zed?

Christy!

Yes!

Christy!

I’ll be there.

Cool, I’ll watch via teevee at a moveon gettogether in my neighborhood.

Have fun Christy and all.

Just why everything that is taking place in the states, Ameicans going to music concerts, Diane Rehms discussing what is taking place in Iraq with her quest from a safe studio, FDLers blogging about Libby, Americans taking vacations and going to malls while close to a million Iraqi people have died, millions are displaced who knows how many are injured as a direct result of the pre-emptive and illegal invasion of their country by U.S. is oh so disturbing and “sicko”!

Kathleen at 6 — I won’t be there — we have a house full of company still, and I don’t live anywhere near DC. But I thought folks would like a heads up given how much trouble Al Gore and the Live Earth folks went through to get anything going in or near DC.

Kathleen @ 6

Have fun Christy and all.

Just why everything that is taking place in the states, Ameicans going to music concerts, Diane Rehms discussing what is taking place in Iraq with her quest from a safe studio, FDLers blogging about Libby, Americans taking vacations and going to malls while close to a million Iraqi people have died, millions are displaced who knows how many are injured as a direct result of the pre-emptive and illegal invasion of their country by U.S. is oh so disturbing and “sicko”!

Get over yourself.

raven @ 8

Kathleen @ 6

Have fun Christy and all.

Just why everything that is taking place in the states, Ameicans going to music concerts, Diane Rehms discussing what is taking place in Iraq with her quest from a safe studio, FDLers blogging about Libby, Americans taking vacations and going to malls while close to a million Iraqi people have died, millions are displaced who knows how many are injured as a direct result of the pre-emptive and illegal invasion of their country by U.S. is oh so disturbing and “sicko”!

Get over yourself.

Raven no need to attack I did not say anything about myself. You are so silly

Diane Rehm just announced that it is the Dali Lama’s birthday.
If Buddhist celebrate birthdays how old would the Dali Lama be if you were to count all his lifetimes?

20,ooo years old?

For those going to the concert, be sure to go in the museum as well. It’s an incredible experience.

Check out this US Carbon Footprint Map, an interactive United States Carbon Footprint Map, illustrating Greenest States. This site has all sorts of stats on individual State energy consumptions, demographics and State energy offices.

http://www.eredux.com/states/

PA_Lady @ 11

For those going to the concert, be sure to go in the museum as well. It’s an incredible experience.

YES!

Christy was the “Sealed vs. Sealed” proven to be an empty theory?

We are having a house party here in East Tennessee

Christy:

Can we go OT?

Get over yourself.

Raven no need to attack I did not say anything about myself. You are so silly

You, sweetheart, are lecturing “Christy and all” unless I misread your brilliant post.

xxxxoooo’ from silly Raven

Bernie Sanders on Hartman Wonder what he will say.

raven @ 17

Get over yourself.

Raven no need to attack I did not say anything about myself. You are so silly

You, sweetheart, are lecturing “Christy and all” unless I misread your brilliant post.

xxxxoooo’ from silly Raven

hmmmm….from his onscreen persona I can think of several adjectives to describe Mr. Raven, but silly isn’t one of them.
(complimentary adjectives, I mean)

oddmommy @ 19

raven @ 17

Get over yourself.

Raven no need to attack I did not say anything about myself. You are so silly

You, sweetheart, are lecturing “Christy and all” unless I misread your brilliant post.

xxxxoooo’ from silly Raven

hmmmm….from his onscreen persona I can think of several adjectives to describe Mr. Raven, but silly isn’t one of them.
(complimentary adjectives, I mean)

oh no!

oddmommy @ 19

raven @ 17

Get over yourself.

Raven no need to attack I did not say anything about myself. You are so silly

You, sweetheart, are lecturing “Christy and all” unless I misread your brilliant post.

xxxxoooo’ from silly Raven

hmmmm….from his onscreen persona I can think of several adjectives to describe Mr. Raven, but silly isn’t one of them.
(complimentary adjectives, I mean)

Raven generally pops up to attack!

kathleen — On Sealed v. Sealed, nothing has changed since I wrote this the last time someone asked:

No. We have no independent evidence of any link of the sealed case to Rove or anyone else in the Fitzgerald investigation. When Jeralyn was in DC covering things with the trial, she spent quite a bit of time trying to track down something — anything — on that. No luck. There was a hearing on a sealed v. sealed case while we were all there, and members of Fitz’s team were waiting out in the hall with everyone else while it was ongoing. So no, other than unsourced anonymous bits attempting to link them up — nothing concrete, nothing directly linking them, no documentation unsealed…in short, nada. Every time someone brings up Sealed v. Sealed from now on, I’m going to start demanding that they show their proof outright.

Unless and until some concrete information shows up about the case, all mentioning does is raise more unsubstantiated speculation about unproven innuendo that has never been linked up to any evidence whatsoever that I have ever seen from any independent, credible, substantiated and cross-checked sourcing.

Shorter me: no.

And, while I am thinking of it, I’ve had a very long, very exhausting week, and I still have a house full of company. So please, for my sake, let’s be kind to each other and enjoy the fact that it is Friday. What do you say?

Kathleen @ 10

Diane Rehm just announced that it is the Dali Lama’s birthday.
If Buddhist celebrate birthdays how old would the Dali Lama be if you were to count all his lifetimes?

20,ooo years old?

That puts to rest the theory that married men live longer …

Fred @ 12

Check out this US Carbon Footprint Map, an interactive United States Carbon Footprint Map, illustrating Greenest States. This site has all sorts of stats on individual State energy consumptions, demographics and State energy offices.

http://www.eredux.com/states/

I’m amazed to see NJ (#16) puts out 1/5 of TX(#1)

Fred @ 12

Check out this US Carbon Footprint Map, an interactive United States Carbon Footprint Map, illustrating Greenest States. This site has all sorts of stats on individual State energy consumptions, demographics and State energy offices.

http://www.eredux.com/states/

Fred thanks for the link

Christy Hardin Smith @ 23

And, while I am thinking of it, I’ve had a very long, very exhausting week, and I still have a house full of company. So please, for my sake, let’s be kind to each other and enjoy the fact that it is Friday. What do you say?

Darn, just when I was really going to attack! Your wish is my command.

Christy Hardin Smith @ 23

And, while I am thinking of it, I’ve had a very long, very exhausting week, and I still have a house full of company. So please, for my sake, let’s be kind to each other and enjoy the fact that it is Friday. What do you say?

Yes have fun with your company! Thanks for the response on the “sealed vs. sealed” issue. Someone mentioned some cards up Fitz’s sleeve…and I keep hoping!

unsubstantiated speculation about unproven innuendo

independent, credible, substantiated and cross-checked sourcing

.

This is some awesome phrasing, Ms. Christy!

Contrary to popular belief, lawyers actually DO have fun….

raven at 27 — Thank you. ;-) You are a peach of a man.

raven @ 8

Kathleen @ 6

Have fun Christy and all.

Just why everything that is taking place in the states, Ameicans going to music concerts, Diane Rehms discussing what is taking place in Iraq with her quest from a safe studio, FDLers blogging about Libby, Americans taking vacations and going to malls while close to a million Iraqi people have died, millions are displaced who knows how many are injured as a direct result of the pre-emptive and illegal invasion of their country by U.S. is oh so disturbing and “sicko”!

Get over yourself.

wouldn’t we be un-American if we weren’t blithely shopping and enjoying ourselves and enjoying our freedpms while the world spirals into chaos around us?

OT–

As we approach the 2008 election season (some say we’re in it already), interesting bit about US voters in The New Yorker:

Even apart from ignorance of the basic facts, most people simply do not think politically. They cannot see, for example, that the opinion that taxes should be lower is incompatible with the opinion that there should be more government programs. Their grasp of terms such as “affirmative action” and “welfare” is perilously uncertain: if you ask people whether they favor spending more on welfare, most say no; if you ask whether they favor spending more on assistance to the poor, most say yes. And, over time, individuals give different answers to the same questions about their political opinions. People simply do not spend much time learning about political issues or thinking through their own positions. They may have opinions—if asked whether they are in favor of capital punishment or free-trade agreements, most people will give an answer—but the opinions are not based on information or derived from a coherent political philosophy. They are largely attitudinal and ad hoc.

Christy Hardin Smith @ 30

raven at 27 — Thank you. ;-) You are a peach of a man.

garsh

Here are some numbers that won’t improve Ol Clusterfuck’s digestion- from ARG:

A new American Research Group national survey of 1,100 adults (conducted 7/3 through 7/5) finds:

31% of approve of “President George W. Bush commuting the 30-month prison sentence of I. Lewis “Scooter” Libby while leaving intact Mr. Libby’s conviction for perjury and obstruction of justice in the CIA leak case;” 64% disapprove.

11% favor a complete presidential pardon for Libby; 84% oppose.

45% favor “the US House of Representatives beginning impeachment proceedings against President George W. Bush;” 46% oppose.

54% favor “US House of Representatives beginning impeachment proceedings against Vice President Dick Cheney;” 40% oppose.

Christy Hardin Smith @ 30

raven at 27 — Thank you. ;-) You are a peach of a man.

that was one of my adjectives…. :)

Biodun @ 31

OT–

As we approach the 2008 election season (some say we’re in it already), interesting bit about US voters in The New Yorker:

Even apart from ignorance of the basic facts, most people simply do not think politically. They cannot see, for example, that the opinion that taxes should be lower is incompatible with the opinion that there should be more government programs. Their grasp of terms such as “affirmative action” and “welfare” is perilously uncertain: if you ask people whether they favor spending more on welfare, most say no; if you ask whether they favor spending more on assistance to the poor, most say yes. And, over time, individuals give different answers to the same questions about their political opinions. People simply do not spend much time learning about political issues or thinking through their own positions. They may have opinions—if asked whether they are in favor of capital punishment or free-trade agreements, most people will give an answer—but the opinions are not based on information or derived from a coherent political philosophy. They are largely attitudinal and ad hoc.

Thanks for providing this. That rings true for me. I find it difficult to get my arms around many of the issues. The media isn’t a ready source of factual and accurate information. And the implications of what legislation does and how it impacts is nigh unto impossible to figure out.

How can that be improved? Blogs are good, but require a lot of reading, sifting for validity and reliability, etc. Are there better sources of that kind of information available to the mass public, and not just the blogging public?

james @ 32

raven @ 8

Get over yourself.

wouldn’t we be un-American if we weren’t blithely shopping and enjoying ourselves and enjoying our freedpms while the world spirals into chaos around us?

reminds me of one of the articles in the post-Sept 11 Onion issue (which btw was a masterpiece overall): “Nation Longs To Care About Stupid Shit Again.”

peach ravenous–

And no, I’m punaise Not…

oddmommy @ 35

Christy Hardin Smith @ 30

raven at 27 — Thank you. ;-) You are a peach of a man.

that was one of my adjectives…. :)

thufferin thuchotash!

Christy Hardin Smith @ 23

And, while I am thinking of it, I’ve had a very long, very exhausting week, and I still have a house full of company. So please, for my sake, let’s be kind to each other and enjoy the fact that it is Friday. What do you say?

We had a house full of guests last weekend … my kids went to bed at 1 – 2 every morning … how’s Peanut handling the company?

Score one for democracy. The wingnuts failed to stop the concert after all.We’ll support the Meadowlands ,NJ concert. Hope it’s a blowout.

The latest Tom Tomorrow ‘This Modern World‘ needs its own FDL entry. Not JUST because it’s hilariously funny, as usual, but because it shows what the Democratic Party OUGHT to be doing: anticipating the typical lame-ass responses that the “think thanks” will distribute, and preparing counters for every one of them.

I plan to carry copies of this strip in my wallet, and when I am faced with these responses I will simply take the strip out, hand it to whoever I’m addressing, and ask them to get back to me with something that doesn’t constitute a lame logical fallacy.

And how bout a silly iPhone song/vid.

Petrocelli at 40 — She’s doing really well, actually — we’ve tried to keep her as close to her regular schedule as we can. Our company will be here another week and a half, so it’s a good thing to keep her on as even a keel as we can manage — for her sake, and everyone else’s as well. *g*

N=1 @ 36:

These days, knowing what’s going on, and understanding the issues, requires some form of research because of all the copious (mis)information available offline and online.

Biodun at 16 — Sure, feel free. (Just spotted your comment. Am reading and making lunch at the same time…)

Just a reminder, Pat Leahy is having a get togther at his place. You are all invited to come. Dress is causal.

NOTICE OF COMMITTEE HEARING

The Senate Committee on the Judiciary has scheduled a hearing on “Preserving Prosecutorial Independence: Is the Department of Justice Politicizing the Hiring and Firing of U.S. Attorneys? – Part VI” for Wednesday, July 11, 2007 at 10:00 a.m. in Room 226 of the Senate Dirksen Office Building.

By order of the Chairman

Witness List

Hearing before the Senate Judiciary Committee on “Preserving Prosecutorial Independence: Is the Department of Justice Politicizing the Hiring and Firing of U.S. Attorneys? – Part VI”

Wednesday, July 11, 2007

Dirksen Senate Office Building Room 226
10:00 a.m.

Sara M. Taylor
Formerly Deputy Assistant to the President and
Director of Political Affairs
The White House

Christy Hardin Smith @ 44

Petrocelli at 40 — She’s doing really well, actually — we’ve tried to keep her as close to her regular schedule as we can. Our company will be here another week and a half, so it’s a good thing to keep her on as even a keel as we can manage — for her sake, and everyone else’s as well. *g*

You can all take turns running her around until she gets tuckered out and goes to bed … be warned … this does not work for kids over 10 … they have limitless energy … *g*

AZ Matt @ 47

Just a reminder, Pat Leahy is having a get togther at his place. You are all invited to come. Dress is causal.

NOTICE OF COMMITTEE HEARING

The Senate Committee on the Judiciary has scheduled a hearing on “Preserving Prosecutorial Independence: Is the Department of Justice Politicizing the Hiring and Firing of U.S. Attorneys? – Part VI” for Wednesday, July 11, 2007 at 10:00 a.m. in Room 226 of the Senate Dirksen Office Building.

By order of the Chairman

Witness List

Hearing before the Senate Judiciary Committee on “Preserving Prosecutorial Independence: Is the Department of Justice Politicizing the Hiring and Firing of U.S. Attorneys? – Part VI”

Wednesday, July 11, 2007

Dirksen Senate Office Building Room 226
10:00 a.m.

Sara M. Taylor
Formerly Deputy Assistant to the President and
Director of Political Affairs
The White House

Dress is causal… heh heh … excellent !

Re: Us voters:

Here’s the paragraph before the one I cited above from The New Yorker:

The political knowledge of the average voter has been tested repeatedly, and the scores are impressively low. In polls taken since 1945, a majority of Americans have been unable to name a single branch of government, define the terms “liberal” and “conservative,” and explain what the Bill of Rights is. More than two-thirds have reported that they do not know the substance of Roe v. Wade and what the Food and Drug Administration does. Nearly half do not know that states have two senators and three-quarters do not know the length of a Senate term. More than fifty per cent of Americans cannot name their congressman; forty per cent cannot name either of their senators. Voters’ notions of government spending are wildly distorted: the public believes that foreign aid consumes twenty-four per cent of the federal budget, for example, though it actually consumes about one per cent.

Biodun @ 31

OT–

As we approach the 2008 election season (some say we’re in it already), interesting bit about US voters in The New Yorker:

Even apart from ignorance of the basic facts, most people simply do not think politically. They cannot see, for example, that the opinion that taxes should be lower is incompatible with the opinion that there should be more government programs. Their grasp of terms such as “affirmative action” and “welfare” is perilously uncertain: if you ask people whether they favor spending more on welfare, most say no; if you ask whether they favor spending more on assistance to the poor, most say yes. And, over time, individuals give different answers to the same questions about their political opinions. People simply do not spend much time learning about political issues or thinking through their own positions. They may have opinions—if asked whether they are in favor of capital punishment or free-trade agreements, most people will give an answer—but the opinions are not based on information or derived from a coherent political philosophy. They are largely attitudinal and ad hoc.

This is so true. I think the Republican party has played to this fundamental ignorance of politics in the US. How to start changing it?

Christy Hardin Smith @ 46

Biodun at 16 — Sure, feel free. (Just spotted your comment. Am reading and making lunch at the same time…)

I assumed it was fine. As you can see, I’ve already gone ahead without your kind permission…*g*

And on the 24th of July, we get a return engagement of Mr. Ableberto(I Can’t Recall) Gonzales, aka Gonzo, at Pat Leahy’s FunRoom!

NOTICE OF COMMITTEE HEARING

DATE AND TIME CHANGE TO TUESDAY, JULY 24, 2007 AT 9:30 A.M. The hearing on “Oversight of the U.S. Department of Justice” scheduled by the Senate Committee on the Judiciary will take place on Tuesday, July 24, 2007 at 9:30 a.m. in Room 216 of the Senate Hart Office Building, rather than the previously scheduled date of Wednesday, July 18, 2007.

By order of the Chairman

Witness List

Hearing before the Senate Judiciary Committee on “Oversight of the U.S. Department of Justice”

Wednesday, July 18, 2007
Hart Senate Office Building Room 216
10:00 a.m.

The Honorable Alberto Gonzales
Attorney General of the United States
Department of Justice
Washington, DC

Fred @ 12

Neat map. One suggestion for them: the map needs to have ‘carbon/pollution per capita’ to really show usage patterns. TX has nearly three times as much pollution, per person, as CA, which I think is interesting. (Alaska is something of an outlier, because of location and climate.)

AZ Matt @ 47

Just a reminder, Pat Leahy is having a get togther at his place. You are all invited to come. Dress is causal.

NOTICE OF COMMITTEE HEARING

The Senate Committee on the Judiciary has scheduled a hearing on “Preserving Prosecutorial Independence: Is the Department of Justice Politicizing the Hiring and Firing of U.S. Attorneys? – Part VI” for Wednesday, July 11, 2007 at 10:00 a.m. in Room 226 of the Senate Dirksen Office Building.

By order of the Chairman

Witness List

Hearing before the Senate Judiciary Committee on “Preserving Prosecutorial Independence: Is the Department of Justice Politicizing the Hiring and Firing of U.S. Attorneys? – Part VI”

Wednesday, July 11, 2007

Dirksen Senate Office Building Room 226
10:00 a.m.

Sara M. Taylor
Formerly Deputy Assistant to the President and
Director of Political Affairs
The White House

I thought Fielding was refusing to allow Sara Taylor to testify. Didn’t he include her in the executive privilige letter?

AZ Matt @ 53

And on the 24th of July, we get a return engagement of Mr. Ableberto(I Can’t Recall) Gonzales, aka Gonzo, at Pat Leahy’s FunRoom!

NOTICE OF COMMITTEE HEARING

DATE AND TIME CHANGE TO TUESDAY, JULY 24, 2007 AT 9:30 A.M. The hearing on “Oversight of the U.S. Department of Justice” scheduled by the Senate Committee on the Judiciary will take place on Tuesday, July 24, 2007 at 9:30 a.m. in Room 216 of the Senate Hart Office Building, rather than the previously scheduled date of Wednesday, July 18, 2007.

By order of the Chairman

Witness List

Hearing before the Senate Judiciary Committee on “Oversight of the U.S. Department of Justice”

Wednesday, July 18, 2007
Hart Senate Office Building Room 216
10:00 a.m.

The Honorable Alberto Gonzales
Attorney General of the United States
Department of Justice
Washington, DC

Can we send Whitehouse some Lozenges … just to make sure his throat is in working order ?!! *g*

AZ Matt @ 47

Just a reminder, Pat Leahy is having a get togther at his place. You are all invited to come. Dress is causal.

NOTICE OF COMMITTEE HEARING

The Senate Committee on the Judiciary has scheduled a hearing on “Preserving Prosecutorial Independence: Is the Department of Justice Politicizing the Hiring and Firing of U.S. Attorneys? – Part VI” for Wednesday, July 11, 2007 at 10:00 a.m. in Room 226 of the Senate Dirksen Office Building.

By order of the Chairman

Witness List

Hearing before the Senate Judiciary Committee on “Preserving Prosecutorial Independence: Is the Department of Justice Politicizing the Hiring and Firing of U.S. Attorneys? – Part VI”

Wednesday, July 11, 2007

Dirksen Senate Office Building Room 226
10:00 a.m.

Sara M. Taylor
Formerly Deputy Assistant to the President and
Director of Political Affairs
The White House

I don’t think so. Fred says no

See page 3, second full paragraph. Bush is claiming Executive Privlege for both Taylor and Miers.

Well Pat Leahy says Sara Taylor is the Guest of Honor so if she don’t show the fur will really start to fly I think. It is called giving the WH enough rope to hang themselves.

It’s great that they’re doing that concert there. I don’t live in DC but it’s a great opportunity.

I also want to encourage other DC, VA, MD people to join the protests there. We really need to stop blogging and get into the streets.

I also want to encourage all of us to do this too.

I think the time is RIPE for IMPEACHMENT parties, don’t you?

Chrisy and Jane, TRex, Emptywheel and all of you, couldn’t we have thread headers about people who have brought their protests to the street? There are so many people who deserve to be honored in my neck of the woods. They have protest every day at 5 pm in A2 and the organizers come prepared with signs and so on… And the MAP and CAP offer protest every Sunday at 12 noon bringing signs too.

I wonder if FDL could arrange days to surround our local offices days. Or to dress up like Republicans and swarm our local media. Maybe when the new Harry Potter is released, we could have a “Harry Potter for Impeachment” day.

Whatever the idea, wouldn’t it be great to find local ways to build momentum?

So being ‘nice’ on Friday does not apply to Raven?

O Christy, you shocked me the other day when you wrote that constituents to be represented were those who had voted for the elected person. Perhaps that is the great difference between the US and democracies. In democracies “constituents” are everybody in the voting district for whomever they voted or did not vote or whether they are even registered. I believe the OED bears me out in that definition.

Paging Tula:

From AP:

Clinton Vows Labor – Friendly Presidency

Filed at 12:12 p.m. ET

CLEVELAND (AP) — Hillary Clinton promised cheering steelworkers Friday that she would offer a labor-friendly White House and would promote manufacturing if elected president.

”We are going to revitalize our manufacturing base,” the Democratic senator from New York told union leaders at a conference on manufacturing sponsored by the United Steelworkers of America. The union’s membership has fallen with declining manufacturing.

”I don’t think we can be a great nation without a manufacturing base,” she said. ”If we don’t keep making things, we’re not going to sustain our economic standard of living or our quality of life.”

maunga @ 60

So being ‘nice’ on Friday does not apply to Raven?

O Christy, you shocked me the other day when you wrote that constituents to be represented were those who had voted for the elected person. Perhaps that is the great difference between the US and democracies. In democracies “constituents” are everybody in the voting district for whomever they voted or did not vote or whether they are even registered. I believe the OED bears me out in that definition.

What, she asked me and I said ok?

Just in case you it is warm whee you are consider these places:

Temperatures climbed so high across much of the West on Thursday that authorities warned residents of southern Nevada, southeastern California and northwestern Arizona that outdoor activities could be dangerous except during the cooler early morning hours. Phoenix reached 115 degrees; Baker, Calif., reached 125 degrees.

Re: Clinton (Hillary, that is) and labor:

This is quite telling I think:

She avoided discussion of the North American Free Trade Agreement, which her husband, former President Clinton, backed and which unions blame for the loss of jobs. She promised to make sure trade agreement provisions are kept to ensure fair trade.

Unlike fellow Democratic candidates John Edwards, Joe Biden and Dennis Kucinich, who spoke to the conference Thursday and took questions from the floor, Clinton left without participating in a question-and-answer session planned by the union.

AZ Matt @ 53

And on the 24th of July, we get a return engagement of Mr. Ableberto(I Can’t Recall) Gonzales, aka Gonzo, at Pat Leahy’s FunRoom!

NOTICE OF COMMITTEE HEARING

DATE AND TIME CHANGE TO TUESDAY, JULY 24, 2007 AT 9:30 A.M. The hearing on “Oversight of the U.S. Department of Justice” scheduled by the Senate Committee on the Judiciary will take place on Tuesday, July 24, 2007 at 9:30 a.m. in Room 216 of the Senate Hart Office Building, rather than the previously scheduled date of Wednesday, July 18, 2007.

By order of the Chairman

Witness List

Hearing before the Senate Judiciary Committee on “Oversight of the U.S. Department of Justice”

Wednesday, July 18, 2007
Hart Senate Office Building Room 216
10:00 a.m.

The Honorable Alberto Gonzales
Attorney General of the United States
Department of Justice
Washington, DC

Ohhh!!! My birthday is 25 July…wonder if this will be worth taking out time from my busy retirement schedule of reading FDL and various books and the occasional catnap.

Since we’re free to OT –

ALBUQUERQUE Rep. John Doolittle, a conservative California congressman, today joined others in his party rapidly deserting the president on the Iraq war.

http://www.editorandpublisher……1003607658

Guess that means Doolittle isn’t getting paid anymore.

In Indianapolis, there’s a Motion sometimes made by lawyers: for a continuance based on the Rule in Shelley’s Case. (Shelley’s Case is an old, old Property Law case and, quite frankly, I don’t remember what it’s about). Here, it means, “hey Judge, everything’s worked out already, but I haven’t been paid yet – can ya help a brother out?”

In other words, I’m thinking that maybe Doolittle is now turning against the war based upon the Rule in Shelley’s Case.

Re: Impeachment.

54% of the country wants Cheney impeached.

AZ Matt @ 63

Just in case you it is warm whee you are consider these places:

Temperatures climbed so high across much of the West on Thursday that authorities warned residents of southern Nevada, southeastern California and northwestern Arizona that outdoor activities could be dangerous except during the cooler early morning hours. Phoenix reached 115 degrees; Baker, Calif., reached 125 degrees.

But it’s a dry heat…bone dry.

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KABUL, AFGHANISTAN — After more than five years of increasingly intense warfare, the conflict in Afghanistan reached a grim milestone in the first half of this year: U.S. troops and their NATO allies killed more civilians than insurgents did, according to several independent tallies.

The upsurge in deaths at the hands of Western forces has been driven by Taliban tactics as well as by actions of the American military and its allies

Wonder how many coal-fired KwH will get consumed at the concert?

Problematic.

We are in deep shit, climatologically. And with respect to sustainability more generally (we will likely be consuming 2x the planet’s annual carrying capacity by 2050).

Biodun @ 32

OT–

As we approach the 2008 election season (some say we’re in it already), interesting bit about US voters in The New Yorker:
[snip]

One of the big polling houses admits that around 6% of the answers they get on any topic are just random. On issues that directly affect them (economy, say), answers are pretty sensible. But when you ask about abstract policy or political questions, even people who have heard about it will generally give the answer they last heard from someone they admire. The others will try to answer as though it were a test – they will look for clues in the phrasing as to what the “right” answer is.

james @ 65

AZ Matt @ 53

And on the 24th of July, we get a return engagement of Mr. Ableberto(I Can’t Recall) Gonzales, aka Gonzo, at Pat Leahy’s FunRoom!

Ohhh!!! My birthday is 25 July…wonder if this will be worth taking out time from my busy retirement schedule of reading FDL and various books and the occasional catnap.

… worth it just to watch Whitehouse nail question Abu … *g*

Biodun @ 61

Paging Tula:

From AP:

Clinton Vows Labor – Friendly Presidency

Filed at 12:12 p.m. ET

CLEVELAND (AP) — Hillary Clinton promised cheering steelworkers Friday that she would offer a labor-friendly White House and would promote manufacturing if elected president.

”We are going to revitalize our manufacturing base,” the Democratic senator from New York told union leaders at a conference on manufacturing sponsored by the United Steelworkers of America. The union’s membership has fallen with declining manufacturing.

”I don’t think we can be a great nation without a manufacturing base,” she said. ”If we don’t keep making things, we’re not going to sustain our economic standard of living or our quality of life.”

Let’s see her get behind unionizing the guards at Indian Point in Westchester County and then let’s see her itemized plan for reforming the NLRB and instituting the ideas that were behind the original ILO before anyone thinks she’ll be anything but anti-worker, anti-labor.

I’m sure her big corporate donors spewed their coffee when they read that little gem of disinformation.

Just how does she propose revitalizing the educational system to educate people in how to be workers instead of button pushers or mouse-clickers?

Yeah, Hillary Clinton the inheritor of Mother Jones’ legacy.

Gimme a break.

http://www.humanevents.com/art…..=1#hec2968

Tell this jagoff what you think of his nonfactual, whiny little column.

jayt @ 66

Since we’re free to OT –

ALBUQUERQUE Rep. John Doolittle, a conservative California congressman, today joined others in his party rapidly deserting the president on the Iraq war.

http://www.editorandpublisher……1003607658

Guess that means Doolittle isn’t getting paid anymore.

In Indianapolis, there’s a Motion sometimes made by lawyers: for a continuance based on the Rule in Shelley’s Case. (Shelley’s Case is an old, old Property Law case and, quite frankly, I don’t remember what it’s about). Here, it means, “hey Judge, everything’s worked out already, but I haven’t been paid yet – can ya help a brother out?”

In other words, I’m thinking that maybe Doolittle is now turning against the war based upon the Rule in Shelley’s Case.

Did the RISC have something to do with the Rule Againt Perpetuities? That’s the one where a conveyance of property has to vest within 21 years of “a life in being” at the time. Or something like that. I just remember that the life in being thing used to confuse the hell out of me.

Can they put Sara Taylor in jail if she doesn’t come testify?

Has anyone thought of the ultimate irony that Fitz may argue that the rule of law requires no probation in the circumstances and Libby arguing “yes please give me some probation i want it please.” And that Libby may in fact get off with no punishment at all?

I am seriously beginning to feel like a ten pin, knocked down again and again by the Bush bowling balls that keep coming down the alley. No amount of investigation is ever going to get to the cr*ppiness of this administration.

The options are too many and too time consuming to be effective. With the unrelenting mockery of the the admin. and its media minions, the dems are paralyzed.

Why aren’t we in the streets?

Sparkles the Iguana @ 73

http://www.humanevents.com/art…..=1#hec2968

Tell this jagoff what you think of his nonfactual, whiny little column.

Not worth the time or effort.

Great Ben Sargent toon on SCOTUS!

Oliphant on Commutation

Luckovich on the Cheney puppet show!

Toles on the Republican Monkey!

Oh oh…

From AP:

Filed at 12:51 p.m. ET

(AP) — A federal appeals court Friday ordered the dismissal of a lawsuit challenging President Bush’s domestic spying program, saying the plaintiffs had no standing to sue.

The 2-1 ruling by the 6th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals panel vacated a 2006 order by a lower court in Detroit, which had found the post-Sept. 11 warrantless surveillance aimed at uncovering terrorist activity to be unconstitutional, violating rights to privacy and free speech and the separation of powers.

Did the RISC have something to do with the Rule Againt Perpetuities? That’s the one where a conveyance of property has to vest within 21 years of “a life in being” at the time. Or something like that. I just remember that the life in being thing used to confuse the hell out of me.

hmmm…I think you’re right. And it’s still good law around here (whatever it is – I *do* know that much) – glad I don’t work in that area.

james @ 77

Sparkles the Iguana @ 73

http://www.humanevents.com/art…..=1#hec2968

Tell this jagoff what you think of his nonfactual, whiny little column.

Not worth the time or effort.

Agreed. That’s gonna be a de facto Yahoo Board.

Petrocelli @ 49

AZ Matt @ 47

Just a reminder, Pat Leahy is having a get togther at his place. You are all invited to come. Dress is causal.

Dress is causal… heh heh … excellent !

actually, it might be formal. Sara has been subpoenaed after all.

Biodun @ 79

Oh oh…

From AP:

Filed at 12:51 p.m. ET

(AP) — A federal appeals court Friday ordered the dismissal of a lawsuit challenging President Bush’s domestic spying program, saying the plaintiffs had no standing to sue.

The 2-1 ruling by the 6th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals panel vacated a 2006 order by a lower court in Detroit, which had found the post-Sept. 11 warrantless surveillance aimed at uncovering terrorist activity to be unconstitutional, violating rights to privacy and free speech and the separation of powers.

Y’see, Yossarian, ya gotta be able prove that you were the subject of secret domestic spying to have “standing to sue.” Which, of course, you can’t. It’s secret.

Neat-o.

On a lighter note:

(It’s Friday after all, and it’s been a hectic coupla weeks…)

Plenty of people evidently take numerical oddities and coincidences much more seriously, though — and for them, tomorrow, July 7, 2007, written as 7-7-7, looks like a date bursting with the promise of good fortune.

All over the country, but especially in Nevada, people are planning to tap into the aura of the date by taking plunges. Tens of thousands of couples plan to marry tomorrow specifically because of the date.

silence is complicity @ 75

Can they put Sara Taylor in jail if she doesn’t come testify?

yup.

Hillary Clinton is the Republic’s dream Democratic candidate. Why is her ego so large that she has to run?

TiredFed @ 86

silence is complicity @ 75

Can they put Sara Taylor in jail if she doesn’t come testify?

yup.

But will they?

Biodun @ 79

Oh oh…

From AP:

Filed at 12:51 p.m. ET

(AP) — A federal appeals court Friday ordered the dismissal of a lawsuit challenging President Bush’s domestic spying program, saying the plaintiffs had no standing to sue.

The 2-1 ruling by the 6th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals panel vacated a 2006 order by a lower court in Detroit, which had found the post-Sept. 11 warrantless surveillance aimed at uncovering terrorist activity to be unconstitutional, violating rights to privacy and free speech and the separation of powers.

This after a ruling in another case that ordinary citizens have no standing when it comes to challenging separation of church and state re: tax expenditures to faith-based organizations and the promotion of religion by the executive branch.

Another crock of sh*t.

Biodun @ 31

OT–

As we approach the 2008 election season (some say we’re in it already), interesting bit about US voters in The New Yorker:

Even apart from ignorance of the basic facts, most people simply do not think politically.

I think Americans are the most egregious at disconnecting all the parts of life that make up the whole as though they are unrelated. Politics is life. The food we eat is politics, the water we drink is politics, the air we breathe is politics. I know of nothing more integrated and intertwined in life than politics. Yet we hear over and over, “Oh it is just politics.” We treat art the same way. I lived in a culture in Southeast Asia in which the word for life and art were one and the same. They couldn’t understand how we could separate them. Life is art. Art is life. Life is politics. Politics is life.

I’ve just decided to start the world’s simplest movement. Here’s how it works:

1. Take an 8.5 x 11 piece of paper, and write “IMPEACH” on it with a big marker. Write large, so it fills the whole page.

2. Tape it to the rear window of your car.

If you have extra energy left over, make a bunch more and carry them around to hand out or tape up places.

– MarkusQ

Helen @ 87

TiredFed @ 86

yup.

But will they?

signs point to “no.”

QuakerGirl @ 90:

I agree with you completely: Art-Life-Food-Politics. (I would add sex.)

I’ve lived in mainland China, and in other cultures as well.

Michael Gordon continues his breathless reporting from Iraq. It’s still all about al Qaeda. The boys are making limited progress for a limited period of time in some small corner of Iraq, according to Gordon.

Gordon does mention that no progress is happening on the political front. However, he doesn’t point out that this renders all his upbeat stories completely and absolutely futile.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/07…..ref=slogin

QuakerGirl @ 90

I lived in a culture in Southeast Asia in which the word for life and art were one and the same. They couldn’t understand how we could separate them. Life is art. Art is life. Life is politics. Politics is life.

So politics is art? Aaaaaghh!

Hi guys. And raven! I just got here and I did ready Marcy’s post, but not all of the comments. I’m wondering if it’s possible to do a cloudy with a chance of meatballs kind of thing. Censure, with the understanding that it could move to impeachment…

Biodun @ 92

QuakerGirl @ 90:

I agree with you completely: Art-Life-Food-Politics. (I would add sex.)

I’ve lived in mainland China, and in other cultures as well.

I am he as you are me and we are all together.

When Hillary says “labor friendly” is she referring to labor leaders coming from the rank and file or labor leaders who hobnob with the corporate bosses? I need to know because this statement can go either way and I want to know who stands behind that statement. Mobsters are die-hard capitalists with bottom-line self-interest. What labor leaders does she admire most and why? Who does she see in the forefront of labor today?

Hey Mods – why are my comments going into moderation?

Loo Hoo. @ 94

Hi guys. And raven! I just got here and I did ready Marcy’s post, but not all of the comments. I’m wondering if it’s possible to do a cloudy with a chance of meatballs kind of thing. Censure, with the understanding that it could move to impeachment…

Hi Loo Hoo – or do a backwards censure. Make them vote on whether it was a fabulous thing for Bush to do.

oddmommy @ 95

Biodun @ 92

QuakerGirl @ 90:

I agree with you completely: Art-Life-Food-Politics. (I would add sex.)

I’ve lived in mainland China, and in other cultures as well.

I am he as you are me and we are all together.

coo coo coo choob

Biodun @ 85

On a lighter note:

(It’s Friday after all, and it’s been a hectic coupla weeks…)

Plenty of people evidently take numerical oddities and coincidences much more seriously, though — and for them, tomorrow, July 7, 2007, written as 7-7-7, looks like a date bursting with the promise of good fortune.

All over the country, but especially in Nevada, people are planning to tap into the aura of the date by taking plunges. Tens of thousands of couples plan to marry tomorrow specifically because of the date.

Can you see all the forgetful spouses-to-be sigh, “At least that date is easy to remember!”

Re: Hillary and labor:

Hillary night or might or might not be genuinely “labor-friendly,” but she sure has been picking up a lot of union endorsements.

MarkusQ @ 91

I’ve just decided to start the world’s simplest movement. Here’s how it works:

1. Take an 8.5 x 11 piece of paper, and write “IMPEACH” on it with a big marker. Write large, so it fills the whole page.

2. Tape it to the rear window of your car.

If you have extra energy left over, make a bunch more and carry them around to hand out or tape up places.

After making a few I’ve decided it works better if you cut/tear the sheet in half long ways (Alternatively, write “IMPEACH” on the top half and “THEM ALL” on the bottom).

– MarkusQ

Benson cartoon on Bush and Scooter!

TiredFed @ 83

Petrocelli @ 49

Dress is causal… heh heh … excellent !

actually, it might be formal. Sara has been subpoenaed after all.

there still will be popcorn

oddmommy @ 96

Biodun @ 92

QuakerGirl @ 90:

I agree with you completely: Art-Life-Food-Politics. (I would add sex.)

I’ve lived in mainland China, and in other cultures as well.

I am he as you are me and we are all together.

You got that right! And as long as we are on this planet at this point in time I am your keeper, Oddmommy, and you are mine. I promise I will not pollute the water you need to sustain life.

Regarding impeachment. Winning isn’t everything. It’s how we play the game that’s important.

On a lighter note: Part II:

July 7, 2007, also referred to as 7/7/07 or triple sevens, is slated to be the biggest wedding date in history, and it’s proving true locally as well as nationally.

“The Knot has researched past dates, such as Y2K, but no other date even comes close to the popularity of July 7, 2007,” said Christa Vagnozzi, senior editor at The Knot magazine, based out of New York City. “On a typical Saturday in July TheKnot.com has approximately 12,000 members tying the knot, but on 7/7/07 there are over 38,000 Knot members getting married.”

Whether a marriage or any other enterprise begun on such a “lucky” date will have any more than the usual staying power remains to be seen, of course.

E. J. Dionne has a decent post today. He does not quite say the pardon is obstruction of justice, but almost. Dionne even makes nice with bloggers.
————————-
Notice the pattern: When the heat was on in the CIA leak case, Bush issued a strong pledge to fire anybody involved in leaking. He didn’t. When Libby was indicted, Bush ducked comment until Libby was at prison’s door. Now, by keeping Libby free, Bush can conveniently postpone a full pardon until after the 2008 election. In the meantime, Libby has no incentive to tell prosecutors anything new about what happened in this case. As liberal blogs have noted, since he was not pardoned outright, he can use the pending appeal of his conviction to avoid testifying before Congress.

Gordon — You are freed up, and I’m not certain what’s tripping the filters. We’re checking…sorry about the inconvenience.

AZ Matt

you’ll have to pick your favorite, I liked the first and the last best

UCS editorial cartoon contest

Biodun @ 80

Oh oh…

From AP:

Filed at 12:51 p.m. ET

(AP) — A federal appeals court Friday ordered the dismissal of a lawsuit challenging President Bush’s domestic spying program, saying the plaintiffs had no standing to sue.

The 2-1 ruling by the 6th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals panel vacated a 2006 order by a lower court in Detroit, which had found the post-Sept. 11 warrantless surveillance aimed at uncovering terrorist activity to be unconstitutional, violating rights to privacy and free speech and the separation of powers.

Biodun:

I think the courts ruled the program itself was in fact unconstitutional, but that the plaintifs did not show they were directly impacted so the suit was dismissed.

Froomkin’s up.

Christy Hardin Smith @ 111

Gordon — You are freed up, and I’m not certain what’s tripping the filters. We’re checking…sorry about the inconvenience.

Thanks, Christy.

I realize full well that we aren’t probably going to get a super majority. And I don’t require lectures along this line. No probable conviction does not alter my perspective on impeachment. Impeach Richard Cheney.

Meanwhile, after a quick cruise, back finally to this thread’s topic:

Filed at 12:54 p.m. ET

SYDNEY, Australia (AP) — A ninth Live Earth concert was added Friday to the global series of shows highlighting climate change, whose worldwide lineup includes Madonna, Metallica, The Police and Kanye West.

Country music stars Garth Brooks and Tricia Yearwood will headline a show in Washington on the National Mall, about two blocks from the U.S. Capitol. The biggest names will appear at Live Earth concerts in London and the United States, with more modest lineups of mostly local and regional acts in Australia, Japan, China, South Africa, Brazil and Germany.

Fresh thread, up and running for everyone.

Biodun @ 107

On a lighter note: Part II:

July 7, 2007, also referred to as 7/7/07 or triple sevens, is slated to be the biggest wedding date in history, and it’s proving true locally as well as nationally.

“The Knot has researched past dates, such as Y2K, but no other date even comes close to the popularity of July 7, 2007,” said Christa Vagnozzi, senior editor at The Knot magazine, based out of New York City. “On a typical Saturday in July TheKnot.com has approximately 12,000 members tying the knot, but on 7/7/07 there are over 38,000 Knot members getting married.”

Whether a marriage or any other enterprise begun on such a “lucky” date will have any more than the usual staying power remains to be seen, of course.

yeah. I’m on pins and needles waiting to see how many divorce lawyers are gonna be out of a job…..

Frank33 @ 110

E. J. Dionne has a decent post today. He does not quite say the pardon is obstruction of justice, but almost. Dionne even makes nice with bloggers.
————————-
Notice the pattern: When the heat was on in the CIA leak case, Bush issued a strong pledge to fire anybody involved in leaking. He didn’t. When Libby was indicted, Bush ducked comment until Libby was at prison’s door. Now, by keeping Libby free, Bush can conveniently postpone a full pardon until after the 2008 election. In the meantime, Libby has no incentive to tell prosecutors anything new about what happened in this case. As liberal blogs have noted, since he was not pardoned outright, he can use the pending appeal of his conviction to avoid testifying before Congress.

just a clarification, Bush did not wait until the last minute. he acted swiftly once the Appeals Court turned down Libby’s emergency appeal to stay out of jail. There’s a reason he acted so fast. Think about it.

Elliott @ 112

AZ Matt

you’ll have to pick your favorite, I liked the first and the last best

UCS editorial cartoon contest

They are all good. I liked #9.

oddmommy @ 75 and
jayt @81 say:
Did the RISC have something to do with the Rule Againt Perpetuities? That’s the one where a conveyance of property has to vest within 21 years of “a life in being” at the time. Or something like that. I just remember that the life in being thing used to confuse the hell out of me.

hmmm…I think you’re right. And it’s still good law around here (whatever it is – I *do* know that much) – glad I don’t work in that area.
———-
Rule against Purp.
Dunno if it’s Shelly’s Case, but if memory serves, it’s:
title must vest within 21 years from lives in being, *plus* periods of gestation.
humm.. So, life begins when?

Christy, Jane, Marcy, Pach, TRex & beloved FDLers,

*******54%*******
the TIPPING POINT has arrived
IMPEACH starting with CHENEY.

The concerts are great, though they remind me of the South Park “DFH episode” where the refrain is something ephemeral like, “changing the world through rocking out” etc.

How many people are willing to risk everything?
Drop everything? Immerse themselves for a week (or some defined time frame)
to fight (ATTACK!) this aberration?

TO get in REAL touch with the thus far “untouchables”
i.e., our Republican Reps and Sens AND their constituents?

Are our progressive blog leaders ready
TO coordinate a massive scale FULL COURT PRESS
and appeal to the Souls and Consciences of those on the RIGHT?

TO Judo the h3ll out of their motives???
TO tell them that the only way to:
1) PROVE the integrity of the GOP
2) Authenticate their mission of distancing themselves from BushCo &
3) Give themselves a chance of continued employment in Congress
is
TO JOIN with us to unseat the ROT that has taken over our government.

WE HAVE TO DO THIS IF WE ARE TO SUCCEED.
THIS IS WHERE OUR FOCUS MUST BE.

IT’S SO OBVIOUS IT’S EXCRUCIATING.

Are we so focused on keeping Congress (after 08) to ourselves that we eschew collaborating with those who might share the chamber towards a greater good? We may be have engaged Iran by then. After which all bets are off.
Think about it. Shame on us if we think we can go it alone… (blergh!)

Too bad those out on the lawns and in stadiums on 7.7.07 won’t also be equipped with a list of phone numbers to call and addresses to write.
(or will they?)

Being VISIBLE is one thing –
Making your impact on another’s livelihood known is quite another!
(We feel it everyday; turn the tables!)

Joint effort on a massive scale, is what it will take.

CAN WE DO IT?

I DON’T WANT TO RECEIVE A SINGLE $OLICITATION
FROM ANYONE
UNTIL SOMETHING ACTUALLY

*THOUGHTFUL AND REVOLUTIONARY*

IS UNDERTAKEN BY OUR LEADERSHIP.

This means all of the left blogs and all of the disgruntled right blogs TOO!

ANY TAKERS?

Let’s strategize: OPERATION IMPEACHMENT
(A real ACT of Patriotism!)
WHO are the PRESSURE POINTS!?
WHO are the ones we never dared lobby?
Let’s compile the lists & POST WIDELY
Let’s designate an IMPEACHMENT Week (or month)

Jung called it transcendence – the point at the top of the triangle.
At the MIDPOINT and ELEVATED ABOVE the baseline.

FOCUS on that point!
NOTHING ELSE MATTERS!

/this admonition rant brought to you by an
empath, expressing the vibe of the masses

TribeScribe and all — Please don’t post incredibly long comments. It trips the filters because they think you are a scroll troll, and your comment has to be backed out manually. Thanks.

Christy, that’s disappointing to hear.
Please read what I wrote.
Every word.

TribeScribe at 124 — I’ll read it when I get a chance (see note above about house full of company). But I don’t see why it is unfortunate that we try and keep the comments from from scroll trolling considering that has shut down other sites entirely. You are free to make your point in a concise manner — what I’m saying is, you shouldn’t post a long post like that and expect someone to be able to pull it out of mod instantaneously — because that can’t always be done — and I wanted to forewarn everyone that may be a problem, given that we don’t have infinite resources and lately comments have been getting really long from some quarters.

Consider it a helpful hint — and don’t come griping to me if your long comments get stuck if you don’t take it. ;-)

Christy, with all due respect to your house full of guests,

Maybe the real hint is that the comments
are getting longer because there is more to say
regarding potential direction and action to take.

I don’t care if the comment hangs for the
fraction of additional attention required for
discernment.

I stand by my suggestions,
born of my experience as a unifier of diverse interests
born of my experience as a project manager
born of attention to my fellow citizens
born of my sincerity and convictions

and if valid-though-complex suggestions
will be met with reprobation for not being
a sound bite or for not toeing the line of technicality, then I will reconsider offering
my insights to FDL to accept as a constituent.

Perhaps someone else will be interested.

Sorry it wasn’t a soundbyte.
My aim was to potentiate a wave of productive
strategizing and activity.

I come from a systems view. To wit:
Listen to and take action on the suggestions and
the length of the comments will no longer be a concern.

raven @ 27

Christy Hardin Smith @ 23

And, while I am thinking of it, I’ve had a very long, very exhausting week, and I still have a house full of company. So please, for my sake, let’s be kind to each other and enjoy the fact that it is Friday. What do you say?

Darn, just when I was really going to attack! Your wish is my command.

Me too, Raven. Christy is FAR nicer than I could ever be!!!!

QuakerGirl says “I think Americans are the most egregious at disconnecting all the parts of life that make up the whole as though they are unrelated. Politics is life. The food we eat is politics, the water we drink is politics, the air we breathe is politics. I know of nothing more integrated and intertwined in life than politics. Yet we hear over and over, “Oh it is just politics.” We treat art the same way. I lived in a culture in Southeast Asia in which the word for life and art were one and the same. They couldn’t understand how we could separate them. Life is art. Art is life. Life is politics. Politics is life.”

I just threw up in my mouth a little. What a load of ka ka.

Christy,
Thank you again for today’s post. We must all take the time to rest our weary minds and refresh our souls. My little trip back to my childhood has helped restore the blind enthusiasm and can do attitude that we sometimes lose as adults. It’s good to take the armor off. Good day to you!

raven @ 39

oddmommy @ 35

that was one of my adjectives…. :)

thufferin thuchotash!

take your own advice “get over yourself” geez