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		<title>By: anku</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/07/09/sicko-citizenship-and-what-were-missing/#comment-811216</link>
		<dc:creator>anku</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2007 18:57:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://crookedtimber.org/2007/07/07/theyre-penetrating-the-bureaucracy/#more-6020&quot;&gt;http://crookedtimber.org/2007/.....#more-6020&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Interesting analysis for parents of young children.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<p>Interesting analysis for parents of young children.</p>
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		<title>By: Kimmitt</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/07/09/sicko-citizenship-and-what-were-missing/#comment-811201</link>
		<dc:creator>Kimmitt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2007 18:50:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Incrementalism is a trap in which babies die.  Sicko activism cannot be channeled in that direction, so let’s actually aim for policy that’s worth having.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Incrementalism is a trap in which babies die.  Sicko activism cannot be channeled in that direction, so let’s actually aim for policy that’s worth having.</p>
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		<title>By: Crippled Dude</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/07/09/sicko-citizenship-and-what-were-missing/#comment-811151</link>
		<dc:creator>Crippled Dude</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2007 18:29:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I had never heard of PHNP before reading this blog today. The criticism i’ve heard so far has been they “don’t play well with others”. The “OTHERS” aren’t playing -they’re bloodsucking parasites. I’m not interested in playing , not at all. I’m ready to go to serious , scorched Earth war with the thieving health care system of this country - for me it is absolutely a matter of life and death.And that is not a figure of speech as I use it here and now. If PHNP is the most hard-headed ,extreme , and militant organization going right now - I’m gonna check out how to donate a few bucks and maybe some time to them. If anyone knows of another group that is ready to force things to happen - let mne know through these comments.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had never heard of PHNP before reading this blog today. The criticism i’ve heard so far has been they “don’t play well with others”. The “OTHERS” aren’t playing -they’re bloodsucking parasites. I’m not interested in playing , not at all. I’m ready to go to serious , scorched Earth war with the thieving health care system of this country &#8211; for me it is absolutely a matter of life and death.And that is not a figure of speech as I use it here and now. If PHNP is the most hard-headed ,extreme , and militant organization going right now &#8211; I’m gonna check out how to donate a few bucks and maybe some time to them. If anyone knows of another group that is ready to force things to happen &#8211; let mne know through these comments.</p>
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		<title>By: DrDave</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/07/09/sicko-citizenship-and-what-were-missing/#comment-811039</link>
		<dc:creator>DrDave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2007 17:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Interesting that the latest CNN piece on SICKO is a setup:&lt;br /&gt;
Their own producer, Ms. Chris Gajilan, fact checked the movie and gave it a clean bill of health. Now Gupta does a hit piece. Doesn’t CNN read their own reports? This is an obvious setup.&lt;br /&gt;
DrDave&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting that the latest CNN piece on SICKO is a setup:<br />
Their own producer, Ms. Chris Gajilan, fact checked the movie and gave it a clean bill of health. Now Gupta does a hit piece. Doesn’t CNN read their own reports? This is an obvious setup.<br />
DrDave</p>
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		<title>By: timr</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/07/09/sicko-citizenship-and-what-were-missing/#comment-810954</link>
		<dc:creator>timr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2007 17:18:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I had health care ins in my Fed govt job, and my wife also had ins from her auto plant job(hers was about 100% better than mine) then we retired, well I got a medical retirement and my wife’s job went to mexico, so both of us on my health ins. Spending just about $5K a year out of pocket for meds, Dr’s and various deductibles. Then we moved fairly close to a VA hospital(and I thought about using my 100% VA disability for health care) now my wife is covered under CHAMPVA and the VA hospital system, and I get 90% of my health care from the VA. Total cash outlay last year-$50 deductible for my wife,all meds free. Everything free for me, so canceled my health ins(that I was paying $225 a month for-just for the ins) no more $50 co pay for meds. They only thing necessary to get this, is a 100% disability, which I earned in Vietnam over 30 years ago. BUT my point is that the US already has(underfunded) a very good start on universal health care, they get the newest technology, access to all the best drugs(at negotiated prices with big pharma no less) and since the VA hospitals are quite often located near medical schools/teaching hospitals, lots of very good Dr’s. So we, as a country don’t really need to go to far to find out how a single payer insurance system would work, just look to the VA/CHAMPVA medical care systems to find out. Many many years ago my father was a member of the SIU(seamans international union) which had union hospitals located at major seaports all over the world-he was sent to England for his first hip replacement surgery, and NYC for his second.(the following is all according to the union POV, I don’t know if its true or not) The fedgov took over the union hospitals in the US and turned them into to public health hospitals, I do know that is what happened to the one in NYC(staten island) and also one in Chicago, but not the rest.&lt;br /&gt;
The point is that those hospitals that the govt is now running, and the VA system could serve as a core to universal health care. Medicare(dispite what bushco says about govt run programs, and how much better the “free market” is) spends 97% of all its money on health care, and only about 3% on the admin part of it. Does anyone think that a private company could do better? Think about it, the VA, if expanded enough, (and provided enough money) could indeed run health care. Just as a BTW, my wife uses CHAMPVA to see several different Dr’s,regular deductible,and just like regular health ins in every way. And the meds that she gets are not, repeat not, mostly generic, but top of the line(some are so new that the Dr’s don’t know about them) with the VA negotiating the price of the drugs(something that the REPIG congress refused to let medicare do when they came out with part D)&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had health care ins in my Fed govt job, and my wife also had ins from her auto plant job(hers was about 100% better than mine) then we retired, well I got a medical retirement and my wife’s job went to mexico, so both of us on my health ins. Spending just about $5K a year out of pocket for meds, Dr’s and various deductibles. Then we moved fairly close to a VA hospital(and I thought about using my 100% VA disability for health care) now my wife is covered under CHAMPVA and the VA hospital system, and I get 90% of my health care from the VA. Total cash outlay last year-$50 deductible for my wife,all meds free. Everything free for me, so canceled my health ins(that I was paying $225 a month for-just for the ins) no more $50 co pay for meds. They only thing necessary to get this, is a 100% disability, which I earned in Vietnam over 30 years ago. BUT my point is that the US already has(underfunded) a very good start on universal health care, they get the newest technology, access to all the best drugs(at negotiated prices with big pharma no less) and since the VA hospitals are quite often located near medical schools/teaching hospitals, lots of very good Dr’s. So we, as a country don’t really need to go to far to find out how a single payer insurance system would work, just look to the VA/CHAMPVA medical care systems to find out. Many many years ago my father was a member of the SIU(seamans international union) which had union hospitals located at major seaports all over the world-he was sent to England for his first hip replacement surgery, and NYC for his second.(the following is all according to the union POV, I don’t know if its true or not) The fedgov took over the union hospitals in the US and turned them into to public health hospitals, I do know that is what happened to the one in NYC(staten island) and also one in Chicago, but not the rest.<br />
The point is that those hospitals that the govt is now running, and the VA system could serve as a core to universal health care. Medicare(dispite what bushco says about govt run programs, and how much better the “free market” is) spends 97% of all its money on health care, and only about 3% on the admin part of it. Does anyone think that a private company could do better? Think about it, the VA, if expanded enough, (and provided enough money) could indeed run health care. Just as a BTW, my wife uses CHAMPVA to see several different Dr’s,regular deductible,and just like regular health ins in every way. And the meds that she gets are not, repeat not, mostly generic, but top of the line(some are so new that the Dr’s don’t know about them) with the VA negotiating the price of the drugs(something that the REPIG congress refused to let medicare do when they came out with part D)</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/07/09/sicko-citizenship-and-what-were-missing/#comment-810763</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2007 15:38:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;STFU says the insurance companies or we’ll cancel all your policies.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: moose</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/07/09/sicko-citizenship-and-what-were-missing/#comment-810647</link>
		<dc:creator>moose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2007 14:32:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;“Our health care activist infrastructure is fractured and weak.”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And that ain’t the only thing. Everywhere around the progressive blogosphere, I see these whines of “Donate”! Yeah sure. If I was still a working stiff, I might &lt;b&gt;waste&lt;/b&gt; a few bucks. Now, I wonder, are there no “Angels” in this opposition camp?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I cannot believe an entire national political party in the U.S. of A. has no support of anyone without money to spare to sponsor a blog, website, or cause. Really!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The First Thing to identify on this topic is the difference between health care, health insurance, and health access.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I can testify firsthand that the insurance industry sucks bigtime. When my aged mother collapsed and ended up in hospital in 2002, and I was back stateside two days later, she had already been transferred to ‘a nursing home’. Uh huh, how and why? NO answer. The hospital would not release any information to me, the only relative, protecting patient privacy, you know.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Anyway, no one at the nursing home could explain how she got there. I never saw a doctor in all the time she was there. But I did see an administrator and a human resources person, who advised me to cancel mojm’s private health insurance forthwith. Eh? Because “she needs physiotherapy and her benefits have already run out”. Cutting a long story short, she’d only been seriously ill (?) a very few days. After years of premiums. Hmmmm.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And aside from the personal factor, I learned of the interesting lurks of the industry in the state of Florida. Come in, lowball the prospective clientele, suck up a lot of customers. After the administrative overheads, woops! we’rew bankrupt.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Never mind, the scheme plays out this way: the parent company sends out letters to the former customers, sign with us and no change, sort of thing … oh wow, we get to keep our health insurance. Yeah. Only, it’s the SAME giant ripoff company, the mailing list has only changed  hands. Et bloody cetera.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;As an aside of insurance: note how the ripoff has happened in NOLA since Katrina: anywhere from 4X cover for individual home owners to 7X for small business operators, if any can cope with that …&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Mom didn’t die in the first nursing home, despite falling out of a wheelchair. Thanks to Political Correctness, “we can’t restrain a patient” yeah, never mind she’s not ‘with it’ at the best of times now. But for me, with no diagnosis of why, but with a $14K bill from the hospital with the one=line itemisation of “tests”. For what? We can’t tell you. Blah.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It’s not only insurance, it’s the whole damn system. Some months back, I found a webpage about ‘inflation’ with a nice graph showing a dozen items that’d increased over the past 30 years. The biggest was health: 200X {not percentage, 200 &lt;b&gt;times&lt;/b&gt; ) and a couple of items had actually gone down.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Remember that Rumsfeld’s lean mean high-tech fighting machine was supposed to solve Iraq — and we’re still there. Similarly, every high-tech medical test recommended is probably only there to spin some money into the system. My late wife nearly died because all the fancy tests revealed nothing — and an old-fashioned x-ray at a hospital emergency room showed an external colon tumor that led to an instant operation.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Technology is only as good as the medical practitioners than can cope with it — and insurance is only as good as coverage it purports to provide.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“Our health care activist infrastructure is fractured and weak.”</p>
<p>And that ain’t the only thing. Everywhere around the progressive blogosphere, I see these whines of “Donate”! Yeah sure. If I was still a working stiff, I might <b>waste</b> a few bucks. Now, I wonder, are there no “Angels” in this opposition camp?</p>
<p>I cannot believe an entire national political party in the U.S. of A. has no support of anyone without money to spare to sponsor a blog, website, or cause. Really!</p>
<p>The First Thing to identify on this topic is the difference between health care, health insurance, and health access.</p>
<p>I can testify firsthand that the insurance industry sucks bigtime. When my aged mother collapsed and ended up in hospital in 2002, and I was back stateside two days later, she had already been transferred to ‘a nursing home’. Uh huh, how and why? NO answer. The hospital would not release any information to me, the only relative, protecting patient privacy, you know.</p>
<p>Anyway, no one at the nursing home could explain how she got there. I never saw a doctor in all the time she was there. But I did see an administrator and a human resources person, who advised me to cancel mojm’s private health insurance forthwith. Eh? Because “she needs physiotherapy and her benefits have already run out”. Cutting a long story short, she’d only been seriously ill (?) a very few days. After years of premiums. Hmmmm.</p>
<p>And aside from the personal factor, I learned of the interesting lurks of the industry in the state of Florida. Come in, lowball the prospective clientele, suck up a lot of customers. After the administrative overheads, woops! we’rew bankrupt.</p>
<p>Never mind, the scheme plays out this way: the parent company sends out letters to the former customers, sign with us and no change, sort of thing … oh wow, we get to keep our health insurance. Yeah. Only, it’s the SAME giant ripoff company, the mailing list has only changed  hands. Et bloody cetera.</p>
<p>As an aside of insurance: note how the ripoff has happened in NOLA since Katrina: anywhere from 4X cover for individual home owners to 7X for small business operators, if any can cope with that …</p>
<p>Mom didn’t die in the first nursing home, despite falling out of a wheelchair. Thanks to Political Correctness, “we can’t restrain a patient” yeah, never mind she’s not ‘with it’ at the best of times now. But for me, with no diagnosis of why, but with a $14K bill from the hospital with the one=line itemisation of “tests”. For what? We can’t tell you. Blah.</p>
<p>It’s not only insurance, it’s the whole damn system. Some months back, I found a webpage about ‘inflation’ with a nice graph showing a dozen items that’d increased over the past 30 years. The biggest was health: 200X {not percentage, 200 <b>times</b> ) and a couple of items had actually gone down.</p>
<p>Remember that Rumsfeld’s lean mean high-tech fighting machine was supposed to solve Iraq — and we’re still there. Similarly, every high-tech medical test recommended is probably only there to spin some money into the system. My late wife nearly died because all the fancy tests revealed nothing — and an old-fashioned x-ray at a hospital emergency room showed an external colon tumor that led to an instant operation.</p>
<p>Technology is only as good as the medical practitioners than can cope with it — and insurance is only as good as coverage it purports to provide.</p>
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		<title>By: Fred</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/07/09/sicko-citizenship-and-what-were-missing/#comment-810460</link>
		<dc:creator>Fred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2007 11:12:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-809559&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Robert Paehlke @ 60&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;In Canada universal single-payer health care began in one province (Saskatchewan) and spread to the nation. There was a doctor’s strike in Saskatchewan in opposition, but it was beaten back. At this point Moore in Sicko is exactly correct: the is no opposition (of consequence) to the present system — it is supported by left and right and center, as well as health care professionals. Weakening the system would be political suicide not only for a government or a Prime Minister, but for the political party with which they were affiliated.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Canada is not so healthy as you might believe. In Canada we have our own “Sicko’ system. For instance, if you are injured at work we have our own government run workers compensation system. It is based on the same insurance model as the U.S. Injured workers are EXCLUDED from the Canada Health Act, leaving the workers comp government run insurance program completely in charge of a persons care. What is wrong with that? Well, if you are seriously injred and unable to go back to your job, the workers comp will try everything in their powwer to delay and deny medical and wage loss benefits. When they commit fraud, manipulation of medical evidence, and don’t send you for tests and therapy etc., then you are in fact a prisoner of the workers comp system. Why? because your legal right to charge the workers comp for a crime is also removed through legislation. Workers comp then has complete control of your life. The only guarantee is a life of pain and poverty enforced on you because they don’t want to pay the legislated benefits. Oh yes! Canada is a “sicko” country also.  Thousands are committing suicide all across Canada because workers comp subjects the victim to an appeal process that drags out for years. In the meantime, you are not getting treated medically and suffer from poverty because workers comp does not pay while you await appeals. That is reserved only for workers comp employees. Discrimination, human rights abuses, crime, is all committed here in Canada. Unfortunately, it is not from a private for profit insurance company, it is at the hands of our own Provincial governments (Same as State government). What we all need acros ALL of North America is to remove ALL these insurance companies from the medical care field, everywhere. They only have one interest. Profit for themselves, to hell with a dying or disabled person. This is what needs to be changed and that cannot be accomplished until these insurance companies are removed PERMANENTLY from health care issues. They have shown they are not to be trusted in any way.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Michael Moore is right about the insurance companies. What he fails to realize is that it is more far reaching than anyone has considered. The blame lies in the insurance industry model of deny! deny! deny! to contain costs. Thus feathering their own nests at the expense of the sick and injured.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Injured workers in Canada support Michael Moores plan for Universal health care. We all need it. Visit the site below to see what we are doing to expose the psychopathic behaviour of these companies, whether they be private or government run, they are all the one and the same.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://wcbcanada.com/modules/WCB-BB/viewtopic.php?p=21230#21230&quot;&gt;http://wcbcanada.com/modules/W.....1230#21230&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;We must come together as one strong voice to state publicly and loudly that our human rights are being abused for the sake of a few people who want the lavish lifestyle that can only be obtained by denying benefits to the sick and injured. NO MORE! The revolution in healthcare has begun! See also “The Canadian Injured Workers” website. I am sure the information you find there will help your cause in the U.S. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ciws.ca&quot;&gt;www.ciws.ca&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;As Mr. moore said. “There are more of us than there are of them.”&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-809559"><em>Robert Paehlke @ 60</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>In Canada universal single-payer health care began in one province (Saskatchewan) and spread to the nation. There was a doctor’s strike in Saskatchewan in opposition, but it was beaten back. At this point Moore in Sicko is exactly correct: the is no opposition (of consequence) to the present system — it is supported by left and right and center, as well as health care professionals. Weakening the system would be political suicide not only for a government or a Prime Minister, but for the political party with which they were affiliated.</p>
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<p>Canada is not so healthy as you might believe. In Canada we have our own “Sicko’ system. For instance, if you are injured at work we have our own government run workers compensation system. It is based on the same insurance model as the U.S. Injured workers are EXCLUDED from the Canada Health Act, leaving the workers comp government run insurance program completely in charge of a persons care. What is wrong with that? Well, if you are seriously injred and unable to go back to your job, the workers comp will try everything in their powwer to delay and deny medical and wage loss benefits. When they commit fraud, manipulation of medical evidence, and don’t send you for tests and therapy etc., then you are in fact a prisoner of the workers comp system. Why? because your legal right to charge the workers comp for a crime is also removed through legislation. Workers comp then has complete control of your life. The only guarantee is a life of pain and poverty enforced on you because they don’t want to pay the legislated benefits. Oh yes! Canada is a “sicko” country also.  Thousands are committing suicide all across Canada because workers comp subjects the victim to an appeal process that drags out for years. In the meantime, you are not getting treated medically and suffer from poverty because workers comp does not pay while you await appeals. That is reserved only for workers comp employees. Discrimination, human rights abuses, crime, is all committed here in Canada. Unfortunately, it is not from a private for profit insurance company, it is at the hands of our own Provincial governments (Same as State government). What we all need acros ALL of North America is to remove ALL these insurance companies from the medical care field, everywhere. They only have one interest. Profit for themselves, to hell with a dying or disabled person. This is what needs to be changed and that cannot be accomplished until these insurance companies are removed PERMANENTLY from health care issues. They have shown they are not to be trusted in any way.</p>
<p>Michael Moore is right about the insurance companies. What he fails to realize is that it is more far reaching than anyone has considered. The blame lies in the insurance industry model of deny! deny! deny! to contain costs. Thus feathering their own nests at the expense of the sick and injured.</p>
<p>Injured workers in Canada support Michael Moores plan for Universal health care. We all need it. Visit the site below to see what we are doing to expose the psychopathic behaviour of these companies, whether they be private or government run, they are all the one and the same.<br />
<a href="http://wcbcanada.com/modules/WCB-BB/viewtopic.php?p=21230#21230">http://wcbcanada.com/modules/W&#8230;..1230#21230</a></p>
<p>We must come together as one strong voice to state publicly and loudly that our human rights are being abused for the sake of a few people who want the lavish lifestyle that can only be obtained by denying benefits to the sick and injured. NO MORE! The revolution in healthcare has begun! See also “The Canadian Injured Workers” website. I am sure the information you find there will help your cause in the U.S. <a href="http://www.ciws.ca">http://www.ciws.ca</a></p>
<p>As Mr. moore said. “There are more of us than there are of them.”</p>
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		<title>By: RacyMind</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/07/09/sicko-citizenship-and-what-were-missing/#comment-810459</link>
		<dc:creator>RacyMind</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2007 11:08:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I have got to give it to the PNHP … to degrade them for a purist attitude or fearing that they wont make good coalition partners is missing their greatest strength. The movement for any major national reform is going to need a buttload of physicians on board as supporters.  With PNHP on your side opponents  can’t say ” the doctors don’t think it will work.”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The doctors are in the heart of the system, and I think I know why half-assed measures are repulsive to the PNHP - they know that anything but single payer is going to open up the box for insurance companies to get in even deeper - they know the enemy better than we do.  As a nurse, I promise I think twice before I join up with a bunch of doctors.  I am with them here.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have got to give it to the PNHP … to degrade them for a purist attitude or fearing that they wont make good coalition partners is missing their greatest strength. The movement for any major national reform is going to need a buttload of physicians on board as supporters.  With PNHP on your side opponents  can’t say ” the doctors don’t think it will work.”</p>
<p>The doctors are in the heart of the system, and I think I know why half-assed measures are repulsive to the PNHP &#8211; they know that anything but single payer is going to open up the box for insurance companies to get in even deeper &#8211; they know the enemy better than we do.  As a nurse, I promise I think twice before I join up with a bunch of doctors.  I am with them here.</p>
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		<title>By: Cara</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/07/09/sicko-citizenship-and-what-were-missing/#comment-810454</link>
		<dc:creator>Cara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2007 10:44:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;This actually happened in Arlington which is in Tarrant County and is a suburb of Fort Worth.  Fort Worth is even more conservative than Dallas so this is a real big deal!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I was born and raised there but now live in Dallas.  For a while it was scary to drive just about anywhere in Texas with anything that was even remotely in support of Dems on your bumper.  In Dallas it is much safer now.  Fort Worth-not so much:-)&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This actually happened in Arlington which is in Tarrant County and is a suburb of Fort Worth.  Fort Worth is even more conservative than Dallas so this is a real big deal!</p>
<p>I was born and raised there but now live in Dallas.  For a while it was scary to drive just about anywhere in Texas with anything that was even remotely in support of Dems on your bumper.  In Dallas it is much safer now.  Fort Worth-not so much:-)</p>
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