I suspect – and I will have to ask my sources – that the big difference is that the Iraqi people are more capable of fighting back – recent military leadership and experience, access to arms, more room to maneuver, etc.

We left the Vietnam bases behind when the war ended, and we will have have to do it again in Iraq because the Iraqis will eventually ask us to leave, and the people of our country will want us to leave as well.

This video is important and should have the widest distribution possible. Thanks for posting it.

Perhaps Mr Ware – who at times is quite competent – should learn a bit about Hizbollah.

hate2haggle @ 109

Who among the the candidates for 08 think we need permanent bases in Iraq?

That’s the key question. Where do we go from here with $$ billions of steel and poured concrete? What will a Dem president do in Jan ‘09? Abandon built bases?

Hillary has already stated that there will need to be a long term presense of some kind.

“The Americans say he, along with the Iraqi militia commanders he worked with, has admitted working with Iran’s elite Quds Force special operations unit.”

http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/me…llah/ index.html

Hard to find faith in humans, given what they’ve done to us, and what we’ve enabled, while we were enjoying the American Pie they fed us . . .

Nope. Haven’t been asleep. Yes, have been paying attention. And being an activist for years. Don’t need your sarcasm.

And I know that cynicism ain’t a solution.

. . .Uh, no. We need to leave.

‘Splain to me, how you see that ever happening.
Please.

We KNOW we need to leave, problem is we are NOT leaving . . . so, please explain ÅNY sense of hope or actual scenerio wherby we Do leave, other n we get our asses slaughtered completely.

Cuz we ain’t leaving.

Once the progressives ACCEPT that we ARE NOT LEAVING, and that we are OUTNUMBERED in NOT LEAVING, both Pub’s and Dem’s, cuz Big Bro OWNS OUR LIVES, then we can begin to strategize HOW to turn things around.

Until then, it’s a fantasy too many Pups in this lake are dreaming of.

Harumph.

So, once America leaves Iraq, the Iraqis will kill every al-Qaeda member they can locate. If we wan’t to destroy al-Qaeda in Iraq we should leave it to the Sunni Arabs to do it.

And the innocents, Sunni and Shiite alike? What will happen to them when the hate-for-all begins?

Who will stand up for peace and mediation? Who will the diplomats be? Hand-wringing and finger-pointing won’t absolve any of us from our share of this fiasco. If we don’t have a government that works, then we need some other means of reaching out.

Laura, we CREATED the hate and destruction.

There will be NO peace, no mediation.

We either subdue them, or they kill the shit outta us and drive us home.

So, the worst case scenerio will apply.

Time to adapt to the worst, the best is laughable to consider, and reality dictates the bad guys are in charge . . have you slept the past 3 decades since Newt’s Contract On America and didnt’ see this coming?

Or, are you new to history? These are dark times. Very little hope . . . unless the american people, and what’s left in Oversight Comittee’s, can turn it around . . but it’s 30 years or more of pure anti Republic . . . top to bottom.

Hard to find faith in humans, given what they’ve done to us, and what we’ve enabled, while we were enjoying the American Pie they fed us . . .