The Firepups have joined the social networking world with the launch of a Firedoglake group on Facebook – and many of us have jumped in, creating our own profiles and checking out all the bells and whistles. I thought it would be fun to chat about what we’ve found so far – and also let folks who are confused by this brave new world ask questions about how to join or what all these new toys are. Since almost all of us are new to this, I hope everyone will share their own tips and tricks so we can learn together as a community.
When we use new technology, we gain a new tool – one we can shape and use to do what we want. So let’s explore the possibilities. One Firepup – tw3k – is working on an FDL reader for Facebook, Pach used the group feature to remind all of us to make a donation before the end of the quarter to our great Blue America candidates,and yesterday when we had a server hiccup on FDL, many of us popped onto the Firedoglake group page to stay in touch until our tech wiz team sorted that out. I’ve started posting a few news clips each day on my page that I’d like to share with friends and I’m using my status message to encourage folks to call their reps about Habeas.
But we’re just beginning to explore. With all the extra FB applications and with the creativity of the FDL community, we have a lot to work with. And as we use Facebook more – and our connections there spread beyond our Firepup friends to the other networks we connect with – our activism can spread with us.
So I’m curious – which applicatons have you tried? What was fun or what’s a waste of space? How are you using your page and what would you like to do with this whole new set of tools?
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For folks who are interested in the wider Social Networking phenomena, check out Viewing American class divisions through Facebook and MySpace – (h/t Matt Stoller for the link.) It’s an interesting look at how the two big SNS are used by teens. The author – Danah Boyd – notes that this essay is not an academic paper but a blog post where she’s opening up a discussion. Boyd’s done some pretty amazing work and her blog Zephoria is a great place to learn more.
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ZEDAlicious?
Alas, secondalonia . . . congrats to The One!
There can be only one! *G*
I just got lucky.
Welcome aboard Busted and larue!
Siun -
I joined Face Book (Pete Downunder) but in all honesty I barely have time to read half the posts and comments here, much less surf around and fool with Face Book. Maybe it’s because I’m the wrong generation (I learned to program on CDC 6400 with ferrite core memory to give you an idea) or just not good at time management, but I just don’t have the energy to deal with Face Book in any meaningful way except to put faces with names (and even that’s hard because many folks used their real names not FDL handles. /Old man grump
Gwen Ifill totally missed that she’s the one guilty of the snark, and the complete question-dodging, rather than the question posers:
Petedownunder … I was feeling the same way until I discovered I could just add a little “share on facebook” icon on my browser bar – read something interesting, hit the icon and a snipped is posted on my FB page … no fuss, no muss. But I hear you on time management … aieee!
Thanks Siun . . . a small request . .
What and why is Facebook, for us boomer gen user’s SO far out of touch with the tech?
Ok, I’m as lazy as the next person, but I would’ve tried to at least tackle one of those. Gwen, maybe an energy bar would help.
I dunno about the Facebook thing yet,I haven’t had time to even look at it yet.
I have been crazy busy and it’s going to get worse. I am losing my buddy, he is moving on to a hopefully better job and I was already under staffed. I can’t wait.
(( waves to petedownunder, one of my latest Facebook friends ))
I’m enjoying Facebook because it opens up another dimension to the existing FDL community. It’s been fun to see who’s out there, and to get to know other pups a little better. And like Siun said, yesterday evening it was helpful to go to the Firedoglake group page to see what was up here at the Lake when it was hiccuping.
Siun, you’ve put up some pretty great posts from your FB page. Thanks!
larue … Facebook is a “social networking” site. Each member creates a page – but the site uses a very controlled template and walks you through setting it up. Then you have a page with your name and a pic (you can use a name like larue firedoglake for example if you want to hide a little and any pic or none will do …
then …see next comment
Well, I have a myspace, a dogster, and a facebook. We were having an offline discussion about facebook and it’s limitations but it seems like it’s taken off here so what the hey!
gw clusterfuck now believes that it will be thirty years before americans come to love and respect him for all he’s done….Now THAT’S funny!
on your page, you can collect links to friends, to groups (like the firedoglake group – try that link in the post and see if you can access the page) and to folks who went to your college or live in your town or whatever. You can send messages, post interesting stuff and add lists of favorite books or songs or …
Slowly, we’re creating a web of FDL folks who can connect beyond the posts here and coordinate activism (or just drinking parties!)
Siun @ 8
How do you add the “share on facebook” to your browser bar?
Bob in HI
rwcole @ 15
Heh! In thirty years I’ll be 77, and I expect to be as cranky about him then as I am today.
raven – I sorta like myspace because it would be fun to do a real page layout but I also don’t have time for that so facebook works nicely
the article by Danah Boyd might interest you!
raven @ 14
Oh yea, and a flickr and youtube!
My daughter does not want me on FB because it is for highschool and college kids only.
I reminded her it was our generation that invented these Computer gizmos.
Bush: “One Day The Good Lord Will Take Fidel Castro Away”
One day the good Lord will take GW Clusterfuck away.
#13/#14
So, basically, it’s just another tech form with graphics and vids for people to talk to each other with? A glorified email? Glorified blog space?
Only, you give up yer personal details for all the world to see?
I got blogs, I got email, if I choose, I can upload vids to youtube . . . I’m happy with less tech . . . . you kids go ahead and enjoy it all . .
I’ll stick to old school networking . . . where I can control the in and the out . . . *G*
Thanks both for the clarity though, ‘preciate that! I just wasn’t really sure WHAT it was all about . . .
I just like seeing what people look like or what things they like to put up about themselves even if they want to stay anonymous.
Starting in the next few weeks we’re going to have the ability to put a facebook icon next to your name when you comment so if people want to know more about you based on what how you decorate your facebook page they can. It will also allow people to be able to connect with other FDLers in their area if they want to, say, join together to go visit their Senator’s office per Chris Dodd’s request on his YouTube Spotlight yesterday (it had 79,000 views in its first day, which is pretty impressive). We hope to use these things to facilitate Roots actions so if you’re inclined to take part in these things, please sign up for a Facebook page and join the FDL Group. It’s free and it not only keeps us from having to maintain the server space we would otherwise have to in order to host that kind of information, it’s also open source and constantly updating. Very good for community action.
(((((Jane!!!)))))
Frank33 … I solved that by agreeing not to ask my daughter to be my friend on Facebook! I don’t want to see what she posts with her friends either! She’s more a MySpace person actually.
Bob in HI … look in the Posted Items section – there’s a tool there to add the “share on facebook” icon.
Larue … actually Facebook does allow you to set pretty tight security on what you share or not … and since you do not have to use your own name, you can be quite anonymous. There have been questions raised about FB and all the other sites related to privacy, etc but you don’t have to tell them anything you don’t want to share.
Siun @ 19
Cool, she sort of rules me out with “young” but eventually someone will start looking at people like me. I have been involved with online higher education for 8 years, In addtion to FDL I have participated heavily in “Chevy Talk” because my other hobby is my hot rod pickup truck. There is also a site for people that were in Korea at the same time as I was. I have reconnected with old friends, shared photo’s with folks and generally had a great time. I’m sure my wife wished I spent more time in the garden but the social aspect of the web has been very enriching for me.
Did anyone see Emanuel VP funding bill? 24 Dems sided on the side of Darth Vader!!
Siun @ 28
OK, I’m pretty good at this but I can’t find the setting that changes my name of FB?
I thought you guys would like this bit of info.
Code Pink member collapses in Lieberman’s office
He is such a chicken shit hawk.
Joe Klein’s conscience @ 30
What a day..
Joe Klein’s conscience @ 30
Link?
What Jane said!
I really think it’s up to us to make Facebook what we want it to be as a tool for organizing … so let’s get creative!
raven @31, click on “account” from your FB homepage, and scroll down — there’s a section where you can change your name.
Raven – to change your name, click here.
They do confirm your change with an email I think … give it a try!
Oh, and if anyone here wants to add me as a friend on FB just click my name here ;-)
Bustednuckles @ 1
Watch the bright shiny object and listen to the sound of my voice. I am your friend…
Damn, why is my wallet in my hand? Empty?
siun – you asked, jane asked, pach asked. and anything that easy you-all ask me to do… well, just call it done.
and i assure my fellow firepups, if you can comment here – you can join facebook without much trouble (you might want to consider keeping your real birthday and other personal info off your page).
since, siun, you asked… i’m not a big fan (to put it mildly) of FB as an organizing tool. kinda fun for being able to carry on a on-the-side conversation with another firepup though.
hopefully, none of us will get our pages taken down for using fake names and i will learn to love it as an organizing tool… do you know anyone else who’s trying to use it for organizing activists?
LoudounLib @ 36
I am, like, so dumb!
Selise … good questions. FB recently added the “Causes” section and they are trying to expand from college only – to high school – and now broader audiences, so I think it’s becoming a better tool than it was. With most policians planning ways to use it, it’s good that we get smart about it too.
OT: hey, does anyone have the link to AK’s blog? That was the last thing I read last night, and didn’t really absorb it… but it was a good read.
Siun,
“Social Networking” is thought to be the emerging “killer app” that will transform the way the world does business. (The type example of a “killer app” was the Lotus Spreadsheet. Before that, people like me used large tabs of ledger paper, a pencil,an eraser, and a calculator.)
Futurists are saying that social networking on the Internet will shape the way we experience reality in the years to come.
I like the FDL Facebook because it provides a means for me to contact other Firepups when they don’t seem to be in the Lake. I can send someone a private message, just like email. That was hard to do before we had facebook.
Also, we can get to know each other better in Facebook through the profiles, controlling how much we want to share.
The app right now on Facebook that is giving me the biggest headache is the photo manager. I normally use Firefox, but except for my Profile photo, I haven’t been able to upload photos using Firefox. For a brief time, I was able to upload photos using Internet Explorer, but I can’t even do that anymore. Facebook staff support has been trying to help, but they haven’t been very helpful yet.
Right now, most of my facebook friends are Firepups, but I also have one local music friend, and one local political friend who’s not a firepup, as well as a few friends from MyDD.
Bob in HI
raven – we’re all learning this together so thank heavens you asked!
Waxman has come to agreement with Fielding to avert subpoenas for now:
http://www.tpmmuckraker.com/ar…..9.php#more
randiego @ 43
Here Ya Go:
http://spookinthemachine.blogs…..to-it.html
Siun @ 44
I’m an adult educator, there are no dumb questions. . .people yes, questions no!
randiego @ 43
http://spookinthemachine.blogspot.com/
The two main points are that the WaPo articles steer criticism away from Bush and that certain very important topics are completely unaddressed (like Iraq, NSA wiretapping, Plamegate/Libby, etc.)
raven @ 41
no. but together we are much smarter. *g*
Closing in on Feeney:
http://www.tpmmuckraker.com/ar…..9.php#more
I tried the “I Like” application and I did like the fact that is showed me a concert date in Chicago for someone on my list. Plus I like being able to share sound clips of my favorite music … that was fun!
When I was looking for a graphic, I discovered that there’s a whole universe of bad youtubes about facebook … but I thought the boys above were cute … a little entertainment on a hard news day.
How is Facebook different than having a blog? I know you can create a link via your name here on FDL to a blog page or website,so I’m not sure how Facebook isn’t sort of redundant if you have a blog already.
I know,I’m such a fuddy duddy,lol. It just seems kinda redundant to my simple brain.
LS @ 45
This is interesting;
“The White House has consented to ‘transcribed interviews’ with Alan Swendimen, director of the Office of Administration; Mark Frownfelter, an ex-security officer; and former WHSO head Jeff Thompson. “The fact that we were able to reach an agreement on testimony and getting the interviews to take place will be helpful in moving the committee’s inquiry forward,” says an Oversight Committee staffer.”
I believe that means there will be a record to use! Something to use during criminal proceedings!!! 8-)
anangryoldbroad … you certainly can just share a link to your blog and be done with it. The social networking sites let’s everyone create new layers of connection … so, for example, I now have both friends from my non-FDL life hooked in to the same page as FDL friends … and that spreads my little “call for Habeas” messages further.
I don’t want to sound like an FB fanatic, but I do like the capabilities to easier pop things onto the page and share them … and it doesn’t require maintenance – you can update or not as you feel like it.
Well, I’ve been lurking since Fitzgerald became a household word, but post rarely because the people I consider firepups have major things to say on the subjects and I’m not in their league. Not sure I would belong in the FB group.
Sigh. This IS beginning to feel like high school.
I haven’t had the time yet to fully explore all the applications. I will say this, I’ve had some fun, and I am getting to know some members of the community a lot better.
I think it makes us stronger as community when we know more about each other. It’s also inspired me to try it using it at a local level for some organizing and out reach.
Ah ok,so it’s less like a blog and more like maybe an instant message thingy with a buddy list then…That makes more sense I think.
anangryoldbroad @ 54
Facebook was originally launched by students at Harvard to allow students to keep in touch with one another as well as do self-promotion. It caught on and has rapidly caught up with and in many cases outpaced other “YASNS” (Yet Another Social Network Software) programs.
Because it was designed as something more like a hybrid communication tool-cum-yearbook, it doesn’t serve the same purposes that a blog fulfills, although it’s possible to syndicate (cross-publish) one’s blog content to their own Facebook page.
Siun — thanks for pointing to danah boyd’s paper on the potential social schism between Facebook and MySpace. danah is one sharp cookie.
However I disagree with her premise that there is a socio-economic bifurcation between the two technologies.
1) Having used multiple YASNS, including Multiply, Orkut, MySpace and Facebook, I have to say that MySpace is the biggest f*cking pain in the ass to use. It’s doggy-slow, has a crap user interface, highly limited in terms of customization. The folks who use it most often are folks who generally avoid blogging because they see it as more demanding than MySpace. Facebook, by contrast, is stripped down just as danah says, but the folks who use it do not perceive it as a substitute for blogging, rather a tool for augmenting blogging (just as the FDL community is using it). They prefer the leaner and effective interface that users find at Facebook; is it possible that the real schism is that the folks using Facebook are generally more technologically adept and less tolerant of crap interfaces and applications? That’s a question danah didn’t explore.
2) Another rebuttal I offer to the question of schism: Multiply and Brazilians. I have virtually abandoned my Multiply page for nearly two years, and yet I still get messages every damned week from Brazilians. They LOVE Multiply. Why? Is the real issue the interface yet again, in relation to the culture and not economic strata? Yet another question danah didn’t explore.
I suppose I ought to blog this stuff…[sigh]
aquart @ 57
Don’t give up! I was, well, er, “socially challenged” in high school, to say the least. Maybe I still am, but I enjoy contacts with others on Facebook, as well as here!
Bob in HI
aquart @ 57
Oh don’t feel like that, I don’t post often but the site is invaluable for different points of view. Now facebook I’m not so sure but I have signed on and glanced around. FDL is the antithesis of highschool with young, old rich, poor yadda, yadda, yadda. I love to read Cassie’s post and have visited her site. By the way where is Miss Cassie.
aquart @ 57
I think of it more like sharing recipes, seeing who likes to read mysteries, who likes what music, etc.
It’s nice to get a message now and then. I’m not very good at networking, but I enjoy FB. It’s like strangers on a train, you get to talking and pretty soon you’re not strangers anymore.
aquart @ 57
Hey, guess what?
I’m a nobody. If I were in a league it wouldn’t be the majors, or triple A, Or double A, or whatever, I’d be in way down in the Z league if there was such a thing
Keep posting because your opinion is as important as anyone’s ;-)
Millineryman @ 58
Didn’t someone do a map for FDL’ers? I remember going over to it and sticking a pin in for my place…
Hey Siun (waving)
Don’t forget to add me to your Facebook friends.
Rayne … I think Danah’s article is pretty descriptive of my daughter’s age group and their preferences and class breakdown. Her circle of friends live on My Space, have learned a lot of tricks to highly customize their pages. They also are not interested in having blogs, they are interested in the continuous conversation they have through My Space and instant messaging… it serves their interests and habits quite well.
aquart @ 57
Oh, no, don’t go there. I was a geeky dork in high school and now I’m a swan. (sha, right…)
Facebook is about community and communication. If you’re addicted to FDL like many of us are, a server burp is like losing your fix; now we have a much better tool for letting everybody know what happened. And that’s for starters.
On the day of the Libby verdict, I was texting several Firepups, chatting in Gabbly, on the cellphone with Pat_AlexVA (where are you, btw?), and generally going crazy. With Facebook I could have sent them all a note at the same time to update. Much easier.
You want a slice of that too, don’t you? ;-)
OT But celebration is in order.. I live in Roswell, GA and my little area is receiving rain. If Raven is around he’s jealous over there in Athens…
OT…Hardball should be renamed “SCREBALLS”…they have that drunk loon on there Hitchens debating Sharpton…..Boy…tweety is “gittin desprit”
The only thing about Facebook is that for me, it’s hard to navigate around.
I can do it now, but it’s not intuitive.
Of course, I was on the Big Orange blog for a very long time, thinking, Why does it say “Margot’s Page”? I’m looking at it, it’s on my computer, of course it’s my page. I need a map or something. “Click HERE to see comments.” Gah.
Siun @ 67
Exactly. There’s more going on than danah described. Your daughter and friends are using what they perceive to be a hybrid of a blog and a communication tool, at the expense of blogging. That suggests a generational shift in demands on technology, not necessarily a economic/cultural schism.
I did like what happened yesterday … one of the mods sent me a text msg to say we were having server problems – within seconds, I could pop a message up on the FDL page so folks knew it wasn’t just them, etc … very handy!
Rayne @ 60 made some good points but I’ll add that Facebook, to my knowledge at least, doesn’t have something equivalent to the band sites that MySpace supports. If you are in a band or are a fan or a particular band/artist (or are otherwise interested in things like gig schedules), MySpace seems like a useful tool despite all the trashiness you get from some “friend” wannabes.
JPL @ 69
Indeed, it’s floodin down in Texas, and over here we’s dry as UGA’s bone!
We’re finally getting rain to break an oppressive heat wave.
Two things: I treasure my privacy. Maybe it’s because I started life as the oldest kid in a minister’s family. Everybody was always looking.
The other is a seminar put on at the middle school about the dangers of the internet for students. This woman scared me.
However, my son is on facebook regularly and is completely comfortable.
I am dragging my feet, but I have come to love FDL. What a conflict!
OT Josh at Talking Points is saying that Bush today in a speech wants Iraq to be more like Israel.. That will go over well with the Iraq people.
i joined facebook, and it entered my birthdate automatically, which i didn’t like, and my email, which i had to think about……..then when i tried to find out how to edit, it was a dialup nightmare going through the process to edit………..really…….
so, i emailed them to help me…….and i was nailed that i didn’t use my ‘real name’ so i was kicked off….permanently until i use my real name….many have told me ways to get around that, get a new email through yahoo, gmail, etc., use my gma’s maiden name as a last name, etc., but it peeves me off that i couldn’t just join as dmac……..i don’t want people from high school finding me, etc., geez i’m using etc, a lot……..but, my point is, if people want to find me from high school, they can call my parents…..and i don’t want to use my real name, and don’t want to lie………so i’m stuck on the facebook thing.
and part of me hates the ‘how many friends do you have’ thing……..pressure……….
but i do like the later planned firedog link as you post thing that links to your facebook page so you ‘know’ who you’re posting to…..that part makes me want to join………
Bob Schacht @ 44
Having worked in the industry intersection between futurists and software developers, I think that the concept of “YASNS as killer app” is already passe, in regards to the internet.
There are 1.25 to 1.5 cellphone users to every 1.0 personal computer, and the number of cellphone users expands every day. As Jonathan Schwarz, CEO of Sun noted this past year, there are now more people experiencing the internet via cellphone than computer. The cellphone has always been a social device; it is finally fully merged with computing to become the real killer app, a la Blackberry, Treo and now iPhone.
Watch for a major jump of all internet content to accommodate handheld devices; the platform war isn’t PC v. Mac or Windows v. Linux; it’s now between handheld devices as internet access/social network tools.
Thanks to FDL, this ‘ol pup joined Facebook. My 20-yr-old “baby” told me she wouldn’t have made it thru her somewhat lonely first year of college if not for Facebook. After she finished laughing and wiping the tears from her face, she agree to be my friend on facebook, and advised me to “friend” my 20-yr-old niece. I did, FB is great. Niece & I don’t talk on phone much due to my weird work schedule & time zone diffs so FB is also a great way to stay in touch with family.
That video was hilarious.
If anyone wants to friend me, here’s my page!
http://umassd.facebook.com/profile.php?id=41502033
Won’t you be my friend?
Lieberman says that the surge is workin- has the enemy on the run- Whoopee- that’s good news eh? Are they runnin AFTER us?
Bob … I couldn’t upload photos until I clicked on the little line below the upload box that reads …”Trouble uploading photos? Try our simple upload thinger.” which is under the upload box … in Firefox, that hummed along.
Lieberman says that the enemy is on the run- wonder who he thinks the enemy IS? Shia militias- or Sunni militias? Maybe they BOTH are the enemy…on the other hand- maybe he meant “enema”.
Ryan and all … my FB page is http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=541856971
Off topic, but is anyone else really depressed that – after half a century – Brown v. the Board of Education was essentially stripped today? Or, at least they made a big bite out of it?
I wonder how far this Supreme Court is from the days when they stripped rights to create minimum wages and childhood labor laws. I’m not seeing huge differences.
I actually think, once we elect a Democrat in the Oval Office in ‘08, he or she should instantly nominate at least two people to the Supreme Court… regardless of whether or not there’s any extra room. If we’re stuck with Alito and Roberts for decades, we may as well pack the court a bit to drown their voices out.
rwcole – I’ve just been chatting with someone in Iraq today … the surge is only working if you count injured children as success … the info and pics from this morning’s bus bombing are horrific.
Ryan Adams @ 85
Crushing blow to desegration of schools. Since property taxes fund most schools it will just lead to legalized segragation. The other blow was to a 1911 antitrust law on price fixing..
brownandserve @ 74
I hear you, but I think the band tools are a replacement for the tools that blogs ordinarily offer. We’re also arguing the merits of technology that’s a mere 3 years old; iLike, for example, has changed dramatically in the last month since I registered in Facebook when Kobe Rose asked for friends…
Now here’s the kicker: MySpace is owned by Rupert Murdoch.
Um. Yah.
Boston1775 @ 76
Only disclose what you have to in order to join. There are ways around everything. So far only a handful of Facebook folks really know who I am behind the cloak. ;-)
And don’t worry about the internet security person — she was supposed to scare the bejabbers out of people that never think about security on the internet. If you are prudent, you have no problems, speaking from experience. Take the plunge.
dmac @ 78
There’s no pressure, really. None at all. If anything, you may find you get more people asking to be your friend than you ever expected, which is the flipside of this technology. Like those boys in the video…who are you? and you want to be my friend??
Well, I think the other factor you should keep in mind is that it makes it so much easier for Jane, Christy, Pach et al to get in touch with you about community events and calls to action. Maintaining an accurate email distribution list is a nightmare if you have a big community; this way, everybody is responsible for their own contact info through Facebook. MUCH better for FDL — they can focus on content and on going after the wingnuts holding our government hostage, instead of chasing emails.
Rayne @ 79
Thanks for the update, Rayne. Did you notice that Facebook has a “Mobile” feature? It lets me know when I get a message or an invitation on Facebook. However, I’ve had some problems using it. For example, when a text message is too long, my mobile says “(’n’ for next)” I would press ‘n’ and nothing happened. I finally figured out that you had to press ‘n’ and send, and then I’d get a few seconds later the next 4 lines of the text message. That’s not a killer app.
But I agree that apps for handhelds are absolutely the wave of the future. I got a smartphone to replace my old Palm Pilot PDA, and I still can only figure out about 5% of what that thing can do. For example, reading FDL on my handheld is a chore. It helped when Jane & Co. moved the left sidebar over to the right, but the problem is that you can only see so much on the tiny screen of a handheld.
Does that mean that compressed speech is also the wave of the future?
C U L8er,
Bob in HI
plus, i like being able to find progressive political links on facebook, for example, connecting to Hilda Solis thru facebook.
i’m up for friendship too: NewDealFarmGrrrlll
Siun @ 83
Thanks, but I did that already.
Maybe that’s when my troubles began. . .
or not.
Bob in HI
I love to see the FDL community exploring and leveraging Facebook.
Anyone here use Twitter? It’s like a disembodied Facebook status stream. (Of course, they now have a FB app, so you can add Twitter to your Facebook page).
Many use it for the simple constant connection with friends, but it can also be used as a good way to keep in quick mobile contact with people. I am twitter.com/mgris
Ryan Adams @ 86
Scotusblog is all over it
and Crooksandliars
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And about Facebook using real names — they should really rethink that because there might be women out there who need to remain anonymous because of ex-husbands, stalkers, whatever — there should be an exemption for them and anyone else who need to remain anonymous
Just my coupl’a cents
All right, off to go watch the NBA draft
Peterr is upstairs…
yeah, as always, i see what you’re sayin’ rayne, but i got kicked in the teeth by facebook, and my side that likes honesty got challenged by their terms………..so…..therein lies the challenge.
but the idea as a whole, i see the possibilities, and it makes me want to join as dayna [last name removed by Mod], there, i said it.
now maybe i can announce that on facebook, but i hate the thought of it. makes me cringe.
Alright, I have no idea of what I am doing yet, but I joined.
Dayna … welcome!
I have to say, I’ve been very active online with my own name or variations thereof since about ‘87 and it’s really ok.
Yay BustedKnuckles! and all the new FDL FB friends!
Jane Hamsher @ 24
Well, ma’am, thanks for all the work you put into all this, and best to you and your health BTW . . . and thanks so much for FDL . . . I enjoy reading and participating in here. The more I learn about the ‘players’ in blogoshpere, the more informed I become, and FDL is a great part in that process . .
But most impt., again, best to you and your health, that’s YOUR job one, in order for us to continue to enjoy and appreciate it all! (bows)
Busted…how can we find you?
Gimme a sec.
rwcole @ 84
OK, I’ve lost it…I watched the darth story last night on Newshour and started pointing at everything with a pulse, he’s alQaeda, you’re al AlQaeda, she’s al Qaeda, … Hubby told me to knock it off, I told him to go F himself…OMG I’m channeling Cheney…help…me.
LMAO, I don’t know if this is my homepage or not, try it.
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=66723074
Oh, I gave out my Twitter profile address, but if you want to find me on FB, I’m here: http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=500050168
Now I’m off to see what Bustednuckles looks like…
Busted, that didn’t work for me (took me to my own page!) but if you want to click on my name here, you can add me.
Siun, thanks for the FB FDL Reader app.
I do have a question about the FDL feed.
I am using the main feed from feedburner. Is there a setting in either wordpress or feedburner to NOT truncated the article? It would give me more content to work with and eventually I’m going to setup the app for people to post individual articles from the feed to thier mini feed or news feed. Maybe additionally to NewsCloud which trends progressive and has a FB NewsCloud app.
707 @ the vid
I got UPD’d, heh
Not so fast.
I promised Valley Girl a loooong time ago my picture.
I don’t have a digital of me yet, soon I will keep that promise and THEN… You can all have a good spew!
LS @ 46
It really, really appears that the surrender monkey dem’s and even the oversight committee’s are now stalling, stalling for ‘08, wherever they think they can . . . .
I’m greatly saddened by this . . . I hope it’s just a matter of playing it all out for a greater gain, but, they all get funded for elections by the same sources, so . . . .
There’s just no sustained hardball drive to hang these thugs, and determne WHO their source supporters are . . . even though most of the informed general public already know it!!!
They’re all crooks . . . . sad, but, ‘08 may be a case of throwing out many of the dems who ‘SEEMED’ progressive to us only a short while ago.
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=667230745
Try this one.
CTuttle @ . . . .
I believe that means there will be a record to use! Something to use during criminal proceedings!!! 8-)
I read it as a means to work behind the scenes, and cover up anything they want. Having a record, and acting on it, and making it all public are VERY different isuues.
I take NO delight in agreement tween the WH and the Oversighters on this one . . . I want full speed ahead, and FULL DISCLOSURE, with hearings televised for the general public to witness and ‘judge’ per se . . . anytime that’s not done, I get real suspicious and KNOW they are covering up something they don’t want the general public to know . . . . evil is as evil does, don’t matter WHICH side of the aisle it lives on.
OK Loudounlib I added you.
I ain’t stupid but new stuff always takes some playing around with for me.
Busted ;-) We’re all learning together!
tw3k, there should be a setting in WordPress
tw3k – I don’t know but I’ll ask our team.
Siun @ 115
Cool, thanks.
Bob Schacht @ 90
I don’t think compressed speech is the ticket, more likely to see some dramatic changes in display technology in the short term. iPhone is likely to drive this.
dmac @ 96
I believe the Terms of Service at Facebook required one to use a real name or a name that was based upon your real name. I am, for example…it’s a nickname under which I write pseudononymously for many reasons, including my family’s security.
Why not use a variant — Dayna Mac, for example. People won’t “find” you under that name, but it meets the Terms of Service.
There is hopefully going to be more on this later?
Just playing around with it for now.
Have any of you seen this?
http://media.abum.com/animation/56810.swf
Frank33 @ 21
I have one FB for my friends at school and another one for my online friends. My aunt can’t see my school friend one.
Rayne @ 60
Rayne, that was one HUGE educational doc dump you posted and THIS Boomer Larue thanks you!!
Only one thought-musicians, especially regional and indie musicians, are all OVER myspace . . . . I’ve never even HEARD of some of the programs you posted about!!! I’m SO not geeky attractive . . . but my honey don’t care! *G* And what SHE thinks is really all I care about, anymore . . . ;-)
Larue –
It’s just like MySpace but much less robust. FaceBook has been around for awhile but only available to schools or school affiliated groups. They recently opened it up to anyone.
Unlike MySpace, you have to join FaceBook to view anyone or any group. We’re more familiar with MySpace because of the music site and all the “promotion” done on there.
For me, its just one more thing I don’t have time to fancy up or visit all that often. Oh well.
Enjoy! :-)
I joined FB because we were invited to do that, and spent too much time just getting set up. Technically clueless here. And too busy elsewhere to participate in any significant way.
But my biggest problem is–What is this “friend” thing? I got an email from an entirely strange name inviting me to be a friend. But I have to formally accept, and I’m wary of signing onto anything.
Is there a code we can use to identify FDLer invitations? I don’t want to reject any Firepup, but neither do I want to tell non-FDLers that I’ll be their friend.
CatelynK — I’ve run into that, too, where folks that I know by their FDL nom de plume ping me and ask to be my friend but I can’t recognize them by their “real” name. Don’t be afraid to ask; just go ahead and ask them what their FDL log in name is since you aren’t familiar with their real name.
There are a few folks who’ve posted their FDL log in name on their Facebook profile, and others who actually use a variant of their real name as their log in. But I can see where you’d be confused — especially if you end up with two guys with the same first name asking you to be their friend at the same time (been there, done that!).
Well I guess now would be a good time to post my FB page so others can see I’m mostly harmless http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=528726003
So what happens when you click on the “Add as friend” link? I’m going to try it…..
Here’s mine; its a brave new world :D (Dang, this makes me feel old!)
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=553138464
Hi Rayne, I was downstairs in the facebook page so thought I’d come up and look for you… BTW – we’ve been busy here. Peanut #2 was born and is now 2 months old. So we’ve been… occupied. So I’ve downgraded to lurker for awhile. Thanks for the shout out, and I’m around and usually behind a few posts. :-)