Video of Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.’s eloquent “I Have A Dream” speech in Washington, D.C., on August 28, 1963, almost ten years after Brown v. Board of Education was decided, given at a time when segregation still took place all across the South, and folks were still fighting for equality and decency all over America — as we still ought to be today.
I took my daughter to preschool this morning, and discovered that a new little boy has started at her school. He marched up and introduced himself to me and The Peanut, and she grabbed his hand and introduced herself, they hugged and then ran off to play. Nothing unusual, he’s black, she’s white, and I’m just glad she’s found a new friend who seems like a charming little man. But in light of yesterday’s Supreme Court decisions…
Scarecrow and I were chatting last night about what recent Supreme Court rulings have meant in terms of what is to come as the Roberts Court cuts its swath through the precedents that it clearly disrespects. I had been reading the ACS review of the term, and we were discussing the fact that so many legal scholars — not just progressive ones, but conservatives as well — are clearly disgusted with the inconsistencies in reasoning that are littered across these decisions, and how stunning it was to see this level of disgust from so many disparate sources.
I keep thinking about the Warren Court and the development over so many years of the thought process that protected the weak or the downtrodden or the powerless. The notion that the law could be used to lift people up who had previously been under someone else’s heel — because that was the just thing to do. And how that has gotten shot to hell this term. And I’m just so damned angry. I’ve wanted to curse out loud all week — but I have in-laws visiting.
This notion of the law being used for the good of the whole nation, not just for the powerful or the connected, is one of the reasons that I became a lawyer. To help lift people up, to see that they have potential and ensure the right to it if they are willing to do the work to make it happen. To open a window for hope. And how the Roberts Court seems to delight in slamming that window shut.
They lied. There is no other way to look at their testimony. Roberts and Alito are sitting on the Supreme Court, one of them as the Chief Justice — and they sat there during their confirmation testimony and lied about a commitment to stare decisis. They fucking lied. And we knew they were lying at the time, threading the Roe needle.
And the Democrats in the Senate could not muster the nerve to do what needed to be done to block their acsension to the Bench. And so here we are. I am just so angry at so many elected officials who could not be bothered to do their jobs – because they were simply too worried about keeping their jobs. For shame.
Last night, PBS hosted a forum for Democratic candidates at Howard University. Pam Spaulding has fantastic coverage of the event (with pictures — thanks, Pam!). I watched what I could of the debate online last night — with relatives visiting, it’s tough to stay as in the loop as I’d like. It was so striking, the difference between the Roberts Court and how the Democratic candidates were talking about pro-active ways to lift up America’s poor and marginalized and to breach that ever-increasing divide between the have-a-lots and the have-not-muchs. We have to do better.
And then to go back to reading the opinions from the Supreme Court from yesterday and to think of what American conservatives have been doing with issues of immigration and race, and how right Mark Graber is here (H/T to Scott at LGM for this quote):
“Today’s opinions in the Seattle school case feature the too usual lectures from conservative justices on the meaning of the “good” civil rights movement, the one which asserted that “the constitution is color-blind.” Of course, neither Chief Justice Roberts nor any other member of the majority were actually members of that “good” civil rights movement. To paraphrase Dick Cheney, they had other priorities at a time when police dogs were being set upon African-American children who dared insist on the right to drink at the same water-fountains as white children. Indeed, Roberts, Alito, and Scalia were proud to be in the vanguard of the movement that pried from the Democratic Party those who set the dogs upon the children (and those who applauded that behavior). They could do so in good conscience because somewhere in the late 1960s, the “good” civil rights movement was replaced by the “bad” civil rights movement, a movement which insists that persons of color be actual as well as pro forma, legal equals. Curiously, this transition took place even though the vast majority of participants in the “good” civil rights movement remained in the “bad” civil rights movement, included almost the entire leadership. By comparison, on this history, George Wallace became the person who best understood that the central principle of BROWN v. BOARD OF EDUCATION was that no “innocent” white person could ever be harmed in the effort to secure racial equality and any person of color who claimed covert race discrimination would have to produce a smoking gun the equivalent of the smoking guns which convinced the Burger Court that the Alabama Constitutional Convention of 1900ish was committed to race supremacy. Recognizing that George Wallace and Strom Thurmond are the true heirs to Martin Luther King, Justice Roberts and his allies feel the need to direct lectures on BROWN to the “bad” civil rights movement in the hope that we may be converted.”
We are better than this. And we should all be willing to stand up and say so — including the officials we elect to protect this nation’s Constitution and the rule of law. Be not afraid — instead, stand up and fight. For your nation, your Constitution, and all of the generations to come. Let’s start with habeas restoration, and move forward every step of the way together from there. They do not win unless we stop fighting…and I’ll be damned if I will stop fighting.
More from E. J. Dionne at the WaPo and from the LATimes. And a fantastic piece from Charles Ogletree in the Boston Globe. (H/T to reader WB for the links.)
(H/T to Aaron Sorkin’s great line from The American President.)
UPDATE: SCOTUS has just announced that it has granted certiorari to hear cases from Guantanimo inmates. SCOTUSblog has the little bit of information publicly available at this point.
Related posts:
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- FDL Book Salon Welcomes Christopher Eisgruber, The Next Justice: Repairing the Supreme Court Appointments Process
- Conservative Justices Roberts, Scalia, Alito, Thomas Say Virtually Bribing Judges is Okay
- BREAKING: California Court Upholds Prop 8, Allows Existing Marriages to Stand





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First!
no zed…
O.K. I’ll stop there this time.
I used to collect zeds. Now I’m collecting dos…
Chief Justice Earl Warren is a giant.
anything in the top 20 is a victory by me.
Got the Supreme Court?
As I said on a thread yesterday, it’s back to the future for school segregation: SCOTUS 1954 erased SCOTUS 1889; now SCOTUS 2007 has revived it. As the French say, plus ca change…
EPU’d from previous thread:
The Supreme Court opinions were, in most cases, deeply divided decisions. As even John Stewart on The Daily Show noted they were largely 4-1-4 decisions, with Anthony Kennedy swinging the balance narrowly (in a couple of cases with just a plurality (not majority) opinion. I don’t think Republican Conservatives are cheering loudly yet pending the ‘08 elections and while I would never presume to give advice to the FDL, I doubt you’ve lost as much as the posters here today seem to think you have. The GOP is certainly concerned about next year’s election that could flip it all back.
Re: me @ 8:
I meant SCOTUS 1899…
Hot off the wire
In a surprise move, the U.S. Supreme Court has agreed to hear an appeal by Guantanamo detainees of their terrorism-era confinement behind bars.
raven at 10 — Just updated the post above — SCOTUSblog has some information on it.
“Let’s start with habeas restoration, and move forward every step of the way together from there”.
or just rename it “habeas corpus delecti”
When the only authority that can police political corruption is an intensely corrupt political party, the result is not simply broken laws, it is virtual lawlessness, in its most essential definition.
I think the court rulings from this term illustrate clearly that we can no longer use the court as a means to guarantee rights that are not explicitly laid out in the Constitution (and maybe come that are). Consequently, the left will have to change its political strategy. In the past when congress was recalcitrant, we could turn to the courts, but now we are left with congress. We will need to begin a proactive effort to get as many rights that we think might be in jeopardy to be codified in law. While some of these laws may be struck down, it is probably our only hope.
plus ca change…plus ca reste le meme…
I guess this is o/t, and I know the Supreme Court rulings are huge news, but I’m pissed that Bush’s refusal to answer subpoenas by Congress got bumped to the back pages. It’s huge news, too, and VERY related, as it could end up in front of the same Supreme Court soon.
Christy;
Your experience mirrors that of my father. Dad was an attorney for 35 years working mostly on labor law issues.
He found his desire to help the helpless in the Army when he was a company clerk, in Korea. As part of his job he would type up the disciplinary hearing decisions. The thing that spurred him on was that often he would be typing up the verdict before the hearing ever took place. While he could not do any thing about it there, he decided that as soon as he got out of the Army he would go to law school and do what he could to limit injustice in the world.
Dad died three years ago. I miss him terribly, but part of me is glad that he is not here to see the way that all he fought for is being dismantled.
On the other hand, he would be the first to say, “Hey, your unhappy about this? You had better roll up your damn sleeves and get to work on fixing it then!” So, that is what I intended to do. We must elect a Dem president as well as capture as many seats in the Senate as possible, that is the only path to offsetting this horrible court.
Fight the good fight, everyday.
Cheers
Wasn’t it Eisenhower who said that appointing Earl Warren to the Supreme Court was his biggest mistake? Bush cannot, and would not say the same about Roberts. For obvious reasons.
Christy Hardin Smith @ 11
Hmmm. What do you think? Are they taking it because it’s their job and they want to do the right thing? Or do they realize that Bush needs a PR victory, and they’re doing him a favor?
Christy Hardin Smith @ 11
Thanks, I didn’t know that blog existed!
Frank at 18 — I don’t know. They reversed an earlier decision NOT to hear the cases, so I’m wondering if there was a reapplication based on new information — or whether the public disgust over the various decisions the last couple of weeks made a particular justice reconsider cert. I just don’t know…
Lemme predict the Guantanimo detainee outcome.
5 to 4 against due process.
Call me psychic.
-GSD
Frank Probst @ 18
Bush has made us all cynics, and I hate him for it.
I like Thurgood Marshall very much too.
I am completely depressed and outraged by the recent SCOTUS decisions. I suspect that most Americans pay little attention to them and have no ideas about the potentialities of their impacts upon society.
I have this image of Clarence Thomas (porn lover) and the rest using copies of the constitution and other famous SCOTUS decision to roll fatties they can smoke while watching CT’s private video collection in some den attached to his office.
In other words, it is so frightening to me that it is SURREAL!
When I was young, I was taken to hear Martin Luther King by my father, a minister himself. We sat on blankets and listened to the introduction by Sidney Poitier. There was a strange energy, a tension in the air. I was a little frightened.
But the voices of Poitier and King were mesmerizing. What I remember most were the people who called out to Mr. King. Answered him, encouraged him. We actually sang “We Shall Overcome”; and I am crying.
Regarding the recent Supreme Court cases. Who says that conservatives don’t believe in Darwinian theories?
-GSD
By the way, I once got one of those rightwing spam mails that stated that George Herbert Walker Bush appointed the FIRST African-American to the Supreme Court, Clarence Thomas.
I almost puked.
The great children’s book illustrator Maurice Sendak who, being gay, has no children of his own was once asked why he liked children so much. His answer? “They’re not racist.”
Cue “You’ve Got to Be Carefully Taught” from South Pacific.
Lee at 9 — I think that is right — things weren’t entirely reversed, and, honestly, having read through the wishy-washy Kennedy concurrances, I’m not altogether certain where in the hell he stands on either of the desegregation cases. The split between where Roberts and Alito are and where Scalia and Thomas are — as Jack Balkin pointed out earlier in the week — is not inconsequential either. The dynamic is an interesting one.
But the willingness to shave off large chunks of long-time precedent on activist ideological grounds is telling. And that is what worries me — not for this term’s decisions, but for all the ones to come.
Bill E. @ 16
Nice story about your dad. My experiences in the Army in Korea and Vietnam led me to my work in adult literacy education. I knew so many people that got screwed because of their lack of education it has never left me. Many ended up getting drafted under Project 100,000 where they took that many each year that did not meet minimumn standards. Needless to say, once they got in the military they got shafted again.
Good morning from L.A. Excellent post, CHS, especially w/a houseful of folks :)
Digby has food for thought about how Roberts has scoped out Kennedy’s personal traits & is using them to push through these 5-4 decisions. Very interesting (can’t seem to link to this post directly- scroll down past “Debate Thoughts & “Luntz Bucket” to read it):
Ace Supreme
David at 28 — Yep. One of the things that I love most about having our daughter is getting to see the world through her fresh eyes. I love it. And I can see why Sendak feels the same way.
Although there is plenty of blame to go around for how we ended up with yesterday’s decision weakening, if not gutting of Brown, in my opinion Clarence Thomas is the number one culprit.
He replaced Thurgood Marshall, who prior to becoming a Justice actually argued Brown to the Supreme Court. Clarence Thomas providing the fifth vote for this tragic decision is a cruel irony and a mockery of history.
Some are even finding hope in Kennedy’s fudging. Shorter Kennedy: “I’m for diversity as long as race is not used as criterion.”
GSD @ 22
Post of the Day, GSD.
Have you been taking lessons from Sylvia Brown?
My teeneage kids are biracial. When they were very young, they called Caucasians “pink people” and African-Americans “brown people.”
Kids are empty vessels of ideology.
Frank Probst @ 18
I can see no reason to not be cynical. My first thought was that the granting of cert is just a “hey, there are some more assertion of rights out there which we need to strike down ASAP”.
This Court is absolutely hell-bent on eliminating all rights of the individual.
GeorgeSimian @ 16
I hold the press/MSM complicit in all of this. Recent example in MN: Star Tribune printed two articles from WaPo. They were truncated and deeply edited versions of the WaPo’s four-part series.
I did a line-by-line comparison, and discovered that the stories the Strib stuck deep in the news section represented less than half of the WaPo article and substantive changes made in the rest. I am being redundant. Sorry. That happens when I’m furious.
Wrote an LTE (they won’t print it) about this and also to the Readers’ Rep. She explained what I already suspected, i.e., that wire service stories can have the shit edited out of them (my words) as long as the integrity of the original piece is intact.
Well, now, who do you suppose will rule on the integrity piece? And readers were left believing they were reading the WaPo articles that everyone was talking about for, oh, 30 seconds or so beyond the blogosphere.
And guess what? There’s no way to alert readers to the fact that they’re being had. About the Cheney series. About Bush defiance. About SCOTUS overtaking the Constitution it is bound to defend.
Christy, I won’t stop fighting either, but some days, it’s harder than others.
GSD at 22 — Altogether likely on the outcome, but the fact that they are even going to hear the cases is surprising, I have to say. I’d like to know what the catalyst was for the change in cert…
Raven@30
It seems that a lot of people got that kind of exposure in the Army. In fact Dad was always in favor of the draft, for the reason that it through a grab bag of people together, in a dangerous situation. His thought was that you would have a much harder time holding on to prejudice after an experience like that.
I don’t know if he was right, but it does seem that quite few people came out the armed services from that era motivated to make a difference in the country.
I really appreciate the historical reflections here. It cannot be forgotten how horribly the Warren Court was cursed (Impeach Earl Warren!) during the day. Ironic how Eisenhower would diss that significant appointment. And let us not forget that the Sr. Bush said that race had nothing to do with the Thomas appointment; he was in fact the most qualified person…Look has prescient he was: race is not to be a factor, ever. I guess he is almost as big a liar as his son. W would of course argue that race has had nothing to do with his Katrina neglect either. The outrage really does not stop; let that empower us. King’s words that hate is too big a burden to bear; he would hold out hope. Recall LBJ’s saying “We Shall Overcome.”
Christy, thank you for a wonderful, eloquent post (and the same to Scarecrow for his equally impassioned post earlier).
In your paragraph about the PBS forum, is it possible for you to clarify your comment about “the progressive will”?
I truly appreciate the quality of legal thought here on FDL, especially having just finished jury duty yesterday that ended in a hung jury. The perspective given me by FDL really helped in understanding both the law and the technical issues that can come up during trial and deliberation.
GeorgeSimian @ 16
busheviks won’t answer subpoenas because, with the composition of the SCROTUS, they know the’d win in a crisis…the Opus Dei faction–big fans of the unitary executive–would prevail…
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“You’ve got to be taught
To hate and fear,
You’ve got to be taught
From year to year,
It’s got to be drummed
In your dear little ear
You’ve got to be carefully taught.
You’ve got to be taught to be afraid
Of people whose eyes are oddly made,
And people whose skin is a diff’rent shade,
You’ve got to be carefully taught.
You’ve got to be taught before it’s too late,
Before you are six or seven or eight,
To hate all the people your relatives hate,
You’ve got to be carefully taught!”
What’s the matter, folks? Don’t you like Musical Comedy?
Bill E. @ 39
I totally agree with universal service. I know it’s not popular and that it would be difficult to have it be really “universal” but I think you pop was spot on.
I went to a public highschool with a good racial mix. When I went to university I was surprised and saddened by the overwhe elmingly white environment. My fellow students had largely gone to private schools where this was normal and I think that their lives were poorer for the lake of racial and socio-economic diversity.
Right now, my daughter is finishing her last year of pre-school at a very diverse school and she herself is mixed race (Asian-Caucasian). When asked to describe people, including her friends, she does not use words like “black” or “white” to describe people. If/when she does I know I’ll feel very sad. Kids are so much smarter than people, but eventually they get tainted by the institutional racism ingrained in our system. We must fight against those who would deny the existence of inequality in our society much as some deny the genocide of the holocaust or Darfur.
In the earlier post Scarecrow did well to mention Leegin and the thorough destruction of antitrust law. The 1911 precedent Scarecrow mentions, “Dr. Miles” so named after a patent medicine company, held that two or more companies COULD NOT conspire among themselves to adhere to a higher, fixed price than would result from free competition without the agreement. Under Miles (which was itself an interpretation of Section 1 of the Sherman Antitrust Act) such behavior was defined as a “Combination in restraint of trade.”
With Miles in force, companies had to be very careful about intercorporate communication because any frank discussion of price setting agreements was prima facie evidence of illegal behavior. (Believe it or not, some executives have occasionally been that stupid.) No more.
Now we can count on a Roberts Court to find more and more circumstances in which a price fixing agreement “enhances” competiton.
Scarecrow was also on target when referring to the energy industry but with tens of thousands of gas stations it would be hard to fix gasoline prices at retail. The real problem is at the refinery level: Gasoline usage is up year over year, but refinery capacity utilization is down. My guess is that the companies are in tacit conspiracy not to spend enough on repair and replacement at refineries… so outages are inevitable but easy to explain away. Net result: the price of gasoline is much higher this year than in years past, given the current crude price.
OPEC knows what the companies are doing in the US. As the WSJ noted about three weeks ago, OPEC has no reason to export more oil to the US (as some people had urged) when the companies are building up crude stocks and not producing gasoline.
raven @ 46
sorry for typo, your pop!
Swordswoman at 42 — I just did a little redraft on that sentence — am trying to write this morning and fix breakfast for the in-laws and that really got garbled in the writing, didn’t it? See if the redraft makes more sense…
It makes me queasy and sad to see the progress made from the New Deal through the Civil Rights period being systematically destroyed.
The Supreme Court was stinking pretty loudly when it gave the 2000 election to the Loser. Disrespect for the institution may be tragic, but (as detailed above) earned.
Every day it appears more and more unlikely that the justice system, increasingly polluted by the Bush administration, will deliver a just outcome to any question. Every judicial setback that this brazenly criminal administration receives is a surprise.
Even after Bush and Cheney have slunk off to undeserved comfort and retirement, their judges will continue to dole out injustice at every opportunity. Does it make sense to start planning now to ensure that justice will return with or without the support of the judiciary?
The Republicans cannot win a fair election. This may have been debatable in 2000, 2002, 2004, and 2006, but it is clear to everyone, including the Republicans, that their success in domestic, international, and planetary destruction has somehow managed to sweep up their party as well. We can all feel the Republican candidates’ need for more destruction, because it’s all they know. It permeates their world view–both their fears and their hopes.
Assuming that the United States finds a way to avoid the theft of another election, how can it deal with courts populated by judges who don’t believe in justice?
How hard would it be to create regulations and legislation that return justice, equity, and hope to the general population and restore some credibility to our international posture?
What measures are necessary?
Then, what measures are desirable?
If the Supreme Court continues to declare justice unconstitutional, what amendments are necessary, and what is the best strategy for their passage?
I so hate it when we all see this train wreck coming down the road and we can’t stop it.
We made the calls, wrote the letters, sent the faxes to our senators—the dems!—and they were so busy keeping their powder dry that we all got screwed.
I remember laughing out loud reading a post at Kos about dry powder. None of us are laughing now.
Marie Roget @ 31
Hiccupping computer finally coughed up a direct link:
Ace Supreme
We have to constantly bear in mind – and pass on to our children – that just as strongly as we Dream like Dr. King of equity and Justice for all –
The slavers of The Agenda are actively working towards class discrimination and domination against the rest of us.
BushCo really believe – with all their black little hearts – that ‘they’ own this Country.
They believe that they wrote the Constitution for their own ‘pleasure’ 230 years ago, but could take it all back and re-swizzle it, at any time, to ensure their ‘Control’ and serve their pleasure, as the Masters.
Bush isn’t asking us about it, he’s doing it, while hiding his activities from US.
“The history of failure in war can almost be summed up in two words, too late. Too late in comprehending the deadly purpose of a potential enemy. Too late in realizing mortal danger. Too late in preparedness. Too late in uniting all possible forces for resistance. Too late in standing with one’s friends.”
~ Gen. Douglas MacArthur
sofistic — Am jealous that you got to do jury duty. I never make it past “attorney and former prosecutor” before I get struck. SIGH I’ve always wanted to get to do jury duty but, alas, as yet have not had the chance.
To 42: Christy will answer for herself. But the hope and energy of the “progressive will” were palpable. Most of the candidates had articulate solutions, etc. Taxes changes, medical care, early childhood education, etc. But, moreover, the tone that these things matter in a framework of the widening inequality gap, lost opportunities, particularly for Black people, aids, a whole aura of concern and respect and solutions, let alone the recognition that this sinful, unjust war has stripped our treasury while rewarding the rich. I think I had forgotten was progressive hope sounds like; it was very moving.
My freshman year in college (1970), we had to take a semester long orientation course for 1 credit hour. About halfway through the semester, the instructor walked in one afternoon, turned on a tape player and wlaked out. It was a tape of the “I have a dream” speech. I had never heard it before then and remember that it was totally mesmerizing.
Dr King is mourning today along with Earl Warren and Thurgood Marshall.
OT but a slightly cheering scene: The sun is currently shining in San Antonio and I can see a beautiful cardinal flitting through the trees in the back yard. We take what we can get sometimes.
Christy Hardin Smith @ 29
I think it’s interesting that Roberts-Alito jurisprudence is actually quite different from Scalia-Thomas in that Scalia has a well formed view of how he would redo the courts precedents and is willing to take the court that way; he is the Conservative Bloc’s William Brennan in that way. Roberts and Alito are far more cautious and while they may arrive at the same results their reasoning appears to differ. This means–as we knew it always would–the NEXT justice is the key one. For Republicans, I think the realization is there that the only Conservative they might get through is a Senator like Orrin Hatch should an opening occur now–otherwise, the Next President will making the pick, which means it’s the outcome of the next Presidential election that will decide jurisprudence for years to come. That scares Republicans, frankly, knowing that right now, they’re coming from behind. So next year will be fierce. It’s why I was startled to find so much dejection here. I think both sides know that the fight is out there for next year.
“And that is what worries me — not for this term’s decisions, but for all the ones to come.”
Hard not to get discouraged by this simple, depressing inevitability. Bush’s (damage) influence on the nature and make-up of the Supreme Court will be felt for at least another generation, maybe longer.
Dems may take back two of the lost branches in 2008, but it will be a while before this Star Chamber Supreme Court is done wreaking havoc on our precious concept of precedent.
And it will be in their obvious role as ccorporate protectors that these rogues will have their most pernicious influence. And in the process, many of our venerated legal social victories will be victims, too, as these conservative activists amp-up class struggles economically, which will inevitably complicate them culturally. Crime rates will rise, prisons will burst with petty “sorta-criminals”, but the billion dollar book-cookers will remain immune to it all, because they now have their activist judges in place.
All that campaign money they spent on the Republican machine over tha past two decades really paid off big time, it will be a few long years before Corporate America once again faces the same moral and legal requirements applied to our society in general.
If ever there was Supreme Court for Two Americas, it is this one…
But Roberts was so articulate and so well mannered and so knowledgeable and such a LIAR.
Sorry to go OfT, but I must say that, in the aftermath of the bomb scare in London today, I saw a couple of interesting ‘man-on-the-street’ interviews of Londoners which were quite refreshing.
To paraphrase – “well of course this is scary, but we can’t give in and give them the victory of spoiling our lives and making us live in fear, now can we?”
It was on CNN, and even the rubes at the desk commented on the stark difference in the difference in how U.S. and U.K. citizens react to terrorist threats.
raven @ 46
It wouldn’t have to be “military” service — Goddess knows there’s many things that could harness young people’s energy.
Like building houses for the poor, teaching people to read, child care…the list is endless, and this could be a way to help them find a career that would be satisfying — not just “I have to have a job to pay the bills.”
Sally @ 61
And had such a lovely wife, let’s not forget the “little woman.”
Well, I’m not sure what happened to my text (feel free to delete 59, mods), but once again, H/T to your late father, Bill, and to you for a wonderful tribute.
One can only wonder how people who get so miffed about affirmative action would have coped with slavery and lynchings, reservation boarding schools, not being able to vote, relocation centers, and the like.
jayt at 62 — It was like that after the subway attacks as well. That wonderful British “screw you, I’m going to the pub” attitude. Love it. Now THAT is some spunky attitude — “I’m British, and you aren’t going to scare me.” We need more of that here instead of the fear, fear, FEAR.
“Stop in the name of love, before you break my heart – - think it over.”
Life is lyrical?
Sally @ 61
everybody knew he was lying.
everybody fucking knew.
and they let him lie.
and they confirmed him anyway.
what, there were 22 Dem votes confirming that slimy faucking blue-eyed Aryan asshole…
they knew he was lying to ‘em, and they pretended he wasn’t and they confirmed him…
please: who’s side are the Dems on, actually?
I will never forget the pain and the tribulations that poor Mrs. Alito had to suffer through. It was so tragic.
So unlike those Jersey Broads……
-GSD
Good Morning Christy!
How wonderful to get to the Lake just in time to read your beautiful Clarion Call to ACTION!
I came through Jr. High School in the early 50’s. Somehow, in spite of the rest of our family (wonderful people otherwise, but civil rights? not so much – other than that, i won’t revisit, with your kind indulgence), I became a flaming civil rights advocate. I don’t know how or why, except I remember being utterly repulsed by the unfairness in our world. My parents were polite to the black maid who came on alternate Tuesdays to help clean our house. But that invisible WALL was always there. I received “the look” if I talked pleasantries with her in my mother’s presence. I was abruptly pulled up short by both parents if I dared to say anything about the civil rights movement in our house. In my kid-style rebellion, I became best friends with a black girl in school. We enjoyed eachother’s company all through high school, but lost touch after that, unfortunately.
Our public schools were always integrated. The football great, Jim Brown, was a hero of our high school. Yet I know exactly what he meant, years later, when he referred to his discomfort attending that school. The racism was mostly subtle(?) and quiet, but it ran deep and wide. I’m talking suburbs just outside of New York City.
We MUST NOT return to those days! NO ONE will get me to hush on this topic ever, ever again.
Reporting for duty, General Redd.
Where to we begin? What do we do?
I’m already signed up. ;->
GSD at 69 — Yes, Mrs. Alito’s oh so subtle Kodak moment was so…well…subtle. Ahem.
Please indulge me my fantasy of having an 11 year term for supremes, renewable once.
White House Making Midnight Trade Deals
Im sorry this is off topic but “fast track” expires June 30
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/6/29/85242/4144
A populace trained in warfare–or at least desensitized to actually doing it–through the expedient of a national service ‘draft’ could be a formidable bulwark against the further encroachment of the nascent SS/SA…
one of the reasons the busheviks have used the National Guard in Iraq likely has been to condition ‘em to follow orders and shoot ‘insurgents’ wherever they find ‘em…
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disparate
I know this is a huge question, but what is the role of precedent in supreme court decisions. It just strikes me that you shouldn’t overturn long-standing precedent without an awfully good reason.
AP – The Supreme Court, reversing course, agreed Friday to review whether Guantanamo Bay detainees may go to federal court to challenge their indefinite confinement.
Re fear, I keep coming back to Kung Fu Monkey:
[quote]
FDR: Oh, I’m sorry, was wiping out our entire Pacific fleet supposed to intimidate us? We have nothing to fear but fear itself, and right now we’re coming to kick your ass with brand new destroyers riveted by waitresses. How’s that going to feel?
CHURCHILL: Yeah, you keep bombing us. We’ll be in the pub, flipping you off. I’m slapping Rolls-Royce engines into untested flying coffins to knock you out of the skies, and then I’m sending angry Welshmen to burn your country from the Rhine to the Polish border.
US. NOW: BE AFRAID!! Oh God, the Brown Bad people could strike any moment! They could strike … NOW!! AHHHH. Okay, how about .. NOW!! AAGAGAHAHAHHAG! Quick, do whatever we tell you, and believe whatever we tell you, or YOU WILL BE KILLED BY BROWN PEOPLE!! PUT DOWN THAT SIPPY CUP!!
… and I’m just a little tired of being on the wrong side of that historical arc.
[end quote]
egregious at 78 – That is one of my all-time fave Kung Fu Monkey posts. Thanks for reposting it.
they don’t need to hush you if they can ignore you…
after yesterday, they can ignore you…
sorry bout dat…
Oh, and my other question – what does it take to impeach and dump a supreme court justice? Is it enough to have misrepresented your views during the confirmation process? Who judges the judges?
egregious @78: I would mildly point out that FDR had a lot of little brown people rounded up in California internment camps. A number of Germans were interned without trials as well.
Christy Hardin Smith @ 71
Yes, the Bush/Coulter Republicans only respond to emotions when it is someone that belongs to their private little club.
Anyone else with feelings is a “boo-fricken’ hoo” crybaby, whiner, a feminized liberal softy.
Old Charlton Heston was right.
-GSD
Fern @ 81
the senate, which permitted the misrepresentations to go unchallenged in the first place…
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The sad thing is that gutting Brown is just a mile post for these people..the are just warming up. Roe will be next. The really sickening thing is that undoing of social programs will be the “bits of red meat” thrown to the lizard brains. The really bad stuff will economic, individual rights and power of the exec. Roberts and Alito want a nice, well run, fascist-police state or a theocratic police state; I’m not sure which.
Liberty—
I wasn’t holding them up as saints. This is from a parody about fear.
Christy Hardin Smith @ 66
Christy,
You are so right. We lack leaders with souls and brains to articulate this, to embolden thoughtful people, thoughtful people who live in an enormous country with some deep divides.
First, we reach across our own divides and then, holding hands and locking arms we present our case to our country, to the press and finally the world. The world is waiting for the true voice of the United States to speak from the heart.
LibertyLee @ 82
They were Malkinized.
-GSD
egregious @ 86
OK, sorry…understood…
The Supremes had to establish that this Court will overturn precedent, before they throw-out Marbury for the Bush Subpoenas.
That’s the real message here – you can’t re-make government without over-turning precedent.
This is bigger than the Education decision – The Roberts Court is signalling that it’s willing to re-make government.
LibertyLee @ 59
This means–as we knew it always would–the NEXT justice is the key one.
Not really. The conservatives already have a majority. The next Justice to be replaced will likely be Stevens. His replacement will either strengthen the conservative majority or maintain the status quo.
The dismantling of antitrust law is also pissing me off. Don’t talk to me about free markets and then defend price fixing.
dam it impeach.Thomas and scolia had an absolute conflict of intrest in bush VS Gore. Bush employed their family members in his campaign.
There is no statute of limitation on conflict of intrest and they should be removed for that.Changes back the balance to favor the people.
I know not now but make your congressman running next time to pledge to impeach or do everything in our power to prevent them from winning.Watch them sqirm to support this miscarriage of justice
wgg: rogue scholar @ 79
I realize, thanks.
Let’s just put it this way: I know how to be hard to ignore, when I need to. Everyone should learn those tricks, I guess. This may be a long, bumpy ride into the future.
Keep teachin’ & preachin’ Dawgs! We need the combined wisdom at this site more than ever.
The Bush/Coulter Republicans defend no bid and cost plus massive federal contracts.
Where’s the competition in those schemes?
-GSD
old gold @ 91
And whoever it is won’t be as bold as Stevens in speaking out for the rights of the little people.
David Ehrenstein @ 45
R&H faced a lot of criticism for that song back in the 50s?? or so. I remember seeing the movie in my hometown in New Mexico, and some of the parents walked out. I was just a kid and didn’t know better/worse.
sorry, mods, about my double-post.
I have an awful time with this new posting system.
Is it no longer possible to edit after going past the initial “Preview” stage? Shoot! I thot I’d caught all the boo boo’s, then spotted one, tried to fix & backtrack thru the jibberish ‘n… well…
phooey! and apologies. *sigh*
radiofreewill @ 89
Totally agree, just hope Justice Stevens is healthy for two more years. Justice Kennedy has, it looks like, joined the Roberts-Alito-Scalia axis of evil. It’s sad to say, but after the latest abortion decision…the religion of the next justice is going to be a huge factor.
There is nothing wrong in impeachment.
It is in the Constitution as a remedy.
The only power, the Dems have, at this juncture is the “purse” and we lost that one when Rahm’s motion to withhold money from Stonewall’s account failed.
Pelosi made a serious error in judgment when she said impeachment was not on the agenda.
Hope she has changed her mind..
Also, Roberts and Alito are just warming up. They are sounding a bit wishy-washy because that is what they claimed they were when they testi-lied before Congress.
Give ‘em another year and they’ll be shoving the shit down our throats with a plunger and totally skipping over the Hamlet style pap.
-GSD
The only way we are going to change this is to work our butts off for progressive senate candidates and pres. to get them elected. Then we have to keep people like Casey and Salazar FAR from the Judiciary Committee.
You bet your little socks they did. They were told to take it out of the show on numerous occasions. But being Rodgers and Hammerstein they said “Fuck Off!”
Musically, of course.
Could someone please explain to me where the habeas corpus fight is at the moment? I’ve contacted my congresscritters…
Is there some chance it could be tacked onto other legislation? I can’t see anything listed in upcoming leg. bidness that’s directly involved.
Please. What, if anything, is in process, other than us pulling our hair and shouting? I’m perfectly willing to keep doing that, but…
Thanks.. ;->
David Ehrenstein @ 102
Their little Gilbert & Sullivan moment? ;->
I don’t agree with electing the Caseys and the Salazars just to gain a majority.
Settling for middle-of-the-road half-assed losers like these is part of what got us in this mess to begin with.
RevDeb @ 102
I have the number “60″ firmly grounded. RGJoe irrelevant. Gotta make it happen.
well it looks like colon powel is fianlly realizing he’s got to do something about the cheney branch of government and he’s adding some amo
got this from think progress, check it out;
powel is a two chapters late but we can use all the amo we can get our hands on, these idiots have to be stopped
Biodun @ 34
Don’t spend too much time trying to make sense out of this statement because it is garble, a reflection of how his mind works. Scary that these are the words of the “wise”. Again they prove, power over other humans is too great for the small minded human.
SilenceIris @ 108
Yep.
Saloser.
-GSD
Stevens is a good example of how far the GOP has drifted to the right over the past quater century or so.
Stevens was a traditional Eisenhower Republican. He was first appointed to the federal jusdiciary by Nixon. He was elevated to the Supreme Court by Ford. At the time of his confirmation hearing GOP Senators were told he “would vote like a good Republican.”
Steve @ 84
i doubt they’d see the difference…
WASF
I’m leaving for a father – daughter camping weekend. Tonight’s campfire chat? yup “The ghost of Thurgood Marshall and his plans to haunt the halls of justice.” . . .
radiofreewill @ 90
I’m not quite willing to pull out the tent pegs on the Republic — yet. But the Roberts Court (how I loathe typing that) clearly has a construction of the Constitution which favors the rights of the privileged over the less fortunate, and is interested in protecting property and corporate interests in a truly radical way.
Most all of us born before the Reagan era understood in some way that the United States was a project that meant providing more and better opportunities for more people — and we saw concrete results of that, with strong economic growth as a result of the GI Bill, and positive social change as a result of the Civil Rights movement. I grew up expecting more freedom, more opportunity for more people.
What passes for leadership not only is willing to settle for less, they actively want people to have fewer opportunities, and less freedom — unless, of course, you’re rich and white and (at least superficially) Christian. And the Roberts Court seems ready, willing, and able to support this.
please, someone? my 104? thanks…
perris @ 108
everything you need to know bout Powell is revealed in his willingness–nay, his enthusiasm–to assist in the My Lai cover-up…
Adie — it’s already there — refresh the whole page to see it.
It may be time to start laying the ground work for the idea of court expansion. GSD is right, these people are just warming up and all are relatively young..Kennedy and Scalia are the oldest at 71 years. I had hoped that Kennedy might show some judicial restraint..looks like that ain’t going to happen. Scalia is crazy, Thomas is dumb and Roberts and Alito are very bad people..what a mess.
Packing the court may be the only way..I don’t see Kennedy being another Justice Owen Roberts..who switched sides in 1937..the justice who was “the switch in time to save nine”.
Perris at 107:
At the risk of offending some and I apologize in advance if I do. Powell is nothing but an
U—e T-m for the Republicans.
For anyone needing fictional relief from all of this I highly recommend a book called The Fourth Procedure by Stanley Pottinger. Let’s just say that a newly appointed anti-choice Chief Justice is taught a lesson.
old gold @ 91
That’s not totally true. A number of these opinions are plurality opinions, particularly the school case; that means they really don’t have a lot of precedential value. They don’t establish a “line” of conservative cases. It will take one more Justice to get a Conservative majority; a Liberal Choice would actually swing it back on most issues, if narrowly.
I contacted Salazar’s office and asked if they were proud of the Senator’s efforts to help with this week’s 5-4 decisions….. reminding them
the Gang of 14 deal was instrumental in permitting Supreme Court nominee Samuel Alito an up-or-down vote, as his vote for confirmation (58 for to 42 against) would not have been adequate to overcome a party-line filibuster (i.e. did not equal or exceed 60 votes).
On topic in the sense that “you win some, you lose some…” see today’s US NEWS …Here’s some of it…
Bush Sinking Along With Immigration Bill
The Senate immigration reform bill yesterday died in the Senate when supporters failed to muster the 60 votes needed to end debate on the measure. The bill’s widely-reported demise on a 46-53 vote was portrayed by the media as a defeat for President Bush, who was unable to persuade more than 12 members of his own party to support it.
The story was the lead on CBS, and was reported prominently by the NBC and ABC, garnering a combined 11 and a half minutes of network tv coverage. The CBS Evening News reported, “The Senate killed the immigration overhaul. And members of the President’s own party deserted him.” A “new CBS News poll shows only 13% of Americans thought the Senate should pass the bill. 35% said no.” In a second story on the CBS Evening News, news analyst Douglas Brinkley was shown: “Failure of the immigration bill means that George Bush is beyond being a lame-duck President. He’s a dead-duck President.” NBC Nightly News reported, “It’s a big loss for President Bush, who pushed hard to revive this bill, only to see it lose big today.” In an analysis story on NBC Nightly News, Washington bureau chief Tim Russert said, “I think there’s a growing sense, a strong sense, that Washington is just broken.”
Adie at 104 — It’s still in committee — in both houses. There hasn’t been a vote scheduled in either house as yet in terms of a committee vote. Once it gets voted through the respective judiciary committees, then it goes to the floor of both. So, they are in the early stages at this point. We have more coming up about that later today.
whereabouts in NM? from your comments, somewhere south, i imagine? clovis, roswell, cruces, silver?
I’m from north of Santa Fe–Nambe/Pojoaque…
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Christy Hardin Smith @ 118
Thanks Christy. I see 104. I was just hoping for some info about the habeas fight. I missed some stuff this week… Has there been any movement at all? Is there any status to report?
sorry to be a bother.
wgg: rogue scholar @ 125
Las Cruces – way south, just north of El Paso, where they kept alligators in the town square.
Adie @ 127
oops! just got it. Thanks MUCH! ;->
egregious @ 78
I get the point here, but have to challenge the basis: What we lost at Pearl Harbor was (conveniently) the obsolete portion of our fleet, due (or overdue) for decommissioning. A little known fact lost in the nationalistic sentiment needed & used by FDR in a way not unlike George Bush & 911.
No sacred cows for me.
Steve @ 120
ya, I brought this up a few days ago;
a swtich in time to save nine
roosevelt threatened and the courts changed their position to keep it from happening
Bill E. @ 40
Your dad and I tink a lot alike regarding the draft and its beneficial effect on the outlook of those who have to serve. You get exposed to a lot of different people.
Hi, firepups…
Just back from 8 days in Florida dealing with my ailing Mom. Been outa the news loop pretty much.
The Roberts Court? Folks, the Bushies’ obvious intent is the installation of a suffocating Oligarchy.
At best. Cheney would favor an overt Stalinist regime — with him as Uncle Joe.
If Bush gets to put one more Roberts/Alito on the Court, I shudder to think.
OT..but some good news..
Scientists find way to separate HIV virus from cells
http://rawstory.com/news/2007/….._0629.html
The bad news will be when the SCOTUS rules that “Biological Science” is not biblical and therefore unconstitutional.
OT, but … This is a rumor of a rumor: high-ranking officers pulled out of Iraq back to States for briefing on invasion of Iran, early July.
Ignore? Panic? Investigate?
Any rumblings on what tonight’s newsdump will be? I think they may go big, since the London bomb will give them plenty of cover.
Christy Hardin Smith @ 39
Christy, I think GeorgeSimian @16 hit on the reason for this decision. Distraction from the real issues.
behindthefall @ 135
USS Enterprise is on its way over there as we speak. Cheney is pushing on!! Seems that Congress is prepared to let them do it.
Lindy @ 136
from now on, any time this Court grants cert, it will be to overturn precendent…
Frank Probst @ 137
ya
behindthefall @ 136
Henceforth, anytime the Court grants cert, it will be for the purpose of overturning precedent.
Christy, I can only assume your title references the King Crimson classic “Moonchild” — juxtaposing the Moon Child with the Sun Child — in telling the story of your daughter meeting her new friend.
What a lovely image:
I only wish our court system hadn’t trod upon it.
radiofreewill @ 8:00 am -
I don’t think that the Supreme Court will relinquish its prerogative of judicial review. What part of Marbury v. Madison do you think the Supreme Court will overturn?
behindthefall @ 135
Well, that does dovetail with this:
Carrier groups pack the Persian Gulf.
I fear that the “international elements” that the media is talking about in the London car bombing plot will be laid at the feet of Iran.
Causus belli for a massive missile attack.
-GSD
Completely OT: Norway’s Statoil and Hydro (their 2 main energy companies – state owned I think) have been placed on the Terror List by the SEC for dealings with Iran and Cuba. D’ya think the SEC might consider putting the U.S. on the Terror List, since Halliburton has dealings with Iran?? Nah.. Interestingly, Norway cut a deal in 2005 that pissed of Baghdad leaders when they cut a big deal to drill in “Kurdistan”…
mods: mine @ 138 is a mess, and i repeated the point, widdout cites, @ 140
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The “surge” is having a clear effect in Iraq. There have been months in the past where we have suffered losses over 100- but never TWO consecutive months over 100. We now have THREE consecutive months of losses over 100. The White House is tryin it’s best to find IMPROVEMENTS- but they seem to be coming up dry- other observors claim that things are getting WORSE!! WORSE!!
Nice Job Mr. President.
I think the FDR court changed due to his landslide reelection in ‘36. Early 1937, IIRC, it was the Chief who reversed a 5-4 striking to approving a Labor law.
GSD @ 144
I thought the same when I heard the car was loaded with nails. Maybe it is just a car with a full tank of gas, and a box of nails in it…
Stephen Parrish, CPA @ 142
i dunno…what part of Marbury has to go to permit the theory of the unitary executive to prevail…
cuz that’s their real agenda…
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Ya gotta see the next thread from Christy.
FDR considered expanding the number of Supremes to 12.
It was called court packing. Could it be the way out of this
horrible situation we now face with the Roberts court. Could a
Democratic Congress in 08 pull this off. Or would it be wiser to
overturn Supreme Court decisions with new laws from Congress
with a Democratic President. Or is all this all wishful thinking?.
Harry Reid mentioned this morning that 5 US troops died yesterday and then added “that we know about”…
I fear that the “international elements” that the media is talking about in the London car bombing plot will be laid at the feet of Iran.
Causus belli for a massive missile attack.
-GSD
I’m smellin’ it. Hope it’s just the something I stepped in.
Social Security is the thing that scares me. They couldn’t get their private accounts through legislation. Could they get rid of Social Security by overturning the Supreme Court decisions of the 1930’s regarding the consititutionality of a social insurance program?
Christy -
Do all these cases antedate enactment of the Military Commissions Act? Is the Supreme Court granting certiorari so that it can exercise its prerogative of judicial review, the Military Commissions Act notwithstanding?
Fresh thread, up and ready for the reading.
behindthefall @ 135
I’d dismiss it as sabre rattling, if not for the fact that we have an idle & under-utilized Navy and a psychotic & over-utilized 4th Branch of government.
Pray for deliverance.
Brisingamen @ 63
I meant to say just that! Thanks.
Stephen at 156 — Don’t know as yet — there was a limited bit of information out and it’s not clear yet.
Anyone else out there from Maryland? In response to the first “call” here, I contacted both Cardin & Mikulski re S. 185. [Senate bill to restore habeas corpus.] Cardin is now a sponsor [oh, I’m SO powerful], but Mikulski’s still hasn’t signed on.
I’m getting ready to write her again and wanted to see if some others might too.
LS @ 138
Christy, GSD, LS, and anyone else with an interest in reading this – Although I know we’ve moved on to another thread about Jane, I think that it is appropriate to post a comment in this thread in reply to what’s been posted upthread about contemplated military action against Iran. Please, when time permits, read this long special report from Truthout: Bush, Mideast Wars and End-Time Prophecy
I really don’t know why you are so disappointed. Are you really shocked that Alito or Roberts lied to Congress or to anyone else?
I can’t think of a single Republican whose word I can trust. Sure there must be a few Republicans who don’t lie (and who knows how many Democrats). A blanket statement can’t be made about any group.
I don’t believe a single word that comes out of this administration regarding the war, any statistics on any topic, etc.
I am neither Republican nor Democrat. I have never heard a single politican that comes off as genuine. I am in my 50s. I have never voted and I never will. I was also born and still live in Arizona. I never stop laughing at the idea of John McCain, my senator, as being a straight talker. I don’t recall him being a straight talker regarding his involvement in the Keating affair years ago.
Yes, it’s sad to see what is happening in the Supreme Court, but there is no one to blame but spineless Democrats who refuse to stand up to this administration.
I’ve heard it said that if you don’t vote, you can’t say anything about politics. I don’t buy that argument anymore than “America-love it or leave it.” When I finally see and hear a genuine politican, I’ll vote.
I read political blogs for 2 hours every day. I may not vote, but I always want to know what the scoundrels are up to.
brio @ 163
Vote a little…you might like it.
First the Presidency was stolen, and now justice. We were too complacent and too civil. The Presidency was stolen with the complicity of right wing ideological justices. It was done with the particular purpose of changing the direction of the court. It is not a reflection of the will of the people. It is not a court working toward justice. It is a stacked court, like the rest of the Bush justice system. In contradiction to their stated support of stare decisis, they are there precisely to overturn it. Yes, they lied. They cheated and they lied. This result could not have happened any other way. Our government has been kidnapped and corrupted, and it will take years to take it back. Chief Justic Roberts’ clever little comment summing up his position reveals contempt for the history of the issue of race in this country. He may have a prodigious ability to cite cases, chapter and verse, but he reveals to us that to be a great justice requires much more. The best of them have integrity, wisdom, empathy and knowledge of the country’s history. Justice Robert’s has yet to demonstrate any of these characteristics.
portia.vz @ 155
Let them try and there will be a serious uprising. I have no doubt this nasty thought crossed their mean little minds.
brio @ 163
I feel the same way coming from Louisiana I only know corrupt politicians. Now I live in California and see a lot of spineless and corrupt politicians. However, I do vote. If you don’t want to vote for the politicians vote for the issues. Also, your word still counts and you have a congressman and senators so call them. You are still their constituent. Hold their feet to the fire.
portia.vz @ 155
Not going to happen — Social Security is the proverbial third rail of US politics — touch it and die…
Besides, I used to work for Social Security, and the fix isn’t very difficult, just unpopular. All they need to do is to remove the cap on wages.
Right now when someone’s yearly salary goes above $99,000, the amount of OASDI tax they pay is capped at that level. So someone earning $200K or more only pays OASDI tax on the first $99K.
I’m probably preaching to the choir, but I’ll say it anyway. DO NOT make Social Security your sole source of retirement funds. It is intended to be a supplement to your retirement income not your sole source of funds.
To: 167 and the thoughts about social legislation. I’ve had the same fleeting thought about the GI bill. You know, without the draft, there is not so much appeal since the warriors may not be “our” boys…and as the Sr. Barbara says, “those people” will be just as happy going to war and not having to worry about a GI bill. The returning vets. are very different from the Greatest generation after WWII, after all. Surely, I must be wrong.
Citizen Jane @ 25 suffers from an image of Clarence Thomas as a porn lover; I can’t see his name (let alone anything else of him) without recalling ‘Long Dong Silver’ Eeeeew. Not to mention the pubic hairs on the Coke can. But he was assuredly the most qualified jurist to succeed Thurgood Marshall, or he would not have been confirmed, right?
When my son was only 5 years old, he left his jacket at school. I told him to be sure to bring it home. The next day, no jacket. I asked him again — the next day, he said he couldn’t find the kid he loaned it to. So, on Day 3, I went to the school. I asked him the child’s name. He didn’t know. I asked him to describe the child so I could locate him on the playground. I got things like, “He is taller than I am,” “He likes such-and-such” TV show,” but not much else. When I finally found him, I was astonished to find out he was black. I asked my son, “Why didn’t you tell me he was black?” (This would have narrowed down the field immensely.) He just had a confused look on his face. CHILDREN don’t see BLACK and WHITE as much as adults do.
Steven Parrish – Sorry for the late reply, but the power has been out here for most of the day.
The part of Marbury I expect the Supremes to drop is the compulsion aspect – the Court forcing the president to take an action – like surrendering the subpoenaed documents.
Bush will argue that Marbury doesn’t apply when the UE has been invoked.
Says much and says it well, from Rockstroh:http://www.smirkingchimp.com/node/8371.
Where’s it headed? Civil War. Lord of the Flies.
Are you teaching your child to fight as in insurgency, as in freedom fighter, as in that which created America: REVOLUTION, Christy? Or will we Jack and the Beanstalk our way until the civil war is foisted upon us? Can’t happen here? Bullshit. It’s happening by degree day by day. Ask the Palestinians. Ask the Iraqis. With the usual mix of white supremacy and savagery, we will likely be incited to fight these brown folks flooding into America because of the economic desperation in their homeland. Yes, we will fight among ourselves before long. Social engineering at its worst. The uni bomber was on to something. SCOTUS is giving us yet another glimpse of Full Spectrum Dominance as its carefully laid design continues to shit upon the world.