While the media in 2000 was covering sighs and olive suits, Al Gore was thinking about how to preserve human life on the planet. He talks more about what you can do in the video above.
No new word tonight on the urgent matter of John Edwards’ next haircut.
In other news, I finally get my due: Machu Picchu made it as one of the new Seven Wonders of the World.
A Peruvian in national costume held up Macchu Picchu’s award to the sky and bowed to the crowd with his hands clasped, eliciting one of the biggest cheers from the audience of 50,000 people at a soccer stadium in Portugal’s capital, Lisbon.
The New York Times editorial page begins tomorrow, succinctly, thus:
It is time for the United States to leave Iraq, without any more delay than the Pentagon needs to organize an orderly exit.
And in the ComPost, Bouffont Byron has a tantrum with Bush over his tepid Libby commutation, immigration and other disillusionments.
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Pach!
zed?
Make the world a better place!
not zed.
Gosh y’all are up late.
;-]
Pach, we hang on your every word :-)
un zed
Pach more!
These are the signs I put up yesterday.
http://freewayblogger.blogspot…..signs.html
This concert is sizzling.
Eh. . . been trying to keep my posts focused and to the point.
Standing in Machu Picchu at sun rise is an amazing experience. The Incan stone work has to be seen to believed.
Wow, that NYTimes piece hits the nail on the head!
Spot on.
These are the signs I put up today.
http://freewayblogger.blogspot…..mento.html
Hola, amigos.
Excellent posts, Pach.
Steve @ 12
You shoulda seen it when we had the dancing girls.
It’s good to be the
kingYnca.Another winner, Pach.
That’s strong stuff from the NYT. Maybe they will put a leash on some of their stenographers when the Leader’s minions start leaking “news” about Iran.
scarlet p. @ 9
Scarlet, someone hung an “impeach” sign in my area (Northern VA, outside DC) but I haven’t been able to get a picture of it — rest assured that it’s there, though :-)
Pachacutec, what ever happened to the damage done to the site after the commercial was filmed there, and the proposed skyway to the site?
argosfalcon @ 21
You know, I didn’t follow it.
For me, it was all downhill after the fucking Spanish.
As I can guess, sorry.
Sunday’s New York Times offers an explosive story of an aborted 2005 U.S. raid into Pakistan, a special forces operation designed to “snatch and grab” Ayman Al Zawahiri and other senior Al Qaeda leaders. The story, following July 2006 revelations that the CIA had previously disbanded its Bin Laden unit, gives lie to one of the central tenets of the so-called Bush Doctrine: no safe havens for terrorists.
For the details, see:
“The Pakistan Raid: So Much for ‘No Safe Havens.’”
Pachacutec @ 5
thanks for this wonderful Al Gore interview, and congratulations on Machu Picchu.
Byron’s hissyfit over the Libby payoff is really quite the dogwhistle: run, base, run!
I just caught uo width the comments on the last thread and saw this: LoudonLib-sipping a Guiness and thinking of England. Now, LL lass you’ll not be sipping a “Liffey Poison” and thinking of England unless you’re plotting some sort IRA action. *g*
scarlet p. @ 14
nice smackdown of the troll in your comments, scarlet!
Congratulations that Machu Picchu got it’s due, one of the Wonders of the World!
scarlet p. @ 14
Excellent work!
Big Mitch @ 15
Layla tov chaver sheli.
Felix Moronia @ 25
lol Felix, nothing of the sort ;-) Just missing the place, is all!
Well, gang, time to get my tail to my crypt.
Another sunrise on the morrow.
Don’t forget to hold on to hope. Fight fight fight and we may wake up and see a bright future again.
Does downstairs know?
Tex, I let ‘em know
Off to save some more energy by turning off the light. Night all.
Night Pach. Sleep well.
Pachacutec @ 31
Sleep well my friend.
g’nite Pach.. sleep well
yes, tex, downstairs was told :)
TexB @ 30
Tov me’od.
Buenas noches Pach, y dulce suenos
g’night spurious
scarlet p. @ 14
Scarlet… Great stuff. Glad to see someone doing some more of it here in Sac. I’ll make sure to link to your work.
spurious @ 34
Good night. sleep well.
TexB @ 29
Shalom chaverim, shalom chaverim, shalom, shalom.
greenwarrior @ 43
L-hitraot, l-hitraot, shalom, shalom.
Pardon me. I just fell in love with Joss Stone.
Just read the list..Christ the Redeemer in Brazil..give me a break..it’s a rigged vote by the vast right wing christian conspiracy. Either Angkor Wat or the Hagia Sophia should have been on the final list.
good night
good night
no hablo Hebrew! ;-)
TexB @ 44
That just made me start giggling.
Over and out. Love you guys!
Here’s what I wrote to my congressman today (took TRex’s advice to heart):
Hon. Richard “Doc” Hastings
1214 Longworth House Office Building
Washington, DC 20515
Re: These voters in Washington 4th say ENOUGH!
Dear Representative Hastings:
President Bush’s commutation of the sentence of Scooter Libby is the current example of misconduct, dishonesty and incompetence that have been ongoing throughout the Bush administration. Please be advised that the following are only SOME of the concerns we have:
• THE CONSTITUTION: The Legislative branch of government must begin immediately to rectify the damage done by the Neocons. The Constitution must be restored so that habeas corpus and the checks and balances between the three branches are again in effect. Signing statements should be made illegal.
• WARMONGERING: Our nation cannot afford to squander more resources and human lives in Iraq to further President Bush’s insane agenda of wiping out “evil” and promoting democracy through aggression. This includes Iran as well. If we left that region to its own resources, they would take care of each other for us. No more funding. The Bush administration has overworked and under-equipped our troops and failed to render appropriate support to them when they return. This must end. Support the troops by bringing them home. There must be no funding of missile bases in Poland and the Czech Republic. You and your colleagues must use the power of the purse.
• CONSERVATIVE PRINCIPLES: As an important member of the House Ethics Committee, you are in a position to see that the country returns to American values (which should be nonpartisan): honesty, thrift, upholding the Constitution, limiting government intrusion into private and personal matters, putting the good of the country ahead of any political party, and putting country ahead of local concerns.
• IMPEACHMENT: Impeachment of Vice President Cheney followed by impeachment of President Bush would be a very good start.
Respectfully,
ouiski
g’night Loo Hoo
Elliott, are you outta here too?
Nate @ 42
I saw your signs. Had to drive a friend to the Sac airport a few hours ago…. Bravo!
greenwarrior @ 50
I can play this game in many languages. Especially with children’s songs.
Summer camp memories.
Great bedtime reading for Gore fans, from Huffington columnist Brent Budowsky:
“Draft Al Gore, True Heir to FDR and JFK.”
LoudounLib @ 49
y porque no?
Big Mitch @ 55
What camps? I was Ramah Poconos.
Pachacutec @ 17
Hey Pach, when you were Ynca, did you have to deal with an opposition party? I mean, before the Spanish came?
Inquiring minds want to know.
Bob in HI
Steve @ 47
So much heritage so little room, too much to save from being loved to destruction or gee that would make a great place for a mall or high rise.
LoudounLib @ 50
Yeah, me neither. I guess they just want to me special.
LoudounLib @ 53
not yet!
greenwarrior @ 58
porque soy una WASP ;-)
Pach and Teddy masters of the weekend nights.
And Big Al
lol, ok Elliott — I’m here for about 15 more minutes ;-)
Eureka Springs @ 66
and they all rawk…
LoudounLib @ 62
ROTFL!
LoudounLib @ 62
Translation of song:
Good bye friends, Good bye friends, Good bye, Good bye.
Until the next time, Until the next time, Good bye, Good bye.
Now we can all sing along next time, ok???
I think I will also conserve some energy (including my own) and head to bed. Take car3e of yourselves and enjoy the snark.
Cenne mahe, Este Ue Efv Totkv.
What are the chances that Al will run?
good night DrD, keep cool!
LoudounLib @ 66
we’ve heard that before ;;))
DrDick @ 69
Sleep well.
(Please translate?)
DrDick @ 69
What was that?
TexB @ 59
Cejwin.
Big Mitch: you might enjoy the Joss Stone/Jonny Lang duet “When Love Comes to Town” produced by Herbie Hancock. Don’t know if it’s on utube.
lol TexB, I’ll try to remember that ;-)
DrDick @ 70
g’nite
Elliott @ 71
Saw him on teevee today, appears to have lost some weight. He’s not said he will run but also has not ruled it out.
Run Al run!
TexB @ 58
For me, it was living in Israel for many years.
TexB @ 73
Be well, People of Fire Dog Lake (it is Muskogee, the language of the Creek and Seminole peoples).
Shouldn’t any piece written by Bryon York about Libby contain a disclosure that he’s a media adviser to the Libby Defense Fund? How can he get away with writing that crap?
and
(waving g’nite to all the firepups headed off to recharge their batteries)
greenwarrior @ 80
I can not WAIT to meet you tomorrow! And Gnome de Plume and Alicia and LS.
FIRST EVER Firedoglake Central Texas Firepup Picnic is tomorrow at 1 pm!
If we are doing language quiz..here is one for GWB…Zol dir lign in keyver der eyver, in di kishkes a lokh mit a sheyver!!!
Steve @ 47
Which came first the Redemer version or the Ozarks version? lmao
good stuff there, yellowdog jim
TexB @ 86
Rawk Out!
Waving back to Suzanne and all the other night owls as I greenily prepare to turn off computer at power strip and trundle to bed.
TheOtherWA @ 82
TOW, excellent point. Perhaps their ombudsman should be made aware of that failure to disclose. Doesn’t the NYT have a real one who actually (gasp) ombuds?
Brazil, even I know that, no wait I could be wrong.
Steve @ 86
What is “zol dir lign”? I got the rest.
TexB @ 86
TexB, please be sure to give us a full report! I bet you all will have a blast :-)
Good Night Laura Doty…Sleep the sleep of the blessed.
LoudounLib @ 95
I am bringing a camera! Report plus pix on facebook.
LoudounLib @ 95
don’t forget your camera either Tex.
demi @ 96
I second that
TexB @ 98
I’ll be watching that space ;-)
TexB @ 98
this should be good
TexB, did I miss tonights snacks?
<a href=”#comment-806336″ rel=”nofollow”><em>TexB @ 94</em></a>
<blockquote><a href=”#comment-806329″ rel=”nofollow”><em>Steve @ 86</em></a>
<blockquote>If we are doing language quiz..here is one for GWB…Zol dir lign in keyver der eyver, in di kishkes a lokh mit a sheyver!!!</blockquote>
What is “zol dir lign”? I got the rest.</blockquote>May your pen*s lie in a grave, [may] a hole and a hernia [lie] in your guts.
(MOD NOTE: *Edited to allow through spam filters)
I don’t know of too many DC area firepups, but hopefully someday we can get together with oddmommy, AlexCynic, Redshift and a few others
TexB
Somehow my comment went away…
But, have a great picnic.
thank you and thank you. FDL and pups are high among the blessings I have fortune to share.
<a href=”#comment-806336″ rel=”nofollow”><em>TexB @ 93</em></a>
<blockquote><a href=”#comment-806329″ rel=”nofollow”><em>Steve @ 86</em></a>
<blockquote>If we are doing language quiz..here is one for GWB…Zol dir lign in keyver der eyver, in di kishkes a lokh mit a sheyver!!!</blockquote>
What is “zol dir lign”? I got the rest.</blockquote>
May your pen*s lie in a grave, may a hole and a hernia lie in your guts. (I am sure the NSA could have figured it out)
(MOD NOTE: *Edited to allow through spam filter)
big mitch.. don’t keep reposting a comment that is caught in moderation. i am freeing the first one after i modify the words used that caused it to be caught in the spam filters.
patience is a virtue
Laura Doty, thank *you*, the feeling is mutual
TexB @ 94
May your pe*nis lie in a grave, [may] a hole and a hernia [lie] in your guts.
I’m listening to the Sirius replay of Live Earth US and Melissa Etheridge is playing. Was her wonderful rant at the beginning of her set?
Nevermind, I think it’s on right now. Sirius ch 1 if you have it.
Sorry. I finally figured it out on my own.
mitch, and everyone else, refresh your page to see mitch’s comment… and mitch, i dumped the duplicate comments.
Suzanne @ 92
the last time i had a conversation with the nyt ombudsmen it was about their apology for rote repeating wmd, wmd, wmd before the iraq war in 2003. i pointed out that in spite of the apology they were still rote repeating admin talking points. we went back and forth quite a bit without that person acknowledging the problem with that.
i hope there’s a different outcome if you pursue it.
Felix Moronia @ 102
I had such a big dinner i forgot completely about snack.
Here ya go … lemon cookies.
Here’s a little of that Old Time Music to keep yer fires lit.
We’ve driven the ‘conservative’ slime into the sea now let’s drown their ‘philosophy’ in the surf!
TexB @ 94
All I understood was “kishkes”.
Texas firepups, have a great time!
Elliott @ 102
Just remember that the camera adds 30 pounds.
TheOtherWA @ 82
It’s the WaPo. Only members and advisers to the Libby Defense Fund are allowed to grace their neocon paper!
(head hanging in shame for confusing WaPo and the NYT publishing the York piece of dung)
TexB @ 120
natch, but calculations for negating the effect are built into the viewer!
it sounds like a blast!
TexB @ 120
What kind of camera are you carrying?
Those look yummy TexB. Thank you!
oy vey, y ay caramba (in the interest of diversity) it’s late…it’s going to be 100,000 degrees here in DC on Sunday and I want to be up and out of the house early…good night all!
Felix Moronia @ 125
You are more than welcome.
‘nite LL
LoudounLib @ 126
do you really mean it?
those look too good to eat, tex. thank you :)
LoudounLib @ 88
Big Al has me dreaming of days of my youth.
We grew up on this stuff.
Well, some grew up more than others.
I don’t know if I grew up.
grew up, schmew up.
We were marinaded in it.
Big Al got me to checking the utube for the songs and I wanted to share the
dream.
appreciate your appreciation.
yes Elliott ;-)
*poof*
sweet dreams!
LoudounLib @ 132
good night!
I’m outta here meself. ‘Nite everyone. TexB, I’m going to take my cookie to bed, along with a book.
Suzanne-
Put that chin up. You da best!
*
And, hey Big Mitch, is there a little mitch?
Oh! and have a great picnic tomorrow TexB.
Teddy, Is the York piece something we need to flood with corrections etc. or nay?
Elliott @ 89
ain’t sure i can make it, but i live in austin.
email: yellowdogjim (at) yahoo (dot) you know the rest.
ES, the York piece is in the wapoo and lil debbie won’t do squat. There is the comments that the wapoo lets ya do – just be sure to keep them civil :)
Suzanne @ 121
It’s hard to keep the media offenses straight. No problema, Suzanne.
yes ma’am
TexB @ 86
Me too! And you’ve got mail.
Oh, oh! Still watchin’ the concert, and they’re doing flash backs to Highlights. I missed Cat Stevens – Yousef Islam. Oh, man. He was singing Peace Train. End of last year he put out a new album. It’s really good. I do one of his songs at church.
demi @ 135
There’s Young Ike, who sometimes makes brillian guest editorial contributions to my blog. (As you would expect from a kid who graduated from Harvard with honors.) And two beautiful daughters.
Sorry for the bragging Can’t help myself.
Mitch, is Young Ike a relative? If that is too personal, please feel free to ignore the question.
demi @ 143
funny, his version of that hymn Morning Has Broken just shuffled up on my player.
I was glad to hear him but he seemed unsure of his voice.
That Peace Train better be coming.
Ha, it’s not even 11pm on the west coast and there are 5 pages of comments on the York column. Skimmed thru, and they’re all negative.
Read ‘em and weep, Lil’ Debbie!
It is — if I may use the expression — trippy to watch the next generation grooving to Pink Floyd.
All in all, it’s just another brick in the wall.
demi @ 143
Good to hear recommendation of his new one. He was great today did a couple of songs and now my brain can’t remember the other one, so much music!
Suzanne @ 145
Young Ike is my son. Here’s an example of his writing, that you might enjoy.
TheOtherWA @ 144
Lil Debbie will grab her pearls and the smelling salts, declaring all commentors to be uncivil, unbathed, and profane.
Big Mitch @ 147
Agreed!
yellowdog jim @ 138
you’ve got mail yellowdogjim
Big Mitch @ 150
And a proud father you deserve to be. very nice!
The one I’ve sung at church is:
Maybe there’s a world that I’m still to find.
…
I believe in an open world,
Borderless and wide,
Where the people move from place to place,
And nobody’s taking sides…
It’s a wonderful album…
Pick it up, if ya wanna.
Suzanne @150
Yes, and we’ll keep laughing at her, too.
Yellow dog jim. You have mail. Come picnic with us.
Suzanne @ 151
dfh’s
Young Ike does Big Mitch proud, Mitch. Very nice guest post of that letter.
Someone listed York’s ties to the Libby Defense Fund on page 5 of the comments.
I wonder if they got their info from here….
demi @ 155
Sounds wonderful, forgive me for assuming it was Morning Has Broken. I will check into his latest.
Can I come in and play, or do I have to brush up on my Yiddish and Muskogee first.
Para Pach – Machu Picchu, uno de las Siete Maravillas del Mundo! Que Bueno.
hey ET they let me play and I speak nor read either
Ed*ard Teller @ 162
bienvenido!
Ed*ard Teller @ 162
Also been playing with Hebrew, but I have not yet seen any French since I arrived this evening. Tu parles français?
Elliott @ 161
IIRC,
I believe in a place and time,
Where nobody get’s annoyed.
But, I must admit, I’m not there yet.
But, something’s keeping me goin’.
Maybe there’s a world that I’m still to find.
Maybe there’s a world that I’m still to find.
Open up oh world, and let me in.
Then there’ll be a new life to begin.
(and more…:)
Rudy, get the Lead out!
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19655897/
AK how are ya? how’s your dad?
Ed*ard Teller @ 162
Don’t leave out the Hebrew. That’s what started it!
Lesson 1: Shalom – Hello, Good-bye, Peace.
It comes from the root that means wholeness or fullness.
Lesson 2: Blee yadaiyim – Take your hands off me.
Very important to know as a young American woman. If you didn’t say it in Hebrew, they didn’t think you meant it.
Ms. ET and I drove into Anchortown to watch Sicko and eat Thai food. Probably Moore’s best movie. It didn’t hit me as viscerally as did Fahrenheit 911, but he’s maturing. He exaggerated the damage and casualties to the Brits during WWII – without actually lying about it. And he turned back into the 8th grader prankster he can’t resist being as they were headed out of Miami toward Cuba. Otherwise, a fascinating film.
Alfred Kelgarries @ 167
Alfred! How’s my favorite spook?
Alfred, hunny bunny!
Glad to have you here.
Hope all is well…dad and your dear bod.
TexB @ 165
Pourquoi non?
Here’s my favorite piece of writing from Young Ike. It was written in the context of Bill O’Reilley’s annual allegation that people are waging a “war on Christmas.”
And here’s another, shorter one.
And with that, I will stop blog-whoring and boasting.
greenwarrior @ 173
OK. we HAVE to figure out a way to carpool tomorrow.
Alfred Kelgarries @ 167
Alfred, you’re back. Yay. How’s your Dad? I’ve been praying for him.
TexB @ 69
Oy vey! I was! I was! {G}
Bob in HI
greenwarrior @ 169
And BLEE REGLAYIM — take your feet off of me.
Less useful on the street. In bed however, .. ?
Suzanne @ 167
he is home as of tonight, and apparently going to be all right. his left middle toe had a drug-resistant strain of staph aureus infection but vancomycin (and the prayers/positive thoughts/positive energy) of FDL pulled him through. What I didn’t know, and only after three days did we figure out, was that this type of infection is severely painful, and he wasn’t getting enough pain med. this led to him regressing in his Alzheimers and becoming physically resistive. I was up almost continually for four days dealing with this until a nurse spotted the correlation, and called his doctor who said the medical equivalent of “Doh!” and upped the morphine to 5 mg or mm or whatever, and after that all was well.
work is ok, no more company losses.
I haven’t been able to blog for obvious reasons. In fact, the only reason I’m here tonight is that TexB shamed me into it, and rightly so. DO NOT MEDDLE with TexB her skill set extends far beyond languages.
So “other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?”
Oh, and i’m sitting on two TERRIBLE stories about cheney I don’t dare pass on. really. I and we would get in trouble. but if either are true, then this admin is in worse trouble than we ever thought….
TexB @ 165
Tu??
Alfred Kelgarries @ 167
Wow! this is amazing.
As all NYers know, Rudy took a lot of credit for stuff he doesn’t deserve, and 911 is only one, though the most conspicuous example. My favorite story on this is that the magazine New York had adverts on the side of the busses that said, “The only good thing in NY that Rudy hasn’t taken credit for: New York Magazine.”
Rudy made them take the advertising off. The column, written for the Long Island paper, Newsday, won a pulitzer prize. It would have one two if they had a snark category.
Bush Admin Passed On Chance To Raid Meeting Of Al Qaida Leaders
WASHINGTON, July 7 — A secret military operation in early 2005 to capture senior members of Al Qaeda in Pakistan’s tribal areas was aborted at the last minute after top Bush administration officials decided it was too risky and could jeopardize relations with Pakistan, according to intelligence and military officials.
The target was a meeting of Qaeda leaders that intelligence officials thought included Ayman al-Zawahri, Osama bin Laden’s top deputy and the man believed to run the terrorist group’s operations.
But the mission was called off after Donald H. Rumsfeld, then the defense secretary, rejected an 11th-hour appeal by Porter J. Goss, then the director of the Central Intelligence Agency, officials said. Members of a Navy Seals unit in parachute gear had already boarded C-130 cargo planes in Afghanistan when the mission was canceled, said a former senior intelligence official involved in the planning.
Mr. Rumsfeld decided that the operation, which had ballooned from a small number of military personnel and C.I.A. operatives to several hundred, was cumbersome and put too many American lives at risk, the current and former officials said. He was also concerned that it could cause a rift with Pakistan, an often reluctant ally that has barred the American military from operating in its tribal areas, the officials said.
The decision to halt the planned “snatch and grab” operation frustrated some top intelligence officials and members of the military’s secret Special Operations units, who say the United States missed a significant opportunity to try to capture senior members of Al Qaeda.
Their frustration has only grown over the past two years, they said, as Al Qaeda has improved its abilities to plan global attacks and build new training compounds in Pakistan’s tribal areas, which have become virtual havens for the terrorist network.
In recent months, the White House has become increasingly irritated with Pakistan’s president, Gen. Pervez Musharraf, for his inaction on the growing threat of the Taliban and Al Qaeda.
more
Alfred!
Don’t do this to us!
You wicked man, you.
TexB @ 170
still trying to get his foot out of his mouth from our IM conversation. sorry about all the gaffe’s, I was not myself. I think.
Will these stories be public soon?
TexB @ 178
Laughing so hard I’m not finding the keys to type.
Steve @ 180
Un peu.
greenwarrior @ 169
Lesson 1 is very useful for people like me. Don’t know whether I am coming or going.
Al,
They’re in trouble, or We’re in trouble?
Big difference.
Alfred Kelgarries @ 184
Don’t mention it.
TexB @ 182
thanks for that, I think
Elliott @ 191
For what? WHich language? Or the cookies? The news?
Gotta go nite nite.
Suzanne, how’s Oregon?
Thought I would drop in on late night and see the gang, anyone left?
I trust you’ll tell us when you can, right? Right? :)
I’m so glad to hear your father is doing better. Smart nurses and doctors who can figure out these seemingly minor (but NOT minor) problems are a Godsend. I’ve cared for elderly parents, so I know what it’s like even if the specific situations are different. Blessings and peace to you and your family, Alfred.
I’ll break a story here that I have kept under my hat for a very long while.
Someone I consider highly reliable and who had a basis for this information told me that W visited the NSA and personally assured the people there that there would be no personal repercussions against them for the FISA thing.
I’ve just been thinking about it since the Libby commutation.
Alfred,
Get some rest. It looks like things are going better. The lead thing is important. When I worked as a corrections administrator, I sought to have some studies done on how many convicted criminals had FAE, a less serious form of FAS, but a condition which often leads to control and judgement issues at any stages of life.
Mitch,
I like Ike! I especially liked this part of his War on Christmas essay:
Here is where the neoconservatives might want to put down their dreidels and think about how well Western influence (for which read democracy and Coca-Cola) will fare among third-world Muslims weary of seeing their coreligionists getting shelled. You see, we’ve reached the point at which some parallels might be drawn. All this pseudo-Yuletide Chanukah hoopla (say that five times fast) has obscured some of the real story of Chanukah. Antiochus IV is usually cast as a Disney villain, when in fact he was just a spectacularly irresponsible leader. He tried to build a global empire by fighting unwinnable wars. Rather than encouraging diversity as his predecessors did, he tried to undermine it, by imposing a uniform set of cultural values through appointed officials. Finally, he proved a tyrant, by taking away freedoms that were theretofore considered inalienable. After a while, it bit him in the ass.
Kid’s got a way with learning from history. What was his major at Harvard?
TexB @ 192
the news
demi @ 190
I don’t know – am not there yet.
AnnieW @ 185
ghod i hope not. i hope they’re not even TRUE but the sources I got them from are good ones and usually accurate. I only pass this on to explain that I am, quite frankly, not myself tonight. I jammed my foot in my mouth about ten times just trying to im with TexB while folding laundry, and realized that my getting this info was why. I’m sure it’s my debilitated condition, but still. So if I write or suggest anything tonight offensive or questionable to anyone, please to ask forgiveness in advance. I didn’t mean it, I promise.
But in the interests of not being a tease I think I’m safe in pointing out two topics which are already well known:
1) Dick Cheney’s plane diverted suddenly recently for no disclosed reason. The diversion was publicly reported (I don’t mean the Japan electronics problem I mean more recently.)
2) An article appeared recently on the main bloglines that George W Bush was gay in college and got put through anti-gay via his Jesus conversion.
3) Lynne Cheney writes very passionately about lesbians, and has a lesbian daughter. Dick Cheney got draft deferments that were, well, odd even for vietnam. He certainly, as a person, has no issues at all with teh gay.
4) work it out yourselves from there.
FiniFiniTOOBZ! @ 194
hey hi!
Elliott @ 201
Well I am long gone. But still here.
Suzanne @ 199
forgive me for asking but is that where you are moving to?
hey fini
elliott, yes, not sure where yet – somewhere between newport and nehalem bay along the coast – but not directly on it. i’ll know it when i find it :)
TexB @ 202
Shit I was long gone years ago and far away ;)
Hey Ellie! I just watched that video again for like the half a millionth time this week.
TheOtherWA @ 196
I’ve given the only hints I can in some comments here. and yes, I had this lesion looked at by a wound care specialist and two podiatrists. They all looked at it and said “Doh?”. not worth the powder to blow em to perdition, as they used to say.
and thanks to all of fdl for the kind thoughts and support. i’ll try to get to photos up from dad’s webcam the next week on facebook. in the interest of not being sued for breaking countless monitors, I will NOT be putting up photos of moi.
Ed*ard Teller @ 197
I join in ET’s best wishes to Alfred, of course.
Isaac was a government major. I think his enthusiasm for it waned, and he wished he had been a lit major. Anyway, he worked it out by writing his senior thesis on the Politics of Herman Melville. He won the prize for best Sr. Thesis, too. Really, once I get started on the bragging thing, I am a fuc&ing run-away train.
Suzanne @ 204
You keep poking me on Facebook! What the hell is that? I got dents in my shoulder! [rubs his shoulder]
suzanne, my last post got modded. w*bc*m is probably the offending word. damm sp*mm*rs!
Ewwwwww! Just, ewwwwwwww!
2) An article appeared recently on the main bloglines that George W Bush was gay in college and got put through anti-gay via his Jesus conversion. – thereby proving that such “conversions” work. At least that’s what Jeff Gannon told me last time I saw him after he spent a long night in the Lincoln Bedroom…
FiniFiniTOOBZ! @ 208
LOL! Yeah, she pokes me all the time too.
Suzanne @ 205
The Oregon coast is exquisite. I used to live in Eugene and spent a lot of time at the coast. One of the prettiest places you could take a hike is on Nature Conservancy land at Cascade Head. If you go with 2 cars you could hike the whole trail or you could hitchhike back one way.
Suzanne @ 205
It’s beautiful up there, I envy you.
AK, i was trying to figure out what tripped the filters.. it is free now, refresh everyone and (poof) there it is
demi @ 189
WE are in trouble. if one of these stories is true and it had HAPPENED, it could provide the spark some neocons want to declare M law and go to town. Thankfully it didn’t happen, and I can’t check to see if the story is true. however, it may trickle in to msm so we’ll see…
Okay, now I’m going to be a tease and a blogwhore here,
Big Mitch and TexB,
The only Hebrew words I know are the beginning words of a prayer,
Baruch ator adonai…forgive the spelling, but those are the words in my memory from when I was at Greg Palast’s Bar Mitzfa (again, spelling?)…really. We did Jr. and Sr. High School together.
Fine (folding arms across bazooms) i’ll stop poking ya’ll.
Big Mitch @206
And why not? You should be proud and loud! He sounds like a great kid. I mean, young man. :)
TheOtherWA @ 210
My thoughts exactly, however when combined with the following:
Ed*ard Teller @ 211
I think we begin to get the idea of what 4) was meant for. DC plus GB plus JG in the LB = teh OMG.
Bomb Levels Section of Iraqi Village, Killing 105
By RICHARD A. OPPEL Jr. and ALI ADEEB
The attack fed fears that insurgents who fled Baghdad and Diyala are turning to more vulnerable targets nearby.
Suzanne @ 216
tank oo.
BTW, canada dry club soda (chilled in the freezer just to below freezing) over ice with a squirt of concentrated lemon juice. non-alco heaven in hot weather! add a mint sprig for decoration in formal settings. It shall forever be known as “The Summer Spook”. :)
any links to these rumors?
Suzanne @ 218
Poke away my dear, I was just hasslin’ ya. :D
FiniFiniTOOBZ! @ 221
JG are not the correct initials. Try another set.
FiniFiniTOOBZ! @ 206
I really love it. I never would have listened to it otherwise, tho
I feel so guilty hanging out on your page and listening to your playlist, it’s like I snuck into your house or something.
What’s the deal with that player? I like it.
Suzanne @ 224
yes but they’re buried in my inbox. i’ll find and post em tomorrow if someone else doesn’t do it sooner.
Good night, Firepups. See you all tomorrow, fresh and ready for more battle with the neocon idjits.
Sleep well!
Okay, it’s late and I’m being obtuse.
How’s the who did what to whom (like I care) figure into M law?
TheOtherWA @ 228
night-night
Big Mitch @ 207
Writing like that, he’d win a prize in my class too. His take on reactions to Hellenization in the first century BCE has more spunk in it than anything I’ve ever read. I hope he takes some seminars on writing historical narrative. He could be big.
Go ahead and brag. And did I show you my daughter’s crew pictures from…..?
demi @ 230
that’s the second terrible story. the bad one for all of us is the diversion of cheney’s plane.
Elliott @ 226
Thats the Project Playlist player. You can get it at http://projectplaylist.org and they have links there for you to share your player on Facebook when you put one together. Its what we recently started using for the The Spin I’m In playlists. Unless we are using YouTube playlists like the last couple of weeks.
demi @ 230
separate story
demi @ 217
Translation: Blessed is the Lord…
Many prayers begin this way: Blessed is the Lord, our God, who …
.. creates bread from the earth.
.. brings forth the grapes. (Blessing on wine)
.. sanctifies us with commandments and commands us to …
… light the Chunukah candles.
etc. etc. etc.
Greg Palast was my newest hero after I tumbled onto him during a recent phase where I was obsessed with the election of 2004 being stolen. (I now believe it was. No doubt in my mind.)
I just read his book, Armed Madhouse and thought it was terrific.
But today I heard him on a new show on Air America. And he was mostly the great Greg Palast we know and love. But he did diss Clinton for pardoning Mark Rich, and called Mark Rich one of the worst criminals ever. Kind of undercut Greg’s credibility with me.
Alfred Kelgarries @ 232
Was it to somewhere South of here without extradition rights?
OK. I need to know. Is Palast single? Straight? My age?
ooooooo – Dr. Hillhouse has an Op-Ed in the WaPoo accusing the CIA of endangering national security by censoring a report on outsourcing in the intel community
She titled it Who Runs the CIA? Outsiders For Hire.
Big Mitch @ 236
Time to show my ignorance: who in h*d*s is Mark Rich, and why does anyone care?
Is it regarding Darth’s health, or lack of?
Ed*ard Teller @ 231
no, but you have my email now.
demi @ 237
no it was in the us, and covered in the msm briefly. it is WHY the plane had to divert that is the problem.
FiniFiniTOOBZ! @ 233
thanks, I’ll take it for a spin!
TexB,
He’s straight, trust me, and married and he’s my age…55. How old are you?
We were in band together. I used to sit on his lap in the back of the band bus.
And, he is Such A Doll!
Now, you, tell me what’s up with Cheney?
Suzanne @ 239
That woman needs to be very careful where she drinks her tea, if you take my meaning…click…click…click
I thought Cheney’s plane was diverted to Indonesia when he left Australia, are we talking about a second diversion?
Suzanne,
You’re near my favorite part of the Oregon Coast. We used to go down to Manzanita for the first full week of August and play roller hockey and surf all day long for nine days. Most of the kids are in college now, so it is a thing of the past.
AnnieW @ 241
no, unfortunately. his removal from office for a health reason would be GOOD news. But it wasn’t.
AK — Mark Rich was pardoned by Bill Clinton. He is the poster boy of the Repuglican talking point that “Clinton did it, too.”
demi @ 245
Just imagine who might hate him. Now imagine someof those people having a really bad day. And blaming Cheney.
Now, imagine that those same people are part of a flight crew.
Al Gore just came on my tv screen AW-fuc&ing-SOME!!!
FiniFiniTOOBZ! @ 247
yes. it popped up very briefly and sunk again before most noticed. I’d post the link but I’m a bit too tired. i’ll try to find it and post it tomorrow. This diversion was on us territory.
Suzanne @ 238
whoa!
Alfred Kelgarries @ 243
oh yeah, i understand, ak. i’ve got my fingers and toes crossed that bloggers will pick up that story and run with it, forcing the media to also. she found that info in an unsecured powerpoint presentation, the LA Times ran with her find and then the cone of silence descended on the media and nothing more was said about it.
Scooter Libby was Marc Rich’s lawyer that got the pardon from Clinton. For more on Marc Rich.
Big Mitch @ 242
Mail? Yikes! I’ll switch from the “work” laptop to the “studio” “labtop,” if I can get my dog Strider off of MSMessenger with that poodle he’s been after…
Alfred,
So good to see you!
Hugs to everyone.
Tex, je parle un petit peu. Or at least I did years ago. J’ai oublie.
FiniFiniTOOBZ! @ 209
What does a Facebook poke mean? And what, pray tell, is the proper response?
greenwarrior @ 258
by all means, poke back
Big Mitch @ 250
Clinton pardoned his brother for being a redneck idiot (didn’t know that was a crime, actually). so why don’t they use that? why focus on rich?
a poke is just a friendly “hi” and the proper response
iswas to poke back.Margot @ 258
good to be back. i’ve missed everyone.
greenwarrior @ 153
thanks.
and now we are all corresponding like.
YIPPEE!
hope i get to go.
Okay, lots of people hate him, but do you mean people who hate him with more power than he has? And, they’re having a bad day? And, so, they wHAT? Dribble, dribble. Give me more. And I’m still trying to figure out the M Law thing.
I was going to go to bed. How can I now?
A. K. — The Clinton’s criticised Bush’s pardon. And Tony Snow said that it was an act of Chutzpah (Yiddish for brash nerve.) Which prompted me to write this.
yellowdog jim @ 264
us too.
what do you drive?
Alfred Kelgarries @ 263
welcome back, Alfred!
Over at Dr Hillhouse’s blog, she says she is gonna be in DC this week.
HOLY SHIT! Is THIS what you are referring to?
People were upset about Rich’s pardon because it could be argued that it was done for money (past donations, etc.), and that would be despicable (if true).
It would be have been like Bush pardoning Ken Lay.
The RW scream machine made it an issue because of the way it could be spun. They didn’t go after the brother (as much) because most folks would understand pardoning a brother’s missteps and wouldn’t be as “outraged”.
Alfred Kelgarries @ 260
Clinton made some bad pardon choices. Including puerto Rican terrorists, and Hillary’s brother got paid money, allegedly, to secure pardons, allegedly, it is alleged.
However, Rich is sort of the poster boy because he was on the FBI’s most wanted list. And the others are not being overlooked.
FiniFiniTOOBZ! @ 270
don’t think so
Suzanne @ 269
thanks for the link/source, Suzanne
and what Annie said, too.
TexB @ 238
Married IIRC
FiniFiniTOOBZ! @ 270
hard to believe that it would be true, but
if only…
TexB @ 273
Wtf? That’s Not what you and Al are talking about?
Come On!
Elliott, I found that blog when she showed up in the comments at late nite on trex’s first russian guy poisoned by radiation post. she was covering it also and i started reading her regularly. just finished her outsourced book which was a real eye opener. she shows up here often.
demi @ 265
demi, let me give you an oblique example.
every great man (like the Vice President) relies on hundreds if not thousands of little men. they provide dozens of services and are in most cases overlooked and even ignored. But each little man is a person in their own right (darn egalitarianism, crops up everywhere!) and may not behave as anticipated.
now to be a bit more specific. suppose a mechanic on Air Force two has just learned that her only daughter and her husband have both died in Iraq. She hates the war, does her duty out of respect for her service, not its putative masters. now consider how many ways that mechanics could “screw up” servicing that jet engine, in such a way that about an hour into the flight, it explodes in flame. you can fill in the rest.
And there are literally HUNDREDS of these people who have this capacity who work on Air Force Two every day, or work with it in various ways.
For obvious legal reasons, I cannot go any further. but i think you are bright enough to work this out for yourself. It is the flap, flap, flap of real chickens coming home to roost.
Yeah, the only “diversion” stuff I can find is the last Feb. diversion (or non-diversion according to Cheney) to Singapore.
Nothing more recent.
That hoax page that was linked to was scary. I’m glad I hadn’t fallen for something like that.
Alfred,
Watch your back, my good man! That’s the bad news. The good news is that we know the Navy stiffed him already and that he’s been busy getting top Naval officers reassigned who are willing to push his agenda. But this is the first sign I’ve seen that the USAF is pushing back in the face of the rapture crowd there. Can this be hidden? I doubt it. Generator failure, my ass!
Love those chickens comin’ home.
Do you think we’ll have some News tomorrow?
This doesn’t sound like a story they can bury.
Do I have to call Greg right now?
Good night dear friends. Please clean up the cookie crumbs before the morning group needs the room.
See y’all tomorrow. Some of you in person even. So excited!
FiniFiniTOOBZ! @ 270
lord no. that’s fantasy land. my info is very real life.
Ed*ard Teller @ 282
I am speechless. The best I can utter is Holy Shi7!!
Ah…spook.
I’ll ask no more.
I’m Googling my ass off and all I could find was that forum article which I now see is tin foil hattery. But if ground crew in the Air Force are fuckin with the Veep’s plane, then dayum!
Sorry. I fell for it. February. Then again, maybe this happens all the time.
AnnieW @ 281
what is even scarier to some is that the intel community regularly put out stuff like that about sovblock weapons and troop strength whenever the iron triangle boys needed to get an appropriation bill through congress.
Okay, I lied.
Is there a good reason for No Table?
Ed*ard Teller @ 282
DING
demi @ 291
Um, what?
FiniFiniTOOBZ! @ 288
It may have been disappeared. Google is compliant when teeth are shown. and in this case, i could see them being shown. it is scary stuff.
Suzanne @ 279
cool!
The slimy Matt Drudge happily informs us on the DrudgeReport that if the LiveAid concert had not occurred, then there would be more trees on the earth, due to the electricity costs.
Drudge’s inference is that Gore is a hypocrite to use electricity while wanting to save the planet. No doubt, Drudge wants to smear Gore, rather than considering what Gore has to say. Even if Gore were using an outhouse, Drudge would complain that he was hypocritical because his toilet paper destroyed trees.
Of course, Drudge neglects to mention that if DrudgeReport were not on computer servers, there would be less costs, etc.
Watch for Edwards haircut reports in another day or two, to be played-up alternately with electricity-costs-to-the-environment whine.
You know, I TOTALLY misunderstood the new Wonders of the World vote thing. I thought they were asking for the NEW Seven Wonders, meaning MODERN wonders (modern meaning almost anything post “Ancient World”). Machu Picchu, by my original reckoning, wouldn’t have fit…but then I was having major problems coming up with ANYTHING in the modern times (post Rennaissance) that I would classify as a “wonder”. Certainly NOTHING matches anything of the Ancient wonders: the pyramids, the Hanging Gardens, Colossus (sorta like Lady Liberty but given the time period, MUCH more impressive than Lady Liberty as an accomplishment).
Anyway, bravo to Machu Picchu and the other non-modern winners.
ARE there any really modern wonders? Anyone? I suppose in their own way “little” things like the Lunar Lander with human footprints around it, the Mars Rover…