The logic of fighting them over there instead of here is flawed. …

I tend to disagree, at least in part.

I study strategy all the time and unless you see your home base as impermeable and completely safe, then it DOES make sense to ‘fight them over there so you don’t have to fight them at home’.

Of course, that doesn’t mean they’ll cooperate and fight you where YOU want. So, you have to be ready to defend your home base as well as try to keep them away from it and to occupy them with fighting far from your home base. One would prefer to fight them on THEIR home territory to make them pay the highest price possible and to destroy their support base.

Note one of the flaws of the Iraqi strategy during the first Gulf war was to place a substantial part of their military on the border with Kuwait and Saudi Arabia, thinking we had to face them in a line like Revolutionary War style dueling lines of soldiers. Instead we let them think we were going to fight there, but then, using our global sense of the situation, we went around them and hit them from the side and from behind and had access to Baghdad if we’d chosen to fight there.

Never think so narrowly — think outside of the balloon.

Fighting Bush doesn’t have to start with ‘low-hanging fruit’, though that has been successful at revealing the extent of the corruption of this regime. But, you could easily connect the dots and realize the immediate attack may be on individuals (or policies) of the administration, but that the effort is to change the minds of the public (the home base). Can Republicans ‘defend’ their home base directly? They use their control of the media to try and prevent information flow. That’s one way they do it. But, in an open society such as ours that’s doomed to failure and the Internet is a big part of that.

Unless some minority group, such as police, such as the Rich, such as one political party, wish to use force to restrain democracy in America the process of convincing the electorate will win out. And, we are on the front lines of that battle to find the Truth and convince the public the Dems are better suited (at least for now) to lead.

Another aspect of our current foreign policy is that we’ve lost a lot of support from other peoples around the globe. If we had more friends to join with us in our big battles, then it would be easier to win and easier to convince any enemies to avoid fighting us in the first place. That’s one reason the 9/11 attacks were so surprising and strange. Who would take on (essentially) the whole Western world that way? But, today it’s far too easy to imagine many enemies considering small attacks on American interests.

lhp—How was your trial.

Were you found wanting or
were you found up to the task?

Enquiring minds want to know!

I then read an article in The Nation called The Torture Adminstration written by Anthony Lewis back in December of 2005. Oh how I miss Anthony Lewis writing for the NYT! If you haven’t read it I would encourage you to do so.

Boycott the sham “elections” which only replace one wing of the WarParty with another wing of the WarPart!!!!

Strike/Boycott 08

This country needs to put a fresh face forward…not the politicians of the last few decades trying to reinvent themselves.

wtf @ 133

question: a dear but apolitical friend said this:

“all congresses of 1 party go after the pres of the other party esp when he’s a lame duck”

… no no no no no no no no no … i said

I don’t think that’s true. It generally is, but we rarely have a President & party this unpopular, (yeah, Congress’s ratings are down, but that’s the leaders, not the party as a recent poll showed).

what is the best most concise argument for summarizi how qualitatively and quantitatively more bad evil crooked corrupt incompetent and ugly this admin is than any other in history, and debunking the “they all do it” meme of the uninformed

That’s tougher, ’cause you have to know your history to counter their arguments. Try pointing out that the Republicans got more corrupt in 10 years than the Dems did in 50.

There are also a lot of lies. It is not true that Nixon lost to JFK because of dead people voting in Chicago, but almost all Republicans “know” that fact. (It was investigated at the time by Republican prosecutors who found no evidence.) It’s not true that Reagan lowered taxes – he raised them (by raising Medicare and FICA more than he lowered income taxes). And the only administration to shrink the size of gov’t was Clinton/Gore.

It’s hard work, and the principle fault of the Left is (like anybody who’s sane) we don’t like hard work!

GordonM,
Thanks for all these pointers.
I’ve been trying to get cranky Ohioans to register to vote and man, are they giving me a hard time.
These facts will help, I hope!

As I read it, I immediately thought, no we must pursue them with vigor, if they have broken the law. We must fix our system of right and wrong, we must punish those who believe might makes right, and that power gives them the right to trample the rights of citizens without consequence.
I agree with others who say we must banish anyone who aided and abetted this administration’s illegal actions. We must bar all of these criminals from any future role in government. It is the only way we can keep the fascist agenda from sneaking back into power and corrupting our nation’s highest offices ever again.

I read the speech yesterday and thought it was wonderful. I must admit, the only one I can literally picture giving it justice is Al Gore. To me, he’s the only one with the moral authority, the international stature, and the viceral authenticity to actually say what he means and mean what he says.

Exactly what I was thinking.

yellowsnapdragon @ 53

I would really like to see LHP and masaccio (and other FDL legal types) get together on a project like that! Good luck and keep us informed.

The WONDERFUL Bob in Hawaii set up a working page in response to my “Priming the Pump” post where we can collect evidence and deposit legal research and develope prosecutable articles of impeachment.

Now that I am back from the trial, I hope to give it some serious attention. It can be a great place to collaberate. Not just lawyers, but all the docu dumpster divers who know Soooo much more baout the available evidence than anybody on Capital Hill

Thank you, LHP! Once again, here’s the Priming the Pump workspace! Will that do for what you have in mind?

Bob in HI

RevDeb @ 39

John Dean said a long time ago—start with the low hanging fruit and work your way up. It would seem that at this point in time, Abu very closely resembles low hanging fruit.

Lo whanging fruit that is well past it’s “sell by” date. *g*

O-o-o-o! what a great idea! Let’s whang some of that lo fruit!

Well, seriously, just about all the low hanging fruit has already been picked: Everyone involved in the firing of the USA’s below the administrative level of Gonzales has already left, haven’t they? A few low hanging fruit in the White House who were involved have also left, IIRC. Gonzo is not exactly low hanging fruit: He’s part of the Gang of Four, with Bush, Cheney, and Rove– and in fact, he’s the Firewall for the Terrible Trio. Impeaching Gonzo would rip the protective cover off this criminal conspiracy.

Bob in HI