Comments on: No Room http://firedoglake.com/2007/07/10/no-room/ Firedoglake weblog Wed, 25 Nov 2009 00:23:19 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: FighttheFuture http://firedoglake.com/2007/07/10/no-room/#comment-811329 FighttheFuture Tue, 10 Jul 2007 19:43:55 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/07/10/no-room/#comment-811329 <p>Some are really over analyzing Bush, at this point. He is part of a criminal cartel and is twisting all of our laws and precepts to cover his ass, his cronies asses, and the soft coup they have engineered while they continue their looting and reign of terror upon the world. </p> <p>Enough already. </p> <p>Try, convict for treason, hang by the neck until dead. Repeat again for each crony criminal traitor. Jail the ones not found to be traitors, but simple criminals, with jail for life; no pardons, no commutations. Simple, powerful and it will put us back to start regaining our national sanity and reputation!</p> Some are really over analyzing Bush, at this point. He is part of a criminal cartel and is twisting all of our laws and precepts to cover his ass, his cronies asses, and the soft coup they have engineered while they continue their looting and reign of terror upon the world.

Enough already.

Try, convict for treason, hang by the neck until dead. Repeat again for each crony criminal traitor. Jail the ones not found to be traitors, but simple criminals, with jail for life; no pardons, no commutations. Simple, powerful and it will put us back to start regaining our national sanity and reputation!

]]> By: shep http://firedoglake.com/2007/07/10/no-room/#comment-810835 shep Tue, 10 Jul 2007 16:09:46 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/07/10/no-room/#comment-810835 <p>Vedantam <a href="http://www.rubyan.com/politics/2007/04/social_science_for_dummies.html">does regular flackery</a> for the Bush Administration under the cover of social science.</p> <p>Couldn’t just be buying Libby’s silence, after all.</p> Vedantam does regular flackery for the Bush Administration under the cover of social science.

Couldn’t just be buying Libby’s silence, after all.

]]> By: Starbuck http://firedoglake.com/2007/07/10/no-room/#comment-810766 Starbuck Tue, 10 Jul 2007 15:39:31 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/07/10/no-room/#comment-810766 <p>It occurred to me after posting that the administration really thinks that they are not a government agency, but a corporation called USA.</p> <p>What a thought! We are getting an inside view of how corporations really operate!</p> It occurred to me after posting that the administration really thinks that they are not a government agency, but a corporation called USA.

What a thought! We are getting an inside view of how corporations really operate!

]]> By: DeanOR http://firedoglake.com/2007/07/10/no-room/#comment-810765 DeanOR Tue, 10 Jul 2007 15:39:22 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/07/10/no-room/#comment-810765 <p>The authors appear to be seriously mis-applying a psychological concept. (I can’t tell how much of that to attribute to the original writers and how much to the WaPo writer). They make the mistake of identifying the Bushies behavior with the unconscious defense mechanisms of normal people.<br /> For starters, the internal tension called cognitive dissonance is only one of the dynamics within a person, and the distortions it leads to can be corrected through awareness and reasoning.<br /> Secondly, Bushies are not normal people.<br /> More importantly, we know that much of the Bushie’s thinking is deliberate, conscious, lying to manipulate the American public. That can not be explained away by the normal internal tensions created by unconscious cognitive dissonance in normal people who are capable of empathy and have a conscience.</p> The authors appear to be seriously mis-applying a psychological concept. (I can’t tell how much of that to attribute to the original writers and how much to the WaPo writer). They make the mistake of identifying the Bushies behavior with the unconscious defense mechanisms of normal people.
For starters, the internal tension called cognitive dissonance is only one of the dynamics within a person, and the distortions it leads to can be corrected through awareness and reasoning.
Secondly, Bushies are not normal people.
More importantly, we know that much of the Bushie’s thinking is deliberate, conscious, lying to manipulate the American public. That can not be explained away by the normal internal tensions created by unconscious cognitive dissonance in normal people who are capable of empathy and have a conscience.

]]> By: Starbuck http://firedoglake.com/2007/07/10/no-room/#comment-810753 Starbuck Tue, 10 Jul 2007 15:35:04 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/07/10/no-room/#comment-810753 <p><a href="#comment-810499"><em>Christy Hardin Smith @ 22</em></a></p> <blockquote><p>Morning all. Coffee is fresh and it’s looking like another scorching yet lovely day outside. How is everyone this morning?</p></blockquote> <p>Getting really hot (101F today, in Portland OR!)</p> <p>I copied this from the post::</p> <p> …It is an exquisite example of self-justification because the good guys are defined as those who are loyal to the cause even if the cause is wrong.”</p> <p>Change “Cause’ to “Corporation”.</p> Christy Hardin Smith @ 22

Morning all. Coffee is fresh and it’s looking like another scorching yet lovely day outside. How is everyone this morning?

Getting really hot (101F today, in Portland OR!)

I copied this from the post::

…It is an exquisite example of self-justification because the good guys are defined as those who are loyal to the cause even if the cause is wrong.”

Change “Cause’ to “Corporation”.

]]> By: Madison Guy http://firedoglake.com/2007/07/10/no-room/#comment-810701 Madison Guy Tue, 10 Jul 2007 15:02:43 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/07/10/no-room/#comment-810701 <p>Libby’s boss in the last refuge of a <strike>scoundrel</strike> Cheney: <a href="http://letterfromhere.blogspot.com/2007/07/are-those-dick-cheneys-eyes.html">The patriotic pumpkin patch.</a></p> Libby’s boss in the last refuge of a scoundrel Cheney: The patriotic pumpkin patch.

]]> By: quake http://firedoglake.com/2007/07/10/no-room/#comment-810697 quake Tue, 10 Jul 2007 15:00:24 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/07/10/no-room/#comment-810697 <p><a href="#comment-810533"><em>realworld @ 55</em></a></p> <blockquote><p>Just dreaming but I don’t think even the President can pardon violations of international law. What if there were extradition demands from the Hague on ‘09?</p></blockquote> <p>IANAL, but I think the U.S. has opted out, so an extradition demand wouldn’t be actionable. Some sort of extrajudcial extraordinary rendition of Bush and Cheney might be the way to solve the problem.</p> realworld @ 55

Just dreaming but I don’t think even the President can pardon violations of international law. What if there were extradition demands from the Hague on ‘09?

IANAL, but I think the U.S. has opted out, so an extradition demand wouldn’t be actionable. Some sort of extrajudcial extraordinary rendition of Bush and Cheney might be the way to solve the problem.

]]> By: quake http://firedoglake.com/2007/07/10/no-room/#comment-810691 quake Tue, 10 Jul 2007 14:57:19 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/07/10/no-room/#comment-810691 <p><a href="#comment-810480"><em>RevDeb @ 5</em></a></p> <blockquote><p>Will we ever crawl out of the hole we fell into? (or to be more accurate, were pushed into.)</p></blockquote> <p>Sure, but it will take a long time. Maybe France after loisng colonial wars in Vietnam (1954) and Algeria (1961-62) is a good example.</p> RevDeb @ 5

Will we ever crawl out of the hole we fell into? (or to be more accurate, were pushed into.)

Sure, but it will take a long time. Maybe France after loisng colonial wars in Vietnam (1954) and Algeria (1961-62) is a good example.

]]> By: Madison Guy http://firedoglake.com/2007/07/10/no-room/#comment-810686 Madison Guy Tue, 10 Jul 2007 14:55:32 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/07/10/no-room/#comment-810686 <p>Libby’s boss in the last refuge of a scoundrel Cheney: <a href="http://letterfromhere.blogspot.com/2007/07/are-those-dick-cheneys-eyes.html">The patriotic pumpkin patch.</a></p> Libby’s boss in the last refuge of a scoundrel Cheney: The patriotic pumpkin patch.

]]> By: Sacanagem http://firedoglake.com/2007/07/10/no-room/#comment-810641 Sacanagem Tue, 10 Jul 2007 14:28:52 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/07/10/no-room/#comment-810641 <p><a href="#comment-810616"><em>IrishJim @ 126</em></a></p> <blockquote><p><a href="#comment-810592"><em>Sacanagem @ 113</em></a></p> <p>Thanks for the feedback. I was doing a little research and found that Rob Huber is actively running. He has some good credentials but seems a little “over the hill”. Will Shulte be running again? I feel sorry for you. I at least have Boswell as my Rep. I just can’t stand Steve King. He is a complete GOP Hack Wingnut!</p></blockquote> <p>Don’t feel too sorry for me - I haven’t lived there for 25 years. There’s a reason I fled at the age of 22…</p> <p>I don’t know the local candidates that well, but I just peeked at the 2006 results. Huber seems a bit advanced in years, but his platform is pretty good for that district. </p> <p>As conservative as the district is, those people hate Bush and they hate Iraq. (and they hate immigrants.) If a Dem candidate can step in and tie Bush around Steve King’s neck, I think they could stand a chance to win in 2008.</p> <p>Just looked online again, and I see that Steve King is considering running for the Senate against Tom Harkin. Talk about delusional wingnuts…</p> IrishJim @ 126

Sacanagem @ 113

Thanks for the feedback. I was doing a little research and found that Rob Huber is actively running. He has some good credentials but seems a little “over the hill”. Will Shulte be running again? I feel sorry for you. I at least have Boswell as my Rep. I just can’t stand Steve King. He is a complete GOP Hack Wingnut!

Don’t feel too sorry for me – I haven’t lived there for 25 years. There’s a reason I fled at the age of 22…

I don’t know the local candidates that well, but I just peeked at the 2006 results. Huber seems a bit advanced in years, but his platform is pretty good for that district.

As conservative as the district is, those people hate Bush and they hate Iraq. (and they hate immigrants.) If a Dem candidate can step in and tie Bush around Steve King’s neck, I think they could stand a chance to win in 2008.

Just looked online again, and I see that Steve King is considering running for the Senate against Tom Harkin. Talk about delusional wingnuts…

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