(Photo of coffee and a cinnamon vanilla sugar honey brioche donut via Chodta.)
I'm not sure what is less surprising this morning -- that Paul Wolfowitz has a new wingnut welfare gig at the American Enterprise Institute or that Stu Rothenberg and David Broder have characterized listening to the grassroots of the Democratic party (and in Broder's case, listening to pretty much anyone who takes a position with which he disagrees) as tantamount to capitulating to...well, capitulating to the will of the people who elected you to office in the first place.
Good lord.
Here's a refresher: members of Congress and the President are elected by the people and, as such, they are expected to look not only at the long-term and short-term implications of various policies and possible actions and make up their minds based on reason and facts. But they are also obliged to listen to their constituents (i.e. the people who elected them in the first place), and not the select group of persons we call "pundits" -- whose understanding of what people outside the Georgetown cocktail party set wants is pretty much nil.
Rothenberg's piece, in particular, is a disingenuous example of a consultant trying to tell his clients what they want to hear -- and missing the point entirely. Let me illustrate this with Rothenberg's own words:
Congressional Democrats apparently were surprised by the base’s reaction to the bill’s passage. They shouldn’t have been. Have they been living under a rock?We’ve seen grass-roots Democratic anger for the past few years directed at the White House, and the animosity and invective aimed at Sen. Joe Lieberman (ID-Conn.) during his bid for renomination and re-election should have warned House and Senate Democrats that even they are not immune to attacks from left-of-center bloggers who see any cooperation with the White House on Iraq as perfidy.
Increasingly, the Democratic left is acting much the way the Republican right has acted for decades, measuring Capitol Hill behavior against a standard of ideological purity that treats pragmatists as traitors and those who compromise as worse than the enemy.
These voices have always been around, mind you. It is just that they now have a megaphone with the Internet, much as angry conservatives did when talk radio burst on the scene more than a decade ago....
Maybe Democratic leaders could have done a better job preparing angry party activists for the passage of the spending bill, possibly sparing Hill Democrats the nasty e-mails and angry comments on liberal blogs, but I doubt it. Democrats have spent so many months cranking up the volume on Iraq — making it a major issue in the 2006 elections and since then increasing their attacks on the president and his policies — that it would have been very difficult to persuade grass-roots anti-war activists to accept a deal with the White House that funded the war for even another week.
So, to re-cap Rothenberg: Americans who believe what politicians promise as a foundation reason for securing the votes of their constituents are just fooling themselves, and none of us should dare try and hold said politicians to account for failing to live up to those promises. So we should all just lie back, take what we get and think of England, and how dare we expect more. Does that about cover it?
Yes, how dare we, people who actually live in this nation outside the Beltway, expect Democratic politicians to...you know...act like Democrats.
The bit about Lieberman is truly the telling nugget: in Rothenberg's mind, challenging Lieberman was an act of extremism. Here's a clue, Stu -- it was an act of disgust at Turncoat Joe's constant capitulation to the Bush Administration's policy aims, his use of his position in the Democratic party as a means to undercut every strategic and principled policy initiative of the party leadership. If Rothenberg wants an example as to why an enormous grassroots fight was initiated against Lieberman, he need look no further than the finger-wagging "[i]t is time for Democrats who distrust President Bush to acknowledge that he will be Commander-in-Chief for three more critical years, and that in matters of war, we undermine Presidential credibility at our nation’s peril" crap that Lieberman launched just in time to try and deflate the strengthening Democratic party position with regard to Iraq.
Lieberman is a one-man, whining-voiced, finger-wagging Trojan Horse for the GOP. That Rothenberg refuses to admit that publicly and, instead, attempts to blame grassroots voters for calling a shill for what he is just illustrates even further how far the inside the Beltway crowd is out of touch with the rest of America.
Apparently, expecting Democratic politicians to act like Democrats is exactly what the Beltway pundits don't want. And expecting them to have some backbone about the issues that matter to a majority of Americans? Fuggetaboudit. Given how wrong and how off the mark the Beltway pundit crowd has been about the Bush Administration and politics in general the last few years, what this says to me is...what in the hell are Democratic politicians waiting for? Wake up and smell the obvious.
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Zed?
Good morning Christy!
At least Rothenberg got the tag right for Holy Joe:
Lieberman, IDiot from CT.
So close on the zed. At least there are SOME advantages to living on the “wrong” coast. [And being an early bird.]
I’ve been away since Sunday. Anything happen while I was gone…. ?
musicsleuth @ 5
Nope. Same ole, same old. [snark]
At least they are talking about 60%-75% of the American public as the Democrat’s ‘base’ (apparently).
Good morning, Christy.
Good morning Christy. For as much as the DC pundits criticize netroots bloggers, they have no idea why we’re pissed - they obviously haven’t taken the time to read any blogs or just choose to mischaracterize our opinions.
Good Morning Christy.
Wow, that donut looks good.
challenging Lieberman was an act of extremism
So, are all primary challenges against incumbents acts of extremism? Why, then, do primaries exist? Was Ronald Reagan committing treason when he launched a primary challenge to incumbent GOP president Gerald Ford in 1976?
so that’s a brioche? Looks pretty yummy, if french. Freedom donut!?
Mornin’ Christy!
Sorry for the OT, but for those who’ve heard about the one construction success in Iraq being the new embassy, well, maybe not so much after all. From today’s WaPo0
Talk, Talk, Talk.
The Globule has a fine editorial on the Libby mess… but it is missing one element.
The Globe NEEDS to call for Bush and Cheney’s
impeachment…
Otherwise, it goes on and on
http://www.boston.com/news/glo....._but_name/
musicsleuth @ 7
nice.
Diane @ 9
Naw, We da people are not allowed to have opinions that differ from the pundits like Broder. We don’t have the benefit of their vast experience with cocktail weenies. What THEY forget is that THEY’RE the biggest weeenies of all.
Christy -
Please compare Stu Rothenberg’s comments with Michael Hirsh’s comments (via MSNBC): No-Fault Foreign Policy
‘g morning, all - coffee has just finished brewing…
is this guy saying that 70 percent of America is “left of center”? Why even my 88 year old mother thinks Liarman is ridiculous!
Good morning, everyone. Millineryman, if anyone deserves the zed today, you do! I read your comments yesterday about your day in Philadelphia. Bravo!
Good Morning. I just read about the Iraqi embassy. BushCo corruption has made this country totally incompetent.
Good morning Christy from St. Louis, where I’m visiting my daughter,
I’m pretty much over my rage at the Libby travesty, and back to my contempt of such tools/fools as David Broder. He’s going to be a bitter, bitter man after the next election.
And I’ve decided that the only requirement I have for a presidential candidate is a pledge — signed in blood, preferably — to roll back every single atrocity of the Bush administration, from the environment to civil rights to torture and especially those God-Like Presidential Powers he’s assigned himself (it worries me just as much that a Dem might use them).
Do you think anyone will do this? And will they follow through?
Lemme see here…gotta figure out how this spotlight thing works again…hmmm
Diane @ 9
Of course they haven’t. They already know we’re just whiny kids writing in our pajamas from our parents’ basements, ’cause they’ve all heard that from their echo chamber. Why would they actually bother to look at what we write?
I’ve had it with these bozos. Working journalists there may be some hope for, but pundits are a lost cause. I want to take ‘em down.
OldCoastie @ 17
would like to know what measure of “central tendency” they are using to define “center”.
Christy,
While I couldn’t agree with you more, and you make excellent points throughout, Rothenberg’s point to me is he is working the same side of the street as Lieberman.
It’s become clear to me that their objective is to throw out words they know will guarantee return fire. Any progressive movement forward becomes lost in the anger thrown back in their direction. Hence, the likes of Rothenberg and Lieberman are accomplishing exactly what they have set out to do.
Does anything that comes out of their mouths anymore shock us? All that being said I don’t have any answers for how to make the situation any better, just alot of frustration.
Deacon Blues @ 20
No. Nobody wants to vow to restore the Glorious Clinton Status Quo when there is an actual Clinton running. And Hillary will be doing a delicate dance about Bill’s involvement, so she won’t make a pledge like that–an implicit return to the way things were under Bill. No, they’ll all talk about some glorious, though vague, future.
Starbucks was backed up this morning so this dirty effing hippy is going to walk past the opera to get my venti skim no foam latte.
I really need it because it’s tough living inside the beltway. Not only do I have to hear this drivel on the national shows but the local ones also.
booman and bernhard also take on david broder today.
Pfifferling @ 18
Thanks, it was a great experience. I was channeling FDL when I was talking to people about the rampant obstruction of justice that is happening. Looks like something actually seeped into the brain here.
selise @ 24
Same as always — halfway between where the national Republicans are and where the national Democrats are, no matter how far the Republicans move to the right.
What is interesting to me is that the elitist beltway crowd is so astonished by the netroots rise and the beliefs of people on the internet. I don’t consider this to be the far left. I consider it to be the left banding together and expressing themselves from all corners of the nation and a fairly diverse cross-section of America and connecting. Our views aren’t radical–they’ve always been there. But because we are more worried, in general, about putting our efforts into our lives and those of others we don’t all aspire to be in the crowd where one networks socially with people only of their own belief system.
It really pi$$es me off that the normal left is portrayed as new and loony–we’re the same we’ve always been, but now we have an easy way to band together and they can’t stop it. They can not control the message. The best part is that it is not some underground newspaper–we can reach out to many through sites like the Superb Firedoglake and stand together for what is right (and make noise about what is wrong!).
Since theirs is the only opinion that matters, obviously they only require candidates that buy into their dictum. The rest of us can go take a flying *uck & we shouldn’t bother to complain.
1970cs @ 23
I don’t think there’s any danger of movement getting “lost in the anger.” 2006 showed that clearly. If these guys think they’re accomplishing anything other than making themselves feel smug by pissing us off, they’re welcome to continue repeating that mistake.
Redshift @ 30
ah, i see…. what the rest of america thinks is not part of the calculation. thank you for the explaination…. this is all “new math” for me.
Great piece CHS! Wolfowitz proves that crime does pay!
Morning gang — just got back from the preschool drop-off. And yes, that donut does look a tad bit tasty, doesn’t it? *g*
Broder is afraid of “Mob Rule” why unlike ancient Rome or Athens almost everybody in America can read we all watch TV and are aware of what the corporations tell us are the issues. But aparently despite all this thought control the “mob ” made the wrong choice about immigration and the war in Iraq.
Maybe the inbed Patricans of the press and the political ruling class should be wondering why the Plebians are balking. Maybe Broder should realise that Bush is a bad Emperor and the “Mob ” for all their lack of elite “cough ” education caught on to this fact way before the experts like Broder. Maybe Broder should realise that while he is a PR guy putting a spin on things for corporate media and a degenerate ruling class. He is not nor will he ever be part of that ruling class nomatter how much of an Uncle Tom he tries to be.
The American Enterprise Institute, Wolfowitz, and the rest of the “cakewalk in Iraq” zealots have a regime change agenda to complete before 2008!
Redshift at 32
Every time these clowns utter a sentence it’s run through the usual hatefest. Reacting to their intentional insanity is treading water.
OldCoastie @ 17
I was in my doctor’s office two days ago, and as I left, he and the next patient were having a casual conversation about how we have two systems of justice in this country, one for the powerful and one for everyone else. Now I don’t live in a conservative area, so my doctor may well be as liberal as me (I haven’t discussed politics with him.) But his office is in the richest and most Republican part of our area, so the fact that he wouldn’t hesitate to bring it up tells me that people in general get it, and no matter what Broder and Rothenberg think, they know that it stinks.
dakine01 -
Nearly fell off the chair reading the wapo article on the embassy in Iraq around midnite…..it *does not* get much more damning! Do ya reckon the msm will take any notice? Duh! That was a wasted question.
Pfiff -
Good mornin’! Haven’t seen you in donkey’s ears. How’ve you been keeping, darlin’?
OT, but good for a post-4th morning laff. Seriously, they should run something like this in this country.
Speeding: No One Thinks Big of You
I happen to agree that a lot of aggressive young male drivers have doubts about their masculinity. (Disclosure: I am a male.)
It’s all there in the Declaration of Independence. If they would just read it!!!
How the elected are there to do the will of the people….. and the people have a right to declare their will!
oh my!
selise @ 24
Redshift @ 30
Brilliant — absolutely spot on.
MPEACH
Couldn’t put a photoshopped “M” on the image but sending a bunch of postcards (or delivering actual peaches) with an M stuck on them might make a memorable statement from the “70% EXTREMISTS”!
Excellent righteous rant, Christy. a longtime fan here - don’t post often but this post I felt I needed to respond to, if just to say “Hear, here!” and “Bravo!”
Happy Birthday, Waccamaw! I saw you mentioned it in one of yesterday’s threads. Are you enjoying the voodoo doll? It’s cold and rainy here in Munich. I’m wearing a fleece pullover!
Thanks for this post, Christy. And more than that, thanks for keeping on ‘em. And also on us.
Consider this. Much like respect, animosity is earned.
Though it was largely smoke and mirrors (so to speak), Junior had America and the world eating out of his hand after 9/11. All that followed earned, EARNED The Wrath of Blog (in the absence of any shout-out from the population at large).
The Dems in Congress had us eating out of their hands in our collective admiration for their Big Wins. They have earned our disdain. The problem here is that it gets lumped into the braying of the radical righties, which ramps up and amps up and distorts the real reasons for our anger.
Reasons. Plural. Multiple. Legion. Beaucoup. Many and egregious.
Did I mention that Rothenberg pisses me off???
1970cs @ 38
“Hatefest,” huh? Gosh, I thought we were discussing the nature of their idiocy; I didn’t realize we were engaging in a “hatefest.”
It’s only treading water if you can’t walk and chew gum at the same time. Knowing who your opponents are and what they’re trying to peddle is useful — ignoring them doesn’t make them go away either. As long as we’re taking action, too (and we’re taking a hell of a lot of action), telling the world how they’re full of sh*t does no harm.
Waccamaw @ 40
Pretty much like Jerry Jeff Walker said in his song:
“Just getting by on getting by’s my stock in trade…”
dreamcatcher @ 41
Thanks for the link. That was a fantastic clip and article.
broder today reminds me of something paul krugman said a year ago. here’s a bit of it (my transcript so my errors):
Isn’t losing a war a sign that while God in the Conservative mind at least might have appointed G.W Bush as his representive on earth (God knows he wasn’t elected by the people). Bush’s failure at war means that the Lord God has withdrawn his favor. Its time for the Left to go religous!
Waccamaw is it your birthday?
Have a good one!
What, with all that flatbacking, how does Rothenberg sleep at night?
Citizen Jane @ 30
Silly netroots! We are disrupting the giant circle jerk that is the DC consultant/commentariat-lobbyist-politician alliance.
We ARE America, hear us roar!
Faithful reader here — and I agree with everything you’ve said. However, I think what we’re seeing is a pushback at the internet crowd. If they can start calling us “mob rule” and in any way diminish the web influence, then they win. We are now the nightmare of the insider establishment. These articles are a leading edge of an attack. Watch for more…
They’ll also work more towards internet regulation. The first step in counteracting it is understanding what they’re up to.
Citizen Jane @ 30
Spot on.
We are not “far left.”
We are not “the looney left.”
We are not the “anti-war left.”
WE ARE THE DEMOCRATIC WING OF THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY.
And we want our party back. WE are the base. We bought it, we own it, it’s ours, and we’re taking it back from the consultantocracy that milked it and bilked it, from the talking heads that would use it as their whipping boy, from the opposition which demonized it.
The hidden message in Rothenberg’s piece is that he feels personally threatened by US, the real Democratic Party, because his livelihood has been dependent upon a compliant and willing host that was unaware of the many leeches stuck to its backside. His living depends on the “dependability” of the Democratic Party fitting a particular storyline or mold — because if they depart from it, Rothenberg actually has to do some gawddamned work for once in his career.
Heaven forbid that Rothenberg actually has to talk with the rank-and-file members of the Democratic Party, or its state party, or any local branch of the Democratic Party. That would pop the precious moneymaking bubble along with his head.
Christy your “refresher” is needed. But let us not forget that the Bush administration was “selected” by a Supreme Court Judicial coup.
Selected not elected!
cinnamonape @ 44
Ask, and you shall receive.
Kathleen at 58 — I prefer to think of the Bush Administration as an aberration.
Pfiff -
Thankee much…….maybe in two years I’ll be able to celebrate my 4 July birthday with some measure of enjoyment but until then, it just serves as a reminder of the lost years under the reign of shrub. Wrt the voodoo doll, I’m hoping for a one point drop in blood pressure with each pin insertion. *g*
Good morning Christie. Nice post to start off the day, and certainly topical, given that yesterday was the ‘People’s Day’. Broder also thinks that the people have too much to say in what affects them.
What intrigues me about all this is that people are actually now coming out and publically admitting that they think Democracy is a bad idea. I predict that if a massive Democratic sweep becomes more and more inevitable, we will be exposed to a lot more of this stuff, and sensible pundits will be saying in public as well as to themselves, ‘well, you know, that’s an interesting point. Maybe we do have too much democracy for the nation’s good.’ I can’t recall a time when I heard this. I wasn’t around in the 1930s when these ideas were current in Europe. You only have to look at the pressures that led to Vichy France to see where it leads.
lj @ 57
Spot on!
Christy,
I’m in Europe at the moment, and your words have an especially powerful ring when read from over here. You’re a great American.
Thanks…!
selise @ 51
Thanks for this, selise! There are those in the “ruling class” who get it–Bill Gates, Lewis Lapham, Warren Buffet. I mentioned last night seeing the Lapham doc, American Ruling Class. It’s airing on Sundance Channel. Know thine
adversarypopinjay.musicsleuth @ 59
Can you change the frosting color on my brownies to bright red? I shouldn’t have used a purpley-blue.
(I’m kidding, do not try this at home. I may have to bake another batch — this time with red frosting — because the family hoovered them down.)
things come undone @ 52
Agreed, but the trick is to be religious without being dogmatic, bigoted, theocratic, and hateful, not to mention corrupt. By all these measures the religious right has failed, but they don’t give a damn. They just want to assert their point of view over yours.
In other words, they have usurped what they call religion and it has become a pure power play.
This is the problem for the liberal left: how do you promote an agenda for the general good while avoiding the pitfalls I mention above?
hey, Rayne, one addition to your fine list:
WE ARE THE DEMOCRATIC WING OF THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY.
We are the democracy wing of America.
Christy Hardin Smith @ 60
me too. but seeing how so many (dems included) go along or refuse to take the smallest stands against him…. and seeing how much of what he’s done had it’s roots in the clinton administration…. i’m having a harder and harder time rationalizing that view.
Redshift @ 48
I’ll try really hard to unwrap some Juicy Fruit and pace around the room while I type this.
At what point does an individual who takes the time to read the comments on a blog such as this need to be convinced futher that Joe Lieberman, Bill Kristol, or any other neo-con who has his lips wrapped around the Likud exhaust pipe of Middle East genocide are homicidal maniacs.
The point being no it doesn’t do any harm to state the obvious, but at what point is it redundant.
Waccamaw, did your friend’s daughter make it, or is it something you can buy?
“HATEFEST”?
Hmm! Should I get upset at a President who voids the very Constitutional Protections that are considered central to what it is to be an American?
Should I hate that a President sends our nation to war based on lies…and that he commutes the sentence of a man that was central to covering up those lies? To protect his own A**?
Should I hate that the President had the FBI and NSA examine millions of US phone calls and internet messages without search warrants…an act that even his own conservative Attorney General wouldn’t sign off on when approached by Presidential Counsel (now Atty General) Gonzalez!
Should I hate it when the President repeatedly states that he will REFUSE to follow the specified law of the land when he makes “signing statements” that effectively implies he will ignore the law. He can veto the law, and send it back to Congress for revision…instead he asserts an Unconstitutional right to veto PARTS of the law. Should I hate that he does this? I think so!
Should I hate that the President apparently thinks that the act of leaking the identity of a covert CIA agent involved actively in missions abroad regarding WMD smuggling was acceptable because it was “politics as usual”. That he exonerates the one aide convicted of lying and obstructing the investigation?
Yes! There are some things that I do HATE, and that deserve our utter disgust.
Do I revel that Bush is doing these acts? No, I wish we had a better leader…and I HATE that Bush violates his sworn oath practically every day he serves.
David Broder: The Dean of Beltway Old Farts.
The “anti war” crowd is not made up of just Democrats. This is an absolute myth! The “anti-war” crowd (the majority of Americans) is and was (before the invasion) made up of deeply concerned Republicans, Independents and Democrats! Matthews has been making this distinction for quite some time. Better late than not at all!
If Matthews and the rest of the “groupthink” MSM (including NPR) had done their jobs and been out on the streets at the anti-invasion marches and rallies in October of 2002 in D.C. and the winter of 2003 in New York City and across the U.S. They would have seen first hand that middle America (Vets from WWII,Korea,Vietnam,Desert Storm, teachers, lawyers, union workers, students etc) were out protesting against the Bush administrations push for the invasion of Iraq.
Prairie Sunshine @ 68
Yeah, we are the backbone of this nation, from truck drivers to lawyers, from teenagers to elders, huddled masses and all.
Agh, I am sooooo bloody sick of idiots who are not rank-and-file members of the Democratic Party telling us what we are or are not.
lj @ 57
Exactly. And step two–organize, organize, organize…Blogcommunity action plan….
Too bad we couldn’t change the topic of the link that dreamcatcher @ 41 provided and make our own little video. It could be WAR: No body thinks big of you. Like the need to war means that you are overcompensating for something.
A letter to the editor in response to today’s editorial.
Above the law in all but name
Your editorial: Above the law, in all but name provides excellent documentation for pursuing the charges of High Crimes and Misdemeanors against the Bush/Cheney administration. A correct interpretation of this key phrase in our constitution identifies crimes that are uniquely attributable to persons of high station such as the President and the Vice-President.
Commuting the Libby sentence provides further obstruction of justice in any investigation of the outing of a covert CIA officer.
Directing the NSA to conduct warrantless wiretaps on American citizens would only be conducted by the executive.
Using signing statements to ignore countless laws could only be performed by a High Person.
Using the Department of Justice to pursue political foes and protect friends could only be performed by High Persons.
Misleading the Congress, the Press and the People into a pointless, criminal (yes, criminal) war could only be the act of a High Person.
The complete list of this administrations High Crimes and Misdemeanors would occupy pages.
It is time for Congress to put an end to this lawless administration. The time for impeachment is now.
Knut Wicksell @ 62
the view that there was too much democracy was explicitly made in the ’70s by people like samuel huntington. can’t recommend too highly that you read samuel huntington’s essay in “The Crisis of Democracy: Report on the Governability of Democracies to the Trilateral Commission“.
Two things - these guys are scared! If they are to keep their jobs, they might have to start thinking and doing real analysis - something they haven’t had to do since they got the cushy pundit position years ago. For years all they had to do was think of some variation on left and right and spew forth.
Also, Have any of these guys compared us to the Andrew Jackson wing of the party that totally trashed the White House upon inauguration? Sounds like they are getting the Clinton trashing the place thing wound up again.
OfT -
Is it just me, or did it seem that there was extraordinary silence from the WH after the Pution visit with the Bush Boys?
OTH, maybe it would be a bit much to ask GWB to have a presser in which he says “Once again, I looked into his eyes, and saw his soul. Umm, uhh, since his eyes were telling me to fuck off and die, I guess that we’re no longer soul mates. But the lobster was great, and I almost caught a giant perch!”
What’s keeping my spirits up in light of the president’s eraser is Judge Walton’s handling of it, esp. his footnote.
I had my teenage children read the post of it last night to remind them how effective it is to use intelligence and cleverness than uncontrolled ranting in making a point.
lisadawn82 @ 76
now that is just fucking brilliant.
musicsleuth @ 60
oh that’s good, cinnamonape & musicsleuth
Prairie Sunshine @ 75
And that includes being active with the local party wherever possible. There should be a seamless integration between the voice of the Democratic netroots on the internet and the the Democratic grassroots on the the ground. If they cut us off the internet, they can’t cut us out in the real world.
Short-term I’m going to be working on building a phone tree of contacts; for some reason we’ve become too reliant on the internet for communications, almost to the exclusion of phonecalls. While the internet has made us far more fleet than our predecessors, we still need a way to communicate broadly in the event of a local emergency that might cut into that communication system. Find out who your local party leaders are, and how to contact them besides the internet.
Pfiff -
Store-bought. Here’s part of what I put in a comment last nite:
…..the coolest birthday present evaaaaaar………….a gwb Voodoo Doll….. kit contains:
• a 56-page book - introducing you to the fine art of political voodoo, complete with real spells suitable for every political occasion.
• a gwb look-alike voodoo doll - marked so you know exactly where to push the pins for specific spells.
• magic voodoo pins - to activate the spells and goose bush into (or out of) action.
Assume it’s available from: www.runningpress.com. $12.95 U.S.
This is the comment I just left on Broder:
We are NOT the enablers and politicians you break bread with every night at your dinner parties. We are individuals who get up each day and EARN our money. We don’t inherit our money; we only inherit the values which you once claimed were your values as well.
Where and when did you lose those values Mr Broder? Ask yourself, where and when did you lose your values?
So we should all just lie back, take what we get and think of England, and how dare we expect more.
this is what my mother told me to do on my wedding night… I kid! I don’t have a mother…
Lieberman is a one-man, whining-voiced, finger-wagging Trojan Horse for the GOP.
on the flipside, they lost Bloomberg…
Kathleen @ 73
I think being included in the “anti-war crowd” is very off-putting for many. I’ve seen it in my community. Funny how peace can seem radical, but there you have it. What’s called for is to engage the Repubs and Independents and bashful Dems such that we have a cohesive “crowd” rather that disparate onesies and twosies. Because even though plus-or-minus 70 percent oppose the war, many do not see themselves as part of a whole. And I lay that squarely at the feet of Dem leadership.
Digby called it the “punditocrisy” a couple of weeks ago, and I just fell in love with the new spelling. To me it sums it all up.
The Diane Rehm show focused on the 2008 Election this morning at 10. I am with Gore on this one… too much time being spent by the MSM on this topic!
http://wamu.org/programs/dr/
dakine01 @ 86
Most excellent. If Broder had a clue about us, who we really are, he’d throw in the towel and retire right now.
I r ur nayber, cutting teh grass…
dreamcatcher @ 67
It was the churches who led the call to end slavery because they thought that it was imoral despite what the bible said about having slaves. We should model our religous movment on a model that has already worked. I should research church involvment in the abolishinist movement anybody got any book suggestions?
I think the Firedoglake Bloggers and other independent bloggers should feel proud of the attention and the attacks that they are receiving. A sure sign that the corporate controlled beltway crowd are feeling threatened in regard to their integrity and independence being seriously questioned by the people!
dakine—
Righteous smackdown!
dakine01 @ 87
good one! I’m going over to see what else is being said.