Ding Dong

!!!

Freddy is disgusting. But I do not fear him.

Bush = Nixon

Holy Moley Fred!

Just take a look at the cream of the Republican crop. Rudy, Fred and Mitt.

Gore v. Fred. Blue skies ahead.

I find this not at all shocking and fits exactly my image of Thompson. But you know he looks the part so the GOP will probably nominate him as the REP Presidential Candidate because he can be their Daddy.

Today, Tony Snow responding to criticism from the Clintons about the Scooter commutation thus:

“I don’t know what is Arkansan for chutzpah [1] but this is a gigantic case of it.”

We have reached a sad time when goyishe [2] Tony Snow is speaking Yiddish from the White House. Don’t we Jews have enough tsouris?[3]

Apparently, in this latest iteration of the “Bill Clinton did it, too” excuse, the White House is seeking to evoke the recollection of the Mark Rich pardon. Gay gezinteh heit. Chub a gutten yur. [4]

On Bill Clinton’s last day in office, he pardoned a refugee from the Nazis, Mark Rich, M.O.T., [5] a financier and philanthropist who had been falsely accused of tax evasion by Rudy Giuliani.

I say falsely accused because such is the opinion of U.S. tax professors Bernard Wolfman of Harvard Law School and Martin Ginsburg of Georgetown University Law Center. It was also the opinion of a panel of distinguished Republican lawyers including I. Lewis ‘Scooter’ Libby. Be that as it may, these kinds of disputes are not unusual, and they are normally resolved in civil suits.

In the Republican orgy of recriminations against the Clinton administration that was the hallmark of the early days of the Bush administration, it was alleged that President Clinton pardoned Rich in return for favors paid to him. Indeed, the Prime Minister of Israel, Ehud Barak, who had worked so hard with President Clinton to secure a lasting resolution to the Israeli-Palestinian problem, had made a clemency plea on behalf of Rich, as had numerous other Israeli officials.

Grasping at straws, Clinton-haters pointed out that Rich’s former wife and the mother of his three children, socialite Denise Rich, had made large donations to the Democratic Party and the Clinton Library during Clinton’s time in office. A Federal Prosecutor was appointed to investigate whether or not a crime was committed by Clinton’s exercise of the plenary pardon power. The conclusion arrived at by James Comey, who was to later become the Acting Attorney General under George W. Bush, was that there were no grounds to present to a Grand Jury.

Nobody, not even the most rabid Republicans ever suggested that the pardon of Mark Rich was a part of a conspiracy to protect members of the administration. Never was it suggested that Bill Clinton had a political motive for his decision to right a wrong committed by an over-zealous prosecutor, who now happens to be running for the Republican nomination for President.

Still want to talk about Mark Rich? Gai kakhen afenyam. [6]

“… and tell ’em Menachem Mendel [7] sent ya!”

Footnotes for the Yiddish challenged:
[1] lit. Nerve. Colloq: balls, as in “He had the chutzpah of a blind burglar.”
[2] Non-Jewish, and (when used in an otherwise English sentence) non-Jewish in a stereotypical way.
[3] troubles
[4] “Go and be healthy. Have a good year.” The equivalent to the dismissive “Knock yourself out,” you should pardon the expression.
[5] Member of the Tribe, (e.g. Rich, Libby)
[6] Go shit in the ocean.
[7] Big Mitch

epu’d: here’s my frustration for the day: When Judge Walton points out the screw-up of Bush commuting the sentence before it was even begun, Tony Snow brushes off the importance of details in the legal world, just as his boss does with any inconvenience: Oh, well, just make it work to fit our circumstances.
I can only guess that legal folks who know, love and appreciate the law and its details must be going crazy with this type of thinking:

Snow said the White House view was this: “You treat it as if he has already served the 30 months, and probation kicks in. Obviously, the sentencing judge will figure out precisely how that works.”

Big Mitch!! LOL

Republicans: we will bury you.

Local Austin news reporter, “A woman had falled down”..

Okay, I’m sorry I was wordy and off-topic. But living in Alaska, I so rarely get to post in the first 150 comments.

Please forgive.

Joey The Shitheel Lieberman is one other vile spawn of the whole Nixon crime bonanza too. Conservative Joe was the takedown artist to get rid of Wiecker for his intransigence against Nixon.

My contempt for Lieberman knows no bounds.

-GSD

Big Mitch @ 14

Okay, I’m sorry I was wordy and off-topic. But living in Alaska, I so rarely get to post in the first 150 comments.

Please forgive.

I liked it!!

Brother Rat, Sister Ferret, Grand ol’Party

LS @ 11

Big Mitch!! LOL

I’ll second that.

Phoenix Woman!

Here’s the moneyshot from the wiki link on Lowell Weicker:

Finally, conservative animus spilled into overt support for Joe Lieberman in 1988, both from national sources such as National Review (publisher William F. Buckley, Jr., and his brother, former New York Senator James Buckley, both endorsed and campaigned for Lieberman in 1988), but more importantly, from rank-and-file Connecticut Republicans irate with Weicker’s effort to make the local party more liberal and prevent the nomination of conservatives to state office, and the poor showing of Weicker-backed candidates in the 1986 elections. Weicker was defeated in the 1988 election by less than 1% of the vote, owing in large part to defections by Republicans to Lieberman.

Do you think the Repubs primary will be the Mole vs the Ferret?

I can’t wait for DC Madam’s “money shot”!!

Rats are wonderful pets. Don’t be hatin’ on rats!

And all you GOP weirdos monitoring this site. Understand this: I will support the nominee of my party come Nov. 2008 to be the next Democratic President of the United States.

Traps or pellets?

tin soldiers and nixon’s rat
we’re finally on our own
this summer i hear them calling
four dead in ohio

Mabel’s Wig Shack @ 25

tin soldiers and nixon’s rat
we’re finally on our own
this summer i hear them calling
four dead in ohio

tin soldiers and Nixon, scumming

Oklahoma kiddo @ 7

Gore v. Fred. Blue skies ahead.

Nothing but!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WSCplj40uuY

Meanwhile, an actual Republican Watergate hero, Lowell Weicker, had his career short-circuited by his putting country over party — and the very neocons and paleocons now running the GOP and much of the Washington social scene are the ones responsible for his downfall.

And which Democrat CFL egomaniac defeated Weicker by running to his right?

That’s right, ladies and germs, Joe Lieberman.

And thanks, PW, for pointing out Senor Fred’s rodent history. And here I just thought that the GOP candidates all liked traitors.

LS @ 20

Do you think the Repubs primary will be the Mole vs the Ferret?

and the dog tied to the roof of the bus…

dakine01 @ 19

Phoenix Woman!

Here’s the moneyshot from the wiki link on Lowell Weicker:

Finally, conservative animus spilled into overt support for Joe Lieberman in 1988, both from national sources such as National Review (publisher William F. Buckley, Jr., and his brother, former New York Senator James Buckley, both endorsed and campaigned for Lieberman in 1988), but more importantly, from rank-and-file Connecticut Republicans irate with Weicker’s effort to make the local party more liberal and prevent the nomination of conservatives to state office, and the poor showing of Weicker-backed candidates in the 1986 elections. Weicker was defeated in the 1988 election by less than 1% of the vote, owing in large part to defections by Republicans to Lieberman.

OK, ya beat me to it. I have family in CT, so it’s personal.

How are Things in Guacamole???

LS @ 16

Big Mitch @ 14

Okay, I’m sorry I was wordy and off-topic. But living in Alaska, I so rarely get to post in the first 150 comments.

Please forgive.

I liked it!!

Ditto.

A new one for the list. The Broder Bounce. The Mitchell Majority. The Friedman Unit. Now we have the Todd Lift.

Chuck Todd predicted Bush at over 50% by this July4th. Because of the Democratic landslide election in 2006.

Chuck Todd, another foolish tool.

-GSD

Renee in Ohio @ 22

Rats are wonderful pets. Don’t be hatin’ on rats!

My Siamese who past away not too long ago and was with me for many years, had a pet rat. They loved each other. I let my beloved cat outside, but not the rat whose name was “Ratty”. When inside, if you wanted to find the cat, find the rat, and the inverse was true. No bs.

Loved it Big Mitch!

Mitch @ 9 ..Glad you reposted it..The Marc Rich pardon was a return favor to Barak..As Clinton said himself..Barak wanted Pollard released and got Rich as second choice.

Oklahoma kiddo @ 34

Renee in Ohio @ 22

Rats are wonderful pets. Don’t be hatin’ on rats!

My Siamese who past away not too long ago and was with me for many years, had a pet rat. They loved each other. I let my beloved cat outside, but not the rat whose name was “Ratty”. When inside, if you wanted to find the cat, find the rat, and the inverse was true. No bs.

I had a friend who had one called Tilly. Tilly would run through the house, and if you were smoking a cigarette, she’d run up and steal it right from you. They are very smart and funny creatures.

I meant to say Chuck Todd was a toolish fool..

-GSD

LHP alluded to this on the last thread, but it was described in more detail on July 3 in DanFroomkin’s great post at washingtonpst.com called “Obstruction of Justice, Continued”

http://www.washingtonpost.com/…..01366.html

Here’s the part I like most in his great post:

“The Framers, ever sensitive to the need for checks and balances, recognized the potential for abuse of the pardon power. According to a Judiciary Committee report drafted in the aftermath of the Watergate crisis: “In the [Constitutional] convention George Mason argued that the President might use his pardoning power to ‘pardon crimes which were advised by himself’ or, before indictment or conviction, ‘to stop inquiry and prevent detection.’

James Madison responded:
“[I]f the President be connected, in any suspicious manner, with any person, and there be grounds [to] believe he will shelter him, the House of Representatives can impeach him; they can remove him if found guilty. . . .
“Madison went on to [say] contrary to his position in the Philadelphia convention, that the President could be suspended when suspected, and his powers would devolve on the Vice President, who could likewise be suspended until impeached and convicted, if he were also suspected.” “

My question is…. exactly how does the Congress do the suspension??? Isn’t the prospect exciting?

Madison lays out exactly how to suspend Bush and Cheney until they are impeached and convicted…

Any scholars with more details on this pls?

OT

the illustrious & wonderful AL GORE will be larry king’s guest tonight on CNN @ 9PM.

in a preview they used a clip of the interview where larry said – “well you did get the most votes”.

waytogolar :)

I love me some Waxman. Now he’s investigating the construction of the Iraq Embassy.

http://www.tpmmuckraker.com/archives/003606.php

How did Thompson get into show-business anyway?

Oklahoma kiddo @ 34

Renee in Ohio @ 22

Rats are wonderful pets. Don’t be hatin’ on rats!

My Siamese who past away not too long ago and was with me for many years, had a pet rat. They loved each other. I let my beloved cat outside, but not the rat whose name was “Ratty”. When inside, if you wanted to find the cat, find the rat, and the inverse was true. No bs.

Sorry for your loss, Okkiddo. We’ve got a pet rat, & not the first one either. Better tempered than guinea pigs IMO.

You know what rats think when they peer out from the shadows & see us feeding the squirrels?
There, but for a bushy tail, go I.

LS @ 5

Holy Moley Fred!

LOL

Re: Armitage. Now this is interesting considering the talking points:

http://www.dailykos.com/storyo…..73632/8258

There, but for a bushy tail, go I.

How I always heard it was “squirrels are just rats with good P.R.”

cc in nm @ 39

Madison lays out exactly how to suspend Bush and Cheney until they are impeached and convicted…

Any scholars with more details on this pls?

I’d love to hear the arguments strict constructionist rethugs make against Madison on this point. After all, they’re the ones who are always arguing framers’ intent versus the evils of the judicial activism/Warren court. hehe

Bush = Nixon nope
more like

Bush = Howdie Doodie more and more everyday.

Cheney = Hitler

Loo Hoo. @ 41

I love me some Waxman. Now he’s investigating the construction of the Iraq Embassy.

http://www.tpmmuckraker.com/archives/003606.php

Interesting, since the US is furious at the Kuwaiti’s shodding construction. I’m sure they’ll figure out a connection to Clinton somehow…

Conyers wants to look at all pardons by Clinton, too. If you suggest that, why not look at every single pardon by every President, why stop with Clinton?

C’mon, this is a mockery. Someone has to reign Conyers in. Stick with the present. If Tony Snow says, “look at Marc Rich” say, alright, we need to speak with his lawyer about that too, Scooter Libby.

Stay on the offensive. Quit letting the republicans set the debate and agenda. C’mon!

Loo Hoo. @ 41

I love me some Waxman. Now he’s investigating the construction of the Iraq Embassy.

http://www.tpmmuckraker.com/archives/003606.php

Interesting, since the US is furious at the Kuwaiti’s shodding construction. I’m sure they’ll figure out a connection to Clinton somehow…LS @ 49

Loo Hoo. @ 41

I love me some Waxman. Now he’s investigating the construction of the Iraq Embassy.

http://www.tpmmuckraker.com/archives/003606.php

Interesting, since the US is furious at the Kuwaiti’s shodding construction. I’m sure they’ll figure out a connection to Clinton somehow…

Shoddy, sh..o..dd..y.

Educated Plaintiff @ 40

OT

in a preview they used a clip of the interview where larry said – “well you did get the most votes”.

waytogolar :)

That’s got ‘tipping point’ written all over it to my way of thinking!

Domenichi is now against Bush on Iraq. Hmm, this could be a nice trend. Who nominated Paulose, or whatever her frickin’ name is in Minnesota, as US Attorney? Get on them about the war and see if they will flip.

LS @ 45

Re: Armitage. Now this is interesting considering the talking points:

http://www.dailykos.com/storyo…..73632/8258

And it is pure bullshit. Armitage didn’t leak because he’s an inveterate gossip. He leaked because he was told to.

Ed*ard Teller @ 54

LS @ 45

Re: Armitage. Now this is interesting considering the talking points:

http://www.dailykos.com/storyo…..73632/8258

And it is pure bullshit. Armitage didn’t leak because he’s an inveterate gossip. He leaked because he was told to.

You bet.

So know we find out that Thompson was a mole for the Nixon administration. Once againg a Republican puts Party above the country. He along with his ilk in the Republican Party are members of a 5th column whose intent is the undermining of democracy in the interest of the well connected elites. He’s a Quisling in sheeps clothing willing to sell out his country.

Get Tough @ 50

Conyers wants to look at all pardons by Clinton, too. If you suggest that, why not look at every single pardon by every President, why stop with Clinton?

C’mon, this is a mockery. Someone has to reign Conyers in. Stick with the present. If Tony Snow says, “look at Marc Rich” say, alright, we need to speak with his lawyer about that too, Scooter Libby.

Stay on the offensive. Quit letting the republicans set the debate and agenda. C’mon!

‘kay … only 2 choices here: look at bush’s record OR look at all presidential pardons ever, including reagan’s and poppy bush’s. there’s no f-ing logical argument for pitting it clinton vs. bush.

sheesh.

Ed*ard Teller @ 54

LS @ 45

Re: Armitage. Now this is interesting considering the talking points:

http://www.dailykos.com/storyo…..73632/8258

And it is pure bullshit. Armitage didn’t leak because he’s an inveterate gossip. He leaked because he was told to.

That is the point! “They” are saying he was a gossip to cover up that they told him to do it!

April Ryan on Softball. A real journalist? She got into Tony Snowjob’s face yesterday.

Oh, and I am shocked, shocked Fred Thompson, would betray his country for Nixon. Fred’s good looks make up for it, at least the ladies say so.

*xyz @ 4

Bush = Nixon

Bush is much worse than Nixon ever was, which says quite a bit!

fdl reader @ 57

Get Tough @ 50

Conyers wants to look at all pardons by Clinton, too. If you suggest that, why not look at every single pardon by every President, why stop with Clinton?

C’mon, this is a mockery. Someone has to reign Conyers in. Stick with the present. If Tony Snow says, “look at Marc Rich” say, alright, we need to speak with his lawyer about that too, Scooter Libby.

Stay on the offensive. Quit letting the republicans set the debate and agenda. C’mon!

‘kay … only 2 choices here: look at bush’s record OR look at all presidential pardons ever, including reagan’s and poppy bush’s. there’s no f-ing logical argument for pitting it clinton vs. bush.

sheesh.

Exactly. And so tell Tony Snow that Congress needs to talk with Libby about Rich and his Jan. 21, 2001 pardon from Clinton, then let it die and get to work on the present!

realworld @ 60

*xyz @ 4

Bush = Nixon

Bush is much worse than Nixon ever was, which says quite a bit!

Cheney = devil incarnate
bush = little ricky

Get Tough @ 61

fdl reader @ 57

‘kay … only 2 choices here: look at bush’s record OR look at all presidential pardons ever, including reagan’s and poppy bush’s. there’s no f-ing logical argument for pitting it clinton vs. bush.

sheesh.

Exactly. And so tell Tony Snow that Congress needs to talk with Libby about Rich and his Jan. 21, 2001 pardon from Clinton, then let it die and get to work on the present!

Ding!

OT but typically outrageous… Benedict Lieberling announces that he might very well endorse a rethug for president in ‘08…

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/200…..fL50YE1vAI

Ed*ard Teller @ 54

LS @ 45

Re: Armitage. Now this is interesting considering the talking points:

http://www.dailykos.com/storyo…..73632/8258

And it is pure bullshit. Armitage didn’t leak because he’s an inveterate gossip. He leaked because he was told to.

It seems fairly likely that Armitage is telling the truth in that he didn’t know (wasn’t told) that she was covert or that the info was classified. That makes whoever told him “the leaker”. Also, there’s probably enough reporter left in Woodward to get people rambling on and on.

(Overtalkers Anonymous: Onandonandonandonandonanon)

LS @ 63

Get Tough @ 61

Exactly. And so tell Tony Snow that Congress needs to talk with Libby about Rich and his Jan. 21, 2001 pardon from Clinton, then let it die and get to work on the present!

Ding!

Nevermind…

Get Libby in to talk about Rich and other matters….that he can’t claim the 5th on?

fdl reader @ 57

Get Tough @ 50

Conyers wants to look at all pardons by Clinton, too. If you suggest that, why not look at every single pardon by every President, why stop with Clinton?

C’mon, this is a mockery. Someone has to reign Conyers in. Stick with the present. If Tony Snow says, “look at Marc Rich” say, alright, we need to speak with his lawyer about that too, Scooter Libby.

Stay on the offensive. Quit letting the republicans set the debate and agenda. C’mon!

‘kay … only 2 choices here: look at bush’s record OR look at all presidential pardons ever, including reagan’s and poppy bush’s. there’s no f-ing logical argument for pitting it clinton vs. bush.

sheesh.

I don’t think this is such a bad move on his part. It defuses the partisanship issue. Clinton was indeed out of line with some of his final pardons but and we should acknowledge that. Bush on the other hand abets obstruction of justice, the destruction of a wing of the CIA and treason. One deserves disdain. The other deserves impeachment followed by more than 30 months in prison. Let’s just put them side by side and look at them, but also, let’s not mince words when we do. A mouse is a mouse and a rat is a rat.

LS @ 66

LS @ 63

Ding!

Nevermind…

Get Libby in to talk about Rich and other matters….that he can’t claim the 5th on?

what about lawyer/client confidentialness?

Olbermann.

Blub @ 64

OT but typically outrageous… Benedict Lieberling announces that he might very well endorse a rethug for president in ‘08…

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/200…..fL50YE1vAI

Weasel. We were talking about rodents, right?

Lieberman’s the mole.
he was planted by the Bush folks from the very first instance.
Don’t forget, Conn. is the home-grounds for the Bushes: Granpa Prescott was Sen from there while he was trying to stabilize the finances of Hitler and the nazis.
Until Lamont, NoMoJo’s opponents were a collection of remarkably feckless nobodies, never particularly ringingly endorsed by the Conn GOPukes. They fixed it so HoJo would win easily.
over & over
.

Fern @ 70

Weasel. We were talking about rodents, right?

precisely

Oklahoma kiddo @ 69

Olbermann.

For President, perhaps?

realworld @ 67

fdl reader @ 57

‘kay … only 2 choices here: look at bush’s record OR look at all presidential pardons ever, including reagan’s and poppy bush’s. there’s no f-ing logical argument for pitting it clinton vs. bush.

sheesh.

I don’t think this is such a bad move on his part. It defuses the partisanship issue. Clinton was indeed out of line with some of his final pardons but and we should acknowledge that. Bush on the other hand abets obstruction of justice, the destruction of a wing of the CIA and treason. One deserves disdain. The other deserves impeachment followed by more than 30 months in prison. Let’s just put them side by side and look at them, but also, let’s not mince words when we do. A mouse is a mouse and a rat is a rat.

I agree with that on one level, realworld, and that is if someone following this whole thing, like FDL bloggers, were the majority. We, unfortunately, are not. So instead of taking the Republican talking point and extending it out, oh to their delight, go back at them with a soundbyte, let it die, and then get to work on Libby’s commutation. It is too juicy to let die, and that is exactly what Bush’s party wants.

Question for the day:

What if the WH held a press conference and nobody came?

Ding!

Nevermind…

Get Libby in to talk about Rich and other matters….that he can’t claim the 5th on?

what about lawyer/client confidentialness?

Very limited immunity?

GordonM @ 65

It seems fairly likely that Armitage is telling the truth in that he didn’t know (wasn’t told) that she was covert or that the info was classified. That makes whoever told him “the leaker”. Also, there’s probably enough reporter left in Woodward to get people rambling on and on.

(Overtalkers Anonymous: Onandonandonandonandonanon)

And that’s bullshit too. Armitage was ONI, then CIA, then beyond CIA before many commenters here were born. He set up office in Bangkok right after the fall of Saigon, gaining control of the most powerful Burmese warlord, Kum Sa. He’s highly knowledgeable about the transfer of CIA drug money laundering operations from Bangkok to Panama City in the early 1980s. He’s spent a lot of time in the same underworld as Brewster-Jennings operated in. The possibiity of him not knowing a lot of what Valerie Plame was up to in her operations is very, very dim.

It really does look like Armitage saw a letter that referenced Wilson’s wife working for the CIA. This letter originated from the VP office.

While it was “classified”, why was it necessary for people in the State Dept. to know this little bit of trivia?

It was put out there to have more and more people know it…make it “common knowledge”.

The State Dept. doesn’t need to know any names of NOC’s any more than you or I do.

Elliott @ 68

LS @ 66

Nevermind…

Get Libby in to talk about Rich and other matters….that he can’t claim the 5th on?

what about lawyer/client confidentialness?

Ask him about this, and whether he felt his boss 4thBranch falls into that same category:

From Wiki:

“During hearings after Rich’s pardon, Lewis “Scooter” Libby, who had represented Rich from 1985 until the spring of 2000, denied that Rich had violated the tax laws, but criticized him for trading with Iran at a time when that country was holding U.S. hostages”

John Dean on KO.

Fred Fielding didn’t put anything from the DOJ in his letter to Walton.

So much that was not done, very little staff, close to the vest.

Conflict, mess, incompetence.

US attorneys are going to face Libby motions all over the country. Consider the family, etc.

Keith, hearings on the 11th, can they compel Libby to testify?

Yes, absolutely. Conyers may want to know if there’s some quid pro quo. Ticking time bomb.

John Dean is cutting to the quick on Olbermann.

more O please

Keith- any way for congress to get the truth?

Impeachment hearing, but it doesn’t carry any more weight than the Judiciary Committee. Congress has plenty of power, how hard will they push?

I wonder if Fielding was much involved in this at all, he seems to be the cautious sort. This seems more brazen and faulty, more of Addington’s style.

AnnieW @ 84

I wonder if Fielding was much involved in this at all, he seems to be the cautious sort. This seems more brazen and faulty, more of Addington’s style.

What about all that recent lawyering up??

Fred Thompson needs to be absolutely bbq’d over this.

Thompson’s history of ill faith is repeating itself.

Fred Thompson became a Nixon mole in support of a crook. As revealed by his support for another Republican crook today, some things never change.

These are not legal issues, these are moral issues. The Bush behavior(s).

He blinks like a lizard about to catch a fly. I expect the tongue to flash out momentarily…but it never does.

LS @ 88

He blinks like a lizard about to catch a fly. I expect the tongue to flash out momentarily…but it never does.

you crack me up

LS @ 88

He blinks like a lizard about to catch a fly. I expect the tongue to flash out momentarily…but it never does.

707!

Olbermann mentions that there is still a “little matter of Iraq” out there. These guys (Bush) are just stalling. Get ‘em Speaker!

Ed*ard Teller @ 77

GordonM @ 65

It seems fairly likely that Armitage is telling the truth in that he didn’t know (wasn’t told) that she was covert or that the info was classified. That makes whoever told him “the leaker”. Also, there’s probably enough reporter left in Woodward to get people rambling on and on.

(Overtalkers Anonymous: Onandonandonandonandonanon)

And that’s bullshit too. Armitage was ONI, then CIA, then beyond CIA before many commenters here were born. He set up office in Bangkok right after the fall of Saigon, gaining control of the most powerful Burmese warlord, Kum Sa. He’s highly knowledgeable about the transfer of CIA drug money laundering operations from Bangkok to Panama City in the early 1980s. He’s spent a lot of time in the same underworld as Brewster-Jennings operated in. The possibiity of him not knowing a lot of what Valerie Plame was up to in her operations is very, very dim.

its been written about widely that armitage was a known gossip – thats why they included him in the leak. they knew he would do the work w/out being given the mission.

LS @ 66

LS @ 63

Ding!

Nevermind…

Get Libby in to talk about Rich and other matters….that he can’t claim the 5th on?

Can he continue to use his legal defense fund money if he’s called in? Keep them bang up attorneys he hired?

Loo Hoo. @ 93

LS @ 66

Nevermind…

Get Libby in to talk about Rich and other matters….that he can’t claim the 5th on?

Can he continue to use his legal defense fund money if he’s called in? Keep them bang up attorneys he hired?

He’s loaded…probably because he defended Rich.

Educated Plaintiff @ 92

its been written about widely that armitage was a known gossip – thats why they included him in the leak. they knew he would do the work w/out being given the mission.

No doubt part of Armitage’s longstanding NOC legend…

wgg: tokin lib’rul @ 71

Lieberman’s the mole.
he was planted by the Bush folks from the very first instance.
Don’t forget, Conn. is the home-grounds for the Bushes: Granpa Prescott was Sen from there while he was trying to stabilize the finances of Hitler and the nazis.
Until Lamont, NoMoJo’s opponents were a collection of remarkably feckless nobodies, never particularly ringingly endorsed by the Conn GOPukes. They fixed it so HoJo would win easily.
over & over
.

Excellent point.

Let the Republicans howl at Hill and Bill all they want. The judge’s lifted the injunction on the DC Madam’s phone records!

I am thinking that Dana Milbank is a stealth neo-con. Keith should get April Ryan instead.

Educated Plaintiff @ 92

Ed*ard Teller @ 77

And that’s bullshit too. Armitage was ONI, then CIA, then beyond CIA before many commenters here were born. He set up office in Bangkok right after the fall of Saigon, gaining control of the most powerful Burmese warlord, Kum Sa. He’s highly knowledgeable about the transfer of CIA drug money laundering operations from Bangkok to Panama City in the early 1980s. He’s spent a lot of time in the same underworld as Brewster-Jennings operated in. The possibiity of him not knowing a lot of what Valerie Plame was up to in her operations is very, very dim.

its been written about widely that armitage was a known gossip – thats why they included him in the leak. they knew he would do the work w/out being given the mission.

Was it widely written about him that he was a gossip prior to the leak, or did the Admin label him as a “gossip” to cover up that they had told him to leak as retaliation for not being behind the war?

wgg: tokin lib’rul @ 71

Lieberman’s the mole.
he was planted by the Bush folks from the very first instance.
Don’t forget, Conn. is the home-grounds for the Bushes: Granpa Prescott was Sen from there while he was trying to stabilize the finances of Hitler and the nazis.
Until Lamont, NoMoJo’s opponents were a collection of remarkably feckless nobodies, never particularly ringingly endorsed by the Conn GOPukes. They fixed it so HoJo would win easily.
over & over
.

I don’t understand they why he is so overt in his molishness. one would think that he would get more useful information if we was more trusted as a loyal member of the Dem caucus.

Waccamaw @ 75

Question for the day:

What if the WH held a press conference and nobody came?

What? And miss the fun?

Loo Hoo. @ 96

wgg: tokin lib’rul @ 71

Lieberman’s the mole.
he was planted by the Bush folks from the very first instance.
Don’t forget, Conn. is the home-grounds for the Bushes: Granpa Prescott was Sen from there while he was trying to stabilize the finances of Hitler and the nazis.
Until Lamont, NoMoJo’s opponents were a collection of remarkably feckless nobodies, never particularly ringingly endorsed by the Conn GOPukes. They fixed it so HoJo would win easily.
over & over
.

Excellent point.

I made a point a long time ago

leiberman is a judas sheep…he leads his kind to the house of slaughter, veers off merily on his way for some more prey

Phoenix Woman @ 97

Let the Republicans howl at Hill and Bill all they want. The judge’s lifted the injunction on the DC Madam’s phone records!

thus decimating the Republican caucus to a rump affair.

Phoenix Woman @ 97

Let the Republicans howl at Hill and Bill all they want. The judge’s lifted the injunction on the DC Madam’s phone records!

whoa!

Ed*ard Teller @ 95

Educated Plaintiff @ 92

its been written about widely that armitage was a known gossip – thats why they included him in the leak. they knew he would do the work w/out being given the mission.

No doubt part of Armitage’s longstanding NOC legend…

not familiar w/ that… do tell

John Nichols blogs on thenation.com http://www.thenation.com/blogs…..pid=210216

that Il Congressman Jesse Jackson Jr., a constitutional scholar, also uses the Madison/Mason arguments that Bush’s actions justify impeachment proceedings…

Using same arguments as the ones Froomkin posted on his blog…. see #39 above

LS @ 88

He blinks like a lizard about to catch a fly. I expect the tongue to flash out momentarily…but it never does.

Who?

you guys are gonna love this from think progress

Reagan’s NSA Chief: Withdraw funds, pull out, impeach.

Gen. William Odom, the former head of the National Security Agency under President Reagan, writes that Congress should begin cutting off funds for Iraq and must force Bush to begin a withdrawal before he leaves office:

To force him to begin a withdrawal before then, the first step should be to rally the public by providing an honest and candid definition of what “supporting the troops” really means and pointing out who is and who is not supporting our troops at war. The next step should be a flat refusal to appropriate money for to be used in Iraq for anything but withdrawal operations with a clear deadline for completion.

The final step should be to put that president on notice that if ignores this legislative action and tries to extort Congress into providing funds by keeping U.S. forces in peril, impeachment proceeding will proceed in the House of Representatives. Such presidential behavior surely would constitute the “high crime” of squandering the lives of soldiers and Marines for his own personal interest.

boy, they must really hate when we use reagan against them too

At some point, only some people in the CIA knew Plame was covert. At some point, someone in the CIA revealed it to the Administration. I bet my bottom dollar it was Tenet, and he got the medal of honor for it. JMHO

LS @ 99

Educated Plaintiff @ 92

its been written about widely that armitage was a known gossip – thats why they included him in the leak. they knew he would do the work w/out being given the mission.

Was it widely written about him that he was a gossip prior to the leak, or did the Admin label him as a “gossip” to cover up that they had told him to leak as retaliation for not being behind the war?

good question – i wish i knew the answer but i don’t

Loo Hoo. @ 107

LS @ 88

He blinks like a lizard about to catch a fly. I expect the tongue to flash out momentarily…but it never does.

Who?

The lizard guy on KO – somebody Wolfe?

Loo Hoo. @ 107

LS @ 88

He blinks like a lizard about to catch a fly. I expect the tongue to flash out momentarily…but it never does.

Who?

Larry King
[oops my bad]

Phoenix Woman @ 97

Let the Republicans howl at Hill and Bill all they want. The judge’s lifted the injunction on the DC Madam’s phone records!

Hmm. Wonder how long it will take before names start surfacing.

Elliott @ 104

Phoenix Woman @ 97

Let the Republicans howl at Hill and Bill all they want. The judge’s lifted the injunction on the DC Madam’s phone records!

whoa!

Yup. And remember, she’s promised to release them all once he lifted the injunction.

She’s already taken down one Bush official. Let’s see how many more she can nail.

Elliott @ 112

Loo Hoo. @ 107

Who?

Larry King

Yeah, Larry too!! I’ll bet there are more lizard kings…OKK???

Fern @ 113

Phoenix Woman @ 97

Let the Republicans howl at Hill and Bill all they want. The judge’s lifted the injunction on the DC Madam’s phone records!

Hmm. Wonder how long it will take before names start surfacing.

Not very.

The insepient rodent of this entire domain is just as feeblle as the watchdog of eternal universalism. Where can one find the most support of doctrine unfounded? Since we have not a G.H. dubuille or even a Jonathan H. Woodson III Esquire, then how can we win our battle of decision? Simple. Reconstruct the obligatory stealth.

Phoenix Woman @ 114

Elliott @ 104

whoa!

Yup. And remember, she’s promised to release them all once he lifted the injunction.

She’s already taken down one Bush official. Let’s see how many more she can nail.

Cheney’d be nice for a start

Phoenix Woman @ 114

Elliott @ 104

whoa!

Yup. And remember, she’s promised to release them all once he lifted the injunction.

She’s already taken down one Bush official. Let’s see how many more she can nail.

Soooon…..

Fern @ 113

Phoenix Woman @ 97

Let the Republicans howl at Hill and Bill all they want. The judge’s lifted the injunction on the DC Madam’s phone records!

Hmm. Wonder how long it will take before names start surfacing.

I am still holding my breath that the cia will release some information they held over the president’s head which convinced him to initiate the investigation into the exposure of our covert assets

I think one or two more weeks and something huge gets released

huge

I can’t believe LS is being so blase about the madam

Exellent!

Elliott @ 117

Phoenix Woman @ 114

Yup. And remember, she’s promised to release them all once he lifted the injunction.

She’s already taken down one Bush official. Let’s see how many more she can nail.

Cheney’d be nice for a start

does the maddam deal in male escorts?

I am believing cheney is in teh closet

perris @ 108

you guys are gonna love this from think progress

Reagan’s NSA Chief: Withdraw funds, pull out, impeach.

Gen. William Odom, the former head of the National Security Agency under President Reagan, writes that Congress should begin cutting off funds for Iraq and must force Bush to begin a withdrawal before he leaves office:

To force him to begin a withdrawal before then, the first step should be to rally the public by providing an honest and candid definition of what “supporting the troops” really means and pointing out who is and who is not supporting our troops at war. The next step should be a flat refusal to appropriate money for to be used in Iraq for anything but withdrawal operations with a clear deadline for completion.

The final step should be to put that president on notice that if ignores this legislative action and tries to extort Congress into providing funds by keeping U.S. forces in peril, impeachment proceeding will proceed in the House of Representatives. Such presidential behavior surely would constitute the “high crime” of squandering the lives of soldiers and Marines for his own personal interest.

boy, they must really hate when we use reagan against them too

YES!!! perris, you made my day!

Educated Plaintiff @ 105

Ed*ard Teller @ 95

No doubt part of Armitage’s longstanding NOC legend…

not familiar w/ that… do tell

I’ve been following Armitage since 1984, when this guy told me about his experiences with Armitage in SE Asia. My friend hated Armitage and hated the deals that Armitage and others – some of whom are still around – were making out of Saigon and Bangkok in the 70s. My friend was a drug counselor at the time, and despised heroin intensely. At the time of his death – note how he died, in the wiki article linked above – my friend was in a series of interviews about illegal activities of various people affiliated with Armitage in SE Asia and Central America. The interviews were never concluded, the article never published.

Blub @ 42

How did Thompson get into show-business anyway?

The show biz types thought he projected and photographed well during the H2Ogate hearings.

oh yeah!

perris @ 119

Fern @ 113

Hmm. Wonder how long it will take before names start surfacing.

I am still holding my breath that the cia will release some information they held over the president’s head which convinced him to initiate the investigation into the exposure of our covert assets

I think one or two more weeks and something huge gets released

huge

She’d better act fast, before one of the tons of new lawyers hired at the WH think of a way to stop her. Go Madam! Go Madam!!

LS @ 109

At some point, only some people in the CIA knew Plame was covert. At some point, someone in the CIA revealed it to the Administration. I bet my bottom dollar it was Tenet, and he got the medal of honor for it. JMHO

Be reasonable, LS. If he did that he would have put it in his book. **

Elliott @ 120

I can’t believe LS is being so blase about the madam

I don’t do blase…;>

LS @ 111

Loo Hoo. @ 107

Who?

The lizard guy on KO – somebody Wolfe?

Richard. He must have a contract. He shows about as much emotion as a lizard too.

Loo Hoo. @ 127

LS @ 109

At some point, only some people in the CIA knew Plame was covert. At some point, someone in the CIA revealed it to the Administration. I bet my bottom dollar it was Tenet, and he got the medal of honor for it. JMHO

Oh yeah, I hadn’t thought of that!! Shucks….kicks a stone around….

Be reasonable, LS. If he did that he would have put it in his book. **

see all later, some bussiness to attend

I think when the phone lists come out, I’d also like to see gannon/guckert speak up about his affairs with the shrub…

I bet that many of the clients of the madam are masked because the person that hires them are lobbyists.

Someone at TPM pointed this out and I have to agree.

This still might be embarassing…hopefully.

Ed*ard Teller @ 123

At the time of his death – note how he died, in the wiki article linked above – my friend was in a series of interviews about illegal activities of various people affiliated with Armitage in SE Asia and Central America. The interviews were never concluded, the article never published.

Fern @ 113

Phoenix Woman @ 97

Let the Republicans howl at Hill and Bill all they want. The judge’s lifted the injunction on the DC Madam’s phone records!

Hmm. Wonder how long it will take before names start surfacing.

And what blogger will get them? ***G***

LS @ 127

Elliott @ 120

I can’t believe LS is being so blase about the madam

I don’t do blase…;>

I was having a hard time picturing it ;)

has everyone seen the cashiers check that paid libby’s fine?

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19617734/

drawn on the bank of america.

telling.

Odom has been calling for a withdrawal from Iraq since 2004.

Elliott @ 120

I can’t believe LS is being so blase about the madam

She said soon, not so, Elliot.

Educated Plaintiff @ 138

has everyone seen the cashiers check that paid libby’s fine?

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19617734/

drawn on the bank of america.

telling.

Telling in what way?

OldCoastie @ 132

I think when the phone lists come out, I’d also like to see gannon/guckert speak up about his affairs with the shrub…

Maybe they were running the brotheren..I mean brothelren..right out of Rove’s shop to b.l.a.c.k.m.a.i.l. the rubberstamp congress….huh?

You have reached DC Madam, Inc., we’re not here at the moment, leave your name and number, and we’ll get right back at..I mean to you. You can also reach us at our email address…GWB43.com.

AnnieW @ 134

I bet that many of the clients of the madam are masked because the person that hires them are lobbyists.

Someone at TPM pointed this out and I have to agree.

This still might be embarassing…hopefully.

If the records show a lot of transactions by a lobbyist, then look at that lobbyist’s clients.

Dang, ET, what a way to die. Foolproof, though.

AnnieW @ 133

I bet that many of the clients of the madam are masked because the person that hires them are lobbyists.

Someone at TPM pointed this out and I have to agree.

This still might be embarassing…hopefully.

Kinda like…Jack!

Loo Hoo. @ 136

Fern @ 113

Hmm. Wonder how long it will take before names start surfacing.

And what blogger will get them? ***G***

Who wants to embarass the Mouse most?

O/T in my own post, but I had this observation to make:

In light of all the press noise about Al Gore’s son being nailed for DUI, I thought I’d bring up the fact that the Bush Twins were asked to leave Argentina last year because of various messes they’d got in – and the US press didn’t give anywhere near the coverage Gore’s son’s getting.

LS @ 126

perris @ 119

I am still holding my breath that the cia will release some information they held over the president’s head which convinced him to initiate the investigation into the exposure of our covert assets

I think one or two more weeks and something huge gets released

huge

She’d better act fast, before one of the tons of new lawyers hired at the WH think of a way to stop her. Go Madam! Go Madam!!

She has offered them to news folk and bloggers to sift through

Loo Hoo. @ 146

Dang, ET, what a way to die. Foolproof, though.

He was one of the coolest people I ever knew, let alone worked with.

Phoenix Woman @ 149

O/T in my own post, but I had this observation to make:

In light of all the press noise about Al Gore’s son being nailed for DUI, I thought I’d bring up the fact that the Bush Twins were asked to leave Argentina last year because of various messes they’d got in – and the US press didn’t give anywhere near the coverage Gore’s son’s getting.

I never heard about that, PW.
IOKIYA a Bush

Here’s the Amazon review of Thompson’s book.

Big Mitch @ 9

Today, Tony Snow responding to criticism from the Clintons about the Scooter commutation thus:

“I don’t know what is Arkansan for chutzpah [1] but this is a gigantic case of it.”

We have reached a sad time when goyishe [2] Tony Snow is speaking Yiddish from the White House. Don’t we Jews have enough tsouris?[3]

Apparently, in this latest iteration of the “Bill Clinton did it, too” excuse, the White House is seeking to evoke the recollection of the Mark Rich pardon. Gay gezinteh heit. Chub a gutten yur. [4]

On Bill Clinton’s last day in office, he pardoned a refugee from the Nazis, Mark Rich, M.O.T., [5] a financier and philanthropist who had been falsely accused of tax evasion by Rudy Giuliani.

I say falsely accused because such is the opinion of U.S. tax professors Bernard Wolfman of Harvard Law School and Martin Ginsburg of Georgetown University Law Center. It was also the opinion of a panel of distinguished Republican lawyers including I. Lewis ‘Scooter’ Libby. Be that as it may, these kinds of disputes are not unusual, and they are normally resolved in civil suits.

In the Republican orgy of recriminations against the Clinton administration that was the hallmark of the early days of the Bush administration, it was alleged that President Clinton pardoned Rich in return for favors paid to him. Indeed, the Prime Minister of Israel, Ehud Barak, who had worked so hard with President Clinton to secure a lasting resolution to the Israeli-Palestinian problem, had made a clemency plea on behalf of Rich, as had numerous other Israeli officials.

Grasping at straws, Clinton-haters pointed out that Rich’s former wife and the mother of his three children, socialite Denise Rich, had made large donations to the Democratic Party and the Clinton Library during Clinton’s time in office. A Federal Prosecutor was appointed to investigate whether or not a crime was committed by Clinton’s exercise of the plenary pardon power. The conclusion arrived at by James Comey, who was to later become the Acting Attorney General under George W. Bush, was that there were no grounds to present to a Grand Jury.

Nobody, not even the most rabid Republicans ever suggested that the pardon of Mark Rich was a part of a conspiracy to protect members of the administration. Never was it suggested that Bill Clinton had a political motive for his decision to right a wrong committed by an over-zealous prosecutor, who now happens to be running for the Republican nomination for President.

Still want to talk about Mark Rich? Gai kakhen afenyam. [6]

“… and tell ’em Menachem Mendel [7] sent ya!”

Footnotes for the Yiddish challenged:
[1] lit. Nerve. Colloq: balls, as in “He had the chutzpah of a blind burglar.”
[2] Non-Jewish, and (when used in an otherwise English sentence) non-Jewish in a stereotypical way.
[3] troubles
[4] “Go and be healthy. Have a good year.” The equivalent to the dismissive “Knock yourself out,” you should pardon the expression.
[5] Member of the Tribe, (e.g. Rich, Libby)
[6] Go shit in the ocean.
[7] Big Mitch

Educational! And hysterical! I never expected to see Yiddish, much less annoted with footnotes, at FDL. May you live long and prosper.

Elliott @ 151

I never heard about that, PW.

Exactly. Whereas Al’s son is getting nearly as much bad press as Paris Hilton.

ccmask @ 153

Here’s the Amazon review of Thompson’s book.

fair & balanced

I *almost* feel guilty for wanting to know who is on the Madam’s list. If they weren’t such noxious moralizing hypocrites, I would wish them anonymity. Instead, I wish them the humiliation they so richly deserve.

Wow! Y’all are a feisty bunch tonight. Did some oil company exec shoot you in the face or something?

Phoenix Woman @ 149

O/T in my own post, but I had this observation to make:

In light of all the press noise about Al Gore’s son being nailed for DUI, I thought I’d bring up the fact that the Bush Twins were asked to leave Argentina last year because of various messes they’d got in – and the US press didn’t give anywhere near the coverage Gore’s son’s getting.

in light of the fact that Gore was accused of being a bad father because he did not run to his son’s side, I thought that I’d remind all of the time Jenna was having an emergency appendectomy while george played golf.

Neil Boortz WPITW for declaring that Clinton had been convicted of perjury and didn’t serve any time and continued to do so even after being corrected.

Phoenix Woman @ 157

Wow! Y’all are a feisty bunch tonight. Did some oil company exec shoot you in the face or something?

Yeah, we’re all out writing our apology to him for shooting us in the face.

JPL @ 156

Phoenix Woman @ 149

O/T in my own post, but I had this observation to make:

In light of all the press noise about Al Gore’s son being nailed for DUI, I thought I’d bring up the fact that the Bush Twins were asked to leave Argentina last year because of various messes they’d got in – and the US press didn’t give anywhere near the coverage Gore’s son’s getting.

in light of the fact that Gore was accused of being a bad father because he did not run to his son’s side, I thought that I’d remind all of the time Jenna was having an emergency appendectomy while george played golf.

Gore son is 24. I presume he can take care of himself. If he had been in a accident, sure, but Big Al does not need to come rushing to California for this.

Ed*ard Teller @ 160

Phoenix Woman @ 157

Wow! Y’all are a feisty bunch tonight. Did some oil company exec shoot you in the face or something?

Yeah, we’re all out writing our apology to him for shooting us in the face.

707!

From me, Mr. Dem, to you GOP:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v…..o&NR=1

LS @ 144

OldCoastie @ 132

I think when the phone lists come out, I’d also like to see gannon/guckert speak up about his affairs with the shrub…

Maybe they were running the brotheren..I mean brothelren..right out of Rove’s shop to b.l.a.c.k.m.a.i.l. the rubberstamp congress….huh?

You have reached DC Madam, Inc., we’re not here at the moment, leave your name and number, and we’ll get right back at..I mean to you. You can also reach us at our email address…GWB43.com.

Was the Congressional phone system, run by an Israeli company Foxcom Wireless?

Phoenix Woman @ 156

Wow! Y’all are a feisty bunch tonight. Did some oil company exec shoot you in the face or something?

I think the holiday put a bit of spark back in the lot of us, PW. *grins* We’ve been knocked down here and there–but we won’t STAY down. :D

In an interview with the The Times Herald, Palfrey states that the “White House will implode over the scandals”:

“If what I’m saying is true and this goes to the heart of the Bush administration and the corruption the last several years, then yeah, I’ll have an army behind me,” Palfrey said.

Palfrey almost didn’t have the phone records.

In what Palfrey calls an illegal search warrant last October while she was in Germany, the feds raided her historic Vallejo home, seizing assets and other items allegedly used to operate her escort

business. Palfrey still gets a kick out of the fact investigators missed the phone records, which were sitting in neatly marked file boxes in the basement, labeled by year.

“You would die if you saw how many times they walked by them sitting in full view,” she said.

It was those high-profile client names, Palfrey says, that kept investigators interested in her.

Twain @ 162, Joe, I’m not Imus, Scarborough tried that line this morning…

greenwarrior @153 For the “goyim” including moi, I recommend Michael Wex’s book “Born to Kvetch”..Yiddish has such a long history and large library of work, it would be a shame if it becomes a dead language.

JPL @ 165

Twain @ 162, Joe, I’m not Imus, Scarborough tried that line this morning…

Please explain – didn’t see Joe or anything else this morning. Thanks

cc in nm @ 39

LHP alluded to this on the last thread, but it was described in more detail on July 3 in DanFroomkin’s great post at washingtonpst.com called “Obstruction of Justice, Continued”

http://www.washingtonpost.com/…..01366.html

Here’s the part I like most in his great post:

“The Framers, ever sensitive to the need for checks and balances, recognized the potential for abuse of the pardon power. According to a Judiciary Committee report drafted in the aftermath of the Watergate crisis: “In the [Constitutional] convention George Mason argued that the President might use his pardoning power to ‘pardon crimes which were advised by himself’ or, before indictment or conviction, ‘to stop inquiry and prevent detection.’

James Madison responded:
“[I]f the President be connected, in any suspicious manner, with any person, and there be grounds [to] believe he will shelter him, the House of Representatives can impeach him; they can remove him if found guilty. . . .
“Madison went on to [say] contrary to his position in the Philadelphia convention, that the President could be suspended when suspected, and his powers would devolve on the Vice President, who could likewise be suspended until impeached and convicted, if he were also suspected.” “

My question is…. exactly how does the Congress do the suspension??? Isn’t the prospect exciting?

Madison lays out exactly how to suspend Bush and Cheney until they are impeached and convicted…

Any scholars with more details on this pls?

Might I suggest a “color” guard of disabled Iraqi vets to help escort them out?

Phoenix Woman @ 167

In an interview with the The Times Herald, Palfrey states that the “White House will implode over the scandals”:

“If what I’m saying is true and this goes to the heart of the Bush administration and the corruption the last several years, then yeah, I’ll have an army behind me,” Palfrey said.

Palfrey almost didn’t have the phone records.

In what Palfrey calls an illegal search warrant last October while she was in Germany, the feds raided her historic Vallejo home, seizing assets and other items allegedly used to operate her escort

business. Palfrey still gets a kick out of the fact investigators missed the phone records, which were sitting in neatly marked file boxes in the basement, labeled by year.

“You would die if you saw how many times they walked by them sitting in full view,” she said.

It was those high-profile client names, Palfrey says, that kept investigators interested in her.

My goodness what would we tell the children. I just hope that she turns the records over soon before they’re lost or stolen.

In what Palfrey calls an illegal search warrant last October while she was in Germany, the feds raided her historic Vallejo home, seizing assets and other items allegedly used to operate her escort

for anyone who doesn’t know, it’s pronounced Vuh-lay-ho ’round these parts.

(half-way correct version of the Spanish pronunciation of vah-yay-ho – or something like that)

JPL @ 171

this is from the Times Herald article:

The story almost came out May 4, when ABC News, which received a copy of the phone records, planned to name names.

ABC acquired the highly sought client list in mid-March, after Palfrey abandoned the idea of selling the documents.

ABC News approached Palfrey saying they couldn’t pay her for the documents, but could research them for possible defense witnesses or leads.

Palfrey was grateful.

“In return, all they wanted was exclusivity and all the records,” Palfrey said.

Palfrey and her lawyer could send ABC only 80 percent of the records, from 2002-2006.

“We did not give them all 13 years because we were in the middle of the process of giving them the information when the kids go to the judge,” said Palfrey, who refers to the 30-something federal prosecutors as “kids.”

The “kids” secured the injunction, but ABC already had most of the records, so Palfrey thought names would still emerge.

Meanwhile, Palfrey said ABC News badgered her and Sibley to keep mum.

“For the 7 1Ž2 weeks ABC had the records they baby-sat me and my attorney. They hovered over us. They wouldn’t let us out of their sight,” she said. “They were scared to death I was going to speak to you or give anyone else an exclusive interview. They were terrified of that.”

Especially, with CBS News hot on Palfrey’s tail.

When the May 4 sweeps week broadcast aired, ABC News suddenly nixed naming any client names, instead just running an interview with Palfrey.

“Within 24 hours the whole thing was whitewashed,” Palfrey said. “They had names to name and they didn’t name them.

“Who knows who got to them Š I think the powers that be at Disney (ABC’s parent company) were exerting pressure on them to kill the story and they killed it at the last minute,” she said.

Since the show aired?

“We haven’t heard from them once,” she said.

Phoenix Woman @ 157

Wow! Y’all are a feisty bunch tonight. Did some oil company exec shoot you in the face or something?

It’s just that maybe things are looking up! DC Madame somehow becomes a hero!

Elliott @ 174

JPL @ 171

this is from the Times Herald article:

The story almost came out May 4, when ABC News, which received a copy of the phone records, planned to name names.

ABC acquired the highly sought client list in mid-March, after Palfrey abandoned the idea of selling the documents.

ABC News approached Palfrey saying they couldn’t pay her for the documents, but could research them for possible defense witnesses or leads.

Palfrey was grateful.

“In return, all they wanted was exclusivity and all the records,” Palfrey said.

Palfrey and her lawyer could send ABC only 80 percent of the records, from 2002-2006.

“We did not give them all 13 years because we were in the middle of the process of giving them the information when the kids go to the judge,” said Palfrey, who refers to the 30-something federal prosecutors as “kids.”

The “kids” secured the injunction, but ABC already had most of the records, so Palfrey thought names would still emerge.

Meanwhile, Palfrey said ABC News badgered her and Sibley to keep mum.

“For the 7 1Ž2 weeks ABC had the records they baby-sat me and my attorney. They hovered over us. They wouldn’t let us out of their sight,” she said. “They were scared to death I was going to speak to you or give anyone else an exclusive interview. They were terrified of that.”

Especially, with CBS News hot on Palfrey’s tail.

When the May 4 sweeps week broadcast aired, ABC News suddenly nixed naming any client names, instead just running an interview with Palfrey.

“Within 24 hours the whole thing was whitewashed,” Palfrey said. “They had names to name and they didn’t name them.

“Who knows who got to them Š I think the powers that be at Disney (ABC’s parent company) were exerting pressure on them to kill the story and they killed it at the last minute,” she said.

Since the show aired?

“We haven’t heard from them once,” she said.

Mouse with egg on its face will make the Eye quite happy.

Gore is responsible for his son doing drugs, carrying drugs in his car, and driving 100 miles per hour on the freeway. BTW, did they read him his Miranda rights? No? Okay…hmmm…D’ya think he’ll have the benefits of Habeas Corpus? Was anybody following him? Okay.

Yeah, right. Oh, and maybe his daughters are doing the same thing..oh..yeah…Gore is a bad, bad man, and a bad, bad father…Bad Gore, Bad gore…

On the otherhand, W hisself is perrrrrrfect. Ask any Iraqi mom or dad will testify or get tortured… Yeah…uh, huh….

Clinton…yeah, bad, bad, bad, bad, man. Bad Hillary too for being married to the man who pardoned the man that Libby represented.

Fred Thompson was a mole during Watergate.
W…well he was all over everything and more.
Cheney..what can you say…
Armitage…the leaker…a gossip..
Libby…a noble hero.
Whatever happened to Rice? Oh, yeah, Bush my husband.

Gimme a break will ya.

Elliott @ 155

ccmask @ 153

Here’s the Amazon review of Thompson’s book.

fair & balanced

Book reviews at amazon.com are not worth the paper they’re printed on.

MSNBC has Kris Koback on, who is an evil neo-con pig. I am guessing he may be involved with some of Gonzo’s abuses.

Twain @ 170

JPL @ 165

Twain @ 162, Joe, I’m not Imus, Scarborough tried that line this morning…

Please explain – didn’t see Joe or anything else this morning. Thanks

FDL bloggers were reporting that Joe S. was bemoaning the fact that Gore could just go on with his schedule,when is child having problems. I don’t have MSNBC on my cable so I’m just repeating what the early morning pups were blogging. He forgot to mention Bush and his “children”.

JPL @ 177

Twain @ 170

Please explain – didn’t see Joe or anything else this morning. Thanks

FDL bloggers were reporting that Joe S. was bemoaning the fact that Gore could just go on with his schedule,when is child having problems. I don’t have MSNBC on my cable so I’m just repeating what the early morning pups were blogging. He forgot to mention Bush and his “children”.

Thanks. Joe is an idiot !

Gore’s child is 24

Loo Hoo. @ 174

Phoenix Woman @ 157

Wow! Y’all are a feisty bunch tonight. Did some oil company exec shoot you in the face or something?

It’s just that maybe things are looking up! DC Madame somehow becomes a hero!

Does anyone else besides me see something in common between Ms. Palfrey and the protagonist in “V?”

punaise @ 172

In what Palfrey calls an illegal search warrant last October while she was in Germany, the feds raided her historic Vallejo home, seizing assets and other items allegedly used to operate her escort

for anyone who doesn’t know, it’s pronounced Vuh-lay-ho ’round these parts.

(half-way correct version of the Spanish pronunciation of vah-yay-ho – or something like that)

Like Val-DEEZ, Alaska?

What’s going with Al Gore’s son is a Gore family matter. It is not my business, no matter what the GOP, or for that matter, anyone else says.

Ed*ard Teller @ 183

punaise @ 172

for anyone who doesn’t know, it’s pronounced Vuh-lay-ho ’round these parts.

(half-way correct version of the Spanish pronunciation of vah-yay-ho – or something like that)

Like Val-DEEZ, Alaska?

Or like Ver-SAIL-es, KY (instead of Ver-sigh)

JPL @ 179

Twain @ 170

Please explain – didn’t see Joe or anything else this morning. Thanks

FDL bloggers were reporting that Joe S. was bemoaning the fact that Gore could just go on with his schedule,when is child having problems. I don’t have MSNBC on my cable so I’m just repeating what the early morning pups were blogging. He forgot to mention Bush and his “children”.

He is not very smart.

If you notice, about 6 weeks ago a lot of people started replacing other people in the MSM media, and the replacements are all towing the line for the neocons.

The American people don’t drink the koolaid anymore, only a scant few, and they are diminishing. The big challenge will be voter fraud in ‘08. They will not leave quietly.

punaise @ 103

Phoenix Woman @ 97

Let the Republicans howl at Hill and Bill all they want. The judge’s lifted the injunction on the DC Madam’s phone records!

thus decimating the Republican caucus to a rump affair.

are you reminding us of foley?

dreamcatcher @ 182

Does anyone else besides me see something in common between Ms. Palfrey and the protagonist in “V?”

She probably wore masks a lot in her work as a domme. And while she won’t be blowing up the Houses of Parliament to take down a bunch of rotten pseudo-Christian fascists, she’ll be doing the moral equivalent thereof right here.

Don’t cry for me, Scooter Libby.

http://thenexthurrah.typepad.com/the_next_hurrah/

I remain supportive of my Speaker.

Phoenix Woman @ 157

Wow! Y’all are a feisty bunch tonight. Did some oil company exec shoot you in the face or something?

Actually, if you look at the last 8 pics here, that’s what I’m doing. Yum!

new thread by Jane upstairs

Scarborough and whoever that LA guy is were knocking global warming big time this morning and were having some psuedo-scientist on soon so I promptly switched to C-Span because it was just too damn early to get that pissed off .

Steve @ 168

greenwarrior @153 For the “goyim” including moi, I recommend Michael Wex’s book “Born to Kvetch”..Yiddish has such a long history and large library of work, it would be a shame if it becomes a dead language.

hi steve,
ianag

Steve @ 168

greenwarrior @153 For the “goyim” including moi, I recommend Michael Wex’s book “Born to Kvetch”..Yiddish has such a long history and large library of work, it would be a shame if it becomes a dead language.

I heard a lot of Yiddish from friend’s parents when I was growing up, and from my (ex) in-laws. It’s really pretty simple. When they start speaking Yiddish, somebody is being insulted. Very humorously and scandalously. A rich (in the sense of fertilizer) langauge.

Loo Hoo. @ 189

Don’t cry for me, Scooter Libby.

http://thenexthurrah.typepad.com/the_next_hurrah/

don’t cry for me:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DdD3MUFKleQ

pw at 149

the bush twins link you gave led to abc news site, but no article appeared for me.

was a blank page with logo and menu at the top with a dark background, no article.

wonder where it went. tried twice.

dakine01 @ 185

Ed*ard Teller @ 183

Like Val-DEEZ, Alaska?

Or like Ver-SAIL-es, KY (instead of Ver-sigh)

And Callus (instead of cal-ay or Calais) Maine.

GordonM @ 195

Steve @ 168

greenwarrior @153 For the “goyim” including moi, I recommend Michael Wex’s book “Born to Kvetch”..Yiddish has such a long history and large library of work, it would be a shame if it becomes a dead language.

I heard a lot of Yiddish from friend’s parents when I was growing up, and from my (ex) in-laws. It’s really pretty simple. When they start speaking Yiddish, somebody is being insulted. Very humorously and scandalously. A rich (in the sense of fertilizer) langauge.

Delightfully so!

dakine01 @ 185

Ed*ard Teller @ 183

Like Val-DEEZ, Alaska?

Or like Ver-SAIL-es, KY (instead of Ver-sigh)

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Don’t forget the two Alabama towns, AAY-rab (instead of Arab) and Lah-FATE (instead of Lafayette)…

Espionage seems to be the recurring character among the varied dramatis personae and scenarios.