David Addington, Cheney’s former Counsel and current Chief of Staff, is increasingly mired under the dark cloud that hangs over the Vice President. Addington’s name appears on the subpoena sent yesterday to the Office of the Vice President. And he’s the guy tasked with dreaming up increasingly dubious explanations for why Cheney doesn’t have to comply with the regulations mere mortals must obey.
The WaPo’s series on Cheney provided a great deal of new detail of Addington’s methods–his badgering of bureaucratic opponents, his ghost-writing of memos and orders. But I’d like to consider one other aspect of his personality–as a witness–because it may be relevant again soon. Of all the informative or amusing or unbelievable witnesses that appeared at Scooter Libby’s trial, IMO Addington was by far the most fascinating.
I knew, before the trial, that Addington’s testimony could be devastating for Libby. As I showed, you needed no more than Addington’s testimony and Libby’s own notes to prove that Libby was lying when he claimed to be surprised, on July 10, that Joe Wilson had a wife. So I expected Addington to be hostile, to shade his answers and offer no more than necessary; this was how John Hannah (Libby’s other replacement) acted, for example. But that’s not what Addington did.
It was as if Fitzgerald would start each question with a small nudge and Addington would set off, babbling and mumbling and wandering and offering more than Fitzgerald had requested. Here is just part of Addington’s response to Fitzgerald’s question about whether Addington remembered Scottie McClellan exonerating Rove publicly (I’m transcribing the quote from this handy book by guys named Waas and Lomonaco).
Yes. And essentially–the reason this sticks in my mind is I had a conversation not too many days later with Dan Bartlett, who was then the assistant to the President for communications. And by this point, something had been said–I frankly don’t remember what–again, by the press office, and it included Mr. Libby this time. And I made the comment to Mr. Bartlett, you know, I don’t know why you are making these statements about, you know, this case–and I will explain why in a second.
But his reaction was, “Well, your boss is the one that wanted us to do it.” And then I shut up.
But my reaction to that was, you know, I’m in my 20th year in government, and there are three things press offices generally shouldn’t do in the government. One is don’t talk about intelligence sources and methods because if you say no, no, no, no, no, denying, you set up a pattern that if somebody ever picks up a particular intelligence source and says, “Is that the intelligence source?”–and you say, “Well, I can’t confirm or deny it,” you’ve said no. So you basically just can’t talk about intelligence sources and methods because your patterns of answers are going to reveal things.
[snip]
And the third thing you don’t talk about is what’s going on in a criminal investigation because, frankly, you don’t know. And to go out and say somebody did or didn’t do something–you have no way of knowing that. You haven’t conducted any investigation. That’s what the government gets to do.
…all delivered in this mumbling wandering quiet voice. In response to a very specific question (did Scottie McClellan publicly exonerate Rove), Addington offered up the following information:
- McClellan later exonerated Libby, too
- McClellan did so at the behest of Dick Cheney
- Addington thought such statements were wrong–one of the worst things a press office could do
- The government “gets to” investigate potential criminal violations committed by top members of the Administration
- And oh, by the way, you should also never ever discuss sources and methods publicly because the last thing you’d want to do is reveal that kind of highly classified intelligence information–you know, kind of like an Agent’s identity?
And when Fitzgerald wanted to redirect this verbal diarrhea of damning testimony, it was as if he only needed to nudge Addington gently, after which Addington would babble off in that new direction until Fitzgerald stopped him. He seemed to have neither a filter nor embarrassment about what the White House had done. And in addition to framing White House activities from Fall 2003 in even more damning light than Fitzgerald could have done by himself, Addington also offered up that OVP was wildly stamping all the evidence turned over to investigators with their “Treated as Top Secret/SCI” stamp. In short, Addington, not Fitzgerald, made the argument that the Administration obstructed the investigation into the leak of Plame’s identity.
One more thing. Addington was testifying here about events that occurred when he was Vice President’s Counsel. Thanks to the indictment of Libby, he is now Cheney’s Chief of Staff, which means he’s surely compartmented into things that he wasn’t before, when Libby was Chief of Staff. Which could make him a very interesting witness indeed.
Now, given what we’ve seen of Congressional questioning so far this term, I’m painfully aware that we don’t have many Patrick Fitzgeralds sitting around Congress, with the ability to make the most of a witness like this. I’m going to start lobbying now to make sure that Chuck Schumer and Sheldon Whitehouse are the only ones who get to question Addington, in the event we get him in a witness chair.
But when that day comes, it may be a very interesting day indeed.
Photo credit: WaPo’s photo series accompanying the Cheney series; the photo has been cropped.
Related posts:
- Cheney’s Lawyer Already Leaked the Content of Cheney’s “Privileged” Interview
- Cheney Refused to Release the Journalists
- Cheney’s Betrayal Made an IIPA Charge for Libby Possible
- Isikoff Doubles Down on His Anonymous Leak from Cheney’s Lawyer
- Dick Cheney, Scooter Libby, and the “Unremarkable” Meat Grinder





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Marcy!
Dos!
Catorce!
Hey, where is everybody? Okay, I’ll go read the post now.
“Cheney and Addington will go down in history as the most aggressive and successful advocates of executive powers in this nation’s history. As Fritz Schwarz and I have charted, “Cheney and Addington were in large part responsible for the 1987 Congressional Minority Report out of the Iran-contra affair, which first asserted that the White House could wield “monarchical notions of prerogatives.” They grounded their vision of executive power on the prerogatives exercised by the British kings who were overthrown by the American Revolution.”
Marcy,
I wouldn’t normally think along these lines, but the situation is so far from normal these days, that here is my thought. Congress offers rewards, NICE rewards to whistleblowers that help congress get to these issues.
Perhaps Fitzgerald could be persuaded to run for Senator?
Fozzetti @ 7
We need him more urgently in the House. Though if he ran he’d have to finally commit to being a member of one or another party.
Fitz would probably run as a gooper.
No, I want to see Fitzgerald as the next Attorney General (2009), or perhaps the next Supreme Court nominee.
Addington strikes me as someone who is quite willing to bend the law into a pretzel, but he won’t flat-out break it, nor will he protect anyone who does. His testimony in the Libby trial was utterly damning, and it’s worth noting that he offered a lot of information that he didn’t have to. (Such as Libby’s “lower your voice” hand signals, which made Libby look guilty as hell. That was something that he could have just kept to himself. Instead, he skewered Libby with it.) I wonder if maybe he can’t stop talking once he starts, which is why he so studiously avoids the press. If that’s the case, there’s no way in hell they can let him testify.
Fozzetti @ 7
Why would he want to waste his potential? I’m sorry to disagree, but, I’m just not understanding the depth of your comment.
Frank Probst @ 11
I’ve wondered whether he has Aspergers. It would fit with what everyone says about his crazy intelligence. But I don’t know enough about Aspergers to diagnose. Does anyone have Bill Frist’s number handy?
emptywheel @ 13
Just send Frist a pic or a video. That’s enough for his very scientific diagnosis.
Addington doesn’t seem to take PERSONAL risks- but he’s got a client whose attitude is “If you can come up with ANY legal argument as to why I can do this- I’ll DO it- and let em try to convict me of something- cause I don’t think they’ve got the balls ta do it”
Did you see John Kerry’s letters exchange with him? Kerry just ripped into him like a chainsaw into Jell-O.
rwcole @ 15
I wonder how Scooter LIbby feels about that legal strategy.
demi @ 12
I think the idea is that he’d be a lot better at questioning witnesses who come before the Senate than the current batch of Senators.
Fitzy seems to be a competent prosecutor- he’s likely a gooper- came in under a gooper regime didn’t he? I have no reason to think that he’d make a good candidate for ANYTHING.
Frank
:
Scoots says “the jury’s still out on that one”.
rwcole @ 19
I think he makes a damn fine AUSA.
He sounds like a dumb witness, not even a bad lawyer, just stupid. You don’t babble on the stand. you answer the question, succinctly, then STFU.
rwcole @ 20
The appeals court, maybe. The jury didn’t buy it.
Frank: The jury’s still out on how Scoots FEELS about the whole thing- nothin much has happened that a nice fat pardon couldn’t make better.
I agree with Marcy that Whitehouse and Schmumer are very skilled at examining witnesses. Some others on the SJC and especially the HJC-not so much.
Are the egos of the members such that they wouldn’t consider delegating the task of examining witnesses to counsel? Remember Sam Dash, Richrd Ben-Veniste and others from past hearings.
> No, I want to see Fitzgerald as the next
> Attorney General (2009), or perhaps the next
> Supreme Court nominee.
Given Fitzgerald’s position on the unPatriot Act, and his general bent toward authoritarianism, I would have to say that would be very dangerous. Maybe Director of the FBI would be OK if he were under the supervision of an Attorney General who was strong and forceful on civil liberties, but even that would be a risk because FBI is a 10-year appointment and there would be too much risk of another Gonzales turning him into a weapon.
Cranky
Frank Probst @ 21
AUSA or USA?
Frank Probst @ 11
Addington skewers Libby. Libby goes to the clinker. Addington gets Libby’s job . . . . . why would he want to do that?
draw your own conclusions.
Deb
And of course Addington feels JUST TERRIBLE about it.
emptywheel @ 13
Don’t have Bill’s number, and glad I don’t, but.. acually, he might. Like any other inherited syndrome there is always the aspect of how environment effects. I know…my kid is one of those Asperger’s Kids. I’ve seen first hand how the nature vs. nurture thing plays out…and how those who are chronically “challenged” are the ones to deal with these kids. Focus, Focus, Focus.
RevDeb @ 27
Having to do Cheney’s bidding strikes me as big fat booby prize.
Remember, long before he was busted, Libby has been reported as saying, I think I’ll continue to work with Cheney until I get indicted.
Can Addington be too far behind Libby?
chinois @ 18
Twain @ 14
Yeah, Frist as a cardiologist would have no problem with making a diagnosis a neurologist should make. It didn’t stop him in the
schiavo case.
He’s the kind of guy Edwards and other plaintiff’s attorneys are needed for, to keep them from doing damage or to pay once the damage is done.
Friggin’ shill.
rwcole @ 15
He bases his service on the ‘it’s easier to ask forgiveness than permission’ theory, as so many do.
This Punk is why we are in the mess we are. There are many reason’s why this baby-boomer wanna-be could be held culpable for many of the scandals circling the heads residing in the White House.
He has enabled them to move blindingly forward with the PNAC agenda in the face of overwhelming public outcry.
I blame Addington’s parents really… They should have taught him the lesson’s of the sixties… even though he was too young to experience them…
Like I said.. He’s a punk.. He probably got slapped around in school and is now wielding his ill-gotten “power” to help his ilk like Bush and Cheney re-shape this once great nation into the kind of totalitarian society where the weakest are in power.. (not unlike Hitler and Dr. Evil)..
I can’t wait till he suffers like the rest of this corrupt regime.. as soon as the Democrats grow a sack and start treating the Repugs like the criminals they are..
Cranky Observer @ 25
I’m mostly concerned with his (or any AG’s) stance on The Rule of Law. Fitz would make a great AG. I just can’t see him doing anyone’s bidding as Abu has done over and over again. When it came to crossing anything resembling a blurry legal line Fitz would have none of it.
He seems to be modeling himself on Bork, another loon, with those whiskers.
KDH–Yep he’s the embodiment of that mentality- as well as the one that goes- “First ask what the likely penalty is- if it’s a slap on the wrist- GO FOR IT.”
And lest we forget, Mr. Addington is a war criminal (alleged), as well.
Mod note: link should work now.
I blame Addington’s GRANDPARENTS—-and Clinton of course.
demi @ 32
Agree completely. It takes a particular set of skills and temperament to be as effective a prosecutor as he is. If that’s what makes him happy and the highers-up don’t find a way to boot him (the larger concern IMHO), why not keep doing what he’s doing?
After reading Broder’s article today in the WAPO, I sent him this missive
Dave,
Where the heck have you been for the last six years?
If you read the blogs, you would have known that Stonewall Cheney was alive and well,
and running amok.
I’ll never forgive you for dissing the integrity of Patrick Fitzgerald…
He told us that there is a “cloud on the Veep’s office…”
The man should be a candidate for Profiles in Courage…
I’m hugely disappointed in your reporting.
mc
Found link to be unproductive.
So it seems, the BIG question of the day is: will the Dems have the cajones to issue the Contempt of Congress charges and move forward quickly on this? Based on Conyers statement I am hopeful. It’s really Leahy to whom I am basing my hope however. Pat knows something, hopefully it’s a big something.
(as in “Patient has unproductive cough”)
I’m NOT down-hearted…but I’m getting there.”
Addington criminal complaint (via wiki, scroll down):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Addington
rat bastahd @ 43
Alfred Kilgarries had a late night comment a couple of weeks ago intimating that Pat had lots of a big something and a game plan.
I sure hope that AK is right.
Addington is the guy who thougth up Cheney’s I’m not part of the Executive branch excuse, uhm did he get his law liscense out of a box of cracker jack or what? Stupid or desperate just how afraid is Darth? What are the real stakes here that scared Cheney so much he thought this Not part of the Executive branch story was a good idea? How desperate do you have to be to put out an excuse that barely lasts a week?
ohhhh, ohhhh Scooter has a BOP number now. hehehehe
See TPMMuckraker dot com
things come undone @ 49
The excuse has been around for quite some time… And I was just following orders comes to mind.
kdh22 @ 50
My mistake: See ThinkProgress dot org
This guy needs to be in front of a jury just like Scooter.
He is possibly the worst of the worst when it comes to pulling notions of how our system of government should work out of his ass.
kdh22 @ 50
I LEWIS LIBBY – 28301-016
Addington walked out of an episode of the “Twilight Zone” and into our lives. Creepy ………
> I’m mostly concerned with his (or any AG’s)
> stance on The Rule of Law. Fitz would make a
> great AG.
The unPatriot Act, the Military Commissions Act, and similar Cheney/Gonzales era gems ARE the law. And I don’t think they will be repealed even if the Democrats do take 67 Senate seats in 2008.
Cranky
Marcy — I am so with you on the limited questioning. How can I help? Let’s talk about that sometime this week because you are absolutely right that Addington could be a goldmine in the right hands.
Frank Probst @ 11
I’m not so sure about the “bend but don’t break” part.
Most of the crap that’s come out of his “shop”
is currently being shot down in flames upon review and, c’mon can you really have any scruples working that closely with Darth?
Maybe the Libby testimony came from the opportunity to get Libby’s job for himself.
Maureen Dowd is showing herself to be funnier than heck in mocking Bush and Cheney. She uses the letter to Bush from the Presidential Scholars opposing torture. “The vice president unleashed a pack of large dogs on the kids, running them off the White House lawn, before he shut down the Presidential Scholars program and abolished high schools.” Funny stuff.
After Sen. Dick Lugar criticized Iraq policy, Dowd writes, Dick Cheney, “the president of the Senate, immediately expelled Lugar and appointed himself the new senator from Indiana.” Ding, ding!
The sassy satirist continues, “Once Rummy was pushed out, Vice mentally absorbed the role of defense secretary into his own portfolio.”
Even funnier, she turns on the snark about Addington, “The Black Adder, David Addington, the vice president’s enforcer of all things evil,”
But Maureen does get serious and asks the important question, what could Cheney be hiding? (a) Cooked intelligence on invading Iraq? (b) Ill-gotten profits for Halliburton? (c) More chicanery about Scooter Libby? (d) Gitmo and Abu Ghraib torture memos?” (***Answers below.)
Maureen does not answer these questions. But she is a credit to her profession, political humorist.
*** Answers: (a) Yes (b) Yes (c) Yes (d) Yes
Christy Hardin Smith @ 56
Hmmm. Sounds like conspiracy to deliver a valuable public service.
Addington knows that most of shit will never be tested in a court of law. It’s all bald faced CLAIM of legality- one can be pretty free spirited with an argument that will never be adjudicated.
Christy Hardin Smith @ 56
The same can be said of the House even more emphatically.
Last go around the gems came out from Bobby Scott and previously Paul Hodes. Rather than everyone having their 5 minutes in the spotlight it’s time for the dems to put their eyes on the prize, the prize being saving the country rather than worrying about whether or not 5 minutes on CSpan is going to get them reelected.
STTP (#58):
i don’t know, from scruples? self interest maybe …………
Frank33 @ 59
Yes! What could Cheney be hidding that he is so deperate to protect that he would risk such a lame excuse!
FRank33 (#59):
that’s a novel view in these parts ……..
Clusterfuck’s immigration bill buried by his own party- somewhere from the oval office is heard a loud quacking sound- followed by the limping rythm of webbed feet.
“quack-thump-quack-thump-quack-thump”=—Oops- he’s COMING!!!
Douglas Feith has some competition for the Tommy Franks Award.
Dick Cheney’s Sock Puppet, George W. tells the Iraqis that they should be just like….Israel.
-GSD
things come undone @ 49
He received his law degree from Duke.
MSNBC has a photo of a very SAD President Clusterfuck as he takes his punishment like a—well not a man—like a spoiled brat?
OT, but has anyone heard from Jane today? Hope today went as well as could be expected. Stay strong and come back to us soon!
xoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxo
Stephen Parrish, CPA @ 69
That explains it all. That’s where Nixon got his.
It’s hard to get senators or representatives to give up their turn at the microphone, but not impossible. Leahy’s incredible “Here, take my time, Sen Whitehouse” moment was the exception, not the rule. More common is the “if s/he gets to ask questions, then I want to also.”
One possible method that committee members might go along with would be to have the committee counsel do the bulk of the questioning. IIRC, that’s what both Watergate and Iran/Contra committees did. Members got some time for questions, but the committee counsel could organize and pursue questioning in depth in ways that members could not.
Jane was here on a previous thread- postin an druggin and havin a good ol time.
mc @ 39
It won’t be reported much in the States, but, yes, this is where this is headed: war crimes trials.
Margaret!
Sending healing light and oodles of love to Jane today.
The Republicans in the Senate just told Rove to go Cheney himself.
Poor Turdblosson, that Midas touch is a tad rusty.
Fu*king loser.
-GSD
merciless at 71 — Spoke to her a little bit ago, and we were laughing at Toxic Joe’s abysmal impact on the Collins campaign. She sounded great, if a bit tired — but she’s fighting with everything she has. :) As if we’d expect anything less from Jane, eh?
Would be nice ta see GW Clusterfuck approachin the bar of justice—Yer honor- they tol me this shit was all legal- hell I couldn’t even get INTO law school- so what didja EXPECT me to do?
Over at TP Memo Josh invites us to view a clip of gwb’s response re his immigration bill with an eye toward the the wind being gone from the sails. gwb does look and sound tired but more than that he looks worried and scared.
Stephen Parrish, CPA @ 69
So if he’s not dumb then he is desperate smart people hate doing things that are dumb unless they have to. But if he’s really smart he might have kept some Rove RNC emails as insaurence against prosecutions/subpoenas we need to presure him.
Christy Hardin Smith @ 78
Thank you very much for the update, Christy!
Mod(s): thanks.
GSD @ 1:07 pm -
Do you have a link, please?
Ahgoo @ 79
He’s got nothing left to do in the next year and a half but fend off investigations and watch Iraq go deeper into a quagmire. That’s all that’s left for the limping mallard.
Commandments
The Lord Our Cheney by Mark Fiore
This is a SCREAM!!!
Clusterfuck took a big risk with this immigration bill- to establish relevance. He lost- twice- kicked in the teeth by his own party. He’s havin less fun bein president.
Jacqrat at 82 — You are more than welcome. :) Jane is going to kick this cancer’s ass — and it’s because of all the support she gets from everyone here, along with the meds. You guys have all been so good for her the whole way through this — and we’re going to keep it up as long as it takes to kick this cancer’s ass.
Stephen Parrish, CPA @ 69
That explains it.
Signed, Maryland fan
Wonder if W. has considered movin his “Library” to California to share space with Nixon.
He won’t need much space-
And americans should have an opportunity to consider the two crooks at the same time.
GW Clusterfuck Presidential Library
Open the door- and there’s a shredder.
Christy Hardin Smith @ 78
God bless that woman. She is sure my hero ……
GW Clusterfuck presidential papers on Iraq War—Check shreds in garbage cans 126 through 1134.
Emptywheel,
Don’t forget Feingold!! Make it three.
rwcole @ 90
that library will be all DVDs.
GW Clusterfuck’s sketches of Him bein greeted as a liberator are the only documents to have survived the shredders cruel treatment.
Clusterfuck will also retain self portraits of himself as Jesus.
Ahgoo @ 80
we may be about to find out if there really is a God ……
GW’s standing orders to the Secret Police:
Watch out fer Romans and Jews bringin a cross.
Joe Klein’s conscience @ 94
Yeah, I thought of him–given that it pertains to civil liberties, he might be great.
Cheney, Gonzo, Addington, Rove, Bush… may they all suffer from subpoena frenzy forevermore.
Ahgoo @ 80
Laura better lock the liquor cabinet, or we may see W’s public meltdown we’ve all
been waiting forfeared.emptywheel @ 99
Actually I’d substitute Feingold for Schumer. Chuck has this bad habit of not asking follow-up questions when he gets non-answers. Russ is more likely to keep pressing. Whitehouse is great.
OT but right up there with Trex being related to chickens and the giant penguin story: Meoooow!!!
Slothrop @ 75
Wasn’t CSR’s case dismissed in the German courts (sniff!)?
(Mod: Hope I’m not overnesting responses.)
AZ Matt @ 104
Thanks AZ! Matriarchs are awesome!
In the face of an asskicking by congress- Clusterfuck gives em a lecture about what they need to be doin- like cleanin up all his messes- but his heart ain’t in it- looks like the pigs just ate his little brother.
Bush is plumb tuckered out trying to get Congress to cooperate and get things done. And if that isn’t a ballsy enough retake on his six years of not acknowledging there is a United States Congress, he wants to ensure taxpayer money is spent wisely. Painful to hear and see the man (sic).
RevDeb @ 103
Feingold has been a voice in the wilderness. He doesn’t back down. Thumbs up.
Gooper senators heard ta say:
“Golll-ee” I just punted a Lame Duck’s ass over a hundred yards down the field. Got it SQUARE!!
Christy Hardin Smith @ 78
i hope jane gives herself a pat on the back (and you too, christy)… one of the reasons that joe is so toxic is because of the work jane did to focus our attention on him during the the lamont challenge.
Note ta GW from the Senate: “Your further assistance in the affairs of this body will not be necessary- enjoy yer brush clearin.”
Solid post EW, thank you. The problem with David Addington is given away in the image you have included, the refraction of his profile through his glasses. He is myopic, in every sense.
Cheney speechwriters have an easy job of it lately…
“I will not turn over _______(fill in the blank) today or ever because _______(fillin half assed legal opinion from Addington or Lawyers R us). Fuck you for your attention. ”
Shooter
merciless @ 72
I got mine there too. Not saying I liked it.
kdh22 @ 106
There’s a lotta matriachis in AZ, innit? I mean, it’s a border state, right…
AZ Matt @ 104
Neat. High time our feline friends got some genetic research love.
Christy, thanks so much for the update. Not that I worry…
OT- here’s the video of Emauel setting the vote for cutting funding of the VP’s office. There will be a vote on the bill later today. Make your calls to your reps to vote yea.
Emauel’s office 202-225-5871
I know it is symbolic, but it needs voter support.
rwcole @ 112
Ha ha! I remember reading an article in Vanity Fair some time ago. The write had interviewed all of GW’s neighbors from around the Crawford ranch. The one quote I remember in particular was a neighbor that said something to the affect that clearing the brush was abject foolishness. It provided home and food for the birds that were an essential part of the ecology in that area. Typical Bush, can’t see the ecology for the brush.
But your know, the Crawford ranch was built with every modern energy saving convenience in 1999 and it is much more fuel efficient than Al Gore’s late century, mansion. Consequentially, the right wing logic which follows is that Gore is a hypocrite and there is no truth to an inconvenient truth.
Sometimes I wish I had the luxury of right wing fallacious reasoning, it would make life and brush clearing, so much easier.
oddmommy, you know I was just being snarky, right? No offense meant to you or your fine institution…just to Addington and his overlords of darkness.
Course Bush’s ranch is a failed pig farm- so the brush is growing out of layers of pig shit hundreds of feet thick- which is what gives it it’s fragrance and special qualities.
Bush only clears brush when there’s a camera around- the rest of the time he crashes his mountain bike into the piles of pig shit- “Whoooo-PEEEEE”
FYI, new thread
rwcole @ 122
Failed businesses, failed baseball franchise (traded Sammy Sosa fur Chrissake!)…now he lives on failed pig shit, where he ignores the failings of his administration. The irony is succulent. I can only hope the geo-thermal recirculation system brings up a little remembrance of pigs past.
Ever hear of the Major Bushes comin down ta Crawford fer a holidy? Hell no- they go to Maine and get plastered.
rwcole @ 19
I’m sure I read that Fitz and Comey were very tight. Two strong GOP types.
dumbya @ 22
He now has Libby’s job. Perhaps there was a reason he was so verbose.
drive by–just got in from out of town, had a blast with family and friends, but good to be home.
catching up on threads and news, so will be on topic later when i catch up……
meanwhile, something it never occurred to me to mention=
i found firedoglake way back through through the commenters at achenblog from wapo…they are a community like firedoglake is………
i see fromkin mentioned, whom i also have followed for a while now, but wondered if anyone visits achenblog? i like him a lot…….and if not for him, i never would have found the healing waters of the lake.
he’s especially snarky today……
http://blog.washingtonpost.com…..rrer=email
Oh definitely, hope that CHS and EW can tag team to influence the SJC into letting Schumer and Whitehouse lead the questioning.
I think I’d suggested Addington might be a high-functioning Asperger’s at the time of the Libby trial during his testimony; what Marcy was describing I’ve seen in other Asperger’s folks I’ve worked with (and even interviewed this week). They can be incredibly intelligent, able to twist and maneuver mentally in ways that the average intellect cannot not, and yet there’s no social sensitivity, no awareness of self and the need for a discreet separation between what one is and knows, and the other. Marcy’s comment about the lack of a filter is dead on. Wish I could have seen him in person as Marcy did, to look for other clues, like odd personal tics that maybe normal but just to the edge of normal. Did he look Fitz in the eyes or others in the room, or was he evasive — even though he wasn’t evasive in terms of his actual testimony?
And what sets him off? The few folks I’ve worked with who are Aspie’s have a threshold, a point of overload. Did he appear to have one?
There’s one more question that’s been niggling in my mind since Addington’s testimony; obviously Cheney likes his work, retaining him in spite of the outcome of testimony, moving him into Scooter’s spot. Is it because Cheney is likewise challenged with a lack of social filters? Is this why he’s so ready to dismiss the question of popularity with the public (i.e., not elected to be liked but to help the GOP)
Although in Cheney’s case the lack of filters is combined with a wanton disregard for laws; not merely different wiring but a pathology. I wonder whether the initial response we saw from Addington claiming Cheney’s office was exempt from ISOO oversight was Cheney’s dictation, but the later backpedaling Addington’s part, due to his real sense of the legal that Cheney doesn’t share…?
EW,
I love when you write about ADD. He is such an interesting creature. I agree with your diagnosis of Aspergers. Maybe Kirk Murphy MD or Pach can give us a professional opinion since they are our resident shrinks at the lake. I have enjoyed your multiple posts this week at TNH. Thanks for continuing this journey with us.
lolo
lolo!
egregious @ 132
Hi egregious!
EPU’d hopefully.
For Cheney, Libby, Addington et al does it not boil down to two question?
1. Are they true believers to the crap they spew and feel they are soldiers in this cause Or
2. Are they just crude mafia type manipulators who know how to con us all while they dance merrily to the bank?
things come undone @ 64
The link between Big Oil/Bush,LLP, Big Biz (MIC/BANKING) and the PNAC plan to stage a coup on our constitution and take over the republic. And that link spins around a permanent war footing to enable the coup.
This is all a Coup Of Capitalism’s Ruler’s And Powers That Be . . . they use this to get the rest of the world.
Simple stuff . . . really. It all just got too public or they woulda pulled it off without a whimper from us Joe N Jane Publics.
AZ Matt @ 86
Fiore and Morford are two of my fav reads on any day . . . all from the leftovers of Herb Cain and SFGate . . . they both do real well in reminding me of the salad days of SF Chronicle.
I hadn’t seen this Fiore, so thanks for posting it! *G*
While I recognize the experts on Aspergers for Addington I also wonder to what extent his testimony in Libby was also a product of an evil genius anxious to display his knowledge at last to the World (as in the secret world is where the real patriots spend their time.)
Lastly with the supremes in their pocket and the executive owned and stonewalling to the legislative branch, isn’t Addington the KEY?
rwcole @ 90
I’m SURE there’s room for a box of comic books but, it WOULD be a step down from Nixon’s stuff.
I almost feel sorry for Scooter Libby and any other of the subordinates who had to work in this administration’s environment of lies, secrecy, deciet, and cover ups. It seems like it would be hard to do your job effectively while always trying to keep your ever changing stories straight in case there was some investigation. The thing is they relied on people like Karl Rove to run the election cycles to keep a rubber stamp majority in congress so there would never be any meaningful oversight. With a republican majority in congress, nobody in the White House would ever get caught. It’s no wonder why all these people are resigning and fleeing before they have the chance of ending up like Scooter Libby. All the republicans in congress are just as complicit in all this as the White House and they are getting off scott free. The only way we have to prosecute them for their crimes is to vote them out of office, but they are rarely exposed because so much if not all the attention is on the White House. If only the average american spent a few hours every week watching C-span.
marshen @ 139
Well said!
I’ve read all the comments and concluded you are all shrill and nattering nabobs.
Aren’t you aware of the schools being painted in Indiana?
Peterr @ 73
The St. Louis Post-Dispatch has a profile of Claire McCaskill that discusses her prosecutorial style and gives an example of Jay Rockefeller giving his lead.
She is also fighting for freshmen senators to be able to chair subcommittees. To me this makes sense as the same people don’t have time to put forth maximum effort in every committee and subcommittee.
St. Louis Post-Dispatch article on Claire McCaskill
Former prosecutors make great senators!
rwcole @ 87
I thought he called it “my base”.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 5
They should’ve checked with Justice Scalia who argues persuasively that foreign law and practice is not American law or practice. We do not have monarchs as our Law does not allow it.
Christy Hardin Smith @ 88
The meds may well have knocked her immune system for a loop, though. Does anyone have tips on how to rebuild an immune system?
Frist is a thoracic surgeon–he was at Vandy. He did try to Dx Schiavo from the Senate floor via TV ridiculously, considering on MRI she was tragically decerebrate.
Addington definitely does not have Aspergur’s syndrome, but he is, like all of the West Wing consumately sociopathic.
Sorry–would have helped to spell it correctly–Asperger’s.
Can you flip a guy with a single sentence? No, but anyone at that level must know times change and the truth always comes out.
rwcole @ 90
rwcole @ 90
I misread that as “the two books” at first, but that would fit too. The Nixon/W library, containing the best moments of their respective presidencies (i.e., printed articles of impeachment).