zed?

TRex!!

I’m third, and I’m here.

Love it! I was walking around all day saying yes, we’ll be doing some knocking out all right.

Woohoo! Excellent rallying cry, TRex.

That infernal spinning comment wheel tipped me off!!!

I love that bunny picture! ICHC is on my long list of blogs to check everyday.

And yes, it’s way past time to ATTACK!! ATTACK!! ATTACK!!

Fighting back feels good.

TRex, I bet you have a lot of fun writing these.

haha! Great choice Trex. Still one of the coolest songs when i was fairly young.

We can and we WILL knock ‘em out. One way or another!

Write On, Mary,
Pear
Pear Juice
Pear Juice Dripping.
Sweet!

Love the attack bunny!

I love it when you get black

DrDick @ 10

Love the attack bunny!

Ever read a series of children’s books called BUNNICULA? Great fun. Used to read them to my son when he was 7 or 8.

Hi all, missed the first half of Late Nite, so I’m here for a bit of the second half.

TRex, I lurked my way all the way through the Late Nite thread but wanted to surface here to tell you what I think an outstanding piece of writing it was. A grim state of affairs, but I think with your Late Late Nite piece you have found the perfect antidote.

LoudounLib @ 14

Hi all, missed the first half of Late Nite, so I’m here for a bit of the second half.

Welcome LL

Bunny!!! run away.

All bunny, all the time.

thanks Tex, how’s it going? Are you all finally drying out?

Hey, LL.

bunny “strange”, or bunny “ha ha”?

TexB @ 13

DrDick @ 10

Love the attack bunny!

Ever read a series of children’s books called BUNNICULA? Great fun. Used to read them to my son when he was 7 or 8.

OMG i had The Celery Stalks At Midnight in the 80s. *grins* I didnt’ track down the earlier book till i was in my 20s but those are great books. I love the POV from the housepets.

EPU’d

The more I look at this

18 USC 2441

I think I want a custom made T-shirt with that on it.

aliasofwestgate @ 22

TexB @ 13

Ever read a series of children’s books called BUNNICULA? Great fun. Used to read them to my son when he was 7 or 8.

OMG i had The Celery Stalks At Midnight in the 80s. *grins* I didnt’ track down the earlier book till i was in my 20s but those are great books. I love the POV from the housepets.

Those are the ones!

TexB @ 13

DrDick @ 10

Love the attack bunny!

Ever read a series of children’s books called BUNNICULA? Great fun. Used to read them to my son when he was 7 or 8.

No, I do not think I have seen those. Then again, my oldest grandson is about your son’s age. Children’s books have gotten a lot edgier in many ways since my son was a child (let alone when I was).

punaise @ 21

bunny “strange”, or bunny “ha ha”?

bunny “strange ha-ha!”

neurophius @ 15

TRex, I lurked my way all the way through the Late Nite thread but wanted to surface here to tell you what I think an outstanding piece of writing it was. A grim state of affairs, but I think with your Late Late Nite piece you have found the perfect antidote.

The attack bunny who tortures for freedom? Oh, wait – it must be something else.

LL we’re still soaking wet. I posted a whole bunch of Texas weather stories to my facebook profile. Turns out this is the worst flooding in 50 years. MIGHT end Sunday or Monday.

attack bunny with little pointy teeth!!

Mocha Dem @ 12

I love it when you get black

Mama, we’re all pink on the inside.

And now in a Bunny frenzy he eyes all rodents with as questionable characters. He was from the TSA.

hey anybody else think that Hil and Bill helped the tools inthe WH change teh subject?

Eureka Springs @ 23

EPU’d

The more I look at this

18 USC 2441

I think I want a custom made T-shirt with that on it.

Eureka, what is that?

TexB,

They’re great books. *grins* I was a voracious reader as a kidlet and i still am one. I finally got around to picking up Roger Zelzany’s Lord of Light. I’ve a thing for mythology, scifi, and politics in my bookishness nowadays. It’s either that or satire lately. My irrational fangirlishness for Terry Pratchett is legendary among my friends.

But those books were one of many great little fantasy series i picked up while growing up.

Don’t push me, cuz I’m close to the edge
I’m tryin’ not to lose my head …

DrDick @ 26

punaise @ 21

bunny “strange”, or bunny “ha ha”?

bunny “strange ha-ha!”

splitting hares?

Eureka Springs @ 23

EPU’d

The more I look at this

18 USC 2441

I think I want a custom made T-shirt with that on it.

What does it mean?

Tex I’ll check out those stories tomorrow (or later today), but in the meantime I definitely sympathize! We can’t hardly buy a drop of rain around here, much like many places here in the East. We’d gladly take some of that off of your hands.

Lindy @ 33

Eureka Springs @ 23

EPU’d

The more I look at this

18 USC 2441

I think I want a custom made T-shirt with that on it.

Eureka, what is that?

War crimes criminal code (I think) H/T to Steve

thats he deals with as questionable characters, sorry

Eureka Springs @ 39

Lindy @ 33

Eureka, what is that?

War crimes criminal code (I think)

Yep. I Googled it earlier.

Dr. Dick, children’s books don’t come much edgier than Grimm’s Fairy Tales. Think Hansel and Gretel!

Hendrik Hertzberg “goes yard” with his New Yorker op-ed on Cheney:

…for the past six years, Dick Cheney, the occupant of what John Adams called “the most insignificant office that ever the invention of man contrived,” has been the most influential public official in the country, not necessarily excluding President Bush, and his influence has been entirely malign. He is pathologically (but purposefully) secretive; treacherous toward colleagues; coldly manipulative of the callow, lazy, and ignorant President he serves; contemptuous of public opinion; and dismissive not only of international law (a fairly standard attitude for conservatives of his stripe) but also of the very idea that the Constitution and laws of the United States, including laws signed by his nominal superior, can be construed to limit the power of the executive to take any action that can plausibly be classified as part of an endless, endlessly expandable “war on terror.”
…

argosfalcon @ 40

thats he deals with as questionable characters, sorry

argo, if you quote the comment you are referring to, or type the name and number, it would help know what you are referring to :)

Alicia, facebook mail.

Loo Hoo. @ 42

Dr. Dick, children’s books don’t come much edgier than Grimm’s Fairy Tales. Think Hansel and Gretel!

That is true, but in my youth we only got the Disneyfied, sanitized versions. Interesting that we think of that as a children’s book, since it was actually a scholarly compilation of German folk tales.

Hey, I also want to point something out to our alienated friends who may be reading from outside the US.

Hey, we’d been trying to talk to deaf people in the WH and Congress! And when they finally hear us, they say they won’t be “intimidated” by their constituency!!! We’re doing every kind of activism we can within the system, but the system is broke.

I believe our government does deserve your rage and disdain, it has certainly earned ours

punaise @ 43

Hendrik Hertzberg “goes yard” with his New Yorker op-ed on Cheney:

…for the past six years, Dick Cheney, the occupant of what John Adams called “the most insignificant office that ever the invention of man contrived,” has been the most influential public official in the country, not necessarily excluding President Bush, and his influence has been entirely malign. He is pathologically (but purposefully) secretive; treacherous toward colleagues; coldly manipulative of the callow, lazy, and ignorant President he serves; contemptuous of public opinion; and dismissive not only of international law (a fairly standard attitude for conservatives of his stripe) but also of the very idea that the Constitution and laws of the United States, including laws signed by his nominal superior, can be construed to limit the power of the executive to take any action that can plausibly be classified as part of an endless, endlessly expandable “war on terror.”
…

Malign, treacherous, manipulative, contemptuous, dismissive: yep, that’s Darth alright

Eureka Springs @ 36

splitting hares?

Bunny-hana, sushi chef to thee and me

Loo Hoo. @ 42

Dr. Dick, children’s books don’t come much edgier than Grimm’s Fairy Tales. Think Hansel and Gretel!

Sleeping Beauty’s original ending wasn’t quite so PC either if i remember correctly. I know i’ve got a book of Grimm’s around my parents house somewhere. Though i think it’s being read to my niece since i’m not there. ^_^ Which makes me glad, since i LIKE the original versions. The bad ones were appropriately punished. In a child’s mind that’s all that matters. Bloodless endings left me going ‘huh?’ since i’d actually READ the originals and not just seen the Disney ones. If you ever read Terry Pratchett’s Hogfather, you’ll understand a bit more of where i come from. He explains it perfectly in that one.

(evil bookworm child, now grown up)

punaise @ 43

Hendrik Hertzberg “goes yard” with his New Yorker op-ed on Cheney:

…for the past six years, Dick Cheney, the occupant of what John Adams called “the most insignificant office that ever the invention of man contrived,” has been the most influential public official in the country, not necessarily excluding President Bush, and his influence has been entirely malign. He is pathologically (but purposefully) secretive; treacherous toward colleagues; coldly manipulative of the callow, lazy, and ignorant President he serves; contemptuous of public opinion; and dismissive not only of international law (a fairly standard attitude for conservatives of his stripe) but also of the very idea that the Constitution and laws of the United States, including laws signed by his nominal superior, can be construed to limit the power of the executive to take any action that can plausibly be classified as part of an endless, endlessly expandable “war on terror.”
…

Does that expand the the office beyond it’s design? If not how we contract it to a bit more manageable office? Or is this dog lose forever?

Well, the temps have dropped down into the 70s, so I think I will go to bed. Take care and enjoy the snark.

When I used to teach 1st & 2nd grades, we all wrote apology letters from Goldilocks to the three bears. Had her commit to what she would do to make things right again. Just cause the kids were so uncomfortable with her getting away with it.

DrDick @ 52

Well, the temps have dropped down into the 70s, so I think I will go to bed. Take care and enjoy the snark.

Sleep well DrD.

do-si-do @ 29

attack bunny with little pointy teeth!!

The Rabbit of Caebannog! Bring out the Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch!

From the Book of Armaments, chapter two:

And the Lord spake, saying, “First shalt thou take out the Holy Pin, then shalt thou count to three, no more, no less. Three shall be the number thou shalt count, and the number of the counting shall be three. Four shalt thou not count, neither count thou two, excepting that thou then proceed to three. Five is right out. Once the number three, being the third number, be reached, then lobbest thou thy Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch towards thy foe, who being naughty in my sight, shall snuff it.

Good night DrD

Good night, DrDick.
Cooling down here also, I think I’m right behind ya.

punaise @ 49

Eureka Springs @ 36

splitting hares?

Bunny-hana, sushi chef to thee and me

I’m still laughing…

Tex, I just read my FB mail — wow!

Loo Hoo. @ 42

Dr. Dick, children’s books don’t come much edgier than Grimm’s Fairy Tales. Think Hansel and Gretel!

Or, in keeping with the German theme of the last thread, Struwwelpeter or Max und Moritz.

Sleep well demi.

g’night demi

splitting hares?

Bunny-hana, sushi chef to thee and me

Be bery bery kwiet, I’m huntin wabbit.

Peterr @ 56

do-si-do @ 29

attack bunny with little pointy teeth!!

The Rabbit of Caebannog! Bring out the Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch!

From the Book of Armaments, chapter two:

And the Lord spake, saying, “First shalt thou take out the Holy Pin, then shalt thou count to three, no more, no less. Three shall be the number thou shalt count, and the number of the counting shall be three. Four shalt thou not count, neither count thou two, excepting that thou then proceed to three. Five is right out. Once the number three, being the third number, be reached, then lobbest thou thy Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch towards thy foe, who being naughty in my sight, shall snuff it.

*gigglesnorts* YAY Monty Python! XD

It’s just a harmless little bunny, innit?

Suzanne @ 63

splitting hares?

Bunny-hana, sushi chef to thee and me

Be bery bery kwiet, I’m huntin wabbit.

heh-heh-heh-heh-heh

TexB @ 61

Sleep well demi.

See ya later TexB…I’ll just take this one big old zucchini and…just kidding. Mary’s Pear Poem got me going…just a little. :)

TRex – Send that song to Tom Waits..)

“hare today, Guantanamo”

(if Cheney gets his hands on the critter)

(waving goodnite to all the sleepy pups)

Nite..Loudonlib, which stands for what? I’ve always wondered, but never asked.

Suzanne @ 70

(waving goodnite to all the sleepy pups)

yes: group wave…

funny you should mention it…I have my bunny slippers on tonight

punaise @ 72

Suzanne @ 70

(waving goodnite to all the sleepy pups)

yes: group wave…

Wave

demi, Loudoun is the county in VA where I live, and “lib” for librul ;-)

LoudounLib @ 66

Suzanne @ 63

splitting hares?

Bunny-hana, sushi chef to thee and me

Be bery bery kwiet, I’m huntin wabbit.

heh-heh-heh-heh-heh

But isn’t it duck season?

Ducking’s what Bush did on the Fourth, giving his big holiday speech to a handpicked crowd of military types who would not boo or protest.

punaise @ 69

“hare today, Guantanamo”

(if Cheney gets his hands on the critter)

bowing deeply before the pun king

Peterr @ 76

But isn’t it duck season?

Ducking’s what Bush did on the Fourth, giving his big holiday speech to a handpicked crowd of military types who would not boo or protest.

He always props himself up with a friendly crowd like that to make him feel safe…

here comes Peterr Bloggin’ Tail, hoppin’ down the the funny trail

(sorry, couldn’t resist)

demi @ 67

TexB @ 61

Sleep well demi.

See ya later TexB…I’ll just take this one big old zucchini and…just kidding. Mary’s Pear Poem got me going…just a little. :)

Hopping off to bed ?!! *g*

G’nite demi !

punaise @ 79

here comes Peterr Bloggin’ Tail, hoppin’ down the the funny trail

(sorry, couldn’t resist)

Usually I groan. That one got me smiling.

Some bunny loves you.

me too, Tex ;-)

punaise @ 79

here comes Peterr Bloggin’ Tail, hoppin’ down the the funny trail

(sorry, couldn’t resist)

Groan.

You’re in fine fettle tonight, I see.

sorry was just using the quote this thingy. Will be better next time, now I feel like a silly bunny.

punaise @ 79

here comes Peterr Bloggin’ Tail, hoppin’ down the the funny trail

(sorry, couldn’t resist)

As it happens, my little one just finished reading one of Beatrix Potter’s other stories to me, right before he went to bed. Wasn’t all that long ago that I did the reading . . . wow.

Gnite, LL et al.. My turn to hit the, um, tempur-pedic.

punaise @ 79

here comes Peterr Bloggin’ Tail, hoppin’ down the the funny trail

(sorry, couldn’t resist)

I anticipated that swab.

Night Demi and Dr. D.

g’night MP

Peterr @ 86

punaise @ 79

here comes Peterr Bloggin’ Tail, hoppin’ down the the funny trail

(sorry, couldn’t resist)

As it happens, my little one just finished reading one of Beatrix Potter’s other stories to me, right before he went to bed. Wasn’t all that long ago that I did the reading . . . wow.

you’re a good sport – not the first time I’ve pulled that one on you…

Toodles to yoodles, Loo Hoo,
and Petro! Have a goodun..eh?

TRex, OK what music did you have in your head when you wrote the lyrics above?

Ahh to hearth and home, to a cool or warm bed as to your taste. What’s this a bunny ohh nooo.

Punaise, that New Yorker article is great.

punaise @ 91

Peterr @ 86

As it happens, my little one just finished reading one of Beatrix Potter’s other stories to me, right before he went to bed. Wasn’t all that long ago that I did the reading . . . wow.

you’re a good sport – not the first time I’ve pulled that one on you…

… and probably not the last time either.

;)

Um, I don’t know the artist in the link, lil help here?

Eureka Springs @ 93

TRex, OK what music did you have in your head when you wrote the lyrics above?

Dude, those aren’t my lyrics. They’re LL Cool J’s. Did you watch the video?

Eureka Springs @ 93

TRex, OK what music did you have in your head when you wrote the lyrics above?

umm, it’s not by TRex – check out the youTube (LL Cool J)

Mutant Poodle @ 87

Gnite, LL et al.. My turn to hit the, um, tempur-pedic.

‘nite MP !

Eureka Springs @ 23

EPU’d

The more I look at this

18 USC 2441

I think I want a custom made T-shirt with that on it.

I’m told that the Military Commissions Act of 2006 watered down the War Crimes Act 18 USC 2441. I don’t claim to know exactly how. Does anyone have good information on that?

argosfalcon @ 51

punaise @ 43

Hendrik Hertzberg “goes yard” with his New Yorker op-ed on Cheney:

Does that expand the the office beyond it’s design? If not how we contract it to a bit more manageable office? Or is this dog lose forever?

looseheadprop wrote this earlier today

There is a strong case to be made that by cummuting Libby’s sentence Bush has abused the pardon power in a way which the framers saw as grounds for suspending the president from office while conducting the impeachment investigation

how do you like them apples? Like the firing of the US Attorneys, the President can do this for nay reason or no reason EXCEPT a reason that in and of itself is illegal.

So, if the president fired a USA becasue that person refused to bring indictments unsupported by evidence–that would be an abuse of his power to fire.

If the president commuted Scooter’s sentence to take away any pressure on Scooter to “flip” and cease his conitnuing obstruction of justice (remember folks, it ain’t just perjury), then the very use fo the pardon power in this manner would itself be a form of obstruction of justice and would constitute an “abuse” rather than a “use” of the pardon power (from which, by common law, the power to commute is derived)

Floodwaters across the state have severely damaged or destroyed 1,000 homes, and that number is likely to rise, state officials said Thursday.

Storms have pounded the state since May 23, causing widespread rainfall and flooding that now has caused at least 13 deaths over the past 2 1/2 weeks.

The cost of property damage has not yet been assessed, said Jack Colley, chief of the state’s Division of Emergency Management. Colley said all the state’s major river basins are at flood stage, the first time that’s happened since 1957.

With more rain expected through much of the state Thursday and Friday, emergency officials were braced for even more damage. Colley said the state has already mobilized its largest ever flood response efforts of search and rescue teams and aid for flood damaged areas.

Assistance has come from government agencies helping in search and rescue and cleanup operations, as well as private charities such as the American Red Cross and Salvation Army operating shelters and feeding centers.

“Unprecedented,” Colley said at a news conference. “Mostly this time of year we’re fighting wild fires … The problem with this is, the water won’t go away.”

The impacted area covers 49 counties and 48,000 square miles from North Texas to the Rio Grande Valley, a section roughly the size of the state of Mississippi.

And with the National Weather Service expecting much of the area to get 1 to 3 inches of rain Thursday — with heavier localized storms — even the slightest amount could cause flash flooding where rivers, lakes and reservoirs are already full to the brim. Rainfall totals for the 24-hour period ending at 6 p.m. CDT Thursday included 5 inches at Palacios, 2.17 at Houston’s Hobby Airport, 1.88 at Rockport, 1.82 at Harlingen, 1.19 at Victoria, 1.15 at Huntsville and 1.14 at Longview.

Areas of concern included the Brazos, Sabine and Trinity rivers and Nueces River near Corpus Christi, Colley said.

The National Weather Service forecast rainfall totals of 1 to 3 inches again on Friday, with some isolated heavier amounts.

Joel Veeneman, a meteorologist with the National Weather Service, said the Frio, Guadalupe and Nueces rivers had passed flood stage and could stay there for the next two to three days.

Most areas in South Texas have seen more than a foot of rain since Monday, he said. The National Weather Service issued flash flood warnings for 20 counties across East and North Central Texas on Thursday.

“I urge all Texans to heed the warnings of their local leaders and take all possible precautions to stay out of dangerous situations as this severe weather continues,” Gov. Rick Perry said.

Concerns eased Thursday that a full Lake Texoma along the Oklahoma-Texas line would send floodwaters into the Red River.

Ross Adkins, a spokesman for the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers, said water could spill over the Denison Dam, but no major damage to homes was anticipated. The last major flood was nearly 5 feet over the spillway in 1990. This year’s level is expected to crest at 1 foot over the spillway.

Still, residents, particularly those living in farm areas near the river that forms the border between the two states, were warned to take precautions.

“(We’re) warning residents along the Red River to move all livestock, equipment and other necessary belongings to higher ground,” Bryan County, Okla., Emergency Management Director James Dalton said. “We are also urging residents to have an initial evacuation plan, should conditions threaten homes in the area.”

The latest death from the storms in Texas occurred early Thursday morning near Clifton in Bosque County. Leslie Featherston, 37, of Whitney, died when the car she was driving hydroplaned, collided with a curb and plunged into a creek, said Kathy Smith, spokeswoman for the Texas Department of Public Safety.

(more)

Eureka Springs @ 93

TRex, OK what music did you have in your head when you wrote the lyrics above?

It was the lyrics of the song on the YouTube, ES.

Sleep well MP

TRex @ 97

Eureka Springs @ 93

TRex, OK what music did you have in your head when you wrote the lyrics above?

Dude, those aren’t my lyrics. They’re LL Cool J’s. Did you watch the video?

Sorry no, Have another CD playing atm.

whatcha playing, ES?

Here’s the link for the really long news story I posted in 102.

At least 1,000 homes destroyed by floods

Petrocelli @ 80

demi @ 67

See ya later TexB…I’ll just take this one big old zucchini and…just kidding. Mary’s Pear Poem got me going…just a little. :)

Hopping off to bed ?!! *g*

G’nite demi !

Petro, Dan was saying in the last thread, Brian’s approval rating sank to 8%, my question is why didn’t parliament hold a ‘no confidence’ vote a lot sooner? *g*

Lindy @ 33

Eureka Springs @ 23

EPU’d

The more I look at this

18 USC 2441

I think I want a custom made T-shirt with that on it.

Eureka, what is that?

You asked and here is the answer:

TITLE 18 > PART I > CHAPTER 118 > § 2441

§ 2441. War crimes

(a) Offense.— Whoever, whether inside or outside the United States, commits a war crime, in any of the circumstances described in subsection (b), shall be fined under this title or imprisoned for life or any term of years, or both, and if death results to the victim, shall also be subject to the penalty of death.
(b) Circumstances.— The circumstances referred to in subsection (a) are that the person committing such war crime or the victim of such war crime is a member of the Armed Forces of the United States or a national of the United States (as defined in section 101 of the Immigration and Nationality Act).
(c) Definition.— As used in this section the term “war crime” means any conduct—
(1) defined as a grave breach in any of the international conventions signed at Geneva 12 August 1949, or any protocol to such convention to which the United States is a party;
(2) prohibited by Article 23, 25, 27, or 28 of the Annex to the Hague Convention IV, Respecting the Laws and Customs of War on Land, signed 18 October 1907;
(3) which constitutes a violation of common Article 3 of the international conventions signed at Geneva, 12 August 1949, or any protocol to such convention to which the United States is a party and which deals with non-international armed conflict; or
(4) of a person who, in relation to an armed conflict and contrary to the provisions of the Protocol on Prohibitions or Restrictions on the Use of Mines, Booby-Traps and Other Devices as amended at Geneva on 3 May 1996 (Protocol II as amended on 3 May 1996), when the United States is a party to such Protocol, willfully kills or causes serious injury to civilians.

They think they gave themselves a retroactive escape the death penalty card..let’s see what the courts say after 01/20/09.

Got a link for that flood update, TexB?

well the USC might be United State Code tile 18 section 2441. if its a jag code unknown.

Peterr @ 110

Got a link for that flood update, TexB?

http://www.chron.com/disp/stor…..46796.html

Nebbah mine . . . LL Cool J . . . interesting weave of events and musics that LONG precede him.

Almost like he did his homework on it.

Not a rap fan, but, but this is top shelf effort, IMH WhiteBreadO . . . most likely never would of heard it, either, so thanks TRex . . .

LoudounLib @ 106

whatcha playing, ES?

Nightmares On Wax – Mind Elevation very smooth funky grooves.

Speaking of tail, Doolittle is the latest Repug to turn tail and run. He just declared he’s with Pete “Sneaky Pete” Domenici in wanting Bush to pull out of Iraq.

Well none of that will fit on a t-shirt as quoted above, relevant passage please, or not.

hadn’t heard of that one, ES, but the title alone sounds perfect for a late night

Can we beg LL Cool J to … um … box some sense into Harry Reid ?!!

… pretty please ?!!

howieklein @ 115

Speaking of tail, Doolittle is the latest Repug to turn tail and run. He just declared he’s with Pete “Sneaky Pete” Domenici in wanting Bush to pull out of Iraq.

hey, Howie…

as Josh Marshall put it:

The indictment can’t be far off: Doolittle wants US troops out of combat in Iraq.

howieklein @ 115

Speaking of tail, Doolittle is the latest Repug to turn tail and run. He just declared he’s with Pete “Sneaky Pete” Domenici in wanting Bush to pull out of Iraq.

I guess he just figured out that he’s not close enough to Bush to get a Libby exemption for his soon-to-be-indicted, Abramoff-related crimes, so what does he have to lose by opposing Bush on Iraq.

Eureka Springs @ 114

Nightmares On Wax – Mind Elevation very smooth funky grooves.

sounds intriguing

howieklein @ 115

Speaking of tail, Doolittle is the latest Repug to turn tail and run. He just declared he’s with Pete “Sneaky Pete” Domenici in wanting Bush to pull out of Iraq.

Like burgers.

You don’t think he thinks Hillary will pardon him if he starts an anti-occupation stampede in the House?

So we can call 18 USC 2441 a war crime, and pinnate the tail on the GOP?

(waving howdy to howie – try typing that three times fast)

Petrocelli @ 118

Can we beg LL Cool J to … um … box some sense into Harry Reid ?!!

… pretty please ?!!

Petro, look at 108!

CTuttle @ 108

Petrocelli @ 80

Hopping off to bed ?!! *g*

G’nite demi !

Petro, Dan was saying in the last thread, Brian’s approval rating sank to 8%, my question is why didn’t parliament hold a ‘no confidence’ vote a lot sooner? *g*

What is even worse is Mulrooney helped Harper to get where he is …

Howie, how do things look for taking Doolittle’s seat next year with a nice Blue America candidate?

punaise @ 120

Eureka Springs @ 114

Nightmares On Wax – Mind Elevation very smooth funky grooves.

sounds intriguing

Smokers Delight is my favorite CD by Nightmares On Wax.. no lyrics on either album (or very little).. just suave groove.

howieklein @ 123

You don’t think he thinks Hillary will pardon him if he starts an anti-occupation stampede in the House?

No — he’s counting on Cheney to pardon him, once Bush is out of the way.

Peterr @ 128

Howie, how do things look for taking Doolittle’s seat next year with a nice Blue America candidate?

Know anything yet about Issa’s challenger, CA-49?

Hey, Howie! Welcome to Late Late Nite!

howieklein @ 123

You don’t think he thinks Hillary will pardon him if he starts an anti-occupation stampede in the House?

Why would she want to even consider that notion!!!

howieklein @ 115

Speaking of tail, Doolittle is the latest Repug to turn tail and run. He just declared he’s with Pete “Sneaky Pete” Domenici in wanting Bush to pull out of Iraq.

Will Julie sell him down the river to save her skin? I wonder if Doolittle will have to wear prison underware?

Anyone in SoCal just feel a little shake?

Well no parliament, no vote of no confidence no?

ES – I’ll check it out

CTuttle @ 127

Petrocelli @ 118

Can we beg LL Cool J to … um … box some sense into Harry Reid ?!!

… pretty please ?!!

Petro, look at 108!

Dude … I read your thought and posted simultaneously my reply !!! *g*

Peterr @ 128

Howie, how do things look for taking Doolittle’s seat next year with a nice Blue America candidate?

Depends. If Doolittle runs again, which is unlikely, Charlie Brown will take 60% of the vote. If Doolittle is in priosn (most likely) or just decides not to run, it will be a tough race. But Charlie has great name recognition and all the folks up there have gotten to know him and have noticed that neither he nor Jan, his wife, has horns and a tail even though they’re Democrats. I think he can win. Doolittle only got 49% last year– in one of the reddest districts in the state.

burnspbesq @ 135

Anyone in SoCal just feel a little shake?

I didn’t, and my dogs made no fuss.

burnspbesq @ 136

Anyone in SoCal just feel a little shake?

Nothing on the CalQuake map – but it will take up to five minutes for the quake to be posted.

Or no Senate and House no (pick a course).

TRex @ 132

Hey, Howie! Welcome to Late Late Nite!

Thanks; I feel welcome

Alright, gang. I’m headed for bed.

Good night, everybody!

its just the gov. s hummer parking

sweet dreams TRex

same here Trex

buenos nachos, Trex

What’s that psychological disease called that Lieberman has? He likes being spanked and he wears diapers. I just wrote about him but I couldn’t remember the name of the disease. Anyone know?

g’nite TRex have a fun weekend

sorry for the small rrr

howieklein @ 139

Peterr @ 128

Howie, how do things look for taking Doolittle’s seat next year with a nice Blue America candidate?

Depends. If Doolittle runs again, which is unlikely, Charlie Brown will take 60% of the vote. If Doolittle is in priosn (most likely) or just decides not to run, it will be a tough race. But Charlie has great name recognition and all the folks up there have gotten to know him and have noticed that neither he nor Jan, his wife, has horns and a tail even though they’re Democrats. I think he can win. Doolittle only got 49% last year– in one of the reddest districts in the state.

That’s about what I figured. I was wondering if there were any thoughts floating around about just who the GOP might put up in Doolittle’s place, and what impact that specific person would have on things. Haven’t heard any names floated yet, but the race is young.

howieklein @ 151

What’s that psychological disease called that Lieberman has? He likes being spanked and he wears diapers. I just wrote about him but I couldn’t remember the name of the disease. Anyone know?

Howie, that is the best blogwhore I’ve seen in many months :)

Suzanne @ 141

burnspbesq @ 136

Anyone in SoCal just feel a little shake?

Nothing on the CalQuake map – but it will take up to five minutes for the quake to be posted.

Nothing on the USGS Pasadena site. Must be a Fig Newton of my imagination.

howieklein @ 150

What’s that psychological disease called that Lieberman has? He likes being spanked and he wears diapers. I just wrote about him but I couldn’t remember the name of the disease. Anyone know?

punaise…this one’s for you ;-)

howieklein @ 150

What’s that psychological disease called that Lieberman has? He likes being spanked and he wears diapers. I just wrote about him but I couldn’t remember the name of the disease. Anyone know?

Is it BeingJohnMcCain Syndrome ?!! *g*

Suzanne @ 153

Howie, that is the best blogwhore I’ve seen in many months :)

Thanks. Here’s the photo and I really do want to know the name of the psychological disorder

Nite, TRex!!

howieklein @ 150

What’s that psychological disease called that Lieberman has? He likes being spanked and he wears diapers. I just wrote about him but I couldn’t remember the name of the disease. Anyone know?

I think DrDick is the FDL shrink

howieklein @ 116

Speaking of tail, Doolittle is the latest Repug to turn tail and run. He just declared he’s with Pete “Sneaky Pete” Domenici in wanting Bush to pull out of Iraq.

As a Sacto resident, I find him to be SO utterly appaling, but, he’s not in my district.

He’s SOOOO dead meat and in the Oversight Sights. Scum of the earth user and crook. Liar. Professed Christian imitator.

His considered opinion on ANY THING! Should immediately be rejected due to who he is.

We don’t NEED his support, it’s the kind that rots us all out from the inside like Our Pal Joey.

Harumph.

Suzanne @ 153

howieklein @ 151

What’s that psychological disease called that Lieberman has? He likes being spanked and he wears diapers. I just wrote about him but I couldn’t remember the name of the disease. Anyone know?

Howie, that is the best blogwhore I’ve seen in many months :)

Style, panache, and subtlety — that’s Howie.

omg howie, that pic is brilliant! 707!

Great pic Howie. Love the tattoo.

Peterr @ 152

That’s about what I figured. I was wondering if there were any thoughts floating around about just who the GOP might put up in Doolittle’s place, and what impact that specific person would have on things. Haven’t heard any names floated yet, but the race is young.

Yeah, there are a bunch of wingnuts in already or threatening. One is a Hate Talk Radio host and there’s a state legislator and some ex-Doolittle employee (although I think most of his ex-employees are either cooperating with the FBI or under investigation).

Twenty-five current Republican Senators voted guilty on both articles of impeachment against Bill Clinton in 1999. Since those articles were related to perjury on whether he had received a BJ from Monica…I’d like them to explain IF they support Dubya’s commutation of Libby for PERJURY and OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE for lying about the fact that he told reporters about covert CIA officer Valerie Plames employment with the CIA Counter-Proliferation Division?

If they don’t it would seem that they would support a Bill of CENSURE against Bush for essentially saying that outing a covert agent is really no big deal.

Wayne Allard (R-CO) Robert Bennett (R-UT) Kit Bond (R-MO)
Sam Brownback (R-KS) * also running for President
Jim Bunning (R-KY) Thad Cochran (R-MS)
Larry Craig (R-ID) Mike Crapo (R-ID) Pete Domenici (R-NM)
Mike Enzi (R-WY) Chuck Grassley (R-IA) Judd Gregg (R-NH)
Chuck Hagel (R-NE) ~ fatuous hero to the anti-Iraq War libertarians
Orrin Hatch (R-UT) Kay Bailey Hutchison (R-TX) Jim Inhofe (R-OK)
Jon Kyl (R-AZ) Trent Lott (R-MS) Dick Lugar (R-IN)
John McCain (R-AZ) Mitch McConnell (R-KY) Pat Roberts (R-KS)
Jeff Sessions (R-AL) Gordon Smith (R-OR) George Voinovich (R-OH)

I good number of these folks are running for re-election in 2008 and should be compelled to go on the record explaining why Exposing a covert CIA agent and her WMD Counter-Proliferation Ops (which we KNOW were impacted by Plames public exposure) was not more important than the consensual sex acts of Bill with regard to events that MIGHT have occurred a dozen years earlier (no charges were actually filed…and there isn’t even a police report on the incident).

No underlying crime, MY A$$! They voted for conviction of impeachment when there was no Underlying Crime proven!

So the judge,Prosecutor, jury and Appelate Courts are clearly correct in te Libby sentencing. libby obstructed investigation into the facts of a POTENTIAL CRIME and whether a crime had occurred (i.e. whether there was intent and conspiracy).

In all of Bush’s term of office…where he has had some 8000 requests for pardons or clemency for federal crimes he has offered up only THREE commutations of sentence. The other two occurred when most of the sentence had already been fulfilled.

THAT’s how ODD Bush’s pardon of Libby ACTUALLY IS! It’s essentially unique…quite extraordinary from a man who clearly sees very few reasons to grant mercy to others, whatever the circumstances.

Steve @ 110

Lindy @ 33

Eureka, what is that?

You asked and here is the answer:

TITLE 18 > PART I > CHAPTER 118 > § 2441

§ 2441. War crimes

(a) Offense.— Whoever, whether inside or outside the United States, commits a war crime, in any of the circumstances described in subsection (b), shall be fined under this title or imprisoned for life or any term of years, or both, and if death results to the victim, shall also be subject to the penalty of death.
(b) Circumstances.— The circumstances referred to in subsection (a) are that the person committing such war crime or the victim of such war crime is a member of the Armed Forces of the United States or a national of the United States (as defined in section 101 of the Immigration and Nationality Act).
(c) Definition.— As used in this section the term “war crime” means any conduct—
(1) defined as a grave breach in any of the international conventions signed at Geneva 12 August 1949, or any protocol to such convention to which the United States is a party;
(2) prohibited by Article 23, 25, 27, or 28 of the Annex to the Hague Convention IV, Respecting the Laws and Customs of War on Land, signed 18 October 1907;
(3) which constitutes a violation of common Article 3 of the international conventions signed at Geneva, 12 August 1949, or any protocol to such convention to which the United States is a party and which deals with non-international armed conflict; or
(4) of a person who, in relation to an armed conflict and contrary to the provisions of the Protocol on Prohibitions or Restrictions on the Use of Mines, Booby-Traps and Other Devices as amended at Geneva on 3 May 1996 (Protocol II as amended on 3 May 1996), when the United States is a party to such Protocol, willfully kills or causes serious injury to civilians.

They think they gave themselves a retroactive escape the death penalty card..let’s see what the courts say after 01/20/09.

FWIW 18 USC 2441 is the War Crimes Act of 1996, a Republican bill. Among other things, it made violations of certain parts of the Geneva Conventions, particularly Common Article 3, into Federal crimes that can be tried in Federal Courts.

If I understand correctly, the Geneva conventions are senate-ratified treaties, which by Article VI of the constitution are therefore “the supreme law of the land,” but violations can only be heard by the Supreme Court which only accepts cases from Federal Courts (Catch 22). Hence the need for the War Crimes Act.

More importantly, in Hamdan v. Rumsfeld, the Supreme Court ruled that Common Article 3 applies to detainees in the Global War on Terror, which meant that U.S. torturers and their superiors could be tried in federal courts, not a good thing for those folks. Hence the Military Commissions Act, which relieved the Federal Courts of all jurisdiction relative to alien GWoT detainees. Also, their was some effort to make that stuff retroactive to before 9/11.

howieklein @ 158

Suzanne @ 153

Howie, that is the best blogwhore I’ve seen in many months :)

Thanks. Here’s the photo and I really do want to know the name of the psychological disorder

Sorry howie (head hanging in shame)

Paging Dr Kirk to the thread. Howie, I presume you mean other than the obvious case of Republicanitis that picture shows?

howieklein @ 124

You don’t think he thinks Hillary will pardon him if he starts an anti-occupation stampede in the House?

To get HER elected? You BET she would.

Them Clinton’s learnt Yellow Dog/Blue Dog politics GOOD in their times. Shilary’s forehead shines like Doolittle’s does, now that I think about it . . . all that inside grease . . .

Steve @ 159

howieklein @ 150

What’s that psychological disease called that Lieberman has? He likes being spanked and he wears diapers. I just wrote about him but I couldn’t remember the name of the disease. Anyone know?

I think DrDick is the FDL shrink

Nope — Kirk Murphy. Dr. Dick is an anthropologist (see the last thread).

Leberman, I know I have heard a name, but the only ones that come up are tool and traitor. but that cann’t be right you folks back east elected him, hmm.

TexB @ 162

Great pic Howie. Love the tattoo.

Thanks– an oldie but goody. I hope you realized what the blocks spell out.

Howie —- eliphancy ?

Peterr @ 168

Steve @ 159

I think DrDick is the FDL shrink

Nope — Kirk Murphy. Dr. Dick is an anthropologist (see the last thread).

well as a man of the cloth you probably have to be part shrink, no?

howieklein @ 169

TexB @ 162

Great pic Howie. Love the tattoo.

Thanks– an oldie but goody. I hope you realized what the blocks spell out.

I do now :)

Oh, well, Steve Jobs just vacuumed another 99 cents out of my pocket.

After all the talk about summer weather earlier, I had to hear the old Wendy Waldman song, “Long, Hot Summer Nights.”

Let’s give Bush a big censure for his Birthday and then we can give him a wonderful Impeachment for Christmas when most of his party will be there.

burnspbesq @ 173

Oh, well, Steve Jobs just vacuumed another 99 cents out of my pocket.

After all the talk about summer weather earlier, I had to hear the old Wendy Waldman song, “Long, Hot Summer Nights.”

burns, I understand you all are roasting out there lately

TexB @ 170

Howie —- eliphancy ?

No, it’s some common syndrome for someone who likes being spanked and treated like a child. It’s on the tip of my tongue. It almost came out when he ran for VP in 1999 and the Dems were petrified it would cost them the election.

howieklein @ 176

TexB @ 170

Howie —- eliphancy ?

No, it’s some common syndrome for someone who likes being spanked and treated like a child. It’s on the tip of my tongue. It almost came out when he ran for VP in 1999 and the Dems were petrified it would cost them the election.

An actual condition then? Not just a contest for us to invent a disease name?

anti-Mensch-hosing paddle-swaddle-syndrome by proxy

wigwam @ 165

Steve @ 110

You asked and here is the answer:

TITLE 18 > PART I > CHAPTER 118 > § 2441

§ 2441. War crimes

(a) Offense.— Whoever, whether inside or outside the United States, commits a war crime, in any of the circumstances described in subsection (b), shall be fined under this title or imprisoned for life or any term of years, or both, and if death results to the victim, shall also be subject to the penalty of death.
(b) Circumstances.— The circumstances referred to in subsection (a) are that the person committing such war crime or the victim of such war crime is a member of the Armed Forces of the United States or a national of the United States (as defined in section 101 of the Immigration and Nationality Act).
(c) Definition.— As used in this section the term “war crime” means any conduct—
(1) defined as a grave breach in any of the international conventions signed at Geneva 12 August 1949, or any protocol to such convention to which the United States is a party;
(2) prohibited by Article 23, 25, 27, or 28 of the Annex to the Hague Convention IV, Respecting the Laws and Customs of War on Land, signed 18 October 1907;
(3) which constitutes a violation of common Article 3 of the international conventions signed at Geneva, 12 August 1949, or any protocol to such convention to which the United States is a party and which deals with non-international armed conflict; or
(4) of a person who, in relation to an armed conflict and contrary to the provisions of the Protocol on Prohibitions or Restrictions on the Use of Mines, Booby-Traps and Other Devices as amended at Geneva on 3 May 1996 (Protocol II as amended on 3 May 1996), when the United States is a party to such Protocol, willfully kills or causes serious injury to civilians.

They think they gave themselves a retroactive escape the death penalty card..let’s see what the courts say after 01/20/09.

FWIW 18 USC 2441 is the War Crimes Act of 1996, a Republican bill. Among other things, it made violations of certain parts of the Geneva Conventions, particularly Common Article 3, into Federal crimes that can be tried in Federal Courts.

If I understand correctly, the Geneva conventions are senate-ratified treaties, which by Article VI of the constitution are therefore “the supreme law of the land,” but violations can only be heard by the Supreme Court which only accepts cases from Federal Courts (Catch 22). Hence the need for the War Crimes Act.

More importantly, in Hamdan v. Rumsfeld, the Supreme Court ruled that Common Article 3 applies to detainees in the Global War on Terror, which meant that U.S. torturers and their superiors could be tried in federal courts, not a good thing for those folks. Hence the Military Commissions Act, which relieved the Federal Courts of all jurisdiction relative to alien GWoT detainees. Also, their was some effort to make that stuff retroactive to before 9/11.

The little real estate lawyer from Texas was worried about a noose around his neck…bringing War Crime charges against these people, using an American law, is the first step to regain trust by the world.

infantilism

punaise @ 171

Peterr @ 168

Nope — Kirk Murphy. Dr. Dick is an anthropologist (see the last thread).

well as a man of the cloth you probably have to be part shrink, no?

To a certain degree.

One way to think of it is kind of like the difference between a paramedic vs. an MD. I’ve had a certain amount of training, so if I’m dealing with minor stuff, I can handle it, but I know when I’m dealing with something out of my league and call in someone with more in the way of skills and practice.

TexB @ 177

An actual condition then? Not just a contest for us to invent a disease name?

Absolutely. It’s the real thing. Besides, I do the contests at C&L. here’s where I come looking for the heavy lifting– like names of psychological disorders

howieklein @ 178

TexB @ 170

Howie —- eliphancy ?

No, it’s some common syndrome for someone who likes being spanked and treated like a child. It’s on the tip of my tongue. It almost came out when he ran for VP in 1999 and the Dems were petrified it would cost them the election.

Attention-Seeking Domme Syndrome ?

LoudounLib @ 176

burnspbesq @ 173

Oh, well, Steve Jobs just vacuumed another 99 cents out of my pocket.

After all the talk about summer weather earlier, I had to hear the old Wendy Waldman song, “Long, Hot Summer Nights.”

burns, I understand you all are roasting out there lately

Not so much as some other places. It’s been 85-90 in downtown LA in the afternoon, which means it’s probably in triple digits in the valleys and the Inland Empire. Where I live in OC, we’re just close enough to the water (about eleven miles) that we get an onshore breeze most afternoons, and it starts to cool off nicely by 8:00 or so. It’s 11:15 here, and we’re in the low 60s.

howieklein @ 182

TexB @ 177

An actual condition then? Not just a contest for us to invent a disease name?

Absolutely. It’s the real thing. Besides, I do the contests at C&L. here’s where I come looking for the heavy lifting– like names of psychological disorders

Suzanne got it. Infantilism.

Suzanne @ 180

infantilism

That’s it.

and if Dr Dick will forgive,an anthropologist is not a psychologist, but that splitting hairs, sorry it like archaeologist studying fossils form the Pliocene true but not accurate.

TexB @ 185

howieklein @ 182

Absolutely. It’s the real thing. Besides, I do the contests at C&L. here’s where I come looking for the heavy lifting– like names of psychological disorders

Suzanne got it. Infantilism.

YEP!

Suzanne got it. Infantilism.

There is a deep dark secret I’ve never shared here before…

my girls call me Cliff Clavin. My brain is filled with useless facts.

howie – true story?

burns, what I wouldn’t give for an onshore breeze — 70F, muggy and very still here in NoVA

punaise @ 190

howie – true story?

yes

Steve, You inspired my next custom t-shirt today.

18 USC 2441

Steve @ 181

wigwam @ 165

FWIW 18 USC 2441 is the War Crimes Act of 1996, a Republican bill. Among other things, it made violations of certain parts of the Geneva Conventions, particularly Common Article 3, into Federal crimes that can be tried in Federal Courts.

If I understand correctly, the Geneva conventions are senate-ratified treaties, which by Article VI of the constitution are therefore “the supreme law of the land,” but violations can only be heard by the Supreme Court which only accepts cases from Federal Courts (Catch 22). Hence the need for the War Crimes Act.

More importantly, in Hamdan v. Rumsfeld, the Supreme Court ruled that Common Article 3 applies to detainees in the Global War on Terror, which meant that U.S. torturers and their superiors could be tried in federal courts, not a good thing for those folks. Hence the Military Commissions Act, which relieved the Federal Courts of all jurisdiction relative to alien GWoT detainees. Also, their was some effort to make that stuff retroactive to before 9/11.

The little real estate lawyer from Texas was worried about a noose around his neck…bringing War Crime charges against these people, using an American law, is the first step to regain trust by the world.

I’ve spent some time looking at the MCA, and I’m not so sure that it achieves AG’s goal in that regard. It’s pretty convoluted, but he has some smart professionals on his staff.

In any case, I think that Bush should be charged with violating it, i.e., charged with being a war criminal. And it could carry the death penalty given that some of the victims died. (I don’t believe in the death penalty, but the fact that it is included among the possibilities emphasizes just how grave Bush’s crimes are.)

although the photo is a little doctored

howieklein @ 192

punaise @ 190

howie – true story?

yes

Do us a favor. If you get real pics, burn them. The mental image is painful enough.

Infantilism sounds to bland why couldn’t it be somtehing that sounds interesting like “Coprolalia”

Peterr @ 198

howieklein @ 192

yes

Do us a favor. If you get real pics, burn them. The mental image is painful enough.

any image of HoJo is painful. I say go straight to the National Enquirer with them!

Real pictures would out-darkblack darkblack in the need for eyebleach.

Suzanne @ 190

Suzanne got it. Infantilism.

There is a deep dark secret I’ve never shared here before…

my girls call me Cliff Clavin. My brain is filled with useless facts.

It helps with crossword puzzles! I do mine religiously in ink! Will at the NYT rocks!!!

Steve @ 199

Infantilism sounds to bland why couldn’t it be somtehing that sounds interesting like “Coprolalia”

sounds bland until ya see folks doing it. totally creepy and reminds me of reverse pedoph*le – totally creeps me out and it takes a lot to creep moi

good night all, it is SO past my bedtime…

wigwam @ 197

Steve @ 181

The little real estate lawyer from Texas was worried about a noose around his neck…bringing War Crime charges against these people, using an American law, is the first step to regain trust by the world.

I’ve spent some time looking at the MCA, and I’m not so sure that it achieves AG’s goal in that regard. It’s pretty convoluted, but he has some smart professionals on his staff.

In any case, I think that Bush should be charged with violating it, i.e., charged with being a war criminal. And it could carry the death penalty given that some of the victims died. (I don’t believe in the death penalty, but the fact that it is included among the possibilities emphasizes just how grave Bush’s crimes are.)

The past six years, and the Republican party, have made me re-think my opposition to the death penalty. War Crimes, Mass Murder, and Corporate Murder are some areas where it may be justified. I am still thinking through the issues.

Suzanne @ 201

Steve @ 199

Infantilism sounds to bland why couldn’t it be somtehing that sounds interesting like “Coprolalia”

sounds bland until ya see folks doing it. totally creepy and reminds me of reverse pedoph*le – totally creeps me out and it takes a lot to creep moi

I like hanging out with kids and teens, and I am deadly with a water gun (add ice before you fill it), but …. ummm …. that stuff is just weird.

LoudounLib @ 202

good night all, it is SO past my bedtime…

Good night! Sleep well.

LoudounLib @ 203

good night all, it is SO past my bedtime…

Nite, LL!!!

According to Steve Clemons, Susan Collins is one of seven GOPers that he mentions by name as having advocated “a change in America’s Iraq strategy.” Has anyone told Stay-The-Course Joe?

I am still laughing at the fact that the news of Joe’s fundraiser for Susan brought in double for her opponent. Please let him endorse a Republican for president!

Here are some links on just how unique Bush’s commutation of the convicted perjurer and “obstructo” of the investyigation into WH and OVP exposure of a covert CIA officer actually was!

Statistics of GWB Pardons and Commutation of Sentence

Note…only three commutations…out of over 7000 pardon/commutation requests…and that was after the individuals had served almost all their terms in prison. Libby got off scott-free, it seems.

The list below details this…and other acts of “charity” offered by Bush to those who had been incarcerated years. George the Merciful appears to have different standards for members of his inner cabal that might blab about his involvement, it seems.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L…..ge_W._Bush

And here’s a list of pardons by his father…notice howmany pardons and commutations are for income tax fraud…essentially the same crime that Clinton is excorciated by the right-wing pundits for applying the same standard to Marc Rich! Yet they call Clinton’s statements that one shouldn’t pardon people that are potentially involved in WH cover-ups of exposing a CIA agent hypocrisy???

Note that Clinton didn’t PARDON Sandy Berger…who confessed,pled guilty, was sentenced, and paid the full consequences of his actions. Berger wasn’t found to have passed on the classified information he had to ANYONE ELSE. Libby was blabbing classified info to every two-bit reporter he could get to keep HIS identity secret!

List of people pardoned/commutations by GWB

Suzanne @ 180

infantilism

That’s a bit rash.

So would the larger influence be a net creepy thing, and bring us into more repute and untrustworthiness. or as the neo-cons say more dangerous and more unpredictable, actor on the world stage?

Eureka Springs @ 211

Suzanne @ 180

infantilism

That’s a bit rash.

keeping his powder dry.

thats disrepute it off to dreamland for little Nemo.

Peterr @ 210

According to Steve Clemons, Susan Collins is one of seven GOPers that he mentions by name as having advocated “a change in America’s Iraq strategy.” Has anyone told Stay-The-Course Joe?

I am still laughing at the fact that the news of Joe’s fundraiser for Susan brought in double for her opponent. Please let him endorse a Republican for president!

Pissed me off..I sent money to Tim Allen.

OT..Can Lieberman be removed from his chairmanship? It is my understanding that the Chairmanships were designated by name and not by party in the organizing resolution for this Congress.

trying to find his desitin-y

Howie, I don’t have the link but someone posted a yahoo ap article today where Joe proclaims he might just endorse a Republican candidate for president.

Eureka Springs @ 217

Howie, I don’t have the link but someone posted a yahoo ap article today where Joe proclaims he might just endorse a Republican candidate for president.

here

Suzanne @ 217

trying to find his desitin-y

Indeed

Eureka Springs @ 218

Howie, I don’t have the link but someone posted a yahoo ap article today where Joe proclaims he might just endorse a Republican candidate for president.

The link:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/200…..eberman_dc

cinnamonape @ 211

Here are some links on just how unique Bush’s commutation of the convicted perjurer and “obstructo” of the investyigation into WH and OVP exposure of a covert CIA officer actually was!

Statistics of GWB Pardons and Commutation of Sentence

Note…only three commutations…out of over 7000 pardon/commutation requests…and that was after the individuals had served almost all their terms in prison. Libby got off scott-free, it seems.

The list below details this…and other acts of “charity” offered by Bush to those who had been incarcerated years. George the Merciful appears to have different standards for members of his inner cabal that might blab about his involvement, it seems.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L…..ge_W._Bush

And here’s a list of pardons by his father…notice howmany pardons and commutations are for income tax fraud…essentially the same crime that Clinton is excorciated by the right-wing pundits for applying the same standard to Marc Rich! Yet they call Clinton’s statements that one shouldn’t pardon people that are potentially involved in WH cover-ups of exposing a CIA agent hypocrisy???

Note that Clinton didn’t PARDON Sandy Berger…who confessed,pled guilty, was sentenced, and paid the full consequences of his actions. Berger wasn’t found to have passed on the classified information he had to ANYONE ELSE. Libby was blabbing classified info to every two-bit reporter he could get to keep HIS identity secret!

List of people pardoned/commutations by GWB

The closest analogous case of Clinton’s was Susan McDougal, who refused to testify against Clinton and spent 18 months in prison, including seven weeks in solitary. Clinton pardoned her on his way out the door.

thanks punaise.

Infantilnihilism

Steve @ 214

Peterr @ 210

According to Steve Clemons, Susan Collins is one of seven GOPers that he mentions by name as having advocated “a change in America’s Iraq strategy.” Has anyone told Stay-The-Course Joe?

I am still laughing at the fact that the news of Joe’s fundraiser for Susan brought in double for her opponent. Please let him endorse a Republican for president!

Pissed me off..I sent money to Tim Allen.

OT..Can Lieberman be removed from his chairmanship? It is my understanding that the Chairmanships were designated by name and not by party in the organizing resolution for this Congress.

Only by passing a new resolution, which would be pretty dicey under the present circumstances!!!

G’nite, all!

Might I channel Oklahoma Kiddo and request, rather vociferously that the Dems turf HoJo ?!!

g’nite peterr (and any other retiring pup i may have missed)

Peterr @ 224

G’nite, all!

Nite, Peterr!!!

Joe Lieberman … AKA “Mr. Poopy Pants” by many Democratic Senators …

Peterr @ 223

G’nite, all!

sleep well

punaise @ 221

Infantilnihilism

Joe reSemblers that.

Rovephrenic

PNAC disorder

Peterr @ 226

G’nite, all!

G’nite Peterr !

CTuttle @ 225

Steve @ 214

Pissed me off..I sent money to Tim Allen.

OT..Can Lieberman be removed from his chairmanship? It is my understanding that the Chairmanships were designated by name and not by party in the organizing resolution for this Congress.

Only by passing a new resolution, which would be pretty dicey under the present circumstances!!!

Agreed…which is why Liberals shouldn’t be attacking Reid for letting Joe keep his job. BTW, I hope Reid is replaced in the next Congress.

It’s amazing what TV news hosts and liberal guests let wingnuts get away with. Wednesday night on Hardball Katie O’Bierne claimed that Clinton pleaded guilty to perjury, and nobody called her on it. Tonight some guy from Bush-41’s administration claimed that Clinton was convicted, i.e., impeached, in the house, but the Senate, which functioned like a judge, decided not to punish him.

FWIW, Clinton did not commit perjury (even though he lied under oath). The details are here: http://www.huppi.com/kangaroo/…..rjury.html

Steve @ 234

CTuttle @ 225

Only by passing a new resolution, which would be pretty dicey under the present circumstances!!!

Agreed…which is why Liberals shouldn’t be attacking Reid for letting Joe keep his job. BTW, I hope Reid is replaced in the next Congress.

The only thing worse that BushCo’s transgressions is Harry Reid’s acquiescence.

Steve @ 232

CTuttle @ 225

Only by passing a new resolution, which would be pretty dicey under the present circumstances!!!

Agreed…which is why Liberals shouldn’t be attacking Reid for letting Joe keep his job. BTW, I hope Reid is replaced in the next Congress.

I agree with most of what you said, however, Reid should be replaced as the Senate Dem Leader, not replaced by Nevadan voters!

punaise @ 219

Eureka Springs @ 217

Howie, I don’t have the link but someone posted a yahoo ap article today where Joe proclaims he might just endorse a Republican candidate for president.

OMG, I didn’t know Lieberman is only 65. I thought he was in his late seventies.

here

Time for me to bid you all good night.

See you tomorrow.

The following is from http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/7/5/231514/7031

Writing for Harvard University’s Nieman Watchdog, [General William Odom, former head of the NSA] called for the withdrawal of U.S. forces from Iraq. Now, he’s done this before, so that’s not where the news is. Rather, the good stuff came at the end of Odom’s piece—when he delivered a three-step plan by which Congress can force the President to give in. Here’s a summation of what Odom said:

1. Redefine what “supporting the troops” means.

2. Flatly refuse to appropriate war funds “for anything but withdrawal operations with a clear deadline for completion.”

3. If that doesn’t work, Congress should impeach the President for “the ‘high crime’ of squandering the lives of soldiers and Marines for his own personal interest.”

TexB @ 237

Time for me to bid you all good night.

See you tomorrow.

G’nite, TexB!!!

Petrocelli @ 233

Peterr @ 226

G’nite, all!

G’nite Peterr !

Triples!

wigwam @ 237

The following is from http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/7/5/231514/7031

Writing for Harvard University’s Nieman Watchdog, [General William Odom, former head of the NSA] called for the withdrawal of U.S. forces from Iraq. Now, he’s done this before, so that’s not where the news is. Rather, the good stuff came at the end of Odom’s piece—when he delivered a three-step plan by which Congress can force the President to give in. Here’s a summation of what Odom said:

1. Redefine what “supporting the troops” means.

2. Flatly refuse to appropriate war funds “for anything but withdrawal operations with a clear deadline for completion.”

3. If that doesn’t work, Congress should impeach the President for “the ‘high crime’ of squandering the lives of soldiers and Marines for his own personal interest.”

wow!

g’nite tex

Peterr @ 128

Howie, how do things look for taking Doolittle’s seat next year with a nice Blue America candidate?

How about replacing a certain congressman in my area with a real Democrat? From the Democratic wing of the Party?

TexB, nite and I hope it stops raining there.

I just hit the wall
so good night all

wigwam @ 238

The following is from http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/7/5/231514/7031

Writing for Harvard University’s Nieman Watchdog, [General William Odom, former head of the NSA] called for the withdrawal of U.S. forces from Iraq. Now, he’s done this before, so that’s not where the news is. Rather, the good stuff came at the end of Odom’s piece—when he delivered a three-step plan by which Congress can force the President to give in. Here’s a summation of what Odom said:

1. Redefine what “supporting the troops” means.

2. Flatly refuse to appropriate war funds “for anything but withdrawal operations with a clear deadline for completion.”

3. If that doesn’t work, Congress should impeach the President for “the ‘high crime’ of squandering the lives of soldiers and Marines for his own personal interest.”

Odom was also one of the ground commanders in Iraq, early on! I recommend #3 first, the others will naturally follow! *g*

punaise @ 245

I just hit the wall
so good night all

Nite, O’wizard of words!!!

CTuttle @ 248

wigwam @ 238

The following is from http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/7/5/231514/7031

Odom was also one of the ground commanders in Iraq, early on! I recommend #3 first, the others will naturally follow! *g*

Good idea. Why waste time?

CT, you have to change the definition of what supporting the troops means first. That has been boosh’s first line of defense, playing the you don’t support the troops card. Gotta take that away from him first to paraphrase Inigo Montoya, so that does not mean what he thinks it means.

I just looked in the DSM-IV, the manual of psychiatric disorders and there’s nothing in the index about infantilism, I’ll investigate further.

CTuttle @ 248

wigwam @ 238

The following is from http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/7/5/231514/7031

Odom was also one of the ground commanders in Iraq, early on! I recommend #3 first, the others will naturally follow! *g*

Seconded !

Motion carried ?!!

CTuttle @ 237

Steve @ 232

Agreed…which is why Liberals shouldn’t be attacking Reid for letting Joe keep his job. BTW, I hope Reid is replaced in the next Congress.

I agree with most of what you said, however, Reid should be replaced as the Senate Dem Leader, not replaced by Nevadan voters!

Correct, I should have been more careful with my wording.

persiflage @ 252

I just looked in the DSM-IV, the manual of psychiatric disorders and there’s nothing in the index about infantilism, I’ll investigate further.

See Paraphilic infantilism …

It’s past 3 a.m. in Toronto … time to hit the hay …

G’nite all !!!

Try this one

Night sleepers.

Did you see that there’s a new pres candidate?

http://www.realcities.com/mld/…..forum.html

Time to put away the ThinkPad and trundle off. G’nite.

About time for this tired pup amble off myself. Dayam heat just saps the energy outta me.

catch ya tomorrow nite, same bat time, same bat channel

Petrocelli @ 255

persiflage @ 252

I just looked in the DSM-IV, the manual of psychiatric disorders and there’s nothing in the index about infantilism, I’ll investigate further.

See Paraphilic infantilism …

I think it would be a paraphilic disorder (not otherwise specified)

g-down g’nite Suz.. g’nite all.

Yesterday, Tony Snow responded to criticism from the Clintons about the Scooter commutation thus:

“I don’t know what is Arkansan for chutzpah [1] but this is a gigantic case of it.”

We have reached a sad time when goyishe [2] Tony Snow is speaking Yiddish from the White House. Don’t we Jews have enough tsouris?[3]

Apparently, in this latest iteration of the “Bill Clinton did it, too” excuse, the White House is seeking to evoke the recollection of the Mark Rich pardon. Gay gezinteh heit. Chub a gutten yur. [4]

On Bill Clinton’s last day in office, he pardoned a refugee from the Nazis, Mark Rich, M.O.T., [5] a financier and philanthropist who had been falsely accused of tax evasion by Rudy Giuliani.

I say falsely accused because such is the opinion of U.S. tax professors Bernard Wolfman of Harvard Law School and Martin Ginsburg of Georgetown University Law Center. It was also the opinion of a panel of distinguished Republican lawyers including I. Lewis ‘Scooter’ Libby. Be that as it may, these kinds of disputes are not unusual, and they are normally resolved in civil suits.

In the Republican orgy of recriminations against the Clinton administration that was the hallmark of the early days of the Bush administration, it was alleged that President Clinton pardoned Rich in return for favors paid to him. Indeed, the Prime Minister of Israel, Ehud Barak, who had worked so hard with President Clinton to secure a lasting resolution to the Israeli-Palestinian problem, had made a clemency plea on behalf of Rich, as had numerous other Israeli officials.

Grasping at straws, Clinton-haters pointed out that Rich’s former wife and the mother of his three children, socialite Denise Rich, had made large donations to the Democratic Party and the Clinton Library during Clinton’s time in office. A Federal Prosecutor was appointed to investigate whether or not a crime was committed by Clinton’s exercise of the plenary pardon power. The conclusion arrived at by James Comey, who was to later become the Acting Attorney General under George W. Bush, was that there were no grounds to present to a Grand Jury.

Nobody, not even the most rabid Republicans ever suggested that the pardon of Mark Rich was a part of a conspiracy to protect members of the administration. Never was it suggested that Bill Clinton had a political motive for his decision to right a wrong committed by an over-zealous prosecutor, who now happens to be running for the Republican nomination for President.

Still want to talk about Mark Rich? Gai kakhen afenyam. [6]

“… and tell ’em Menachem Mendel [7] sent ya!”

Footnotes for the Yiddish challenged:
[1] lit. Nerve. Colloq: balls, as in “He had the chutzpah of a blind burglar.”
[2] Non-Jewish, and (when used in an otherwise English sentence) non-Jewish in a stereotypical way.
[3] troubles
[4] “Go and be healthy. Have a good year.” The equivalent to the dismissive “Knock yourself out,” you should pardon the expression.
[5] Member of the Tribe, (e.g. Rich, Libby)
[6] Go shit in the ocean.
[7] Big Mitch

I apologize for posting this here, as I have posted it elsewhere on FDL. However, the “Clinton did it” excuse is so fucking lame, and, if we learned anything from the swiftboating of Kerry, it is that we must respond to every attack.

knock, knock…

?

punaise @ 69

“hare today, Guantanamo”

(if Cheney gets his hands on the critter)

Morning, all -

Knew without looking at commenter’s name, that one had the mark of the punster all over it!

yo

raven -

Late nite or early mornin’ crew?

Good morning!

Waccamaw @ 269

raven -

Late nite or early mornin’ crew?

Walk me out in thew early mornin’

Good morning, pups. The NYT has Bobo nattering about the end of integration and Paul Krugman wondering what sacrifices the Current Resident has made in a column titled “Sacrifice Is for Suckers.”

http://mgpaquin.wordpress.com/

Coffee and tea are ready, and a variety of bagels with cream cheese. 563 days to go…

Geek statistics report:

FDL has passed 38,000,000 visits.

‘Morning, Marion, FirePups.

Ugh, that piece by Bobo is whacked; why does his editor allow him to publish this kind of meandering crap? What an ass, too, concluding this is the best we’re going to get out of integration — from an educated, well-off, white guy’s perspective. He’s completely forgotten that point, that he has no f*cking clue what it’s like to be a minority, or how little this country really does NOW to ensure that minorities’ rights are not trampled. As if he never heard of Bradley Schlozman…

Need coffee to wash that Bobo out of my head.

egregious @ 273

Geek statistics report:

FDL has passed 38,000,000 visits.

and 478,516 of those were mine

egregious -

Assume that’s multiple visits from same people (like Elliott *g*). Can the geeks break it down into #s of visits from different people?

Waccamaw—before my coffee? Have mercy.

good morning!! – lovely snark from David Sirota
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/…..55053.html

Goodmorning! It’s FLIDAY!

and at we have a county number.. “I’ve got your pardon, We’ll announce in in the Rose Garden”…

egregious -

Mercy it is. Didn’t realize that you were doing the geeking.

Here, darlin’……have a fresh blueberry & pecan muffin right out of the oven to go with your coffee. New recipe I just tried and it’s definitely a keeper. If you hurry, they’re still hot enough to melt butter.

Kathryn in MA @ 278

good morning!! – lovely snark from David Sirota
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/…..55053.html

thanks, it’s tasty:

But at some point in the last few years, things changed. The people – us, the sheep that the Heroic Herders like Krauthammer and Will bravely corralled, us, the unwashed masses that the Courageous Cleansers like Klein and Friedman valiantly scrubbed down – the people found their own power through the Internet, through thousands of blogs like this one, through newsletters, through alternative media and – gasp! – through actual organizing.

as is that muffin!

Waccamaw,

I’m just a humble sub-geek. Others do the actual hard thinking. Do I still get the fresh blueberry and pecan muffin [droool…]?

cinnamonape @ 211

Here are some links on just how unique Bush’s commutation of the convicted perjurer and “obstructo” of the investyigation into WH and OVP exposure of a covert CIA officer actually was!

[Mod:snip]

Clinton couldn’t pardon Berger…the offense occurred after Bubba was out of office.

Come and join us upstairs for Scarecrow’s new thread: SiCKO: Ask The Right Question First.