer Qs they should be answering. Nice move, helps deflect the “evil Dems picking on Poor Widdle Corn-Fed Blonde White Oppo Girl” meme the righties are going to be feeding the press.
Durbin then brings up vote caging and Goodling.
This is GREAT!
They were talking about Caging and she Brings up TIM Griffin!
“It is so terrible what “THEY” are saying about poor Tim Griffin”
But SHE gets to decide who is to be appointed a judge or USA.
What fuckups they are.
“Opposition research” can’t be done out of the White House, can it?
“Much more artful” – smartass and contemptuous on prior firings of USAs. Why is Whitehouse pursuing the line of Qs that he is? She’s just blathering and this is going nowhere!
Aaargh!!!
“Political landscape” overviews presented in the WH? Maybe Whitehouse is getting to something here … Did he just trap her?
Libby has to do 400 hours of community service. I hear he has volunteered at the zoo–in the bear department. No word on whether he is bringing any little girls with him. (If so, he can be the next “star” on “Predator”.)