I’m not American. I’m Canadian.
So it’s odd then that I write so much about America and I care so much about what happens in America. Part of it is practicality – Canada is a US client state and American politics affect Canadians. When you throw away your freedoms, ours will soon follow (our government just launched its own “no-fly list”, for example and after you put out the Patriot Act we put out our own version.)
But part of it is just that I care about America and the American experiment.
Those of us who didn’t grow up in America, but under the sway of America’s media, imbibed a very pure form of the American mythos and civic religion. The American Civil Religion, with it’s secular saints such as Jefferson, Hamilton and Washington and it’s written Constitutional scripture is also a source of wonderment. Canada has no equivalent, no deep sense of history, no touchstone that is written back to to justify the present. Those words of your founders, those words that resound through history are words that inspire men and women who have never seen America and never will.
The Declaration of Independence spoke to all humans, with its assertion that all men are created equal and have unalienable rights. The US system of government, with its checks and balances, seemed unique and able to take shocks that might topple other democratic forms of government.
The Statue of Liberty, holding its torch aloft in New York’s harbor, proclaimed that in America the wretched masses of the world might find a home, hope, liberty and opportunity.
And, of course, there was the US’s role in both World War II and the Cold War. When Europe was in chains, America freed it. It may be true that the German army died in the plains of Russia, but without the US, all of Europe would have fallen into the gray pit of Russian rule and despair.
Truly, in the Cold War, America stood astride the word facing off against an evil empire. Reagan was right when he called the USSR evil – it was a totalitarian nightmare, and opposing it; keeping it in check, was the moral thing to do.
None of this is to say that America was always “the good” – there was Vietnam, there was complicity in various dictatorships; there was a distressing tendency to meddle, especially in Latin America – there were, in short, many places where America fell short of its own ideals.
Yet, in all, America was still the shining city on the hill. Even those who disliked it, when asked “well, what hegemonic nation, past or present, would be preferable to America”, were stilled. In truth, as superpowers go, America was about the best one could hope for – power corrupted, but it had not corrupted absolutely.
And when the Berlin Wall went down, and the USSR with it, and the US stood astride the world, the sole unchallenged superpower, at first absolutely powerful, it was not corrupted absolutely. In the Cold War there had been no question the US needed allies and friends and there had been an acknowledgment that nations pushed too far might slip into the other camp. Perhaps the USSR wasn’t an ideal patron – but the possibility was always there if the US abused its position too much. And certainly the thought of pre-emptive US use of nukes against non-nuclear nations wasn’t even considered – the USSR stood ready, with missiles aimed at America, to ensure that would not happen.
In the 90’s America mostly either used its power responsibly, or at worst, didn’t use it when some hoped it would, as in the Rwandan genocide, or the slowness in dealing with the Balkans. If the new fascination with “globalization” and the fetishization of “free trade”, which mostly meant “free flow of money and investments” dismayed many, still it wasn’t outwardly violent and continued the American habit of binding its empire together less with troops than with alliances and economic ties that often amounted to dependency.
And then the Bush years happened. George Bush, with the acquiescence of Congress and the consent of the majority of voters, who elected him in 2004, made the US a unilateral actor on the world stage, a country that engaged in pre-emptive war and threatens to use nuclear weapons in a first strike. A nation, moreover, which has repudiated the freedoms that the rest of the world admired it for, has engaged in torture, struck down habeas corpus and openly mocked the Geneva Conventions.
America had become, in the eyes of the world, un-American.
The America we loved – the America which, if it did not always match words to ideals, still seemed to move more in jerks and starts towards those ideals, died, choking, gasping, in front of our very eyes.
What is so sad about this, to me, is that if America had lived up to its own ideals, America would be safer.
No Pre-Emptive War
Americans hung a lot of Nazis for the crime of pre-emptive war. Men who were in no way involved in the Holocaust swung high at Nuremberg because they attacked other countries that hadn’t attacked them first.
The Iraq war, a war which was based on lies, and sold on classic Big Lie techniques, with 70% of Americans believing Iraq was behind 9/11, has made the US less safe, not more, by giving millions of Muslims reason to hate America. The next generation of terrorists are being terrorized right now, and as with most violent criminals, they will do unto others as was done unto them.
And the current surge in nuclear proliferation can be laid in large part at the feet of the Iraq War, the lesson of which was not “if you have nukes we’ll take you out”, but “if you don’t have nukes we can take you out. And if you do have nukes like North Korea we’ll talk and make impotent and meaningless threats.” (The second reason, of course, is that the US continually violates the non-proliferation treaty itself, making non-nuclear powers wonder why they should obey it either.)
If the US had not invaded Iraq there would be less terrorists in the world today and in the future. There would be less proliferation of nuclear weapons. By doing the right thing morally, the right thing in the American tradition, the US would be safer and richer.
American Generosity
Afghanistan fell to the Taliban in the 90’s in large part because the US abandoned it. When Afghanis were fighting the USSR, US aid and money flowed in. When the USSR fell, Afghanis thought that they would receive significant aid from America. None came and the country fell to the Taliban. When Afghanistan falls again to the Taliban, as it almost certainly will, it will be because America and its NATO allies couldn’t be bothered to make Afghanistan work for Afghanis. For years the Afghanis were patient, sidelined the Taliban and from all indications hoped that the Coalition would make things better in Afghanistan. That didn’t happen (because all the effort was in Iraq, and because NATO is resentful at being forced to clean up Afghanistan and thus unwilling to put in the money) and slowly the worm is turning. The Taliban, for years marginalized, is making new inroads, and Afghanis themselves are showing that they are tired of being occupied without anything getting better.
Oddly enough, the same is true in Iraq. During the early period after the invasion there wasn’t much resistance to the occupation. During that time a Marshall Plan variant might well have turned the ill-thought invasion into a success. But instead of letting money get into the hands of Iraqis, instead of making it so Iraqis were better off under the coalition, the Bush administration insisted on rewarding its cronies with jobs, and Republican associated companies with huge contracts they mostly couldn’t fulfill. (My favourite being hiring an American company to rebuild a bridge at 20 times the cost an Iraqi engineering firm, which had built the bridge in the first place, offered to fix it for.)
In both cases being American – which is to say, generous, would have served the US better than trying to be stingy and engage in domestic pork barrel politics. And, oddly, being generous to the Iraqis and the Afghanis would have cost less as well, because butter is cheaper than guns, and Iraqis and Afghanis work for a lot less than Americans on the military-industrial dole.
Doing the right thing morally would have made the US safer and cost less money.
American Respect for Human and Civil Rights
In America, all men have unalienable rights. The way this is written isn’t “all citizens” either – it implies all of humanity. If you are human, you have these rights, they are granted solely because you are human and thus cannot be taken away. Primary among these rights is the right to a fair trial before punishment; to habeas corpus; to not be subject to cruel and unusual punishment (which surely includes water boarding and being raped) and to freedom from arbitrary search and seizure (which includes being wiretapped without a judge issuing a warrant).
Guantanamo Bay and Abu Ghraib, where “suspects” have been held without trial; have been tortured, and where there have been repeated attempts to end Habeas rights, are exhibit A. These prison camps have tarnished America’s image abroad as it hasn’t been smeared since the Philippines war of occupation. For billions around the world, the indelible image of America today may not be the Statue of Liberty, as it was to my generation – but a hooded man with electrodes attached to him.
This destruction of America’s image has destroyed much of America’s soft power. Neocons may sneer, but when you aren’t the good guy you don’t get as many people willing to spy for you (nor are they the best spies, since the ones who remain are those motivated mostly by greed.) You don’t get as many informants (and informants are the best way to deal with terrorists). Many governments see no reason to cooperate with you, so to get anything you must use force or the threat of force.
As with people who are distrusted or despised, nations who are distrusted or despised find it much harder to get their way.
American Respect for Free Speech
It may seem odd, but few things incense me more than “free speech zones” (which, for the record, started under Clinton, not Bush, though Bush has extended them greatly.) And I think that shuffling dissent off where it can’t be seen by people in power has done great damage to the health of American democracy. Those of us who watch politics regularly are constantly amazed by how “out of touch” Americas elites are. The Washington bubble isn’t made of soap-suds, it’s made of blast hardened concrete and Congressmen vote against the majority of Americans preferred interests all the time (the majority want the war ended, the majority want universal health care, the majority don’t think oil companies need subsidies, and so on.)
Part of why they do it is that they are insulated from the real world, from the world that the rest of America lives in. George Bush, the most extreme case, is so isolated that even showing a negative sign along his motorcade’s passage is forbidden. In both the Democratic and Republican conventions, protesters were shut so far away from the conventions that convention-goers might never have known they were even there.
I grew up thinking all of America was a free speech zone, not just special little areas chosen so as to make sure that the elites would never have to witness someone who was angry at the decisions they had made. And if America really was a free speech zone, America might be better off, because there is nothing worse for any nation than for its elites to live in a bubble.
A Hatred for Aristocracy, Inherited Wealth and Power
America was founded in explicit rejection of aristocracy and inherited power. An American, I was taught, bowed to no one. And for most of two centuries, America tended to have less disparities of income and wealth than other western nations. Oh aye, during the gilded age, there were great disparities within America, but they were still less than in Britain, or France, or most of Europe. And America had the most social mobility – you really did have the most chance to make it to the top from the bottom (though this remained rare, despite the ideal.)
That’s no longer the case – America is the Western nation with the most inequality of any. And social mobility is dropping through the floor – a generation ago it was higher than almost anywhere, but the evidence coming in now is that if you aren’t born well off, your odds of moving up in the world are worse than they have been in generations. Meanwhile the tax code has been jiggered to remove much of the Estate Tax and to benefit unearned money over that earned by an honest day’s work. America is becoming a nation where power and money are inherited, where the rich get richer and where the working and middle classes are expected to borrow from their betters at usurious interest rates to make ends meet.
As this has occurred, and not coincidentally, Americas trade, balance of payment and government deficits have soared. Its savings rate has crumbled to the point where it is less than zero; to where the rest of the world is sending most of its savings to the US, and all those savings can barely keep the US economy above water.
The right thing to do, the American thing to do – to fight against entrenched wealth and power, especially multi-generational money, would have left the US stronger economically. The collapse of demand caused by sending profits preferentially to the rich and corporations was the prime cause of the last Great Depression.
Be American
Those of us who grew up in other countries; those of use who are America’s real friends, want what all good friends want for those they care for – that you live up to your own ideals. That you be the nation we know you can be. A bastion of freedom; a nation with the highest respect for civil rights; a country that never gives up “a little freedom for a little safety” and finding neither. A country that doesn’t torture, that believes that pre-emptive war is never excusable.
And we want it for you not just because it’d be best for the rest of the world, though it would be, but because it would be best for you. You would be safer, more prosperous, less fearful and have a more assured future if you lived up to the best of what it means to be America – to be American.
So, coming up on July 4th, on your birthday, this is my wish for America and for Americans – that you remember that the right thing to do morally is almost always the right thing to do pragmatically. There is no choice between “freedom and safety”; there is no choice between prosperity and massive inequality; there is no choice between generosity and fiscal prudence and there is no such thing as “managed free speech”.
Be the America the world loved. Be the America you can be proudest of – the one that does not torture, that treats all men as equal and with unalienable rights. Be the America that rebuilt Europe and that lends a helping hand to countries like Afghanistan. Be the America that would never invade a country that had not attacked you first. Be the America that is about lifting all boats and not just a few.
Be that America, and we will all be Americans.
(Ian writes more often at The Agonist)
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Bada bing
And so we have come to this: Putin and Bush.
Hanging pre-emptive warriors, inherited wealth, etc.? Sounds radical.
Ouch. Remember, 70% of us don’t want W’s America, and an awful lot of us fight day and night to expose the illness that has gripped our country. We may be ill, but we will survive. Good post though – good medicine.
And some of us do not want Democrats to act like Republicans. The public views Bush as low. Americans see Congress as lower.
What qualities would Canadians like to see in the next president of the U.S.?
I was talking to my brother back in England just last week and he was saying much the same thing, about the US squandering the good will of the rest of the world.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 5
Me, I’d be happy if Republicans actually acted like Republicans, and Democrats acted like Demograts.
When Republicans want to meddle in state’s rights on civil issues and run up the largest deficits in history following a Democratic administration which championed Free Trade agreements which offloaded tons of inductrial work to our immediate neighbors, well..
Both parties seem to be appropriating the others’ worst aspects.
BushCheneyCo is unAmerican.
Mack @ 8
Too bad our current administration, all the Republican presidential candidates, one or two of the Democratic candidates and all our mainstream media don’t believe this.
Their vision of America is one of Joe McCarthy UnAmerican Activities blacklists with a touch of Stalin’s gulags and press propaganda and 1984’s endless war with someone or other (check this week’s listings) thrown in for good measure.
It is true that the vast majority of Americans do not want that America. Voted against it in the last elections, in fact. But who’s listening?
Certainly not the Bush administration, with its out-of-control executive and non-functioning Justice Department, and only a part of the Congress.
America – it’s a wonderful idea, but at present that’s all it is.
My Grandmother was born and raised in Collingwood. My Mother was born and raised in Scotland, (she married a Cherokee in England on his way to Normandy as a soldier in WWII), all three would take issue with Canada being called “client state”.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 12
Nothing wrong with disagreeing. I think it’s accurate, however. And I’m very proud of being Canadian.
Bush’s laws can be felt especially in the northern partof Maine where Canadians and people from Maine share a border but so much more including a library if memory serves me. The new passport laws are costly for these friends and neighbors.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 6
Not being a bully, mostly, I think.
Thank you for your heartfelt and inspirational Independence Day birthday wishes, Ian. I’ll join you, by repeating my own wish for independent, principled leadership from our Congress on behalf of our Constitution, and by trying to explain why the Democrats holding office in our Legislative Branch of government have gone so far astray as to be willing to abandon our founding ideals to instead serve the ends of personal privilege and power (as posted in the last thread):
While I disagree with Digby that Congress has years to wait before delivering true accountability, she has absolutely put her finger on the underlying truism of our system, and thus the imperative logic behind asserting the vitally important inherent Legislative Branch powers – of impeachment and of deciding matters of war and peace – against the leadership of this Executive Branch (even if she herself still thinks Congressional committee oversight alone will somehow be sufficient).
I realized a few things, after reading Mike Stark’s partial transcript of the blogger conference call with Nancy Pelosi on Thursday (including Mike’s outstanding, spur of the moment comeback(s) to Pelosi’s frantic, scatter-shot attempts at preemptive misdirection; selise notes that the audio version is even more compelling). One is that our “representatives” in Congress need to be defined by how they are in fact behaving: not as “Members of Congress” but simply and ignobly as “Members of A Party.”
Nancy Pelosi is so steeped in PARTY politics, that she cannot see the forest of the NATION’S Constitution for the political party trees. And neither can most of her colleagues, apparently. It probably partly explains why and how her fellow federal Members of A Party can rationalize their ownership by organized, well-funded lobbies; the vital necessity for THE NATION’S PEOPLE to be in charge of her branch and thus of our federal government, as designed and intended by our Constitution, has simply sunk beneath the radar of these people, for one reason or another.
Thus, Pelosi’s whole (and admitted) agenda is to pass bills (regardless of whether they ever actually become law), in order to justify further donations from her PARTY’S owner/operators: the deep pockets of corporations and foreign lobbies that fund the PARTY’S campaign operations. That seems to be all they know how to do anymore, after decades of bad habit: use taxpayer debt to pay off campaign promises to those private groups who enabled their election to public office in the first place. Pandering, at its worst.
As Mike indicated in his DailyKos diary about the conference call, deep down somewhere Pelosi still seems to have a conscience, and thus an uncomfortable feeling about the obvious conflict and clash of agendas between the oath of office she took to uphold and defend our Constitution, and the private political PARTY agenda she is already blindly pursuing on behalf of “2008.” That now quite-drastic conflict has become increasingly obvious and egregious, and Pelosi knows it. It was actually obvious before last November’s election when the minority in the Senate was failing to obstruct as it could have, but the “most important election of our lifetimes” (Take Two) was allowed to push it aside by most informed observers. And now Pelosi and Reid want (and unbelievably think they can get) a Take Three on that inexcusable excuse to ignore their duties and responsibilities as Members of OUR CONGRESS due to “2008,” but they simply aren’t going to get one this time. Because if they are allowed a third pass, not only will the absolute, unConstitutional, de facto preeminence of the Executive Branch in our government be allowed to be solidified against the wishes of the people, but those holding public office in our federal legislature will have simply been allowed by us to run for office for the sole purpose of running for office again. I trust the American people to prevent that from happening, no matter how much Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid and their caucuses try to stand in our way.
What Pelosi is missing is how much she as Speaker and the Congress as a whole could and would in fact “matter” IF she were to assert the inherent powers of her branch of government. The problem seems to be that Pelosi, Reid, and most of the rest of them don’t want the responsibility that comes with that inherent power. Unlike Bush (with his inherent Commander in Chief over the Armed Forces powers) and Cheney and most Republicans, the Democrats at least seem to understand and accept that they can’t assume and assert power without the immense responsibility such power brings with it. But what most of the Democrats in Congress simply haven’t accepted or acknowledged is that solely by virtue of holding the public offices in our legislature that they do, on behalf of the governed, and by swearing their oaths, they already have assumed that responsibility despite their refusal so far to exercise their inherent powers; inherent Congressional powers that they absolutely must responsibly exercise, and soon, in order to honor their oaths of office, fulfill the duties of their offices as the majority in, and members of, Congress, and to keep faith with the intent of our Founders and with we, the people in whose name they serve.
Fine essay, Ian, wise and very sobering. Thanks for caring enough about us to write this.
Saw SICKO today. Fits right in with the theme. It is Moore’s best.
Ian Welsh @ 13
;0)
Ian Welsh @ 16
Which candidate(s) or non-candidate(s) fit the bill?
clio @ 11
KO gave his “worst” bronze medal yesterday to Amtrak security, for throwing an elderly diabetic (African-American, of course) man off a train in the middle of a forest in AZ, because they mistook his diabetic shock for drunkedness. The man then fled into the forest and wandered for four days in a daze…. a story with no heroes, which finally deconstructs into an absurb parable of thuggish, bigotted, indifferent and incompetent officialdom, whose lessons are recognizable to no one at all, and offering, therefore, what I believe to the perfect metaphor of America under the shrubbies….
Great post, Ian. Now I’m going to go back, and read it through a second time.
Thanks, Ian–nice post. I’m an American living in Canada, and this is pretty much how most of my friends here see things.
One quibble. I recall a “free speech zone” at the Democratic National Convention in Atlanta in 1988. What an Orwellian shock that was.
“What qualities would Canadians like to see in the next president of the U.S.?
Not being a bully, mostly, I think.”
And that leaves out all of the Repug field.
(and don’t tell me about Ron Paul = the guy is anti-choice.)
Accepting for the moment that Canadians (including French Canadians) view themselves as a client state, then who is at fault for that view?
Oklahoma kiddo @ 19
I haven’t seen any polls, and I hesitate to speak for all Americans, but here’s my answer:
Edwards, Richrdson, Dodd, Kucinik
(We don’t think the US needs more troops, so I think Obama would be out if most Canadians knew he believes in that.)
Ian, happy Canada day to you. What is the holiday?
This was a really thoughtful post and needs to be spotlighted.
Ian Welsh @ 25
;0) Any not yet declared candidates come to mind? I like you list. ;0)
Happy Dominion Day, Ian. I’d call it Canada Day, but I’m old-school.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 24
I have been told, by someone I trust who is in a position to probably know, that Canada is in Afghanistan because the US told us to go there or Iraq /or else/. (The implied or else being messing with border trade.)
After 9/11 we passed two rather nasty anti-terrorism bills because we were told if we didn’t the US would shut the border down.
In the 50’s, we destroyed our Aviation industry because the US threatened us (the carrot was the Auto Pact).
We are currently about to give US law enforcement officers the right to carry weapons in Canada.
The Lumber deal was pretty sickening too (google US Canada Lumber deal)
I could go on and on.
Fault? Fault isn’t the issue, in my opinion. As in all messed up relationships, there’s fault on both sides – the US pushes hard, Canada doesn’t stand up for itself properly because it thinks it’ll lose (we’re wrong and losing is beside the point anyway, but our politicians don’t believe that). When I write for Canadians (which I don’t do much right now, but I have in the past) I tell Canadians that Americans respect only fighters and that if we’re tired to being slapped around we have to stand up for ourselves in a big way.
Personally I thing adding export fees to goods going into the US would make the point. Americans think US lumber is too cheap? Excellent, we’ll add a 25% export tariff to it (would have worked better a year ago, but would still hurt like hell.) Want to take it to a trade war? Let’s go – half the Midwest and New York state will pay anything we ask in order to keep the lights on and the cars running. Or even just do what Trudeau did and tell customs to work to rule. In a couple weeks the Northern senators will be screaming like we just gelded them.
Our military is also designed specifically to work with yours and the British. That’s usually a big sign of client state status. The military of a non-client state Canada would be designed for insurgency ops and maintaining control over territorial waters and the north.
Loo Hoo. @ 26
Thank you Loo Hoo. Canada day is tomorrow. :)
Ian, have you heard any talk about the North American Union in Canada? Do you think there is anything to it?
It is hard to take a journalist seriously who does not know that ‘IT’S’ with an apostrophe is ‘IT IS’, and that unless quoting, abbreviations such as ‘I’M’ are bad English. One would have thought a Canadian to have higher standards.
The Canada Fund in my Fidelity select account is outperforming everything else.
Ian Welsh @ 29
This is what I was getting at. ;0)
Touching and heartfelt response to what is becoming a failed nation state. Thank you Ian.The great experiment indeed. I’m first generation American with no direct knowledge of what my father’s family went through to leave the Jewish ghettos of Eastern Europe in 1923 and cross the ocean, arrive in Cuba, spend 4 years there and then arrive in NY. They did manage to scrape enough money together to go second class and avoid the Ellis Island ordeal. Still, they came here for reasons, I assume, of freedom—freedom from fear and persecution.
It’s hard to look at what has transpired over the last 6 years without fear and trepidation of what is to come. There is a reason that so many people are reading Sinclair Lewis’ book, It Can’t Happen Here and then writing about it. The fascist scenario that is so frightening laid out in that book is happening now, not in exactly the same ways. It is far more subtle. But then as Milton Mayer pointed out in the 1955 book They Thought They Were Free:
We live in a system that rules without responsibility. And they use God as a weapon for manipulation. Do the Democrats and what’s left of the real main stream Republicans have the moral fortitude to do anything to stop it? I don’t know.
Last week I heard Daniel Ellsberg talk about his literally stealing of the Pentagon Papers putting himself and his family at great risk to do what he felt he needed to do to end a war. Where are the people of conscience like him now? I wish I knew.
JPL @ 14
Northern Maine and Vermont are both tied tightly to Canada. Probably New Hampshire & very northern NY, but it’s more obvious in ME and VT. (And as a Mainer, I can tell you that when I go into Canada, they recognize the difference.)
LS @ 31
I think there are powerful people who would love such a thing. For them the border and having multiple passports/currencies/laws etc.. just costs them money when they’re doing business in the entire continent. They want rationalization of all that so life is cheaper and more convenient for this.
We hear about this stuff more often in Canada, and it gets pushed heavily. Before Bush there was significant talk, by extremely important people, of adopting the US dollar, for example.
(I used to say, and still say, that if we adopted the US dollar I would go from being a Canadian nationalist to pushing to join the US. That would be an intolerable loss of sovereignty, to my mind. As you might guess, I would have been anti Euro if I were in Europe, and indeed, as the European Supreme Court and Brussels in general extend their writ, as they already are, the “nations” in Europe will become more and more like provinces or US states. There will come a time when Europeans will have to decide if they are French or German first, or Europeans first. I don’t know what they’ll choose.)
Canada for Canadians!
Do not accept the U.S. dollar thing! Never!
“O Canada”!
Ian Welsh @ 36
Hmmm…worrisome, indeed. My family is European (Norwegian). Norway refused to join the EU – now they are being “punished” by the US and are on the “terror list”…What a mess.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 38
I first went into Canada (on my own) in 1973. The CD was US $1.10 or so. Canadians accepted my US money face value (I got a discount). I brought my Canadian change back into the US. “We don’t take that shit here”. I almsot turned around. Many times sorry I didn’t.
Oh. My. God., What a beautiful post….
Norway!
There’s something about Canadians, English and the Swiss that likens their oversimplified American obsession, however well worded, truth or abstraction to entitled Paris Hilton whining.
GordonM @ 42
;0)
GordonM @ 41
I left New England in the 70’s but I still remember Canadian currency being accepted in parts of Mass.
ian welsh may be canandian but he’s more american than most americans.
Skippy, only in the USA do we forget that Canada is part of North america.
skippy @ 48
;0)
Digby has a petition up to ask Reid to out the obstructionist republicans:
http://digbysblog.blogspot.com…..gby-i.html
Oklahoma kiddo @ 24
Themselves! I was born in Canada and raised until I was transplanted to Hawaii at age nine! If one looks at the front range of the Rockies, both North and South, it is immediately obvious that the Southern Rockies(American) are more heavily regulated than the Canadian Rockies! The Canadian side has been massively exploited and tapped, there’s oil derricks in virtually every glen and dale running the length of the BC/Alta border! Granted, Shrub has empowered the DoI to start harvesting, it pales in comparison to Canada’s exploitation of it’s natural resources!!!
JPL @ 46
Well, part of my mistake may have been coming back through Michigan.
UPDATE: Here in ME, canadian coins are accepted at face value.
CTuttle @ 52
This too is what I was getting at. ;0)
Very good post for the most part, except for the ‘client state’ thing which I object to. I for the most part am not nearly as forgiving of the yanks as you seem to be.
ttul
If as some people say members of our congress possess dual citizenship with US and Israel… I say Ian should have dual citizenship..
Marvelous post, sir!
and as always thank you pow wow!
JPL @ 48
And on that visit in 1973 is when I learned not to call myself “American”, but a “citizen of the US”. Now Ian goes and wimps out /wink.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 53
Let’s not “blame the victim” too much. America is 10X larger than Canada in terms of population, more than that economically and has a massive military. States next to countries that much more powerful than them have good reason to believe that if they get too uppity they will pay a frightful price for it.
Gawd. There is an awful lot of sharp folks posting and commenting on this blog.
LooHoo, I just signed it..
GordonM @ 53
O’ Happy Canada Day!!! Because as the current trend continues, shortly, the Loonie will exceed the Buck!!! Yee-Haw!!! Does that mean Windsor GM products will cost more??? *g*
Oklahoma kiddo @ 58
It’s Jane’s fault.
So it boils down to money and not getting nuked?
IMHO Bush and Cheney have to be impeached for crimes against humanity. And somebody has to have the gravity to make it stick. And anybody who says we’re too busy (including Al Gore) has to be dope-slapped. Bringing these fools to justice cannot be left to international tribunals — http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U…..inal_Court
Ian Welsh @ 58
Granted, but, Canada has always toed the American line, except maybe during the Reagan-Trudeau days, or Shrub’s snubs!!! *g*
Tuttle, I think that the exchange rate has been shifting…
I am a President Gore fan.
JPL @ 60
Good! It’s time the obstructionists get theirs.
Sacrifice and sovereignty seem to go hand in hand.
JPL @ 66
That’s what I was saying, it has typically been pegged at $1.00US=$0.76Cd, recently it’s been $0.94!!! ;-)
CTuttle @ 69
sorry
JPL @ 71
No worry, however, the Loonie is projected to overtake the almighty buck!!! Should be interesting…!!! 8-)
Tuttle, Actually for someone like (part wimp although not under the mattress type) I find it scary.
Loo Hoo. @ 68
Is this the petition calling for Reid to call their bluff and force a traditional filibuster and force them to keep voting on the same item over and over again? If so, I signed it the other day…
There’s more on exposing the obstructionists in the Senate at http://commonsense.ourfuture.o…..uctionists
Yes, dakine, it must be the same one. I just caught it at C&L a little earlier.
The way the country is being run, maybe just maybe, Ian should be concerned about the next Vice-President.
JPL @ 73
Being a Retired US Army Vet, I’m seriously considering re-patriating, depends on ‘08, and, do I really want to move from balmy climes to the frigid North??? ;-)
CTuttle @ 78
Eh, become a snow bird – half a year in Florida/California, half a year up north. Best of both worlds.
Though I still think we should have seriously considered letting Turks and Caicos in, just so we could have a Carribean vactation destination under Canadian sovereignty. ;)
I’m another transplanted Canadian who wants the best for America.
I want America to admit, once and for all that all of its prosperity, all of the rewards of the grand experiment are built on stolen land, on a people at once the original owners, and at the same time they who were warred against for having the temerity to resist the illegal European occupation of their home. Since the resistance was officially quelled with brutality in the 19th century, the people whose land we stole (and I include Canadians in that) have existed, merely, officially forbidden to practice their traditional ways, barred from speaking their mother tongues, babies and small children stripped from their parents and forced to be warehoused in the educational equivalent of penitentiaries. Driven to despair.
I want America to admit, once, and for the good of all, that 200 years of slavery, and 150 years or so of freedom from the whip do not free people make. Americans of African descent do not enjoy the same prosperity as do most others precisely because they have never been given the same leg up as the rest. Even now, as the US Supreme Court sees fit to dismantle legislation cobbled together in hope of redressing the wrongs visited on our brothers and sisters, those same Americans of African descent are confined to poverty and destined to repeat the pattern of a deracinated people in the belly of a colonial beast–disdained, feared, marginalized, degraded.
My hope for this 4th of July in America is that a majority in this country will awaken with a resolution to confront Bush’s lies with the truth.
Canadians have largely enjoyed a world position of being mostly harmless, of not mattering for the most part, with neither the numbers, nor the need, to be strongest. I think it’s a sad commentary that, given the history of which I’ve spoken, and even given the true and unalterable similarity in our two cultures, the best description of what it means to be a Canadian that this 55-year-old Canuck has ever heard can be summed up with the words: “I’m not American, eh.”
So, come on America. Make us proud. We’ll all be behind you if you make the choice to fight the good fight, to use your might FOR making things right, not for dictating what you think is right.
Happy 211th.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 67
I think I love you!
Stuck in Muck @ 80
We are not “they.” And as you can see, we’re twisting our wee brains into pretzeline shapes, trying to figure out how to reclaim our country from “them.”
Tuttle, I love Ann Of Green Gables..
Ian Welsh @ 79
True, however, the reality of a fixed income prohibits such notions of grandeur!!! 8-)
Be that America, and we will all be Americans.
I can agree with most of what you wrote, but you shouldn’t try to sell such wishful thinking to the Americans like you did with this last line, Ian. Even after Bush is replaced by a Democratic president the animosity from the left toward America won’t subside very quickly and the drooling conservatives in the rest of the world will demonstrate to everyone the true meaning of anti-Americanism. This is going to result in America being more hated than it is now regardless of whether or not America works to regain its moral footing.
pow wow @ 15
hear! hear!
CTuttle @ 78
Panama is lovely.
Robert McClelland @ 85
It won’t happen overnight, of course, but it can happen. I think a lot of people around the world are willing to forgive, if the effort seems sincere.
Prodigal son, and all.
New thread FYI
New thread FYI
JPL @ 83
I actually visited the house on PEI! Even had the pleasure of seeing Charles and Di walking together in Charlottetown!!! It was Kewl!!!
CTuttle @ 78
BushCo has already taken care of that, with their continuous advance of the cause of global warming. Beach front properties on Hudson Bay, anyone?
maunga @ 32
I am a writer of some grammatical skills, and yet, in haste I sometimes employ “the butcher’s apostrophe” when writing emails or posts in the haste they seem to demand. Thus, I consider this comment, to be charitable, gratuitous.
JPL @ 60
me too!
I just wrote to Pelosi-as-speaker, telling her that we want our elected representatives to represent us, not their big contributors (meaning, and I said this, business). I pointed out that we don’t have the time to wait for the next election to (maybe) give the Democrats a safe majority. The problems are here and now, and have to be dealt with here and now.
I signed that petition, but I don’t thiink it will do any more good than any of the other petitions of the last six years.
It’s always kind of sad when a non-American swallows America’s myths about itself.
The ideals of the American Revolution had been well and truly consigned to the dustbin of history by the early 1800’s.
Ian:
As much as I appreciate your sentiments, you really need to fully redirect your energies towards saving your own country. Having visited the Great White North each of the last five summers everywhere from Victoria/Vancouver to Halifax/Cape Breton I humbly assert that what you have is very much worth saving and far superior.
America is very close to becoming a lost cause, no matter who wins in ‘08. As many of us are beginning to realize, we’re heading towards some combination of Chisto/Corporate/Military fascism down here. All it’ll take is the inevitable economic meltdown from our vastly irresponsible behavior as a nation. When that happens, I dearly hope Canada can hold out, much as Switzerland did during the Nazi era.
Oh, and PLEASE save my wife and I a spot before you close your borders. Heck, we might even learn to appreciate hockey and curling.
Signed,
A Resigned American
Robert McClelland @ 85
“animosity from the left toward America”? What animosity?
Ian, great post. I’m terribly sorry things have gotten screwed up. Hang with us and we’ll try to set things aright.
Ian–
The short form of what you said so well amounts to this for me:
I want the America I grew up believing in back again.
It may never have existed in quite the gauzy or romantic way you describe, or the way I remember it. Maybe what I think America was is only what my Mama told me. But that’s not the point. The one I remember is very much like the one you described. And I do want it back.
@ 23
Golly gosh, just imagine a pregnant woman eager to have the baby hearing, “I delivered 4,000 babies but I shoulda been an abortonist.”
Do tell us IF you ever find a candidate that you would agree with on every issue.
Wait a second, hold the phone…if I’m redundant, I apologize; but last I looked, America is a continent that includes Canada, therefor Canadians are Americans.
Very romantic.
Except the world does not really ‘hate’ Americans, it simply gets very frustrated with its adolescent bully boy antics, its penchant to overreact, the arrogant hubris of American exceptionalism that can consider preemptive aggression as defence, Geneva Conventions as quaint, acts of torture as enhanced interrogation techniques, kidnappings of foreign nationals outside its borders for torture by proxies as extraordinary renditions and of course some remarkable Presidents, including Reagan and Bush II.
The world still associates the Statue of Liberty and Bill of Rights as being essentially American as much as it associates the principles of habeas corpus and right to trial by a jury of peers with Great Britain.
Happy Birthday America – the tide is turning and all the things that have gone so woefully wrong since the dawn of the 21st century are being exposed, debated, opposed and I have no doubt will be resolved to a degree.
Which candidates to date appeal to me as the next President? I like Kucinic though he has not a chance to win his party’s nomination to contest the Presidential elections. Edwards comes next. Gore is’nt running officially yet so I’ll ignore him. I know this much though – his commitment to ecological issues is genuine and have known that since 1996. Obama? Well, some of his policy proposals are too iffy, not just his plans to increase defence spending or his refusal to eschew nuclear attacks against non nuclear countries like Iran but also his half baked theories on health care reform, his defensive posture on where and why he got tested for aids and a certain unease when anybody uses religiosity in political posturings.
Then there is this from Ian:
“Truly, in the Cold War, America stood astride the word facing off against an evil empire. Reagan was right when he called the USSR evil – it was a totalitarian nightmare, and opposing it; keeping it in check, was the moral thing to do.”
I have a lot of problems with such dogmatic assertions. The Cold War was an imperial power struggle between two empires for global dominance, both equally evil. This is no defence of Stalin but Khrushchev had signalled the end of that period early in the post World War II era. Yes, the gulags persisted under hegemonistic stateism reinforced by not very transparent legal processes. Is that the definition of evil? Was that any worse than the allied bombings of civilians in Europe or the nuclear devastation unleashed on Japan when they were ready to surrender or the covert operations of the CIA across central and south America that unseated many democratically elected governments or the segregation that persisted in the south? There was no ‘morality’ involved in the nuclear arms race that relied on mutual assured destruction. It was lust for power, pure and simple, when countries were not given any other option but to choose between one or the other. That Manichean streak continues to haunt American political rhetoric and policies to this day.
Lets stop talking about the Taliban in Afghanistan as if they are alien invaders from outer space. They happen to be a local product albeit with support from across the Pakistani border but nurtured with covert sustenance from Pakistan’s ISI and Saudi money for madrassas to fan the flames of Wahhabi Salafism.
Another thing, North Americans seem to worry more about national identities being threatened by the European Union than the EU countries themselves. I wonder why. The EU is not the only paradigm of a non-homogeneous subcontinental identity. The world’s most populous democracy, India, has 23 (recognised) languages out of approximately 35 in the world, boasts 1.1bn people who are truly multi-ethnic, multi-lingual and multi-religious. In terms of purchasing power parity the country has the fourth largest GDP while geographically it is the seventh largest. And no, its not all call centres – they actually account for less than 6% of its GDP. I know Ian has reservations re India because of its social inequalities and a small middle class. That small middle class today is approximately 27% of its population and thats a heckuva ‘small’ number out of 1.1bn. Besides, the growth of the middle class is a result of economic development and growth and not the other way round.
Gosh, I know it’s the 4th of July and all, and I spose I should be getting a lump in my throat from stirring tributes to our “shining city on the hill”, but…
There’s a troubling current among progressives, ehoed in your essay, to view the past 7 years as an aberration, a time when America lost its way and turned its back on its values. I think it’s vital for true progressives to be unflinchingly honest about our past, and the truth is, there is nothing out of the ordinary about our recent behavior. The first sentence of the Declaration, taken literally, is a revolutionary idea, but at the time it was written it was well understood what it meant as opposed to what it said. “We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all white male property holders are created equal, and are entitled to treat their human property and native neighbors however they damn well please, Mr. pansy-ass King.” That sentiment was every bit as central to the Revolution as the concept of liberty, and the clever way it was expressed is one history’s great feats of spin. It is truly wonderful that the first line of the Declaration is now taken literally, but our latest adventure against our latest non-white enemies is just a continuation of the line of the Mexican War, 2 centuries of ethnic cleansing of the American Frontier, Spanish-American war to Christianize or kill (one million killed) the Catholic Filipinos, war to kill or provide capitalism to Korea, war to bomb Vietnam into the stone age to save it, war to do something in Central America (oh yeah, it was stop Communism). Our continuous trail of dead brown people has only been interrupted by occasional, full-scale industrial wars like the Civil War and the Wars of the Roman Numerals. It’s good to be proud, it’s good to be patriotic, but it’s vital to face your faults if there’s any hope of correcting them.
mudkitty @ 101
And Americans wonder why they can drive people in the rest of the world crazy.
Amusing Sona.
1) I just lived with a French roomie. Voted Sarkozy, as it happens, but I know her general political views and by US terms she’s a flaming liberal. She told me that if it was a choice between France and the EU, she’d vote France and that she’s disturbed by the EU pushing in on French sovereignty. France agrees, since it voted down the constitution. Actually there does seem to be solid evidence that they care about nations.
2) There was a huge difference between the USSR and US during the cold war. Not even going there, but if you’re reduced to arguing they were both equally evil….
3) What you say about Afghanistan/Pakistan is half true (the core of the Taliban were seminary students from Pakistan, for example) but irrelevant to my argument. The Taliban wasn’t inevitable, by any means and the US abandoning Afghanistan did make a difference.
4) India: Most of the population lives in poverty, there are entire provinces that are effectively in revolt. India is a democracy, sure, but I wouldn’t get all misty eyed about it – there’s a ton of repression and fear involved in keeping India together. As for their economic miracle, as with China, the activity on the trade/outsourcing margins matters a hell of a lot. Take away even just the 6% you mentioned (which isn’t all of it) and you get a cascade through the economy that would be horrific. Some parts of the economy matter much more than other ones, and the parts that are involved in I/O functions with other countries are included. A lot of people don’t seem to get that.
And yeah, a lot of the world does hate America.
Aside: I used to have a friend, we worked at the same company. One day she bitched at me about our coworkers – this one was lazy, that was a snob, the other one was rude, etc… and they were all of them not very helpful to her.
My response was that I liked all of the people she dislike, and that when I asked them to help me I almost always got the help.
Wonder why?
And when I deal with people who need to change, I spend much more time on what’s best about them than what’s worth – on their ideals and aspirations and the good part of their self image. I don’t ignore the bad stuff (what the hell do you think I write about 364 days a year), but when you want change you need a model for positive change.
That model is there in America’s past, in its founding documents and in its ideals. Sure, there’s bad stuff too, no question. And one does need to recognize that. But the concentration needs to be not on the inevitability of sin, but on the possibility of taking the very best of America. And when holding out an image of what America can be, that’s what I do.
America’s come a long way – universal franchise, freeing the slaves, the Marshall plan, and so on. Those who seem only able to focus on the sins of America are as tiresome and incorrect as those who can see America as nothing but good.
And, more importantly, they undermine their own cause by incessantly focussing on the negative and not recognizing also the good.
Pow-wow,
Great post. Very articulate and I love seeing people put their thoughts together like that, stay on issue and really deliver the goods. That being said, I read your post without highlighters and the like so I may have missed this point, but your points about Pelosi’s lack of interest in impeaching Bush notwithstanding, I think she is not advocating it HERSELF because of the inhernet conflict of interest it represents on her behalf.
If Bush, and hopefully Cheney, too, but you don’t know if he would leave at this point….were to be impeached, then Pelosi would be the President. As such, although your analysis and reasons for it are truly impressive, I think that is the real issue why SHE PERSONALLY is not looking for impeachment.
As for the original poster, the leaders of the founding fathers, Franklin, Hamilton, Jefferson, Washington, I think Adams, and I think Madison, were very spiritual but considered themselves to be deists, i.e. belief in an omniprecent God without the hoopla about the father, son and the holy Trinity of Christainity. The Jefferson Bible is a good example. That’s why God is not mentioned in the Constitution, but IS mentioned in the Declaration of Independance, if only as a reference to a univeral law.
It is sad to see these last few years the abrupt shift of politics so far to the “right” that moderate voices, and those on the left, are considered anathema to democracy and the Amercian Ideal. It takes Candadians and Europeans to right the course for us, I think. And it is nice to read that the legacy in which this country is based is appreciated and supported by non-US citizens.
I came to this late, as I had been offline for the last couple of days, but this post if no other confirms the wisdom in reading back here at FDL from the last post I had read from my last visit. You sir have written something I completely share your feelings in for the same reasons as a born and bred Bluenoser. I *WILL* be linking to it in a post in the next day or two at my blog (which I have been quiet at the past couple of months, the Afghan detainee issue set my blood boiling so much I simply couldn’t, and then the handbook on how to destroy Parliamentary committees etc, and since I tend to concentrate on Canadian politics at Saundrie I shut down) because of how well it addresses why I pay such close attention to domestic American politics and have for over 30 years, and because of how keenly I feel the pain of loss of my ability to believe in the America I like you grew up with as compared to the reality that exists now.
Again, simply excellent writing sir, and thank you from the bottom of my heart for writing something that speaks so powerfully to this issue from a Canadian perspective. I hope and pray it is as effective with other Canucks as it is with Americans reading this.
Ian – I see I’ve rubbed you up the wrong way. I would persist regardless:
Re (1): A subcontinental identity does not sacrifice narrower national, or rather ethnocentric identities. There are no ambiguities in EU countries rejecting the proposed EU constitution and yet retain the EU. France, in particular, cannot afford the CAP outside the EU nor can it ditch the CAP for political reasons. Most EU countries know that without the EU each and every one of them will face obstacles to economic progress. No its not the Euro but harmonisation of policies that encourage trade and economic co-operation. The proposed EU constitution couldn’t win because the average voter saw that as a diminution of their sway on more accessible politicians. Indeed, Merkel and Blair have been freaking everybody out with their plans to exhume the constitution and pass it off as a government level agreement that bypasses the referendum process.
Re (2): I have always objected to Reagan’s simplistic classification of the USSR as THE ‘evil’ empire, implying opponents must be the forces for ‘good’ regardless of the latter’s modus operandi. All countries have histories that are mixes of ‘good’ and ‘evil’ because that is the essence of humanity – we choose. All countries also gloss over the bad bits of history and eulogise the parts that cast them in a good light. Nothing peculiarly American about that.
Re (3): The Taliban are recruited from the Pashtun people who straddle the Afghanistan-Pakistan border areas. Their ideology often reflects Pashtun tribal customs going back generations. In that context, the Taliban are part and parcel of the local landscape. It is interesting that the genesis of the Taliban was Pakistan’s ISI which is a misbegotten child of CIA black ops when the Soviets first walked into Afghanistan. They are sustained today by ISI political cover and Saudi money for the madrassas. ISI is often referred to as a state within a state and it regards the Taliban as their insurance to stave off return of civilian control of government in Pakistan and attempts by the country’s regular military to defang it.
Re (4): I am currently doing a research consultancy re public policy development in India, so have been doing quite a few trips and getting to know both its peoples, history and characteristics. I don’t really understand your animosity towards that country. Sure it is poor – a direct consequence of 200 years of colonialism. The country would never have been coveted as the jewel in the crown of the Empire if it wasn’t the fourth most prosperous country in the 16th and the 17th centuries. Socioeconomic and consequent political inequalities and inequities exist in many other countries which have far more developed systemic infrastructure to address such issues. Sixty years ago the Indian middle class was estimated to be 12% of a much smaller population. Today it is 27% of 1.1bn people and rising. The point I was trying to make is that such inequalities would not stand in the way of continuing economic growth given the size of it. From the Australian perspective we tend to see India as an important geopolitical player not simply in the region but the world. In my frequent trips there, I haven’t felt it to be repressive at all. It has a very lively news media, both print and internet, and a thriving blogosphere. There is indeed unrest in many provinces but a lot of the unrest is really the have nots storming the Bastille. Politicians are starting to realise that addressing inequalities is a political imperative. They are not doing that very well yet but the realisation is there. Recent federal and state elections have unseated many of them. Australia also sees the country as a stable political democracy which will, nevertheless, follow a path that serves its own strategic national interests. In fact you would be amazed how many Australians are choosing to take up employment in that country particularly in the gap year many take between secondary and tertiary studies.
I don’t hate Americans and I don’t think most people do. I have worked there before as an Australian Federal Public Servant with the OECD and the UN. I am not the only non American who realises that the 2004 election results were very close despite the fear mongering and mud slinging politics that dominated it. Nor am I very lonely among the global crowd that thinks the American dream can reassert itself. The world is crying out for leadership on a number of urgent issues from the USA and it wouldn’t be doing that if it was consumed by hatred for the country.