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		<title>By: cinnamonape</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/07/08/illusion/#comment-806770</link>
		<dc:creator>cinnamonape</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jul 2007 16:52:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-806676&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Stephen Parrish, CPA @ 81&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;cinnamonape @ 8:38 am -&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;To the best of my knowledge, Congress has not passed legislation to establish the parallel means you mentioned in your interesting comment.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Please note that Section 4 does not contain a comparable means for declaring that the Vice President is unable to discharge his duties; Section 2 of the 25th Amendment discusses what happens in case of a vacancy in the office of the Vice President.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Neither has Congress specifically established HOW the VP and the Cabinet are to ascertain the incapacity of the President to fulfill his duties. Is it the VP that determines it on his own, or do the Cabinet members vote? What’s a quorum? Is a law needed to determine this also?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Similarly, since Congress is allowed to compose Committees and Rules to fulfill it’s functions such a Committee would be legally able to be Constituted as the need arose, just as the VP/Cabinet would develop their own procedures.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And I never said that the VP could be removed from his duties using THIS criteria. The VP can be impeached, however. A resignation or death can also vacate the office. There is some debate as to whether a President can fire a truculent VP…although he can basically limit his powers to the point that his role is that of a “bucket of spit”. His role would be circumscribed to being the Parliamentary President of the Senate (and tie-vote breaker).&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-806676"><em>Stephen Parrish, CPA @ 81</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>cinnamonape @ 8:38 am -</p>
<p>To the best of my knowledge, Congress has not passed legislation to establish the parallel means you mentioned in your interesting comment.</p>
<p>Please note that Section 4 does not contain a comparable means for declaring that the Vice President is unable to discharge his duties; Section 2 of the 25th Amendment discusses what happens in case of a vacancy in the office of the Vice President.</p>
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<p>Neither has Congress specifically established HOW the VP and the Cabinet are to ascertain the incapacity of the President to fulfill his duties. Is it the VP that determines it on his own, or do the Cabinet members vote? What’s a quorum? Is a law needed to determine this also?</p>
<p>Similarly, since Congress is allowed to compose Committees and Rules to fulfill it’s functions such a Committee would be legally able to be Constituted as the need arose, just as the VP/Cabinet would develop their own procedures.</p>
<p>And I never said that the VP could be removed from his duties using THIS criteria. The VP can be impeached, however. A resignation or death can also vacate the office. There is some debate as to whether a President can fire a truculent VP…although he can basically limit his powers to the point that his role is that of a “bucket of spit”. His role would be circumscribed to being the Parliamentary President of the Senate (and tie-vote breaker).</p>
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		<title>By: TheraP</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/07/08/illusion/#comment-806734</link>
		<dc:creator>TheraP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jul 2007 16:34:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;One big way to support the troops:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Let’s have a single payer national health insurance.  So we can tap into the huge mental health resources available out here - for the mental anguish they’ve suffered.  The VA will never, ever be able to service all of them!  Enlarge the coverage for them and all.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And for their physical wounds of course.  There is simply no reason they should have to fight for the best of care.  Nor should anyone be denied that!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One big way to support the troops:</p>
<p>Let’s have a single payer national health insurance.  So we can tap into the huge mental health resources available out here &#8211; for the mental anguish they’ve suffered.  The VA will never, ever be able to service all of them!  Enlarge the coverage for them and all.</p>
<p>And for their physical wounds of course.  There is simply no reason they should have to fight for the best of care.  Nor should anyone be denied that!</p>
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		<title>By: Educated Plaintiff</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/07/08/illusion/#comment-806684</link>
		<dc:creator>Educated Plaintiff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jul 2007 16:07:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-806631&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;raven @ 67&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Rick Lowry is the one spouting the narrative crap.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;he was fired up but unfortunately also tangled up in the web of mis-truths he wove on george stephanopoulos’ show.  pathetic really, since he has such an important pulpit to preach from.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-806631"><em>raven @ 67</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Rick Lowry is the one spouting the narrative crap.</p>
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<p>he was fired up but unfortunately also tangled up in the web of mis-truths he wove on george stephanopoulos’ show.  pathetic really, since he has such an important pulpit to preach from.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen Parrish, CPA</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/07/08/illusion/#comment-806676</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephen Parrish, CPA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jul 2007 16:02:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;cinnamonape @ 8:38 am -&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;To the best of my knowledge, Congress has not passed legislation to establish the parallel means you mentioned in your interesting comment.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Please note that Section 4 does not contain a comparable means for declaring that the Vice President is unable to discharge his duties; Section 2 of the 25th Amendment discusses what happens in case of a vacancy in the office of the Vice President.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>cinnamonape @ 8:38 am -</p>
<p>To the best of my knowledge, Congress has not passed legislation to establish the parallel means you mentioned in your interesting comment.</p>
<p>Please note that Section 4 does not contain a comparable means for declaring that the Vice President is unable to discharge his duties; Section 2 of the 25th Amendment discusses what happens in case of a vacancy in the office of the Vice President.</p>
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		<title>By: noen</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/07/08/illusion/#comment-806668</link>
		<dc:creator>noen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jul 2007 15:59:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-806642&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Citizen Jane @ 73&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Raven @ 64&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Once it works its way out there, an idea is poisonous. I recently saw a student saying in her prospectus that she was going to apply the ideas of a particular philosophical approach (I think it was structuralism) and another one (use of semiotics) yet she could not define either term–structuralism or semiotics–nor could she name more than one expert in each field.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Ai, yi, yi!!!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I felt like I was reading a neo-con handbook on feces flinging!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Umberto Eco on Semiotics&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Semiotics is concerned with everything that can be taken as a sign. A sign is everything which can be taken as significantly substituting for something else…thus semiotics is in principle the discipline studying everything which can be used in order to lie. If something cannot be used to tell a lie, conversely it cannot be used to tell the truth: it cannot in fact be used “to tell” at all. - Umberto Eco, Theory of Semiotics&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Slavoj Žižek has popularized the writings of Jacques Lacan, which are just Semiotics applied to Freudian analysis. I recommend the movie “Zizek”. It’s very good and not that difficult.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-806642"><em>Citizen Jane @ 73</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Raven @ 64</p>
<p>Once it works its way out there, an idea is poisonous. I recently saw a student saying in her prospectus that she was going to apply the ideas of a particular philosophical approach (I think it was structuralism) and another one (use of semiotics) yet she could not define either term–structuralism or semiotics–nor could she name more than one expert in each field.</p>
<p>Ai, yi, yi!!!</p>
<p>I felt like I was reading a neo-con handbook on feces flinging!</p>
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<p>Umberto Eco on Semiotics</p>
<blockquote><p>Semiotics is concerned with everything that can be taken as a sign. A sign is everything which can be taken as significantly substituting for something else…thus semiotics is in principle the discipline studying everything which can be used in order to lie. If something cannot be used to tell a lie, conversely it cannot be used to tell the truth: it cannot in fact be used “to tell” at all. &#8211; Umberto Eco, Theory of Semiotics</p>
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<p>Slavoj Žižek has popularized the writings of Jacques Lacan, which are just Semiotics applied to Freudian analysis. I recommend the movie “Zizek”. It’s very good and not that difficult.</p>
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		<title>By: raven</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/07/08/illusion/#comment-806661</link>
		<dc:creator>raven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jul 2007 15:54:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-806658&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Frank33 @ 77&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-806593&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Oklahoma kiddo @ 34&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;For those who advocate staying in Iraq: Enlist. And request duty in the Middle East.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Great point. Rich Lowry (1968), Tucker Carlson (1969), five sons of Mitt Romney are &lt;a href=&quot;http://www4.army.mil/OCPA/read.php?story_id_key=9197&quot;&gt;eligible to enlist.&lt;/a&gt; It is easy to support the war when you are profiting from it. All these young neo-cons should be challenged. If you are no older than 42. and support Iraq genocide, then DO YOUR DUTY AND ENLIST!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Check and see how Mitt avoided the Nam.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-806658"><em>Frank33 @ 77</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-806593"><em>Oklahoma kiddo @ 34</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>For those who advocate staying in Iraq: Enlist. And request duty in the Middle East.</p>
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<p>Great point. Rich Lowry (1968), Tucker Carlson (1969), five sons of Mitt Romney are <a href="http://www4.army.mil/OCPA/read.php?story_id_key=9197">eligible to enlist.</a> It is easy to support the war when you are profiting from it. All these young neo-cons should be challenged. If you are no older than 42. and support Iraq genocide, then DO YOUR DUTY AND ENLIST!</p>
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<p>Check and see how Mitt avoided the Nam.</p>
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		<title>By: Laurie</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/07/08/illusion/#comment-806660</link>
		<dc:creator>Laurie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jul 2007 15:53:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Post a Sting song with any political communications, and it makes it all seems no so bad.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Make the girls happy!!!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The Police were “spot on” last night….and Melissa Ethridge made me laugh with her bold comments (no more “obstruction of justice”) and then it made me cry. While in the pool in the backyard yesterday, I had “Live Earth” on the outdoor speakers so all of my immediate neighborhood would have to listen. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I pledged myself to do it.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Post a Sting song with any political communications, and it makes it all seems no so bad.</p>
<p>Make the girls happy!!!</p>
<p>The Police were “spot on” last night….and Melissa Ethridge made me laugh with her bold comments (no more “obstruction of justice”) and then it made me cry. While in the pool in the backyard yesterday, I had “Live Earth” on the outdoor speakers so all of my immediate neighborhood would have to listen. </p>
<p>I pledged myself to do it.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank33</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/07/08/illusion/#comment-806658</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank33</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jul 2007 15:53:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-806593&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Oklahoma kiddo @ 34&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;For those who advocate staying in Iraq: Enlist. And request duty in the Middle East.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Great point. Rich Lowry (1968), Tucker Carlson (1969), five sons of Mitt Romney are &lt;a href=&quot;http://www4.army.mil/OCPA/read.php?story_id_key=9197&quot;&gt;eligible to enlist.&lt;/a&gt; It is easy to support the war when you are profiting from it. All these young neo-cons should be challenged. If you are no older than 42. and support Iraq genocide, then DO YOUR DUTY AND ENLIST!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-806593"><em>Oklahoma kiddo @ 34</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>For those who advocate staying in Iraq: Enlist. And request duty in the Middle East.</p>
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<p>Great point. Rich Lowry (1968), Tucker Carlson (1969), five sons of Mitt Romney are <a href="http://www4.army.mil/OCPA/read.php?story_id_key=9197">eligible to enlist.</a> It is easy to support the war when you are profiting from it. All these young neo-cons should be challenged. If you are no older than 42. and support Iraq genocide, then DO YOUR DUTY AND ENLIST!</p>
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		<title>By: raven</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/07/08/illusion/#comment-806649</link>
		<dc:creator>raven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jul 2007 15:51:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-806642&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Citizen Jane @ 72&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Raven @ 64&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Once it works its way out there, an idea is poisonous. I recently saw a student saying in her prospectus that she was going to apply the ideas of a particular philosophical approach (I think it was structuralism) and another one (use of semiotics) yet she could not define either term–structuralism or semiotics–nor could she name more than one expert in each field.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Ai, yi, yi!!!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I felt like I was reading a neo-con handbook on feces flinging!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Ugh, I’m glad I’ve been out of that for 10 years.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-806642"><em>Citizen Jane @ 72</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Raven @ 64</p>
<p>Once it works its way out there, an idea is poisonous. I recently saw a student saying in her prospectus that she was going to apply the ideas of a particular philosophical approach (I think it was structuralism) and another one (use of semiotics) yet she could not define either term–structuralism or semiotics–nor could she name more than one expert in each field.</p>
<p>Ai, yi, yi!!!</p>
<p>I felt like I was reading a neo-con handbook on feces flinging!</p>
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<p>Ugh, I’m glad I’ve been out of that for 10 years.</p>
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		<title>By: Educated Plaintiff</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/07/08/illusion/#comment-806646</link>
		<dc:creator>Educated Plaintiff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jul 2007 15:49:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-806607&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;raven @ 48&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;I do think the GOP monitors sites like this. And who knows perhaps “The Young Republicans” pick up a little chump change as monitors. ;0)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Gotcha&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;raven - see my “note of thanks” to ed gillespie in the morning heads thread.  ;)&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-806607"><em>raven @ 48</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>I do think the GOP monitors sites like this. And who knows perhaps “The Young Republicans” pick up a little chump change as monitors. ;0)</p>
<p>Gotcha</p>
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<p>raven &#8211; see my “note of thanks” to ed gillespie in the morning heads thread.  ;)</p>
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