Comments on: SiCKO: Ask The Right Question First http://firedoglake.com/2007/07/06/sicko-ask-the-right-question-first/ Firedoglake weblog Sun, 29 Nov 2009 03:17:34 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Maggie http://firedoglake.com/2007/07/06/sicko-ask-the-right-question-first/#comment-804133 Maggie Sat, 07 Jul 2007 01:28:44 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/07/06/sicko-ask-the-right-question-first/#comment-804133 <p>Michael Moore is our modern Thomas Paine. Moore, like Paine, strikes a nerve and begins the conversation. Both men got the ball rolling and leave it to others in a more knowledgeable position to get the details right</p> Michael Moore is our modern Thomas Paine. Moore, like Paine, strikes a nerve and begins the conversation. Both men got the ball rolling and leave it to others in a more knowledgeable position to get the details right

]]> By: jonerik http://firedoglake.com/2007/07/06/sicko-ask-the-right-question-first/#comment-803932 jonerik Fri, 06 Jul 2007 23:34:17 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/07/06/sicko-ask-the-right-question-first/#comment-803932 <p>I like to share my “anecdotal experience” of living in Sweden (home of ancestors) for year to give my take on single payer. I was admitted to Sweden on a 364 day visa which is the free stay you get without a work permit. It was a study abroad year and I was advised to investigate private health insurance for my wife and I during that time. When I started asking people in Sweden where my wife and I could buy “health insurance” or “medical insurance”, we were met by blank and puzzled looks. Even after we explained what we were talking about no body had a clue about what this product was or where we could purchase it. It was like trying to ask people to explain how Social Security really works. </p> <p>Months went by and we got no answers. Fortunately, we had no medical meeds for the time until the Spring after we arrived, my wife had a problem which was serious enough to require medical attention. We had no idea what to do wo we went to one of the many clinics in Stockholm and my wife was examined and treated by a doctor. We asked about payment and they didn’t have an idea about how it was done. We never heard about it again. </p> <p>That is how a single payer system works.</p> I like to share my “anecdotal experience” of living in Sweden (home of ancestors) for year to give my take on single payer. I was admitted to Sweden on a 364 day visa which is the free stay you get without a work permit. It was a study abroad year and I was advised to investigate private health insurance for my wife and I during that time. When I started asking people in Sweden where my wife and I could buy “health insurance” or “medical insurance”, we were met by blank and puzzled looks. Even after we explained what we were talking about no body had a clue about what this product was or where we could purchase it. It was like trying to ask people to explain how Social Security really works.

Months went by and we got no answers. Fortunately, we had no medical meeds for the time until the Spring after we arrived, my wife had a problem which was serious enough to require medical attention. We had no idea what to do wo we went to one of the many clinics in Stockholm and my wife was examined and treated by a doctor. We asked about payment and they didn’t have an idea about how it was done. We never heard about it again.

That is how a single payer system works.

]]> By: RBG http://firedoglake.com/2007/07/06/sicko-ask-the-right-question-first/#comment-803569 RBG Fri, 06 Jul 2007 20:42:21 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/07/06/sicko-ask-the-right-question-first/#comment-803569 <p><a href="#comment-803564"><em>tmvernon @ 181</em></a></p> <blockquote><p>Where did the “your comment is awaiting moderation” come from?</p></blockquote> <p>A word in your comment tripped the moderation filters and was released by a moderator.</p> <p>Refresh your browser and it should be visible in the thread.</p> tmvernon @ 181

Where did the “your comment is awaiting moderation” come from?

A word in your comment tripped the moderation filters and was released by a moderator.

Refresh your browser and it should be visible in the thread.

]]> By: tmvernon http://firedoglake.com/2007/07/06/sicko-ask-the-right-question-first/#comment-803564 tmvernon Fri, 06 Jul 2007 20:38:33 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/07/06/sicko-ask-the-right-question-first/#comment-803564 <p>Where did the “your comment is awaiting moderation” come from?</p> Where did the “your comment is awaiting moderation” come from?

]]> By: tmvernon http://firedoglake.com/2007/07/06/sicko-ask-the-right-question-first/#comment-803557 tmvernon Fri, 06 Jul 2007 20:34:20 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/07/06/sicko-ask-the-right-question-first/#comment-803557 <p>Besides the various lobbies with interests in maintaining the staus quo, there are the NEOCONS to deal with who equate universal health care as one more step toward socialism. And we know how they feel about Communists. Here’s a review of Sicko by “a ministry dedicated to redeeming the values of the mass media according to biblical principles.” Click on<br /> <a href="http://www.movieguide.org/index.php?s=reviews&id=7489">movieguide</a></p> Besides the various lobbies with interests in maintaining the staus quo, there are the NEOCONS to deal with who equate universal health care as one more step toward socialism. And we know how they feel about Communists. Here’s a review of Sicko by “a ministry dedicated to redeeming the values of the mass media according to biblical principles.” Click on
movieguide

]]> By: Shell http://firedoglake.com/2007/07/06/sicko-ask-the-right-question-first/#comment-803531 Shell Fri, 06 Jul 2007 20:20:39 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/07/06/sicko-ask-the-right-question-first/#comment-803531 <p>thelightningwill –</p> <p>What did we do when the automobile was invented? Feel sorry for horseshoers and forget the car?</p> <p>Jesus Christ, folks. The insurance folks have known about this for decades. They have had plenty of time to switch careers. Besides, “insurance” isn’t like it is an ultra-specialized field. No one felt sorry for all the tech workers who were laid off almost a decade ago. Why all the anguish for health insurance crooks? Because they are stupid enough that most Americans know one?</p> thelightningwill –

What did we do when the automobile was invented? Feel sorry for horseshoers and forget the car?

Jesus Christ, folks. The insurance folks have known about this for decades. They have had plenty of time to switch careers. Besides, “insurance” isn’t like it is an ultra-specialized field. No one felt sorry for all the tech workers who were laid off almost a decade ago. Why all the anguish for health insurance crooks? Because they are stupid enough that most Americans know one?

]]> By: Shell http://firedoglake.com/2007/07/06/sicko-ask-the-right-question-first/#comment-803521 Shell Fri, 06 Jul 2007 20:16:45 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/07/06/sicko-ask-the-right-question-first/#comment-803521 <p>tmvernon –</p> <p>You vote anyone — ANYONE — out who votes with the insurance companies. Yes, it must be your top priority.</p> <p>There will be many who vote correctly on health care AND the endless wars. And if there aren’t, vote all the bastids out.</p> <p>Everyone else? Gone. As in G-O-N-E. There is no time for pussy-footing around any longer.</p> tmvernon –

You vote anyone — ANYONE — out who votes with the insurance companies. Yes, it must be your top priority.

There will be many who vote correctly on health care AND the endless wars. And if there aren’t, vote all the bastids out.

Everyone else? Gone. As in G-O-N-E. There is no time for pussy-footing around any longer.

]]> By: thelightningwill http://firedoglake.com/2007/07/06/sicko-ask-the-right-question-first/#comment-803517 thelightningwill Fri, 06 Jul 2007 20:15:04 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/07/06/sicko-ask-the-right-question-first/#comment-803517 <p>In the US the medical sector of our economy is one of the largest employers. A large percentage would be considered paper pushers and not practioners. A very large problem with all of these discussions is how to transfer to a new system without amazingly bad economic upheaval. Its already bad enough with all the factories going to china.</p> In the US the medical sector of our economy is one of the largest employers. A large percentage would be considered paper pushers and not practioners. A very large problem with all of these discussions is how to transfer to a new system without amazingly bad economic upheaval. Its already bad enough with all the factories going to china.

]]> By: Shell http://firedoglake.com/2007/07/06/sicko-ask-the-right-question-first/#comment-803509 Shell Fri, 06 Jul 2007 20:13:42 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/07/06/sicko-ask-the-right-question-first/#comment-803509 <p>“INSURANCE” is not a part of HEALTH CARE, which is a PATIENT and MEDICAL PROFESSIONALS (doctors, nurses, etc.)</p> <p>Why in the F won’t stupid Americans see this very simple fact?</p> “INSURANCE” is not a part of HEALTH CARE, which is a PATIENT and MEDICAL PROFESSIONALS (doctors, nurses, etc.)

Why in the F won’t stupid Americans see this very simple fact?

]]> By: tmvernon http://firedoglake.com/2007/07/06/sicko-ask-the-right-question-first/#comment-803482 tmvernon Fri, 06 Jul 2007 20:06:23 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/07/06/sicko-ask-the-right-question-first/#comment-803482 <p>Yes, we all agree “universal health care” is a good thing and we all want it. But how do we get members of the House and Senate to support these bills when often they count on money from the extremely powerful lobbies of the AMA, insurance and pharmaceutical industries to remain in office?</p> Yes, we all agree “universal health care” is a good thing and we all want it. But how do we get members of the House and Senate to support these bills when often they count on money from the extremely powerful lobbies of the AMA, insurance and pharmaceutical industries to remain in office?

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