Here’s the Sunday Talking Head line-up. Some interesting potential here and there — take a peek and you’ll see what I mean. (Some via AP/AZDailyStar.)
ABC’s “This Week” — Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff; Sen. Joe Lieberman, I-Conn.
CBS’ “Face the Nation” — Sen. Richard Lugar, R-Ind.
NBC’s “Meet the Press” — Sen. Patrick Leahy, D-Vt.
CNN’s “Late Edition” — Chertoff; House Majority Whip James Clyburn, D-S.C., and Rep. Peter King, R-N.Y.; Lanny Davis, former Clinton special counsel; Ben Ginsberg, former counsel to the Republican National Committee; former national-security adviser Zbigniew Brzezinski; former Secretary of State Henry Kissinger.
“Fox News Sunday” — Chertoff; Michael Gallagher, conservative talk radio host; Mark Green of Air America Radio.
Sen. Leahy ought to be an excellent interview. Just based on his appearance at the habeas and rule of law restoration — and his level of snarky retorts about the state of the rule of law at the moment – that is one discussion that could get fun. Then again, it’s Meet Tim Russert, so I’m not exactly getting my hopes up. It’s early yet.
Also, the Zbig versus Kissinger discussion on CNN could get amusing. Last time those two were matched up on a foreign policy discussion, I got the distinct impression that Dr. Brzezenski wanted to laugh out loud at some of the things coming our of Dr. Kissinger’s mouth. And, frankly, I can’t say I blame him.
Michael Chertoff, the Bush Administration’s head of Homeland Security is book on a number of shows to talk about, I’m certain, the at least two bombs that the British diffused. If an interviewer wanted to ask a question worth asking, how about this one: what ever happened to the nothing to fear but fear itself attitude? Because, frankly, the all fear alla time attitude of te Bush Administration wore thin a helluva long time ago with me.
I’ll take this Kung Fu Monkey take on the world any day (H/T to egregious for the reminder on this):
Maybe it’s just, I cast my eyes back on the last century…
FDR: Oh, I’m sorry, was wiping out our entire Pacific fleet supposed to intimidate us? We have nothing to fear but fear itself, and right now we’re coming to kick your ass with brand new destroyers riveted by waitresses. How’s that going to feel?CHURCHILL: Yeah, you keep bombing us. We’ll be in the pub, flipping you off. I’m slapping Rolls-Royce engines into untested flying coffins to knock you out of the skies, and then I’m sending angry Welshmen to burn your country from the Rhine to the Polish border.
US. NOW: BE AFRAID!! Oh God, the Brown Bad people could strike any moment! They could strike … NOW!! AHHHH. Okay, how about .. NOW!! AAGAGAHAHAHHAG! Quick, do whatever we tell you, and believe whatever we tell you, or YOU WILL BE KILLED BY BROWN PEOPLE!! PUT DOWN THAT SIPPY CUP!!
… and I’m just a little tired of being on the wrong side of that historical arc.
This is it, folks. This is the world, from now on. Even assuming the War on Terror is a not just a bad metaphor and there is an actual measurable winning point*, the short 4GW struggles last fifty years or so. We’re going to be stopping one or two of these bastard mass-murder plots a year, minimum, for the rest of our lives. Hell, the way terror tactics and tech evolve, five years from now we’re going to be pining for the dudes with the flammable juice boxes.
It’s now part of our life. Let’s try not to hop like the trained monkeys every time it happens.
Would that some talking head personality would ask about this because, frankly, I could use some more proactive and a whole lot less “be afraid and then go to the mall.”
Today’s photo is of a great blue heron being dive-bombed by a red wing blackbird. It’s another great one from Julie’s Magic Light Show. Seemed appropriate, somehow, for the talking head shows. So, what’s catching your eye on the blogs or in the news this morning?
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Zed! My first one!
I talked to Herb Kohl yesterday morning in person. He gave me a blank look when I asked him to cosponsor the Habeas Corpus bill. I guess that wasn’t what he was expecting to hear at a state Dem convention.
All that’s on my mind right now is the question of how complicated it is to impeach a supreme court justice (or two).
Argh.
Good morning Christy! That part about the angry Welshmen always cracks me up.
What’s Chertoff all over the place for? To scare us because of the London bombings? I feel less safe everytime I see this guy. He’s a total loser, in charge of the biggest and costiest waste of time ever created in the US Gov. The DHS is a sham.
ABC’s “This Week”. My Gawd!
Leahy; Ok. Zbig; Ok.
As for the rest? Well…
Idiot shill of a caller to CSPAN just now says both parties are corrupt and people should vote for “independent” candidates like Ron Paul (R last I checked, though I like the cut of his jib) and Fred Thompson (R-FictionVille).
Good Morning everyone.
Julie Waters @ 2
There has been only one Supreme impeached (Chase). And he was acquitted.
Maybe I would feel different if I was in the UK rather than continental Europe, but reading the BBC news coverage of these latest attacks just gives me the impression that Al Qaeda sends its best ideas down the line first, and everything afterwards is completely bush-league (excuse the pun). The two Mercedes didn’t detonate and probably couldn’t. The Glasgow attack comprised two guys driving a car into a plate-glass window and setting themselves on fire. This is not mass-casualty terrorism.
A country that withstood decades of IRA terrorism is meant to be terrorised by losers like that? Sheesh. Hundreds died in the Madrid bombings – do you see the Spaniards snivelling and crying and carrying on like the Bush Administration and their media enablers?
There are only two types of Americans left: liberal/progressive/Democrats, and bedwetters.
It just floors me that Kissinger has any input whatsoever.
Just saw Prof ZB in CBC Canada: The program with one interruption of 3 min. went on for 27 minutes. The questions were probing and intelligent. Prof Brzezinski was superb. When you have time to reply and frame them with solid reasining and not sound bites you can convey your arguments more effectively. Other than PBS I have not seen a program of this kind in the US.
Finally saw one of the 01-20-09 stickers and laughed! Although, I hope it’s before 01-20-09!
yeah for speaker pelosi!
Congressional Leaders Skeptical of South Korea Trade Deal
that’s great – sounds like the pelosi and rangle are going back on their secret trade deal with bush. i hope!
this, however is just stupid. wish i knew who the “United States lawmakers” were:
Sorry to double-post but this is a good example of what I mean: (via BBC) Life should ‘go on’, says Salmond
OK Kiddo beat me to it,why in the fresh hell is Kissinger anywhere near our government now?
I swear,if the US gov’t is ever held accountable for it’s atrocious dealings,that man HAS to be the first one tried at The Hague.
If the Dems go into Nov. 2008 with these kinds of numbers, then we will lose. Most in my party are not paying attention to it’s base. Us.
My kind of terror alert:
http://www.geekandproud.net/terror/
anangryoldbroad @ 15
At the suggestion of an FDLer I borrowed The Price of Power – Kissinger in the Nixon Whitehouse by Seymour Hersh from the library. Very dense read, but I’m giving it a go.
KLynn @ 12
Finally saw one of the 01-20-09 stickers and laughed! Although, I hope it’s before 01-20-09!
I have it on a hat that says 1.20.09 Bush’s Last Day.
Have gotten some nice compliments on it. Yesterday, the National Guard was set up doing a big thing in Indy in the park across the street from me. from those guys, umm, no compliments.
ABC is covering the issues from A to B
CBS is covering from A to A
CNN is covering A to D (although Zbig v Hank should have a little smack down)
Fox is actually showing a little broader perspective of from A to G
And Leahy has to play “gotcha” with Mr Punkinhaid.
I’m glad I can find old movies to watch.
Happy Canada Day to all my fellow Canadians (and all you Canuck wannabes).
A nice cup of Joe Conason
Funny about the “be afraid and then go to the mall.” After 9/11, one of the hot theories that abounded was that Mall of America was/is a natural place for terrorists to wreak havoc, given that the daily population of MOA numbers around 100,000, including people from all over the world.
So while my brave journalist friend, Linda, went out to buy body armor for her pending trip to Afghanistan a month after 9/11, I established my own beachhead and went to the Mall of America. How’s that for guts?! NOT.
But every time this happens, we need one or more credible voices to remind us that BushCo survives and thrives on terror. It is mother’s milk to those piglets.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 10
kissinger will tell bush what he wants to hear.
zbig will not.
I WILL NOT BE AFRAID of the terrorists. I’m very afraid of my government.
That said, Leahy would be a great view if it weren’t for the fact he’s on Timmeh’s show. I hope he’s loaded for bear and gets that message across.
Teddy had a long piece on Late Night cut from the Wiki re impeaching a justice. Last time was Ford going after Douglas. Long story short—It didn’t work and lead to the politicization of Scotus.
KLynn @ 12
Got one on my car and got the countdown key chain too. The battery died on the keychain :-(
Noonan @ 1
Noonan!! And his response (besides the blank look, I mean)?
Julie Waters @ 2
Article Three, Section 1 of the Constitution (via Wikipedia) (emphasis mine):
What case law and/or statutes, if any, define good behavior?
RevDeb @ 24
This needs to become our theme song!
GeorgeSimian @ 4
Maybe you wouldn’t feel that way if you were one of the many child molesters who has been on the payroll of the DHS, until little Sheriff Departments in Florida and elsewhere managed to do this part of the DHS’ mandate and apprehend them. For awhile there, like when they took down the high up mucky-muck IN CHARGE of the child protection arm of DHS and some others, it seemed as if being a child molester was a condition of employment by DHS.
If ya need a little Sunday AM laugh, go to the NYTimes web site and on either their National page or Washington page, check out the thumbnail of Mel Martinez. Talk about someone totally dumbfounded and clueless!
The NYT seems to think the Dems might actually file the contempt citations. Anyone else think so? I’m kind of tired of being let down by our side.
Nice pix at the top.
Another weird thing about the National Guard business. After the dust-up with the Guard recruiter threatening to kill my son, I found out that the recruiter was actually employed by a company called Docupak, Inc which pays $2,000 bounties for each recruit. The company is a one-man show (one guy is pres, sole incorporator, and registered agent), and advertises itself as a marketing firm.
There was a Nascar car there, the #25, for gawking and pictures, etc. It was being hauled by a truck owned by (printed right on the side) Docupak, Inc. Very strange, I think. There’s something odd going on there; I’ve thrown away all the research I did on them, but as to the president of the company, I could find nothing about him on Google, but the guy’s obviously connected very high, somewhere, with somebody.
RevDeb @ 24
i’m not very afraid of my government for myself (although i have been photographed for standing at a silent peace vigil, and i’ve been tear gassed and pepper sprayed while a volunteer legal observer for the NLG.
i’m more afraid of what they can do – bomb iran… or are doing – bombing iraqis and afghanis, torturing people. and i’m afraid of what they are doing to change my country and harm the planet.
Leahy
Vermont
Impeach
No more talking
Fresh air
Unseal everything
“what ever happened to the nothing to fear but fear itself attitude? Because, frankly, the all fear alla time attitude of te Bush Administration wore thin a helluva long time ago with me.”
;0)
GeorgeSimian @ 31
link?
Exile—for the employees, fringe benefits including that their behavior could be hidden as secret and related to national security concerns. [throwing up] For the employers, a really nifty way to ensure the employees would do anything they said, or else off to prison. Win/win. Except maybe for the children.
Never mind. Mr Punkinhaid is leading off with Chertoff.
theExile @ 29
Why do we need the DHS to do what the police are supposed to do anyway?
This is the thing about the DHS. The problem they found after 9/11 was that the FBI and the CIA weren’t communicating properly. Somehow, and this is logic only a bureaucrat could understand, the solution was to create ANOTHER AGENCY to do the same job as the FBI and the CIA. Forget about actually addressing the real problem. And then, Bush decided to dump a bunch of agencies that he wanted to get rid of into the DHS, and then filled it with incompetent people so that the conservatives could say that big government doesn’t work. And the DHS is filled to the brim with privatized contracts and exchanged favors – its the biggest branch of government! What a scandal. And we’ll never get rid of it now. There’s too much money to be made.
sorry for the rant, but some things get me going.
Lindy @ 26
That was about it. He did the Herb Kohl smile.
I cannot, under any circumstances, deal with Mr. Chertoff.
Christy -
One of your best bird pix selections yet……….took a second look to determine it wasn’t some lovely piece of ancient Chinese artwork.
‘Morning, Christy, FirePups. One of these days I’m going to have to send you a mess of bird pics, Christy; my son is a bird freak and I must now have several hundred decent bird photos because of his birding obsession.
downunder girl — would you do me the favor of reposting that wonderful comment of yours at DailyKos under the “Poor judgment” diary? They were chastising Larry Johnson’s post yesterday as excessively dismissive; I don’t think I’d ever chastise somebody of Larry’s cred, can’t imagine it.
selise @ 37
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/07…..ref=slogin
Pat Leahy on Timmeh:
Really, coulda fooled me!
Ok, that was just weird. I was trying to say Kohl just gave me his typical smile, shook my hand and tried to leave (he was due to give a speech). My wife had his aide tied up because they both went to the 2004 Inauguration as part of “Turn Your Back on Bush”.
He really had no comment. He didn’t say “no comment” just just didn’t comment. Even after I thanked him for his remarks and vote in SJC, he just smiled and turned to leave.
His office needs more calls.
37, Abuse of Executive Privilege from the Times.
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/07…..ref=slogin
This is dedicated to my Democratic Party. Get yourself together.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MieDFkhlByo
Punkinhaid worried about a constitutional crisis. Leahy states “We’re not the ones choosing confrontation.”
Punkinhaid is all a twitter about Leahy’s words of “using the full force of the law” on the subpoenas. Leahy is calm, measured in his words.
GeorgeSimian @ 31
found it – link
don’t know… seems like the NYT editors are recommending it.
but speaker pelosi has recently indicated that the oversight is not to re-assert the rule of law, it’s about the 2008 elections (especially the white house) and then restore the rule of law…. (see mike stark’s dkos diary)
pow wow explains it better.
Punkinhaid TOTALLY pushing the BushCo meme but he’s serving them up as softballs to Leahy and Leahy is taking some healthy cuts and smacking them out of the park.
Oh, speaking of WI Senators, I thanked Russ for all the work he’s done for us. I mentioned FDL and he smiled.
His speech was by far the highlight of the convention. Heavy on getting us out of Iraq and even paid kudos to the R’s starting to speak out against the war, although he hoped they were not “just Sunday morning votes”.
Russ (or staffers) if you’re reading this, the sloppy joes were not very good this year.
jayt & RevDeb-
You would have loved my 14 year old son when he saw the sticker.
“Do you get that sticker in front of us with the date?”(laughing)
“Yes I do!” (laughing)
“I have GOT to have a t-shirt with that on it. Do you think if I wear it to school they will suspend me?” (laughing)
KLynn @ 54
Here you go.
Just saw a photo of the president and his daughter Barbara on a fishing boat — wouldn’t you think that even if they didn’t care about water safety rules and suggestions they’d at least be aware that their picture’s going everywhere: Wear lifejackets, fercryinoutloud! Lovely message they’re sending instead.
nice! al gore has an oped in the NYT, Moving Beyond Kyoto
i especially like the conclusion:
what a difference from the neocon vision.
I wish i had time for these shows today, Christy. I’ve got work though.
OT.
I went and bought Lord of Light by Roger Zelzany. I plan to start reading it today, if i get the time. *grins* Nothing like a good dose of mythology/scifi to put modern politicking in perspective. And we WILL take things back or get them done. I know it, we’re just waiting for a time to strike, methinks. a sure hit, compared to a near miss.
Joe F’n Lieberman feels very strongly that we must wait until September to decide if we should take action. July should be out of the question. He’s referring to Nazi Germany and Iran – we did not move soon enough to take care of Nazis and we must not leave Iraq for fear of Iran.
Other Pat @ 56
Just saw a photo of the president and his daughter Barbara on a fishing boat — wouldn’t you think that even if they didn’t care about water safety rules and suggestions they’d at least be aware that their picture’s going everywhere: Wear lifejackets, fercryinoutloud! Lovely message they’re sending instead.
Was that NotJenna in the black dress? I thought it looked like Mary Louise Parker, and that I was gonna have to put an end to my unrequited love affair with her.
President Gore!
Joe just announced that he will support the right person, not based on party, for the next election.
Other Pat @ 56
The only thing wrong with this picture is that Darth Cheney ain’t also aboard and w/o a life jacket…..oh yeah and the lack of a 50 foot rogue wave approaching in the background!
Can you tell which is Skeletor and which is Michael Chertoff?
A cousin Ben Chertoff, wrote a “debunking 9-11 conspiracy theories” article for Popular Mechanics. The cousin denied being related to Skeletor, although this story was quickly debunked by Skeletor’s mother. Incidentaly, the Attack on the Pentagon, was recorded by hundreds of cameras (which are owned by taxpayers). The best way to debunk these Tin Foil Hat Dirty Hippies is to release these pictures.
Note, we keep hearing “no attacks since 9-11″. The Anthrax Attacks seem to have been totally forgotten, especially by Chertoff, and these remains totally unsolved.
My party doesn’t seem to understand my rage surrounding the Lieberman situation.
Boston1775 @ 62
So who is the most rabid hawk in the bunch? That would be Joe’s dream candidate.
jayt @ 60
Was that NotJenna in the black dress? I thought it looked like Mary Louise Parker, and that I was gonna have to put an end to my unrequited love affair with her.
Must be a different photo — NotJenna’s wearing a baggy sweatshirt. Only Ann Coulter would wear a black dress to go fishin’.
theExile @ 63
You forget that W goes nowhere without his SS “training wheels” close by. They’re probably floating about 15′ from his boat at all times. Gotta keep that bubble intact.
Is there some legal reason why my party cannot stop Lieberman from caucusing with the Democrats?
Morning everyone. Just woke up…man, did I need some sleep. Nothing like waking up to a fresh pot of coffee and a pan of baked cinnamon rolls. (Put them out to rise last night and Mr. ReddHedd popped them in the oven this morning. Nummy!)
Now I ask you. Who would you rather have a dinner date with? Paris, Jenna, or the other one?
Oklahoma kiddo @ 71
I’d rather starve.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 71
I can’t believe I’m typing this but Paris. She at least recognizes her vapidity.
ABC this week: Bay Buchanan just made the arguments that underpin the theory that “separate but equal” is okay. Welcome to 1896.
jayt @ 19
I have it on a hat that says 1.20.09 Bush’s Last Day.
Have gotten some nice compliments on it. Yesterday, the National Guard was set up doing a big thing in Indy in the park across the street from me. from those guys, umm, no compliments.
like Marian of Savanah says:
“that’s the day the Village of Crawford gets it’s idiot back.”
Scarecrow @ 74
She’s thrilled and delighted about this.
She also said that Cheney is inspiring
Was it Edward R. Murrow who said, “A nation of sheep breeds a government of wolves?” or something like that.
donna brazile seems to admire cheney?
selise @ 79
Bay Buchanan
selise @ 79
Those out of power admire those gathering more power?
I’m glad I can’t see her permagrin. I hate watching her.
Waccamaw @ 43
Heh. It was dumb luck, too. I was taking pictures of the heron with that “hey, what the heck– I’ve got lots of great heron pics but this one might turn out cool, too.” Then I realized I needed to change the camera settings and just then the blackbird showed up. Then I took lots more pictures, and fortunately one worked :)
Boston1775 @ 80
yes… but it sounded like donna too. yuck.
Boston1775 @ 62
This may be why he’s stating that. He is putting something “other” than the US as his policy priority.
By the way, Glenn Greenwald’s post yesterday was an important must read.
The panel discussion on ABC’s “this week” must be the most vacuous I’ve ever seen. They show the Coulter appearance and Mrs. Edwards’ efforts to stop the personal flaming, and the panel just talks about the effect on fund raising.
I’m coming to the conclusion that America is virtually lost, dead, allowed to die on the sidewalk by the likes of George Stephanopulous and his oh-so-reasonable guests, who are just stepping over the body while they comment on how uncouth it is for people to die in public, and I’m looking for signs of intelligent life in DC. Where is it?
so many dead kids…
‘Up to 80 civilians dead’ after US air strikes in Afghanistan
Air strikes in the British-controlled Helmand province of Afghanistan may have killed civilians, coalition troops said yesterday as local people claimed that between 50 and 80 people, many of them women and children, had died.
Wanker of the day, perhaps?
P.S. From the comments:
TeddySanFran wrote:
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ifthethunderdontgetya wrote:
“As long as the candidates are not drowned out, those other voices should be welcomed in our democracy — not deplored. That’s what the Roberts decision is saying.”
No, Wanker Dave. What the Roberts court is saying is that money has the right to free speech. Actual individuals, not so much.
And don’t ever presume to speak for liberals, you cocktail-weenie scarfing neocon appeasing Beltway apparatchik.
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ifthethunderdontgetya wrote:
LoL @ TSF.
6/30/2007 9:48:30 PM
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GeorgeSimian @ 4
As far as I remember, Hillary Clinton wholeheartedly supported its creation. Another point where I did not get where she is coming from.
The same show that laughed about Dick Cheney is now showing the list of 33 US service people killed this week in Iraq and Afghanistan.
Their brains have become disconnected from reality.
Bush is a monster. And I want this man held accountable.
Just found a blog with Edward R. Murrow quotes.
Edward R. Murrow quotes
Scarecrow @ 85
i think matt stoller lives in DC?
Bernard Kerik on MSNBC now as “counter-terrorism expert” wtf?
pushing more fear of course – but – when did this guy get his credibility back? Did I miss something?
selise @ 94
My dad lives in D.C. Unfortunately, people like my dad have been displaced by people like Sally Quinn.
MoDo is funny today.
mulligatawny @ 89
A lot of reasonable folks were in favor of creating DHS and if you recall, The Chimpenfuhrer was very much against it in the beginning. But what the reasonable folks failed to understand was that Chimpy is so bloody incompetent that once he agreed, the odds for success plummeted to near nothing. They made it the catch-all, omnibus agency with no chance of actually being utilized in any coherent logical fashion.
jayt @ 94
Has this man (Kerik) been indicted?
selise @ 94
This is true, but if you’re not allowed on the platforms that affect public opinion, you do not exist for these people. I wish Matt and those he speaks for all the best.
Julie Waters @ 82
Hey, don’t knock serendipity! *g* Would you be willing to id some generalized location?
Oklahoma kiddo @ 98
He’s in Jordan and reportedly about to face a federal indictment in the U.S.
Recent article from Talk Left.
I am an insurgent and a militant.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 98
On June 30, 2006, after an eighteen month investigation conducted by the Bronx District Attorney’s Office, Kerik pled guilty to two ethics violations (unclassified misdemeanors) and was ordered to pay $221,000 in fines at the 10-minute hearing.[4]
On March 31, 2007, The Associated Press reported that Kerik rejected a plea bargain agreement with federal prosecutors who are investigating allegations of tax evasion for failing to declare the gifts that he received from the New Jersey contractors. Kerik is also under investigation for conspiracy to eavesdrop on the conversations of the husband of Jeanine Pirro, whom Ms. Pirro was suspecting was having an affair.[7]
from wiki.
And there was a time, many years ago, I would have been called a savage.
Chertoff strokes fear for the fourth of July on MTP.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 102
You’re just begging to be investigated by the FBI…or perhaps have your phone tapped.
If you can’t tell, I am getting sick of all of the information coming out about who has been tapped. GRRRRR!!!!
I was reading one of Susan Matthews’s books where she uses ‘reasonable people’ to mean ‘corrupt or corruptable’. It strikes me that that’s what we’ve got: a government full of reasonable people, and ‘reporters’ who are reasonable people. (The rest of us don’t have enough money to even get their attention.)
Scarecrow @ 99
i know, you’re right. there’s an important catholic worker house in DC too…. has been for decades. they don’t get invited to the sunday talk shows either.
was just trying to find a bit of hope in anotherwise bleak bit of sunday morning tv watching.
my tv hasn’t been on in days (weeks?)… i’m reminded why.
Arrgh. First ‘reason’ in #107 should be ‘reading’.
mulligatawny @ 89
I know. It was recommended from the 911 commision, if I remember right. Just a bad idea, made worse because Bush gutted it, but a bad idea to start with.
janda @ 106
Let them investigate me. I’m up for it. ;0)
Cherkoff on the “surge” of air marshall’s for the homeland – Deutschland fer allis!! Seig Heil, Herr Homeland Directorr!!
marcy has an inspiring post up on gore’s oped.
Today we are buying a high efficiency front loading washing machine. I’m so excited I can’t wait to do the laundry in it. Is that weird?
Leahy – What was the legal justification they were following for wiretapping ordinary Americans.
He tells Tim that they can wiretap him, check his bank account if he says something they don’t like on NBC.
They have taken the position that they are above the law. Congress or courts can’t question them. This is a Nixonian position.
Now Michael Scheuer on MSNBC criticizing Kerik for not being scary enough.
Jeebus.
Boston1775 @ 115
Did Timmy reply that he knows that and that is why he is Cheney’s sock puppet?
leahy says he will support contempt if the administration doesn’t comply (although it will be up to the whole congress).
Kerik. Rudy’s boy.
Oy veh! Chertoff and Lieberman trying to scare us to death again! Someone ought to tell Holy Joe that the policy of “fighting over there so we don’t have to fight them over her” ain’t working too well.
cathy @ 114
Today I’ve got to rent a car, drive to Cincinnati for a property inspection, and then to Toledo for more of same, finally back to Columbus. I’d be much more excited to be getting a new washing machine!
:)
Take care, good people.
Rove is running out the clock. It’s not complicated.
selise @ 113
;0)
Devil’s Advocate @ 120
Bushite policy ain’t working so good for Isr**l either. Why does Joe hate Isr**l?
Scarecrow @ 85
As blogging becomes more visible, it’s this medium that will become the vehicle for truth, transparency and effective civil discourse. The broadsheets of Boston and Philadelphia are now the posts of Glenn Greenwald, Jane Hamsher, Christy Hardin Smith, Josh Marshall, and all of us who read, comment and blog. And this time, the message doesn’t stop when the printer runs out of ink. The message is virtual and virtually penetrable everywhere. MSM still has a death grip on the “message.” But it no longer controls the message, nor does it control the number of messages.
Leahy has explained again and again that Nixon is in the background here.
Nixon, Reagan and Bush. Three GOP giants.
Patience my arse…
Impeach Bush on the 4th of July
http://www.boston.com/news/wor…..e_on_iraq/
Boston1775 @ 126
It’s worse than Nixon. Just for example, they now have the technology to follow each of us as we type these comments. No phone call goes unrecorded (at least in terms of number to number, time, etc) faxes can be traced to individual machines as can color printers. With Nixon at least you had to stay on the phone long enough for the call to be traced.
We are well beyond Nixon.
The US Congress will take back its full trade authority from President George Bush, the majority Democratic leadership said while dismissing White House pleas to let him keep his special power.
Nancy Pelosi: “Our legislative priorities do not include renewal of fast-track authority” [AP]
Boston1775 @ 126
Someone else is also in the background, according to what I see in Newsweek: Eleanor Clift on Dick Cheney’s Dangerous Influence
Oklahoma kiddo @ 129
three cheers for speaker pelosi!!!
on MTP, i just heard three versions of the “the president is unpopular”.
whohoo. the gang of 500 has figured it out?
selise—I think it’s Bush faction v. Cheney faction. Popcorn?
SUV’s kill more people than terrorists.
The war on bad table manners will last forever just like the war’s, (battles), with Drugs, Poverty, Crime and Terrorism.
We should be embarrased that our culture is represented by W and Paris. Horrified that sci-fi characters like Chaney and Kissenger exist.
We must thank all the powers that be for hot cinnamon buns of any description.
If there are 11 Democrats in Oklahoma.
and I have 9 cousins in Oklahoma, two are Democrats than Kevin Bacon must be having cinnabuns for breky also and I met the Kiddo at a wedding.
“an internet post is more powerful than an Abrams tank”
selise @ 133
Given that they and the rest of the beltway are a year behind the rest of the country, I’d have to say, no they haven’t. My guess is they say the preznit is unpopular with a look of incredulity and a tone of befuddlement since it is so incomprehensible to their fawning and cocktail circuit stylings…
New thread…
Christy upstairs hitting the links
RevDeb @ 24
Did you catch the chatter about Bob Woodward’s comments on our secret government at the Bucknell College commencement? Just Google “woodward secret government” without the quotes.
and re Kissinger:
Catch Charlie Rose Special Edition (auditorium & audience) with Zbiggy, Kissinger and Scowcroft. Brezinski presented the critical insights & assessments, Kissinger provided a few well-timed bits of humor ala Groucho Marx, and Scowcroft daydreamed of being somewhere else, like mowing his lawn.
Waccamaw @ 100
I’d be willing to id as an exact location as I can describe.
First, the original picture is here– that IDs it as being at Dead Creek Wildlife Management area in Vermont. Dead Creek is between rte 22A and the NY Border at Lake Champlain, off rte 17 in Adisson, VT. Traveling on rte 17W from 22A, you’ll see a viewing area on the left– you can often see Snow Geese from there during migration period, but this time of year all you see is tree swallows, house & song sparrows and occasionally a Harrier hunting in the field. Sometimes you can see eagles or osprey.
If you continue past the viewing area, your next left is the road to Bryella pond access area. If you follow that road, you’ll reach a (very) small bridge. As you cross over the bridge, there is a large open water area on the right and a reedy marshy area on the left. I spotted this particular heron on the left side, but you can see them in multiple locations.
I’ve taken some great pictures at Dead Creek, many of which can be found here.
Fresh thread for everyone.
Protest sign I made a while back…
NOTHING TO FEAR
BUT BUSH HIMSELF
Oklahoma kiddo @ 10
For twenty-five years I called Kissinger the most evil person of the twentieth century. At least I knew where Hitler stood. He was in your face but Kissinger is insidious. Here we are well into the twenty-first century and Kissinger is still around. He’s like Rasputin – goes on and on and on.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 111
i knew the adults weren’t in charge when, right off the bat, Teddy Kennedy turned up on the “no fly” list. i could hear rover haw haw-ing in the background… couldn’t you?
Right on cue, and embarrassingly predictable, Chimperor Fucktardius’ second favorite poodle, Joe LIEberman steps up to the plate to exploit FLAMING CARS IN ENGLAND to support Darth Cheney’s Republicunt attempt to convert the United States of Amnesia into a one party, totalitarian, fascist police state. Joe Lieberman: Quisling of the day
‘A country that withstood decades of IRA terrorism is meant to be terrorised by losers like that?’
Thanks for that! But the other thing that some of us Brits want to say is : ‘this isn’t all about you.’ That goes for Liebermen, but I’m afraid it also goes for those (pardon my French) f***wits in some parts of the liberal blogosphere – but I hasten to add, not here – who seem to think that this has all been orchestrated to distract attention from Cheney and potential contempt issues.
While it’s probably escaped a lot of people’s notice, we’ve recently acquired a new prime minister in the UK – and, more noticeably a new foreign minister with a trak record of skepticism about British involvment in Iraq. (no link, but check out the Guardian Unlimited site.)
(I’m not saying – of course – that those who want to distract from Republican crimes might not be playing up the news on this for their own agendas. Of course they are. But *everyone* discussing this in the US needs to step back and realıse they are not ın the front lıne of thıs partıcular set of attacks)
Oklahoma kiddo @ 87
We know Al Qaeda isn’t in Afghanistan any more (scared off to the border areas in Pakistan), so why exactly are we still there? Bring ‘em home!