The WaPo is hosting a Presidential pity party this morning — but a closer read shows some significant cracks in the sympathy and hand holding facade. To wit:
And yet Bush does not come across like a man lamenting his plight. In public and in private, according to intimates, he exhibits an inexorable upbeat energy that defies the political storms. Even when he convenes philosophical discussions with scholars, he avoids second-guessing his actions. He still acts as if he were master of the universe, even if the rest of Washington no longer sees him that way.
“You don’t get any feeling of somebody crouching down in the bunker,” said Irwin M. Stelzer, a senior fellow at the Hudson Institute who was part of one group of scholars who met with Bush. “This is either extraordinary self-confidence or out of touch with reality. I can’t tell you which.”…
Some aides see it as Bush refusing to accept reality. “The president thinks cutting and running on his friends shows weakness,” said an exasperated senior official. “Change shows weakness. Doing what everyone knows has to be done shows weakness.” Another former aide said that no matter how many people Bush consults, he heeds only two or three.
Beyond Gonzales, the discontent with the Bush presidency is broader and deeper among Republican lawmakers, some of whom seethe with anger. “Our members just wish this thing would be over,” said a senior House Republican who met with Bush recently. “People are tired of him.” Bush’s circle remains sealed tight, the lawmaker said. “There’s nobody there who can stand up to him and tell him, ‘Mr. President, you’ve got to do this. You’re wrong on this.’ There’s no adult supervision. It’s like he’s oblivious. Maybe that’s a defense mechanism.”…
How, exactly, can you learn from the study of history when you refuse to apply history’s lessons to yourself, to pull out the mistakes of your past and examine them in the full sunlight, and to admit — privately and publicly — that you have made errors? Honestly, what it sounds to me is that the President is wallowing around in the fact that other heads of state have also made mistakes in the past, without ever accepting the reality that it is his own mistakes that have led him to this point in his own history. How about accepting responsibility for your own failures, George? Or, better yet, how about not only accepting them, but actually making the desperately needed changes to correct this failed course?
And isn’t it worth pointing out the fact that a number of the failures and tribulations detailed by all these sympathetic pals are messes of Bush’s own making? Whatever happened to personal responsibility?
It isn’t enough to ask the questions about how the Bush Presidency got off course — because just asking questions still leaves the failures intact. Real leaders get up off their asses, dust themselves off, admit their errors and look them square in the eye…and then do something. Right now, all George Bush is doing is hosting a self-perpetuating pity party and treading water.
And that isn’t exactly leadership, now is it?
(The above YouTube is Leslie Gore and her signature “It’s My Party.” Here’s an Amazon clip link for the dial-up crowd. H/T to Scarecrow and reader WB for the link on this article.)
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Christy! Great post. Reagan was the Teflon President—Bush is the Boy-in-the-Bubble president. He sticks his fingers in his ears, sticks his tongue out at anybody who disagrees, and says “nyah, nyah, I can’t hear you!”
Needs. Adult. Supervision. It said so right in the article.
Sinking rather.
Good morning Christy!
If Bush ran out of bullets he will throw his gun. A nice quality in some ways, but a bit out of touch – and not quite the hero when someone else is taking the bullets, and loading the Bush bunkers up with gold, oil, and money that will be used for another 50 or 100 years.
The paper’s comments and quotes about “the President sticking to his friends” are disingenuous. The President is sticking with Gonzalez because only by keeping Gonzalez in place can the president control the Judicial Branch, and only by controlling the Judiciary can he prevent investigations into the crimes of the Executive Branch.
Gonzalez will have to be impeached to remove him from office: not because of the President’s loyalty, but because the President is afraid to have his crimes investigated.
So it’s time to impeach Gonzalez.
This was EPUed at the end of the last thread. Is very much worth your while to read the article linked in the comment.
Rocket Scientist @ 67
The boyking (boinking?) will only listen to Chainie, and Cheney’s dilusional and won’t accept reality. Our country is in the hands of true sociopaths. God save us cuz Congress ain’t in any hurry.
RevDeb @ 3
OMG. I was just thinking that. Most 10 year olds have outgrown this stage.
Whyohwhy didn’t the repugs, if they just HAD to fill the top chair, just stick a cardboard cutout there. The world would be better off…
Christy,
I like your take on the WaPo article.
(Also, we could hear this one from Question Mark And the Mysterians.
Even when he convenes philosophical discussions with scholars,
Yeah, right! Like that ever happens.
That article in the WaPo was strange, I thought. The fact that his popularity has been below 50% since the beginning of his 2nd term makes me wonder more than ever about the integrity of the 2004 election.
Helluva time to be talking to theologians and philosophers.
I agree with Christy that real leaders would do something to make things better…but who ever really thought he was a good leader? The very idea of “running out the clock” whether it comes from BushCo or from Dems who are against impeachment strikes me as a big mistake. For one thing, there is much to be done, so farting around for 18 month is a real bad idea. But more important, letting all the shitty things this crew has done to our Constitution stand unchallenged is handing a horrible precedent over to the next president and the next generations of Americans.
Personally I would like to see the whole crew first impeached and then handed over to the Hague (including the ones from the Bush 43 v1.0) for a war crimes trial.
cathy @ 12
Heh — that struck me funny, too.
I wouldn’t hold my breath for George W. Bush to lead anything other than a naked towel snapping contest. And, only then, if he were the only one with a towel.
Albatross @ 7
Agree 100%, but doesn’t Bushie think he is
Winston Churchill?
Whatever happened to personal responsibility?
“Personal responsibility” is a buzzword that Republicans can no more fathom than they could quantum mechanics. Spoiled children can attach no meaning to that particular concept.
johnSwifty at 15 — Oh my. The mental image. It burns….it buuuuurrrrrrnnnnnsssss…
Too many tear drops for one heart to be crying.
Just ask the families of our dead soldiers, or those who has lost limbs or their sanity.
Or ask the Iraqis.
Or ask the Constitution.
The list goes on.
Scarecrow’s post yesterday underscored the urgency for getting impeachment on the table. Now. And Christy’s post reminds me how true that is. The message to the world at large is that we’re sitting on our rosy duffs, watching the Boy King and his minions (or is he the minion — I forget) play fast and loose with, mmmm, pretty much everything. And I have seen pieces elsewhere that seem to echo the poor little Georgie tone. BS! Gonzales must go, now. Nancy needs to feed us some hope. And as I see it, impeachment is the only hope left in a legal system gone totally tilt.
So, if you’re invited to a “pity party” for a pathetic prez, what do you bring as a gift?
Winners announced later.
Today is the fourth anniversary of Georges infamous “Bring them on” speech, Too bad none of his enablers in the MSM have the intestinal fortitude to ask if he had regrets about using those three little words.
You’re doing a heck of a job Georgie
Bush is running true to form. Nothing in his current behaviour differs from his life prior to becoming President except that it affects more people more significantly. In the end, when this nightmare his past us and we get to live a new one, we will have to ask why a man of so little achievement could have come close to being elected in 2000 when an ex ante estimate of his vote share in say, 1998, would have been in the mid 40s. He came close enough to being legitimately elected that for most practical purposes we can say he was; and if so, the blame comes back to the American people, and more particularly the Republican bonzes who selected him to be their candidate over more qualified candidates.
We have to get to the root of this. How did a functioning democracy apparently at the top of its form and in the best of economic times, with all the hope in the world ahead of it, elect an utterly and predictably incompetent man to be their chief magistrate. It wasn’t all voter suppression, because given the altrnative, the election shouldn’t even have been close.
Adie @ 10
Ever see the kids’ book “Flat Stanley”? *g*
Scarecrow @ 21
Bill of impeachment, personally autographed by members of Congress.
A bunch of sour grapes?
Scarecrow @ 21
A 24-pack so he can cry in his beer.
Scarecrow @ 21
One way airplane ticket to the Hague, Netherlands.
A fabulously gift-wrapped box of empty promises.
egregious @ 25
Nice touch. Very personal.
Lithium Cola at dKos has an interesting take on the WaPoo piece:
Cheney’s MO has been to influence everything that the Decider decides then go hide in the woodwork like the cockroach that he is.
Two words for the colossal failure of the Bush Presidency:
Dick Cheney
Fern @ 8
This is the Holt bill. Originally touted as “paper trail”. You get a paper receipt saying how you voted. BradBlog is correct, I think, that we really need paper ballots that can be recounted by hand. But there are amendments being floated which could turn the Holt bill either way.
Morning Christy, you can hear our country (and probably the world) exude a sigh of relief on January 9 2009. I think we will need fireworks
I think the fact that this article appeared at all is instructive. The fact that Republican lawmakers (please let them be Senators!) are wishing for the end of the Bush Presidency, may signal the first priming of the pump.
Remember folks, we need to have enough Senators willing to put country (or at least the survival of their own party) ahead of blind loyalty to Bush/Cheney in order to win an impeachment case.
EW’s very important work on both the likelyhood that Cheney illigally declassified Plame info AND that Bush illegally recertified the NSA spying program after Comey and Ashcroft refused to sign off on it; raise the possiblity of joint impeachment.
I think WaPo sees that possibility too which is why they were touting Fred Thomp[son for the role of Gerald Ford in a two tiered resignation scenario.
Frankly, they are offering a very pragmatic way out for the GOP.
So, my darling Senators, if GOP shills are worried enough to be discussing this in the pages of their newspaper instead of merely over cocktails, you know it’s got to be way beyond the trial balloon stage.
Are you going to capitailze on this ? There is more than one way to skin this cat, and I REALLY FAVOR THE WAY THAT INVOLVES TRANSPARENCY AND ACCOUNTABILITY
Maybe I cannot shake my old prosecutor’s instincts, but lack of accountability during the Nixon and Iran Contra messes has resulted in a far bigger mess to today.
We need to do some serious fungus irradication.
IMHO
photo ops, in no particular order:
1. Did anyone else find it strangely revealing? Poppabush was the one who greeted pootie at the helipad and marched him past the cameras for the obligatory photo-op.
Where, ahem, was jr.?
2. Has anyone in that cute lil’ gaggle of happyfamily ever taught notjenna which end of a fishin’ pole is which? Just curious. Seldom seen such an uncomfortable scene as that’n. Kept imagining the post-op joyful-task some underling wuz gonna have untangling all the fishin’lines, assuming they had hooks on ‘um.
demi @ 11
That wasn’t ? & Mysterians. They’re here, and much better.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-c4jaoBTRw
Scarecrow @ 21
a resignation letter for him to sign. oh, and a pen.
Scarecrow @ 21
a dead striped bass, preferably boned & fileted.
About three years ago, Rolling Stone had a great article about Cheney. As I recall, Bush Sr. was told to steer clear of Cheney and Rumsfield, which he did.
What I don’t understand is how Jr. didn’t get the same message.
Can anyone explain this?
Let’s blow up Iran:
BAGHDAD – Iranian forces helped plan one of the most sophisticated militant assaults of the Iraq war — a January raid in which gunmen posed as an American security team and launched an attack that killed five U.S. soldiers, an American general said Monday.
U.S. military spokesman Brig. Gen. Kevin J. Bergner also accused Iran of using its Lebanese ally, the Shiite militia Hezbollah, as a “proxy” to arm Shiite militants in Iraq.
The claims were an escalation in U.S. accusations that Iran is fueling Iraq’s violence, which the government in Tehran has denied. It was also the first time the U.S. military has said Hezbollah has a direct role which, if true, would bring a dangerous new player into Iraq’s conflict
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/200…..mi_ea/iraq
Kennedy acknowledge that he screwed up on the Bay of Pigs. He owned it, he moved on, and became one of the most popular presidents ever.
Fortunately, Bush cannot acknowledge making a mistake, so we don’t have to worry about it happening in his case.
Fern @ 8
re: h.r.811
i read the article, and was left uniformed. longer reply left in previous thread with links to eff, david dill and bill text.
I guess the WH has a week to get it’s Executive Priviledge papers together, then Congress has to decide on contempt or not.
yellowdogD @ 36
Your are correct Yellowdog. Couldn’t find the real one. Thanks.
It made me laugh this am. I think we all need a good laugh on a Monday morning.
A very telling part of the article was the anecdote about Bush insisting on calling Peter King’s wife from Air Force One upon learning in casual conversation that she was concerned about the weight of the office bearing down on him.
“She thinks that?” Bush replied.”Get her on the phone.”King dialed and got voice mail.Bush left a message,”I’m doing OK. Don’t worry about me.”
As the Bard of Avon observed, the man “doth protest too much.”
Re: Bush from WaPo:
I don’t believe it for a second.
looseheadprop @ 34
Amen to that and I hope you are right about the trial balloons and Rs looking for a way to stop the bleeding.
Scarecrow @ 21
I would bring the new board game from Parker Brothers, Neocon Monopoly. This updated version of the old classic allows you to build oil wells instead of hotels, the game pieces are military vehicles, you get to collect money when you go to jail and the dice are loaded.
demi @ 39
he listens to a higher source, member? da voices in him’s head…
Scarecrow @ 21
A horse’s head? (I presume he saw the movie and knows what that means.)
You can’t. And Pravda ( aka. The Washington Post) doesn’t want to learn anything.
If they did they wouldn’t have Fred Hiatt, L’il Debbie or Mr. Sheri Annis on staff — not to mention Woody.
Meanwhile in Slate, one of Obama’s advance men takes more Magic away from the Negro by attacking Michael Moore.
Obama is a Trojan Horse.
You’re absolutely right Christy.
He’s not looking to history to learn, it seems to me, but looking for validation, or even, absolution.
Well, maybe not absolution. That might suggest he can feel genuine guilt. I do think he feels shame, in a more primal way, but not guilt, which requires greater developmental advancement to a healthy conscience.
I think Jane is right: it’s all about the ego. It’s very primal and narcissistic.
What kind of answer did he expect, or get, to this question about the world hating us because of something about his personality? Well, yes, Mr. Bully. Recall the world community of concern and support after 9/11. Then you spit in everyone’s eyes to go it alone, claim Iraqi oil, lie, kill more people than anyone since Hitler. Your personality? Yes. Your illegal actions? Yes. Ignoring the rest of the world? Yes. You have been a traitor to your country and the world community. Bullies generally do not have many friends.
Adie @ 49
Thanks, Adie. I forgot.
So we have to elect someone not only not insecure, but not Crazy.
Ford Prefect @ 22
Don’t panic, Ford. Bring a towel!
Adie @ 49
Cheney managed to get a transmitter into Bush’s head. “Hello, W. This is God. I have a message. Invade Iraq. Give no-bid contracts to Halliburton. Give Cheney all power. That is all. I have spoken.”
RevDeb @ 50
please no horses. just – it’s personal, okay?!
Won’t #38 do for dat reference, eh?
johnSwifty @ 55
Just about made me spew my diet coke all over my keyboard. How could I forget the comfort of a towel. Just remember, Don’t Panic!
Good mornin’ Christy, Scarecrow, everybody-
The tragedy here is that when you’re runnin’ a baseball team and you fuck up by trading Sammy Sosa, you may end up with a losing record, but nobody gets hurt.
When you’re President of the United States of America and you fuck up, you end up with:
9/11.
Iraq.
New Orleans.
Afghanistan.
Gonzales.
Cheney.
Rove.
Torture.
Abu Ghraib.
Domestic spying.
Deficits.
Tanking economy.
41 million uninsured.
etc.
And my gift for W’s pity party: handcuffs.
OT (but not really), Glenn’s book is @ #82 this morning. AC’s is at #552.
Adie @ 35
elderbush met putin because both are former spooks. Professional courtesy.
Good morning, all! Another beautiful day here.
I have an answer to your question here:
You can’t. Of course, you may not want to learn from history, also. You might want to cherrypick history just to try and find something that can be construed into supporting your dug-in position.
It’s all about motivation. And Bush has no motivation to change or to lead.
(Waving to Adie)
Scarecrow @ 61
I liked the photo with Poppy driving the boat and Georgie waving, with that silly grin. Too bad Pops didn’t let George drive. Ya know what I mean?
Pachacutec @ 52
Hi Pach.
Question. How do you do such fine work without coming down with a splitting headache?!
Seriously. I hang on your every word, but do marvel at your dedication & stamina. Thank you!
Handcuffs! That’s great. And read him his rights because he sure wouldn’t know them.
1,565 DAYZ AND THE KILLIN’ GOEZ ON AND ON AND..
Citizen Hardin Smith and the Firepup Patriots:
The behavior from the adolescent-in-chief is not “out of touch with reality” but confidence generated from the knowledge that the only way he can be held accountable is if there are 18 votes from his own party in the Senate to impeach his ass. We have passed the tippin’ point in the growth of the corporate state…all of the 18th century institutions established to check tyranny have been corrupted to the point that there is no power strong enough to challenge the oligarchy.
The terrible truth is that the 200 year battle for the implementation of representative, constitutional government has been lost and the institutions established for the advancement of democracy have been used to secure an oligarchy whose power is greater than any ever seen before and which power is the possibility to end all life on the planet.
Either the people take to the streets and challenge the tyranny of the crime families or we go out with a whimper.
KEEP THE FAITH AND PASS THE AMMUNITION, NONE OF ‘EM ARE GUNNA GIVE IT BACK TO YA WITHOUT A FIGHT!!
No matter what the gift, the gift giver will get a medal of freedom.
Adie,
Funny there’s no photo of the boat getting stuck anchored and the coast guard helping them get loose.
As for the horse’s head perhaps we could do with a framed picture of the movie scene. But I doubt he would get the hint.
Janda @ 58
The plans to invade Iraq and Iran have been on display at the super-secret world command center under the south pole since 1987. Anyone who had a problem with them has had ample time to view them and file a grievance…now, an ode to a bit of putty I found in my armpit…
Pachacutec @ 52
You absolutely must factor in the dry drunk (or not so dry drunk) piece. It’s huge.
Adie, you embarrass me. I don’t have that much stamina, in truth. I’m juggling a number of balls, but Christy has been carrying the blog on her back for a long time while Jane’s been sick.
There’s a lot that goes on behind the scenes, and a lot of people pitch in. I’m just one. And I only have part time available for politics.
Scarecrow @ 61
ohhhkaaay, i guess. Think they talk tradecraft infront of the kid?
GeorgeSimian @ 42
I’m hoping for a slam dunker!
Norske,
There are 21 senators from his party who are up for reelection. Whether they decide to run again or not, that’s 21 repig seats on which a vote could be recorded.
I don’t think the votes are there yet, but did they know the votes were there against Nixon before they started the proceedings in the House?
Anyone know that?
RevDeb @ 68
Here the photo.
Janda @ 58
I have some really bad news, The Guide deleted the DON’T
RevDeb @ 68
Saw the photo in the link up yest afternoon. Wasn’t Coast Guard. It was the Secret Service. They had a diver on their boat.
HuffPost photo of Bushcraft in trouble. Bwahahahahaha!
Here’s a shot of the boat: trying to unstick the anchor?
Sorry for the double posting.
It is a very interesting metaphor, though.
Scarecrow @ 21
A signed 9-0 decision reversing Bush v
Gore
Bay State Librul @ 73
A technical question. Is a “Contempt of Congress” resolution(?) passed through Congress like a law? If so where are the 60 Senate votes coming from?
Wonder if W thought of our ship of state?
Kowabunga, dudes. We just gave HuffPost a boatload (!) of hits, didn’t we?
demi @ 75
Kind of a metaphor for the whole administration, eh?
David Ehrenstein @ 51
holy cow! you’re right. what a dishonest piece of bullshit….
when and how did you come to see obama as a trojan horse?
landofthefree
Hey! (waving back)
left u another note epu’d way way back while you’s a practicin’.
IDRS? what toys? someotherstuff ;->
fwiw…
http://www.firedoglake.com/200…..ent-791196
RevDeb @ 74
The Senate elders who visited the WH to deliver the message knew the likely Senate count in the days before the full House voted — so no vote was ever taken in the full House, let alone Senate — except for the House Judiciary Committee.
Bay State Librul @ 73
nah! dunk in the slammer!
RevDeb @ 84
Me at #80. Jinx! Owe me a coke. Two debs thinkin’ alike. :)
WHen Justice Sandra Day was doing her work on the Iraq study group, do you suppose she ever regretted her vote in Bush v Gore? The opinion was such a leap and anomaly from the usual state power focus; I hope
Just refilled the feeders — happy, happy birdies outside. The in-laws have gone on a bit of a driving tour for the next coupla days, The peanut is at preschool, Mr. ReddHedd is at work, and my house is very quiet at the moment. Ahhhhhh…
RevDeb @ 3
Well, he’s with his pops this week, with Condi in attendance as well, and a “dear friend” from Russia. What an ethnically diverse family up in WASP country: Kennebunkport, ME.
Meanwhile, some good news:
The News Blog may be gone, but the Group News Blog fights on!
Bush reminds me so much of the person who claims to be in recovery, but is so stuck! Sometimes, people think they have the answers, and fight like crazy to hold onto those answers, even in the light of better answers. It is usually the sign of someone who wants to be in control of their own life, without realizing that you have to learn how to be in control — and it is a very long process. Tragically, in the absence of impeachment, we will have to survive this paralysis for another 18 months — and just pray that he does not do anything even more stupid…
bhatten @ 91
Nah!! She just quit her day job and we got Roberts.
the one thing that makes jfk so popular is that he was assassinated…
just sayin’.
Scarecrow @ 87
But that happened after the House Judiciary Committee had its own very public hearings IIRC which very publicly woke up the country. How would that play out today?
Perhaps in our efforts to prime the pump, as LHP repeatedly reminds us, a series on retelling the Nixon impeachment series would be fun. A refresher course for those of us who watched it many years ago in a far away land.
1,565 DAYZ AND THE KILLIN’ GOEZ ON AND ON AND..
Citizen RevDeb:
In 1975 the Democrats had 60 votes in the Senate, as I recall all they needed were 5-6 votes from the other side. The corruption of the institutions of the justice system including the Supreme Court was not yet complete in 1975 and the oligarchy was NOT gunna stand up for Ricard Nixon, after all he wasn’t “one of them”…Baby Bush IS “one of them” and the entire system of checks and balances has been corrupted. No dear, we don’t have the luxury of waitin’ for Godot here…I wish it were otherwise.
KEEP THE FAITH AND TAKE CARE OF EACH OTHER!!
RevDeb @ 98
To pass we need a blockbuster… like Comey
or Fitz coming forward with proof that
Bush/Cheney/Gonzo are lying sack of shits or
we need a WHISTLEBLOWER…
yellowdogD @ 36
thanks for the vid. Interesting how they got all that sound with no microphones or amplifiers anywhere in sight. Inspiration for -who were those guys that got caught lip-synching all their stuff? Great song, though.
Fern @ 8
IANAL But: After reading HR811 as submitted to the House, the HELP AMERICA VOTE ACT OF 2002 (HAVA), which it amends, and the National Voter Registration Act which HAVA refers to, this looks to me like a good thing.
1) While HAVA does establish a commission appointed by the president, it’s members need Senate confirmation.
2) The Commissions powers are not very sweeping and in any case HR811 does not really extend these powers. For the most part power over the design and counting of elections is left to the states.
What the bill does is to add requirement to electronic voting machines that are very much needed. It requires:
1) Voter verifiable paper ballots.
2) Requires that electronic tabulations may not be the sole basis for resolving a disputed election EVEN if some of the paper ballots have been compromised.
3) Requires that software used in voting machines be held in escrow and greatly limits the restrictions voting machine companies place on independent experts reviewing the software.
4) It prohibits transmitting the election data over the internet. (ring any bells?)
There is more to the bill but overall it looks very positive to me.
Of course there is lots more it could do. For example, I would like to see a requirement that all voting machine software be open source.
I would be happy to be corrected with the specifics from the bill, but overall, I think it improves things quite a bit.
demi @ 75
From the article:
“But he had time to cast his line just a few times. Within minutes, the diver surfaced with the anchor in hand.”
How TELLING that comment is. OMG. Any TODDLER knows you don’t cast a lure while a diver’s in the water right under you. EGAD! What.a.flaming.idiot!!!
Say, what IS the current toll of injured secre**ervice protectors the boy-king has personally bonked on the head, run into with his bike, or otherwise disenabled?
My sympathy is with those their disgusting president would not help.
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/07…..ns.html?hp
Ray McGovern on Impeachment here.
And for those of you who haven’t read them, Articles of Impeachment
Pachacutec @ 71
note the strain and appreciate much.
Thanks Christy ;->
All good wishes to {{{{{{JANE}}}}}}
johnSwifty @ 69
Does that make Cheney a Vogon? Or can we use Vogon poetry against the chimporer in cheif?
Re: HR 811
Section 2.a.2.A.III.ii states:
(ii) PRESERVATION- The individual, durable voter-verified paper ballot produced in accordance with clause (i) shall be used as the official ballot for purposes of any recount or audit conducted with respect to any election for Federal office in which the voting system is used, and shall be preserved–
This sounds like what we probably want. This is not just a receipt.
anyone else get the feeling that the shrub is on WAY too much proz*c?
Fern…Thanks for the heads up on Rush Holt’s secret voting bill. Will call my reps. today. To think Holt is a democrat who has seen our country destroyed by secret ballots and wants it to continue.
Janda @ 106
Cheney and company are the Vogons!
Adie @ 87
Thanks for the link – I did miss it when I did my session. I have a feeling a lot of people read your story, but didn’t respond. It’s shocking, depressing stuff – how this kind of thing happens in this rich country, I’ll never understand. Heck, I’m still baffled at the response (or lack of response) from Katrina and Rita. I suppose that all ties in precisely to Christy’s post – Bush doesn’t care about the poor, ill and desperate because he doesn’t have to. He can ignore these people and still try to find a way to make himself feel like a great President. It’s painfully obvious that he beleives he can define his legacy with his own vision and definition of greatness, and everyone else who doesn’t agree is simply foolish.
Anyway, the toyz… got a new O and a new EH. OMG am I broke now – good thing I’ve been saving for this. I desperately needed the EH – mine is over 25! My old O is still great, but it’s time for a new one. I was happy to get a former teacher to listen in and help me nail down the right ones. I desperately want to play them for gigs in the next couple weeks, but you know I can’t do that. Damn cookie jar – I just wanna put my hand in for more than 10 minutes a day!
OldCoastie @ 109
Hmmm. That wasn’t the substance I was guessing.
(Laura, on the other hand…)
Oh, bad LOTF. I should know better than to get all bill fristy. (snort!)
a real leader would have asked the kwestions first.
but the chimp didn’t give a shit, because getting his war would mean his reelection and that’s all he cared about at the time.
cry me a river.
From the WaPo article:
The Algerian War of Independence and the Iraq Occupation are not even close to being suitable to be compared for similarities or differences. The latter is an accident, a “contingency,” of History. The former is part of the dialectic, a “necessity” of History.
This really struck me:
Aside from “Cheney’s hunting accident” and the coverup of Mark Foley’s behavior(I prefer Jon Stewart’s locution here), these are all events that can be laid right in the president’s lap. This wasn’t “bad news.” This was arrant failure, all preventable with even moderately sound judgment and attendance to reality.
Joe Wilson Speaks.
Oh, Christy! I want a pair of white go-go boots and a scarf, too!
Thank you again for everything.
((((((((((((((Christy)))))))))))))
Apparently this train-wreck isn’t all bush’s fault – his “Handlers” don’t have the balls to stand up and make him see it’s time for change.
Fresh thread for everyone.
selise at 86:
when and how did you come to see obama as a trojan horse?
He’s always been a standard Clintonesque Democrat. But I’ve had my suspicions about his squishiness for some time — recently confirmed with his AIDS hysteria at the last “debate.”
landofthefree 112
Ohhh yes. Familiar with the lure of the cookiejar, and the splits even when everything is done perfectly to the letter.
And the tremendous help it can be to have a 2nd pair of good ears to aid the decision.
You folks are a special breed. Nerves of steel. Most of those silly fellas who think playin’ football is the greatest character-builder in the universe, pale in comparison to you guys, imho.
Terrific new toyz! Enjoy! We’re happy for you ;->
I get the feeling that Bush is searching for parallels with anything historic to validate his actions only, not to learn from his strategic mistakes….
Wasn’t there some dialog regarding similarities in respect to George Washington in the past?
“This is either extraordinary self-confidence or out of touch with reality. I can’t tell you which.”…
Are the two really mutually exclusive?
I can’t believe the person who said this is really a “scholar.”
RevDeb @ 50
Yes, I was going to say “horse’s head on a stick, you know, the toy. Then the man who is sceered of horses could ride into the sunset without crapping his pants.”
His old man covered for him, his old lady covered for him, the Airforce covered for him, his teachers(?) covered for him, Yale University covered for him (”gentleman ‘cees’”) Now his friends are trying to cover for his incompetency and being an intellectual midget. It is too late. He has been exposed. All these people are liars or disloyal? Clarke, O’Neil, Shinseki, Lindsay, Powell, Wilkerson …….
nellieh at 125 — So many excuses, so little time…
Adie @ 121
Ha! You give a very nice outlook on those of us who just think of ourselves as narcissistic, hyper-critical perfectionists who beat themselves up all the time. ;)
Adie, here’s my email – feel free to drop me a line:
news(underscore)4(underscore)Muse at hot mail doht com
albert fall @ 41
May I point out that the Bay of Pigs fiasco was planned by a REPUBLICAN Administration? (Eisenhower/Nixon)
Kennedy wasn’t the only one to blame there.
I find the comment of that “House Republican” not credible. So if “There’s nobody there who can stand up to him”, how did that specific lawmaker pass his time in congress? Probably never stood up to anything coming from the White House. This kind of whine leaves me stone cold.
The inconsistancies in the WaPo article are bizarre. After a brain shampoo and after breakfast settles a bit better I’ll read it again and try to pull out the author from the editor(s). There are instances of praise along with the pity, but also instances of faint praise and even some scorn….
If this were an eighth grade essay I’d want to see the note cards and rough draft before trying to teach how a theme is built…
There is no real theme running through this article… maybe there was before the editors started inserting “stuff” but Baker has written tight articles in the past… this work is not like those.
I think it’s time to put Bush under suicide watch. An unexplanable aura of acceptance and even bliss often accompany the final decision of an individual to commit suicide.
So, if you’re invited to a “pity party” for a pathetic prez, what do you bring as a gift?
A case of Jack Daniels for the guest of honor.
The White House press release we should never expect to see:
“Bush Signs Act of Contrition.”
THIS was my “favorite” part, so, so pity-inducing:
Yeah, the poor, poor baby has had to “endure” this problem. He had no responsibility. Let’s all return to the passive voice: “mistakes were made.”
And this from the media that’s supposed to be examining things???? OTOH, Fred Hiatt’s got an op ed column. What birdcage filler this paper is!!!
Is W a fan of Robert A. Heinlein? Makes sense. Heinlein saw things in black & white: either you are super-human or cat-food; gorgeous or ugly; brainiac or idiot.
Anyway, here is one of Heinlein’s famous quotes:
Always listen to the experts. They will tell you what can’t be done, and why. Then do it. – Robert A. Heinlein
“This is either extraordinary self-confidence or out of touch with reality. I can’t tell you which.”…
They’re one and the same. Bush’s self-confidence comes with the denial of reality.
LittlePig @ 17
Hmm. Yes. What about all those teachers who are supposed to show every year with all their students that their teaching methods have succeeded? Why don’t we just wait for history to judge them? Maybe they planted seeds in children that will blossom in twenty years. As long as they tell us they’re sure God approves of their methods and lesson plans, we should let them carry on, and not make them change anything they’re doing, even if their classrooms look chaos on a stick.
johnSwifty @ 15
—Snork—! I’m trying to eat lunch here and really did not need that mental image.;)
I wonder if this story isnT part of a new crafted narrative that:
Separates Bush from Cheney
Tries to make a case for a compassionate, concerned Bush
Limits Bush public perception damage, while leaving Cheney out there
Notably, Cheney isn’t around the Kennebunkport compound. Shrub has daddy, mama, the two wives Laura and Condi, and Hadley (who may be the Cheney link and leaker).
I wonder if pappy isn’t going to take charge at this point and do everything he can with his Carlyle buddies to isolate Cheney.
Re: this morning’s soul-searching story, I wonder if shrub is also being visited by a psychiatrist or two and whether he’s on meds. that could partially explain the blunted affect.
Since he’s still fixated on a good/evil worldview, he needs to have his authority to act mitigated, and I think that maybe the re-emergence of the Iraq Study Group and the visit to mom and pop’s house are breadcrumbs alluding to that.
Does anyone know where Cheney is?
Christy asks, “How, exactly, can you learn from the study of history when you refuse to apply history’s lessons to yourself, to pull out the mistakes of your past and examine them in the full sunlight, and to admit — privately and publicly — that you have made errors?“
Bush’s whole shtick has been about confidently following, even bragging about, his “instincts”. If he were to admit that that was what got him into trouble he’d have nothing left and nowhere to turn:
Biden said that Bush stood up and put his hand on the senator’s shoulder. “My instincts,” he said. “My instincts.”
(From Ron Suskind, Without a Doubt, October, 2004)
Definite echos of downfall
Froomkin’s on this, too:
Nothing will ever get these two sociopaths to do right, so don’t hold your breath and hope that things will get better. The people of this country gave up any independence and freedom they thought they might have when they allowed the right wing to select these two.
He’s a fucking perpetrator, not a victim.
It’s my quagmire and I’ll cry if I want to…
“He still acts as if he were master of the universe, even if the rest of Washington no longer sees him that way”
The term delusional, has been kicked around these past few years. Now if only the press weren’t so… then it wouldn’t have mattered about what these crack pot leaders thought…they would have been gone by now, or better yet, never got in for a second term.