Bush's decision to commute Libby's sentence came shortly after I read this fascinating WaPo story about Bush and his bubble (which both Christy and I have already covered separately). In addition to thinking about all the most likely reasons for the commutation - obstruction of justice, taking care of a loyal soldier, sending the very important message that it's okay to break the law on behalf of a Republican president - I found myself wondering if Bush even realized that his decision would not be popular outside of Crazy Base Land. After all, who's going to tell him otherwise?
I started thinking about bubbles some more, and realized that the bubble is actually much larger than just the White House. The fact is that there is a giant bubble machine called the media, which insisted that not only was the Libby trial a partisan Democratic witch hunt that could only be remedied by a pardon, but that most Americans felt the same way. Similarly, on issues like abortion and gay marriage and withdrawal from Iraq, the mainstream corporate media keeps pretending that the Republican positions are mainstream positions.
This is something that I have long regarded as a serious threat to our democratic system, but I'm beginning to think that media corruption cuts both ways. Yes, the media's Republican bias is still very dangerous on matters of fact (i.e., not questioning election irregularities or the case for war with Iraq), but it just doesn't have quite the same effect on matters of opinion. Sure, they can say that most Americans are the anti-choice bloodthirsty homophobes the GOP wants them to be, but that doesn't actually turn anyone into an anti-choice bloodthirsty homophobe who isn't one already - anyone that suggestible is probably a Republican anyway.
But you know who really does eat that shit up? The Republican Party. Not just Bush, but all of them. I think they've actually started to believe their own media's hype; that despite all the polls that say otherwise, they are somehow following the will of the American people. How else to explain their steadfast support for Scooter and neverending war, or their steely opposition to choice or immigration reform? It's like they're following their own Pied Piper into the river of electoral oblivion, and I encourage them to continue.
The only problem is, the Democratic Party is watching the same media. I reckon at least half of them are inside the same media bubble as the Republicans. That's why we liberals have to be such pricks.
(And just because I know we're going to be talking about it anyway: KEITH! - hat tip Oklahoma kiddo for the video link)
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Fitz!
What was that you zed, again?
Dan Abrams’ “My Take” on the commutation was excellent, too…
KO leaves tears in my eyes…
Keith was on fire tonight, and now even Dan Abrams is hitting Chimpy.
msauna @ 2
So close, yet so far…
I literally stood up and applauded after KO’s special comment. God bless him and God bless America. This is appearing to be a very dark Independence Day indeed.
Are we going to be celebrating August 9th as the anniversary of Nixon’s resignation?
The river is denial & not the one in Egypt.
Ah. When the jWheel of Doom goes on forever, there’s a new thread up top.
Eli @ 8
If only to yearn for his common sense to resign before being impeached, something this imbecilic President and spineless Congress will probably never encounter.
Keith Olbermann for President!
You know… some have called me a “prick” for my views on politics, and well… can you just imagine how that hurts my feelings?
Elizabeth Holtzman is kicking some ass, too. I remember rooting for her against D’Amato back in 1980.
MSNBC tv banner: congress to investigate president’s decision to grant scooter libby’s clemency
I just emailed MSNBC. High-fives for KO, Shuster, and Abrams’ SC follow-up. Raspberries for Tucker.
Did anyone else hear Tweety tonight, trying to make it sound like the hypocrisy cuts both ways?
I hate Tweety.
twolf1 @ 15
Cool! What exactly does “investigate” mean here, though? Are they going to put him under hypnosis?
With all due respect, I have ZERO confidence in Congress to do anything but masturbate.
They, too, are all in the pockets of Saudi Oil.
Nothing will change.
KO basical called for impeaching Bush and Cheney and asked them to have the honor of Nixon and resign to save the country the trauma. I almost fell out of my chair. He was on fire! If he has anything to do with it this is not going to be swept under the rug in a week.
Let’s hope Conyers has his shit together next week.
Riesz Fischer @ 17
David Brooks pulled the same shit in his column today.
Riesz Fischer @ 17
We’ll all be better off when we read his obituary.
Eli, just love “reBubblicans” …
realworld @ 20
After the half-assed job he did on Goodling, I can’t say I’m super-optimistic…
Blackford @ 19
You may be giving them too much credit.
I watched Tweety tonight, even if you disagree with him, he’s no David Brooks.
lee5 @ 23
Thanks! I also like to occasionally use “ReDubyacans”.
I wish Keith wouldn’t go past 9. The Tivo cut out right before his grand finale. Good thing it’s on again at midnight.
Keith, You. Are. A. God.
Eli @ 18
It means get ready for some non-binding resolutions that don’t pass congress?
Eli @ 24
yeah, Conyers definitely doesn’t perform at Leahy levels, but he may be laying a lot of groundwork for later …
Eli @ 14
She and Bob Abrams and Geraldine Ferraro beat each other up during the primary in ‘94 and allowed the Phonz to squeak out another win. Unfortunately.
Eli @ 21
That’s all they’ve got.
twolf1 @ 29
What we *really* need is a strongly-worded letter to show Dubya who’s boss.
Olbermans special comment was brilliant but Bush Crossed the Rubicon on 9/11 and most Americans are pretending they don’t know that.
imho, KO is a journalist, in the tradition of Uncle Walter. He has repeatedly spoken truth to power, and is currently my sole shred of trust in the media today.
May God bless him, and keep him safe as he continues his crusade.
dakine01 @ 31
Didn’t someone (Javits?) run as an independent and split the Dem vote, or am I thinking of some other Senate election tragedy?
Eli @ 33
nah, vice-for-life cheney already gave Dear Leader that letter and then classified it. v-f-l’s got it locked away in one of his super-secret safes …
AnnieW @ 26
I agree, Tweety didn’t cut any slack tonite! I had a different take on Tweety’s performance tonite, than, Riesz’s!!!
Lieberjavits.
-GSD
GSD @ 39
Except he was a liberal Republican instead of a conservative Democrat. He was probably several degrees to the left of Joe.
i hope keith’s and dan’s comments fires up the dems as i’m fired up…had to compose myself after that!! truly keith is my god right now - i know of no one else on tv with his cajones.. gotta love him
AnnieW @ 26
He’s infinitely worse than Brooks.
What do you mean disagree with him? How can you disagree with Tweety? Seriously, he rarely takes a stand that one could disagree with, he just wants to keep both sides of the argument going. He makes it sound like it’s unclear who’s right, we can never know for sure so just keep arguing. He just disrupts the discourse and makes sure nothing gets decided one way or the other.
I seriously hate that fucker.
I still say that Bush must have had his puckered ass handed to him by Putin.
I am tired of the Bush Family Evil Empire.
-GSD
motherlowman @ 16
I e-mailed Countdown as well. It is a sad commentary on the press when KO’s patriotism and dedication are the exception rather than the rule.
Conyers-Leahy Response to Fielding The USA scandal isn’t going to get swept under the rug either. Looks to me like they are setting up for contempt of congress July 9 or thereabouts.
When they do, I think they should skip the courts and go right to impeachment. That really is the route the framers envisioned. (Smart folks those framers.)
epu’d
tw3k at 67 says:
“gah, i go back to ’stuff’ now, just pisses me the f?ck off.”
make some art……..
Eli @ 33
Snark aside, what we REALLY need is to take it to the Republicans and make it hurt.
We need to be holding protests in front of their offices at home every damned day until they catch a clue.
We need to be holding protests every day, surrounding television stations with biggest market share, with signs protesting Republican’s corrupt complicity with Bush and Cheney.
It’s time to change tactics and make it hurt the ones who need to change the most.
Tell me where there’s gonna be a protest in Texas and I will go there.
Dan Abrams just let the “Armitage was the leaker” and that “Congress found Joe Wilson’s report to be false” slide through uncontested.
Dear Dan: While I applaud your giving Olbermann his free reins. and your own disgust with the clemency - please get a grip of the basic facts yourself, and/or keep David Schuster on standy at all times to knock this crap down. Thanks.
Eli @ 8
Oh, hell yeah. That is a great idea. Celebrate Corrupt President Resignation Day. Have a parade. Invite Bush to be the Grand Marshal.
realworld @ 45
You know, I used to think of “contempt” in this kind of context as basically just a legal term, but in BushCo’s case, it really *is* contempt.
I think what you’re getting at in your post is what we are witnessing is the actions of a cult.
Eli @ 52
LOL
cleter @ 50
I checked my calendar, and alas, I am not posting here on that date. I’ll have to put someone up to it…
Riesz Fischer @ 41
Dude! I don’t like defending Tweety, but, he is not a Koolaid drinker on a par with Brooks!!!
jayt @ 49
I think what Abrams opted to do, rather than get sucked into “he said, she said” (which further confuses the public), is change the subject in the direction he chose. It wasn’t pretty, but he shut Kobach up. I’m more bothered that he didn’t put a tighter rein on Kobach to prevent him from talking over Holtzman.
Rayne @ 47
Exactly, no more whining. Focus all this energy on something that might make a difference.
Riesz Fischer @ 41
Pardon my ignorance, but no one at this site considers Matthews a journalist, do they?
I mean, the guy’s an entertainer, entertaining himself and others who listen to the nonsense he spews.
Please, don’t label him a journalist (not that there are many left).
OK, did anyone else get ill at the Thompson, Romney, and Giuliani reponses to this?
I did.
Please direct your appreciation to Keith Olbermann at:
kolbermann@msnbc.com, feedback@msnbc.com, letters@msnbc.com, dabrams@msnbc.com,
Could be that the Republican hacks are still eating a mile of that crap to see where it comes from, but ordinary old-time Republicans apparently aren’t. A few months back, I overheard one of the grandmas at church reading to a child. This woman who I’d be willing to bet has never voted for a Democrat in her entire life read some sort of aimed-at-very-young-children sentence about how we live in a democracy and then said to herself, “actually, I’m beginning to think we live in a dictatorship.” I nearly fell over sideways.
pro choice lib @ 52
I was thinking more in terms of a self-reinforcing echo chamber, especially among the Republican power structure. But among the 25-percenters, I think maybe we really *are* looking at a cult.
CTuttle @ 55
No, Tweety has become a master at stoking which ever fire he can get the most flame out of to shine a light on himself.
He’s not a koolaid drinker he’s a narcissist with a teevee show to showcase himself.
CTuttle @ 55
I agree– Tweety’s not a partisan, he’s just a screaming monkey jumping around, causing confusion and preventing any meaningful discussion. And he’s got a prime time news show to do it from. He does much more damage to our national discourse than people like David Brooks.
To say to this life long Democrat that I appear displeased with my party would be an unsult. I am utterly disgusted with the Democratic party and in particular a couple of the front running candidates for the nomination for the presidency. What’s been going on the last day or so; my party should be all over it.
Eli @ 62
You’re on to something. It’s called the cult of fear. People whose primary motivations come from fear, not love.
LBrowne @ 61
I think that’s what’s happening. The media is telling the American people what they think, but they’re wrong - the American people’s core values are what they are, and the media can’t really change them that much.
But the Republicans are apparently watching the media to keep their finger on the pulse of Americans’ core values…
RevDeb at 63– great minds…
I’m scared.
Here’s a piece from the Cato Institute with which I largely agree: Commute THESE Sentences, Mr. President
boxer @ 66
I think you’re being unfair. Some of them are motivated by hate!
Riesz Fischer @ 68
yep. We’re part of the FDL cult of great minds. Just look around. We are surrounded.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 65
OKK, serious question (for once no snark). You’re consistent in your attachment to the dem party. I’m just wondering why? Have you seen something more of them (perhaps locally) than I have? In general, I figure they’re more likely to be somewhat better than the bubblicans, but sure looks to me like the heart and soul of that party got sold long ago. Or am I missing something more?
now, if Phil Chase were running, maybe I could get behind ‘em …
Phoenix Woman @ 69
What’s scarier, PW - the sentences, or agreeing with the Cato institute?
OK@65…
Hillary doesn’t dare be all over it, since that just sets up the Clinton-did-it-too faction for a shouting match. Obama, on the other hand, needs to be all over it, loud and proud. So do Harry and Nancy, over it and on record. If I can catch my congresscritter at the downtown festivities tomorrow, I will corner him and ask hard questions. Not that I’ll get answers, but at least I’ll ask.
Keith was excellent. Was this the same Elizabeth Holtzman who wrote this Bush Seeks Immunity
I doubt they’ll resign and Impeachment hearings should start immediately. I really like the part someone mentioned on the last thread about suspending there powers so they can’t grant any pardons.
Eli @ 70
Hate comes from fear. Everything negative comes from fear - think about it.
pro choice lib @ 52
I know we shouldn’t over-comment on peoples’ physical attributes, but I simply must point out the attractiveness of the distaff side of their cult: O’Beirne, Coulter, Malkkkin, and La Morgan.
Lovelies all.
I strongly urge the Speaker of the House to begin impeachment hearings immediately against Vice President Richard Cheney.
Tiny bubbles (tiny bubbles)
In the whine (in the whine)
Make me happy (make me happy)
Make me feel fine (make me feel fine)
in never dawned on that ho’ to do the right thing.
i live in a backwater………not repressive, but in its own time zone…..we have organic farmers, we have liberal guerillas, as i call them, who replaced yuppies, but in my opinion they are just as distasteful……..we have farmers, we have university bullocks……..each are in their own bubble……how do the ‘twain’ meet……..they don’t……….
i am in many circles around here, and politics just doesn’t enter into the conversation……..so, i go about it in other ways…..by having human contacts, bonds, i’m hoping that it rubs off, that they know i am a democrat, and that my opinion influences them when i talk about herb recipes………
therein lies the dillemma……..a bubble exists…….how do we enter it without popping it?
when i was in junior high, i had to go to a work camp at a methodist settlement in kentucky……very poor area…..i learned a lot……the minister there told us that each human being had a 17 inch bubble around them, and that we were to have contact with another human being without popping their bubble………how to do that…….i never forgot it, and have always respected the poppable 17 inch bubble of another person………
eli, your post reminded me of that, hadn’t thought about it in years.
boxer @ 77
That’s a good point. What I fear is there are enough sleepwalking sheeple who will vote for a repuke because they’ll “kick ass.”
So I hate republicans with the heat of a billion white-hot suns.
George A. @ 75
Yes.
SnarKassandra @ 48
Wish I could do that. I think we bloggers are going to have to come to an agreement about the kind of sustained statement we need to make to protest both this commutation and the larger issue of rejecting this administration.
Personally I have always been proud of the efforts of Las Madres de la Plaza de Mayo (Madres de los Desperacidos). They have been extremely effective, more so than the squirrely disorganized clownery we see in protests here in the U.S.
(I cannot help but think of Cindy Sheehan when I think of Las Madres.)
lee5 @ 72
You appear to be missing nothing. I am addicted to hope. Hope for my party, and much more importantly, hope for our country. ;0)
punaise @ 79
uke got that right
Oklahoma kiddo @ 83
hope, hope is good, that’s something I can get behind. thx!
Rayne @ 82
I heard briefly on Rachel’s show tonight that Cindy is so pissed off about this that she’s back in the fight. No surprise there.
OT Reuters is reporting that the deaths of private contractors has now hit 1000.
A provacitive idea and one that I’ve held for some time in this way.
Thesis: All societies must have accurate information about the environment they function in. From Chimpanzees to the Pharaohs to us if the society has no way to tell it’s members what truly is fact and what is in fact not true then….
That society dies.
Ours is an energetic and still vibrant one and the corporatist media’s failure to accurately inform the citizenry is clearly perceived by that same citizenry. This is why polls show ‘folks’ don’t trust the media; not because they are stupid but rather because they have learned over time that the corporatist media lies.
All the damn time.
This is where we come in. FDL pioneered, in some respects, fact based political coverage in the blosphere with the work of Jane, Spazeboy and many, many others on the LiarMann re-election.
Many millions, yes millions, of folks are coming online looking for information they can trust about what the fuck is happening in this nation. They know they aren’t getting it from John Roberts, check his ‘interview’ with Joe Wilson on C&L posted today, when they come here and to C&L and The Huffington Post and Orcinus and The News Blog (now reborn) and the many other news related blogs they are recognizing the truth. The do that when the see it as Thomas Jefferson was so confident that they would. The idea that we the people are too stupid to govern ourselves is a ReThuglican meme. And it is a lie. Perhaps their most damaging lie. Certainly is an old enough one going back to Plato as it does.
As for Bush and his backers here is where I am starting from.
He is going ‘under the bus’ soon as the conservatives will throw him there in self-defense. We must be ready to point to where the root of the resurgent American Fascist movement he has led lies.
These are the same folks who opposed transformation of our nation FDR engineered into what the Founders had in mind although they didn’t know it at the time. If you study his time you will find some of the same family names we see now trying to undo what he, with the backing of the citizenry, achieved.
In the heart of the ‘conservative’ movement founded and funded by the uber-rich and their sycophants si to be found the rot and corruption which has sickened our nation.
Only the clear light of an informed fourth estate can destroy that rot.
We are that fourth estate.
Turn on the floodlights.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 78
I heartily concur with my esteemed colleague from Oklahoma.
twolf1 @ 15
Yes, the House Judiciary Committee holding hearings, I believe. It seems to me this is like sitting down for discussion when the house is on fire. Also, Conyers is against impeachment so I don’t know if this is the same Conyers anymore.
teevee is a ratings game- it’s the only thing that matters- teevee people who don’t get ratings become ex-teevee people…
Abrams was a gooper hack when he had his own show- although he mostly did the missing white woman number- now that there’s a market for anti gooper shows- he’s encouraging em. Tweety works both sides hard. Olberman has found a good niche with US- Orally just does the wingnuts- all the same game- just different strategies.
The only parts of ‘V for Vendetta’ that did not depress me were scenes of ordinary people watching the official propaganda TV news broadcasts with looks of disgust and disbelief and grim amusement. That might have started to happen with our bigshot media. I hope so. Maybe they should keep up the catapulting, as long as they do it badly. Why do the corporate medis persist with the dog and pony show, even as they see their ratings and subscriptions decline? I’ve long thought it was either marketing, or crony capitalism (keepting the rulers happy for the next legislative give-away). Looks to me like it must be more of the latter than the former, since I don’t see what it is doing to increase their reveneues from voluntary free market viewing and purchasing.
Eli @ 81
Great article she put out.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19588942/
I’m listening again!!
Wow!
Americans sure are geeks.
A.Citizen @ 87
It has been my belief that as people realize that the media is Pravda, they will increasingly turn to the samizdat for the real scoop on what’s going on. And who else but the bloggers are the modern-day samizdat?
I also think this is why the media reports on anything critical at all - they need to maintain a minimum standard of credibility and plausibility to prevent a mass exodus to the blogizdat.
RevDeb@86: I heard briefly on Rachel’s show tonight that Cindy is so pissed off about this that she’s back in the fight. No surprise there.
Awesome! I love Cindy. There’s something about the way she talks– so direct and honest.
Clusterfuck can see the end of the crapper before his very eyes- after that it’s only sewer pipe and he’s halfway down- danglin his silly little feet over the abyss.
Bout the only thing that could save him is an ill advised impeachment attempt by the dems- that’s what revitalized Clinton. Don’t get me wrong- I really don’t mind if they do it- but it won’t work and they’ll save Clusterfuck- you can count on it.
Riesz Fischer @ 97
Read she is leading a march from Atlanta to Washington. Go Cindy !
Eli @ 36
I think he ran as an independent/liberal party after Phonz beat him in the R primary and that was the vote he split with Holtzman. ‘94 was a shame as any one of the three Dems would have been a great candidate but they beat each other up so badly in the primary, that the Phonz waa able to hold on. Abrams wound up with the nom.
wesgpc @ 91
I’m pretty sure that their ginormous parent conglomerates find Republican government to be a lot more profitable for their overall enterprise than a successful news division. Not to mention more ideologically sympatico.
Check back tomorrow. Glad too see that someone on in the media is speaking out. Keith is indeed a true patriot.
boxer @ 67
I think it is a cult of Party. Very much like Stalinism in tone and content. It just hasn’t managed to go that far yet. Let’s hope it never does..
LBrowne @ 61
Anyone who lived through the Cold War and maybe remembers some of WW2 has got to see the similarities.
And welcome, LBrowne!
Richard Wolffe, as usual, made exactly the wrong point in his discussion with Keith. He maintained that Bush commuted Libby’s sentence because he knows Libby, is Libby’s friend, as is the Vice. Compared Libby to all the people whose sentences W hasn’t commuted; Wolffe made the “justice for thee, but not for me and mine” argument.
That isn’t my primary objection to the commute. I agree with Joe Wilson’s point: it’s an ongoing furtherance of a continuing criminal conspiracy to obstruct justice in a federal investigation of the betrayal of a national security asset in wartime, executed at the apex of the Executive Branch.
Everybody expects politicians to pardon their friends; Wolffe’s argument gets people talking about Bill Clinton’s pardon of his brother. Pardoning a guy who obstructed justice and lied for you in court is something entirely different.
The American people understand that.
RevDeb @ 86