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	<title>Comments on: Predictable, Frightened Joe</title>
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		<title>By: The Skeptical Cynic</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/07/02/predictable-joe/#comment-793146</link>
		<dc:creator>The Skeptical Cynic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jul 2007 21:39:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Joe’s greatest fear is that at some point some candidate is going to has the courage to say that it is in the best interest of the United States that it demand that Israel evacuate every square inch of occupied territory not only to it’s 1967 borders but to the borders of the area mandated in 1947 and not one penny of the billions in foreign aid that goes to Israel each year including loans quietly and conveniently written off will be delivered until Israel does so. And further, using the same economic ‘clout’ it uses to coerce and intimidate smaller nations who have been bamboozle into deep debt to the U.S., force Israel to abandon it nuclear weapons development and sign the Nuclear Weapons Non-proliferation Treaty. The U.S. has assumed the role of policeman throughout the world  except where some the most thuggish, immoral, imperialistic, genocidal, ethnic cleansing  national behavior is engaged in by the the Zionist regime in Israel.. Incidentally, it was the Zionist regime that the so-called nutcake president of Iran said should by wiped off the map not the State of Israel.&lt;br /&gt;
 Wouldn’t the whole world be better off if we could be rid of the current Administration in Washington. That certainly doesn’t sound so radical does it? And… it does mean wiping America off the map.&lt;br /&gt;
But since Americans who hardly know their own language can not be expected to understand Farsi or Persian, so however some propagandist  with a particular ax to grind “translates” the message  becomes accepted. The propagandist could have “translated” it that the Iranian president “dissed” Bush’s Momma and the dolts in this country would have believed it and had rallies calling for “nukin” em. Zionist Joe would have been leading the parade.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe’s greatest fear is that at some point some candidate is going to has the courage to say that it is in the best interest of the United States that it demand that Israel evacuate every square inch of occupied territory not only to it’s 1967 borders but to the borders of the area mandated in 1947 and not one penny of the billions in foreign aid that goes to Israel each year including loans quietly and conveniently written off will be delivered until Israel does so. And further, using the same economic ‘clout’ it uses to coerce and intimidate smaller nations who have been bamboozle into deep debt to the U.S., force Israel to abandon it nuclear weapons development and sign the Nuclear Weapons Non-proliferation Treaty. The U.S. has assumed the role of policeman throughout the world  except where some the most thuggish, immoral, imperialistic, genocidal, ethnic cleansing  national behavior is engaged in by the the Zionist regime in Israel.. Incidentally, it was the Zionist regime that the so-called nutcake president of Iran said should by wiped off the map not the State of Israel.<br />
 Wouldn’t the whole world be better off if we could be rid of the current Administration in Washington. That certainly doesn’t sound so radical does it? And… it does mean wiping America off the map.<br />
But since Americans who hardly know their own language can not be expected to understand Farsi or Persian, so however some propagandist  with a particular ax to grind “translates” the message  becomes accepted. The propagandist could have “translated” it that the Iranian president “dissed” Bush’s Momma and the dolts in this country would have believed it and had rallies calling for “nukin” em. Zionist Joe would have been leading the parade.</p>
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		<title>By: Billy</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/07/02/predictable-joe/#comment-792966</link>
		<dc:creator>Billy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jul 2007 19:53:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;OK if we do get out of Iraq and Iraq destabelizes the middle east what is America afraid of? Could that be a legit reason to go to war?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK if we do get out of Iraq and Iraq destabelizes the middle east what is America afraid of? Could that be a legit reason to go to war?</p>
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		<title>By: Balakirev</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/07/02/predictable-joe/#comment-792589</link>
		<dc:creator>Balakirev</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jul 2007 16:55:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;If there is a recall option available to Connecticut voters displeased with their federal legislative hire-ees, I’m amazed there has been no major effort made to remove Vanity Joe.  If there isn’t any, I’m surprised there have been rumblings of a statewide ballot initiative to add same.  After all, Vanity Joe is a walking, talking advertisement for same.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If there is a recall option available to Connecticut voters displeased with their federal legislative hire-ees, I’m amazed there has been no major effort made to remove Vanity Joe.  If there isn’t any, I’m surprised there have been rumblings of a statewide ballot initiative to add same.  After all, Vanity Joe is a walking, talking advertisement for same.</p>
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		<title>By: hazmaq</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/07/02/predictable-joe/#comment-792582</link>
		<dc:creator>hazmaq</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jul 2007 16:53:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Joe’s like a living cluster bomb–exploding into little searing pieces every time he gets near a microphone.&lt;br /&gt;
He also said he was “…disappointed in all of the Democratic candidates.”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Those Congressional Democratic candidates, however, must remain ‘good (pandering) friends’ of his.&lt;br /&gt;
But a Democratic Senate needs Joe like Cheney needs another shotgun.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;We should all ask for the miraculous cure all of a Joe-less anti-war Al Gore to win the Presidency.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt; ..And so my fellow Americans, ask not what your country can do  for you;   ask what you can do… to remove the influence of a spiteful and hateful little pro-war politician from ruining your country’s path to a more peaceful world. &lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe’s like a living cluster bomb–exploding into little searing pieces every time he gets near a microphone.<br />
He also said he was “…disappointed in all of the Democratic candidates.”</p>
<p>Those Congressional Democratic candidates, however, must remain ‘good (pandering) friends’ of his.<br />
But a Democratic Senate needs Joe like Cheney needs another shotgun.</p>
<p>We should all ask for the miraculous cure all of a Joe-less anti-war Al Gore to win the Presidency.</p>
<blockquote><p><i> ..And so my fellow Americans, ask not what your country can do  for you;   ask what you can do… to remove the influence of a spiteful and hateful little pro-war politician from ruining your country’s path to a more peaceful world. </i></p>
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		<title>By: mui</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/07/02/predictable-joe/#comment-792472</link>
		<dc:creator>mui</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jul 2007 16:18:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Greg Steph did not ask HoJoe to explain how Al Quaeda (Wahabi fascists) would get along well enough to hold hands with Iran (Shiite “menace”). At least long enough to produce the grand Hitler/Stalin alliance. /snark. In fact know one in the media seems to be capabale of asking HoJoe to explain step by step how he arrived at certain conclusions. Steph tried to change the subject, but in essence he’s just an another media enabler.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greg Steph did not ask HoJoe to explain how Al Quaeda (Wahabi fascists) would get along well enough to hold hands with Iran (Shiite “menace”). At least long enough to produce the grand Hitler/Stalin alliance. /snark. In fact know one in the media seems to be capabale of asking HoJoe to explain step by step how he arrived at certain conclusions. Steph tried to change the subject, but in essence he’s just an another media enabler.</p>
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		<title>By: QuakerGirl</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/07/02/predictable-joe/#comment-792407</link>
		<dc:creator>QuakerGirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jul 2007 15:21:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;So what are the odds that fifty percent of the Joe’s in government are mentally inapt and not wise with age? Fifty percent, that’s how many. There is something seriously the matter with Lil’ Joe. I am not being facetious but dead serious. What impact do medications have on their brain working normally? And these people are in the driver’s seat!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So what are the odds that fifty percent of the Joe’s in government are mentally inapt and not wise with age? Fifty percent, that’s how many. There is something seriously the matter with Lil’ Joe. I am not being facetious but dead serious. What impact do medications have on their brain working normally? And these people are in the driver’s seat!</p>
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		<title>By: selise</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/07/02/predictable-joe/#comment-792326</link>
		<dc:creator>selise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jul 2007 14:24:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-792311&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Kathryn in MA @ 80&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Thanks, selise. i’m off to work now. Thanks for what you are doing.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;have a great day!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-792311"><em>Kathryn in MA @ 80</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Thanks, selise. i’m off to work now. Thanks for what you are doing.</p>
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<p>have a great day!</p>
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		<title>By: Kathryn in MA</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/07/02/predictable-joe/#comment-792311</link>
		<dc:creator>Kathryn in MA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jul 2007 14:18:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thanks, selise. i’m off to work now. Thanks for what you are doing.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, selise. i’m off to work now. Thanks for what you are doing.</p>
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		<title>By: selise</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/07/02/predictable-joe/#comment-792290</link>
		<dc:creator>selise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jul 2007 14:07:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-792262&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Rocket Scientist @ 67&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;OT&lt;br /&gt;
Talk about being frightened - check this out.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.jabberwonk.com/flinker.cfm?cliid=10eoew&quot;&gt;http://www.jabberwonk.com/flinker.cfm?cliid=10eoew&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
“Congress about to “just say yes” to permanent secret vote counting.”&lt;br /&gt;
Be sure to read the entire article - for some inexplicable reason my PC only prints out the first page.&lt;br /&gt;
IMO this requires immediate and strong action on our part.  HR811 must not be alowed to pass.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I suggest that a separate article on this topic be presented by FDL to the FDL community for review and comments.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;would you quote the part of the bill that you don’t like - or just point to the relevant section(s), so i could read it for myself?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.eff.org/deeplinks/archives/005308.php&quot;&gt;eff&lt;/a&gt;, seems to like it, and so does &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-dill/its-time-to-outlaw-paper_b_47202.html&quot;&gt;david dill&lt;/a&gt; (two very reputable sources, imo). but i haven’t read &lt;a href=&quot;http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d110:h.r.00811:&quot;&gt;the bill&lt;/a&gt; for myself yet… would like to know more.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-792262"><em>Rocket Scientist @ 67</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>OT<br />
Talk about being frightened &#8211; check this out.<br />
<a href="http://www.jabberwonk.com/flinker.cfm?cliid=10eoew">http://www.jabberwonk.com/flinker.cfm?cliid=10eoew</a><br />
“Congress about to “just say yes” to permanent secret vote counting.”<br />
Be sure to read the entire article &#8211; for some inexplicable reason my PC only prints out the first page.<br />
IMO this requires immediate and strong action on our part.  HR811 must not be alowed to pass.</p>
<p>I suggest that a separate article on this topic be presented by FDL to the FDL community for review and comments.</p>
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<p>would you quote the part of the bill that you don’t like &#8211; or just point to the relevant section(s), so i could read it for myself?</p>
<p><a href="http://www.eff.org/deeplinks/archives/005308.php">eff</a>, seems to like it, and so does <a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-dill/its-time-to-outlaw-paper_b_47202.html">david dill</a> (two very reputable sources, imo). but i haven’t read <a href="http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d110:h.r.00811:">the bill</a> for myself yet… would like to know more.</p>
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		<title>By: Lou Costello</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/07/02/predictable-joe/#comment-792287</link>
		<dc:creator>Lou Costello</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jul 2007 14:06:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Someone stop this little man: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.rawstory.com/showarticle.php?src=http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/lieberman-calls-for-wider-use-of-surveillance-cameras-2007-07-01.html&quot;&gt;Lieberman calls for wider use of surveillance cameras.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Someone stop this little man: </p>
<p><a href="http://www.rawstory.com/showarticle.php?src=http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/lieberman-calls-for-wider-use-of-surveillance-cameras-2007-07-01.html">Lieberman calls for wider use of surveillance cameras.</a></p>
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