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		<title>By: larue</title>
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		<dc:creator>larue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jun 2007 05:01:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-788334&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;SilenceIris @ 5&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Wow, somebody really thought talking about equal pay for women was a waste of time? Seriously?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Not that I recall . . . I won’t do a thread search and sort, but, I vaguely recall a general dissatisfaction that bloggers coulnd’t address OTHER candidate issues . . . and a lot of disgruntled pup comments were about the fact that the whole ‘interview’ seemed rigged aforehand to AVOID all other topics. That’s what I vaguely, recall.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Jane Wrote Above: “Hillary Clinton took a lot of guff from angry men when she appeared on FDL who did not think that talking about equal pay for women was an important topic for a presidential candidate to be speaking about,”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I just don’t recall it that way. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I’d like to know why Jane Hamsher is so gung ho on HRC for prez . . . and shouting down males in opposition to HRC, but not talking much about WOMEN who don’t support HRC . .  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I’d like to know this . . . . given that HRC is NOT going to further peace, non-interventionist policies, a reduction in colonial rule and expansion, is NOT going to make an investment in the middle class, and only really represents one percenters looking to consolidate MORE wealth and power into their own hands at the expense of the middle class.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;What’s your stake in HRC, Jane? &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;What’s your STAKE in a candidate who basically, represents the status quo, and represents NOTHING of the values of the progressive blogosphere, which YOU and FDL claim to be a LEADER of such . . . . I’d like to see a FDL mission statement on that. I really would. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Harumph.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-788334"><em>SilenceIris @ 5</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Wow, somebody really thought talking about equal pay for women was a waste of time? Seriously?</p>
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<p>Not that I recall . . . I won’t do a thread search and sort, but, I vaguely recall a general dissatisfaction that bloggers coulnd’t address OTHER candidate issues . . . and a lot of disgruntled pup comments were about the fact that the whole ‘interview’ seemed rigged aforehand to AVOID all other topics. That’s what I vaguely, recall.</p>
<p>Jane Wrote Above: “Hillary Clinton took a lot of guff from angry men when she appeared on FDL who did not think that talking about equal pay for women was an important topic for a presidential candidate to be speaking about,”</p>
<p>I just don’t recall it that way. </p>
<p>I’d like to know why Jane Hamsher is so gung ho on HRC for prez . . . and shouting down males in opposition to HRC, but not talking much about WOMEN who don’t support HRC . .  </p>
<p>I’d like to know this . . . . given that HRC is NOT going to further peace, non-interventionist policies, a reduction in colonial rule and expansion, is NOT going to make an investment in the middle class, and only really represents one percenters looking to consolidate MORE wealth and power into their own hands at the expense of the middle class.</p>
<p>What’s your stake in HRC, Jane? </p>
<p>What’s your STAKE in a candidate who basically, represents the status quo, and represents NOTHING of the values of the progressive blogosphere, which YOU and FDL claim to be a LEADER of such . . . . I’d like to see a FDL mission statement on that. I really would. </p>
<p>Harumph.</p>
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		<title>By: maggierose</title>
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		<dc:creator>maggierose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jun 2007 04:06:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thanks for another great post, Jane.  What would we do without you? &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;When it comes to pay equity, unmarried women are even further behind other women - their wages are 56 cents to a married man’s $1 (20 cents lower than the figures cited for in pay equity legislation).&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;A third of unmarried women move every election cycle, so registering and voting presents extra hurdles, not to mention coping with voter suppression and the fact that being on their own means their lives are stretched to the limit.  Any convenience factor in voting like vote-by-mail or same day voting helps to get them registered and voting.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And politicans who connect with their lives will help to turn around the cynicism.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for another great post, Jane.  What would we do without you? </p>
<p>When it comes to pay equity, unmarried women are even further behind other women &#8211; their wages are 56 cents to a married man’s $1 (20 cents lower than the figures cited for in pay equity legislation).</p>
<p>A third of unmarried women move every election cycle, so registering and voting presents extra hurdles, not to mention coping with voter suppression and the fact that being on their own means their lives are stretched to the limit.  Any convenience factor in voting like vote-by-mail or same day voting helps to get them registered and voting.</p>
<p>And politicans who connect with their lives will help to turn around the cynicism.</p>
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		<title>By: Alecia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alecia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2007 23:18:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Being unmarried and a Democrat, I would never vote for any politican who tailors his or her campaign message around the family unit.&lt;br /&gt;
Any politican who mentions the word “family” in their speeches tells me that they only want to be president for American families and not for Americans in general, so people without a family whether single males or single females are on their own.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Being unmarried and a Democrat, I would never vote for any politican who tailors his or her campaign message around the family unit.<br />
Any politican who mentions the word “family” in their speeches tells me that they only want to be president for American families and not for Americans in general, so people without a family whether single males or single females are on their own.</p>
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		<title>By: lauren</title>
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		<dc:creator>lauren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2007 22:45:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&gt;Darcy Burner, Donna Edwards, Angie Paccione and Victoria Wulsin - The four Women of the Apocalypse. As far as the GOP is concerned that is.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Women like Hillary Clinton are why no one cares if women get elected.   Women like Darcy, Donna, Angie, Victoria, AND Tammy Baldwin, Nancy Pelosi and Maxine Waters,are why unmarried women COULD become engaged motivated voters.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;That is, it has to be a woman who got there on her own, not cuz of who she married.  Maybe Hillary is really running to keep Bill interested.  What I know is millions of women will NEVER vote to bring him back into the White House–although we sophisticates don’t care what he does, THEY DO and will vote accordingly.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;My God, Hillary is selfish.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;Darcy Burner, Donna Edwards, Angie Paccione and Victoria Wulsin &#8211; The four Women of the Apocalypse. As far as the GOP is concerned that is.</p>
<p>Women like Hillary Clinton are why no one cares if women get elected.   Women like Darcy, Donna, Angie, Victoria, AND Tammy Baldwin, Nancy Pelosi and Maxine Waters,are why unmarried women COULD become engaged motivated voters.</p>
<p>That is, it has to be a woman who got there on her own, not cuz of who she married.  Maybe Hillary is really running to keep Bill interested.  What I know is millions of women will NEVER vote to bring him back into the White House–although we sophisticates don’t care what he does, THEY DO and will vote accordingly.</p>
<p>My God, Hillary is selfish.</p>
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		<title>By: Myrtle June</title>
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		<dc:creator>Myrtle June</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2007 22:09:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I was one of the “angry men” when Hil posted on here and didn’t address the war. I am a woman.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It was a cheap pandering event to a specific sector… women. I disagree with that tactic from a Presidential candidate. I’m a woman. An unmarried woman. An economically marginalized unmarried woman with no children. I don’t feel she serves me or even understands or thinks in anything other than sound bites she can trot out for the sole purpose of getting to be the first woman President. She is a Republican/neocon to me. I don’t think Hillary can do anything to change that in my view.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Now, Darcy Burner for Congress. Well, okay! This is an important issue, and I will be reading up on it and Darcy as well.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I saw last night on Facebook that Ann Kirkpatrick is exploring a run against Renzi. I already know I can support that!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was one of the “angry men” when Hil posted on here and didn’t address the war. I am a woman.</p>
<p>It was a cheap pandering event to a specific sector… women. I disagree with that tactic from a Presidential candidate. I’m a woman. An unmarried woman. An economically marginalized unmarried woman with no children. I don’t feel she serves me or even understands or thinks in anything other than sound bites she can trot out for the sole purpose of getting to be the first woman President. She is a Republican/neocon to me. I don’t think Hillary can do anything to change that in my view.  </p>
<p>Now, Darcy Burner for Congress. Well, okay! This is an important issue, and I will be reading up on it and Darcy as well.</p>
<p>I saw last night on Facebook that Ann Kirkpatrick is exploring a run against Renzi. I already know I can support that!</p>
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		<title>By: Adie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2007 21:13:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Maybe this is EPU’d, but I’m hoping some kind soul can help me answer a question for a friend.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I know someone, casual friend, who says she was divorced 6 yrs ago.  Her former husband kept the farm they’d shared, and she still uses that address for filing her income taxes.&lt;br /&gt;
She tells me, however, that she has had to move several times after the divorce, so has had no permanent address she can call her own for voting purposes, i.e., for longer than 6 mos.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;This is in OH, so with all the hanky panky about cage-ing votes and every other trick former SecyState Kenneth Blackwell had been pulling, I don’t know what she’s run up against - legal, illegal, or perhaps a faulty assumption on her part.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Does anyone in the FDL pack know about Ohio voting law restrictions?  IS it necessary to have a “permanent” address for at least 6 months in order to vote?  I know this lady has a steady job, because, at least weekly, we frequent the business where she works.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Here’s a steady, hard-working citizen who thinks she’s not allowed to vote.  Can this be?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I’d truly appreciate some advice from someone familiar with the OH state election law, so I could help her learn how to exercise her rights, without intruding too much.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Thanks, all.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe this is EPU’d, but I’m hoping some kind soul can help me answer a question for a friend.</p>
<p>I know someone, casual friend, who says she was divorced 6 yrs ago.  Her former husband kept the farm they’d shared, and she still uses that address for filing her income taxes.<br />
She tells me, however, that she has had to move several times after the divorce, so has had no permanent address she can call her own for voting purposes, i.e., for longer than 6 mos.</p>
<p>This is in OH, so with all the hanky panky about cage-ing votes and every other trick former SecyState Kenneth Blackwell had been pulling, I don’t know what she’s run up against &#8211; legal, illegal, or perhaps a faulty assumption on her part.</p>
<p>Does anyone in the FDL pack know about Ohio voting law restrictions?  IS it necessary to have a “permanent” address for at least 6 months in order to vote?  I know this lady has a steady job, because, at least weekly, we frequent the business where she works.</p>
<p>Here’s a steady, hard-working citizen who thinks she’s not allowed to vote.  Can this be?</p>
<p>I’d truly appreciate some advice from someone familiar with the OH state election law, so I could help her learn how to exercise her rights, without intruding too much.</p>
<p>Thanks, all.</p>
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		<title>By: NorskeFlamethrower</title>
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		<dc:creator>NorskeFlamethrower</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2007 20:57:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;1,562 DAYZ AND THE KILLIN GOEZ ON AND ON AND..&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;P.S. And I won’t vote for Mrs. Clinton under any circumstances and I will actively work to see that she is NOT elected president.  That goes for any Blue Dogs includin’ the one in my district, Ron Kind.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;KEEP THE FAITH AND BE VIGILANT!!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1,562 DAYZ AND THE KILLIN GOEZ ON AND ON AND..</p>
<p>P.S. And I won’t vote for Mrs. Clinton under any circumstances and I will actively work to see that she is NOT elected president.  That goes for any Blue Dogs includin’ the one in my district, Ron Kind.</p>
<p>KEEP THE FAITH AND BE VIGILANT!!</p>
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		<title>By: raven</title>
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		<dc:creator>raven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2007 20:57:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-788450&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;NorskeFlamethrower @ 70&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;1,562 DAYZ AND THE KILLIN’ GOEZ ON AND ON AND..&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Citizen Slothrop and the Firepup Patriots:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;“Characterizing that objection as ‘men who don’t care about women’ is absurd.”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Yes indeed, absurd and surprisin’ comin from Citizen Hamsher but I’m afraid that’s what we’re gunna be hearin’ from Mrs. Clinton and the Clintonistas as this thing drags on.  The tactic of tryin’ ta marginalize and intimidate progressive men who don’t support Mrs. Clinton will jest make it clearer and clearer to new women voters like my two college student daughters that Mrs. Clinton is NOT progressive and not workin’ in the interests of workin’ women or other living things.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;KEEP THE FAITH AND PASS THE AMMUNITION AND WATCH YER STEP, THERE’S A LOTTA SHIT COMIN’ DOWN!!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Whoa Nellie, there’s aa mighty wind a comin!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-788450"><em>NorskeFlamethrower @ 70</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>1,562 DAYZ AND THE KILLIN’ GOEZ ON AND ON AND..</p>
<p>Citizen Slothrop and the Firepup Patriots:</p>
<p>“Characterizing that objection as ‘men who don’t care about women’ is absurd.”</p>
<p>Yes indeed, absurd and surprisin’ comin from Citizen Hamsher but I’m afraid that’s what we’re gunna be hearin’ from Mrs. Clinton and the Clintonistas as this thing drags on.  The tactic of tryin’ ta marginalize and intimidate progressive men who don’t support Mrs. Clinton will jest make it clearer and clearer to new women voters like my two college student daughters that Mrs. Clinton is NOT progressive and not workin’ in the interests of workin’ women or other living things.</p>
<p>KEEP THE FAITH AND PASS THE AMMUNITION AND WATCH YER STEP, THERE’S A LOTTA SHIT COMIN’ DOWN!!</p>
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<p>Whoa Nellie, there’s aa mighty wind a comin!</p>
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		<title>By: John Konop</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Konop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2007 20:52:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;JPL&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Thank You!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<p>Thank You!</p>
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		<title>By: NorskeFlamethrower</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/06/29/darcy-burner-does-the-rubber-stamp-shuffle/#comment-788450</link>
		<dc:creator>NorskeFlamethrower</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2007 20:50:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;1,562 DAYZ AND THE KILLIN’ GOEZ ON AND ON AND..&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Citizen Slothrop and the Firepup Patriots:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;“Characterizing that objection as ‘men who don’t care about women’ is absurd.”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Yes indeed, absurd and surprisin’ comin from Citizen Hamsher but I’m afraid that’s what we’re gunna be hearin’ from Mrs. Clinton and the Clintonistas as this thing drags on.  The tactic of tryin’ ta marginalize and intimidate progressive men who don’t support Mrs. Clinton will jest make it clearer and clearer to new women voters like my two college student daughters that Mrs. Clinton is NOT progressive and not workin’ in the interests of workin’ women or other living things.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;KEEP THE FAITH AND PASS THE AMMUNITION AND WATCH YER STEP, THERE’S A LOTTA SHIT COMIN’ DOWN!!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1,562 DAYZ AND THE KILLIN’ GOEZ ON AND ON AND..</p>
<p>Citizen Slothrop and the Firepup Patriots:</p>
<p>“Characterizing that objection as ‘men who don’t care about women’ is absurd.”</p>
<p>Yes indeed, absurd and surprisin’ comin from Citizen Hamsher but I’m afraid that’s what we’re gunna be hearin’ from Mrs. Clinton and the Clintonistas as this thing drags on.  The tactic of tryin’ ta marginalize and intimidate progressive men who don’t support Mrs. Clinton will jest make it clearer and clearer to new women voters like my two college student daughters that Mrs. Clinton is NOT progressive and not workin’ in the interests of workin’ women or other living things.</p>
<p>KEEP THE FAITH AND PASS THE AMMUNITION AND WATCH YER STEP, THERE’S A LOTTA SHIT COMIN’ DOWN!!</p>
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