zed?

w00t!

Awesome. The gift that just keeps on giving. How about the 750,000 documents in the Abramoff case nobody gets to see? Hope they nail Delay down the line too. Also, I love that 5 of the fired USAs were senior committee members on the Indian affairs committee.

See ya Doo little.
I just saw this news at TPM while I was surfing.

I knew Charlie Brown in school. Nice guy.

I am amazed with Rove running the DOJ and the ongoing obstruction of justice that any of these cases are allowed to move forward.
What has Doolittle or Ted Stevens done to piss off Rove?

More good news regarding Conrad Black (and Richard Pearle). Fitz!

http://www.dailykos.com/storyo…..12257/5647

KINDA Off-Topic:

Alberto Gonzales will be in Boise, Idaho this afternoon. He will be appearing at the Senior Citizen, which just happens to be next door to my place of employment.

I still don’t understand how Griles got to plead without an obligation to cooperate. Hopefully, the Woman Scorned in her cooperation brings some further information forward that Griles has kept out of the public eye and they can realy nail hus a**. Along with his former boss and her boss, and Delay, and Lewis, and Doolittle and all the rest of the Retug wise-guys.

EPU’d from downstairs (sorry if OT):

Hugh @ 29

Cheney is not the only keeper of the Bubble. Karl Rove and to some extent Condi Rice have also contributed. But the idea is correct. It is who has access to and knows how to manipulate the President and who can get to him first that wins the day. I talk about this at the beginning of my list. The Bubble is also a function of Bush’s character. He doesn’t look for other answers or alternate views. The first one that comes along neatly packaged and wrapped in the shiny paper is the one he will go for. After that, his brain overtaxed by being awake and actually having had to do something, even if minimally, clicks off.

What is bothering me a bit is the feeling that Cheney is being set up (deservedly) to carry all the sins of this administration, so that when he disappears under the bus, all that is ugly disappears too. But where is Karl in all this? My feeling is that he is behind much of the current feeding frenzy on Cheney’s rancid body.

IntelVet at 5 — He’s great. And he came so close in the last election cycle against Doolittle’s machine…this time around, we are starting early for Charlie. He’d be a wonderful member of Congress.

I need a flow chart to keep up with who is being investigated for what. How far along are the various investigations and most importantly how many Republican politicans are being investigated in states where a Democrat govenor can replace them with a Democrat? I am really interested in potiential pickups in the Senate. Also Karl can count despite his “math”. What do you wanna bet that he is leaning on the Justice Dept to go slow or tank investigations into Republican Senators? If he loses enough Senators he loses his filibuster so I would expect him to be very concerned about that. Forget the lost Emails I want the recent ones to the Justice Dept. Also does anyone have any idea how Karl is talking now? Has he set up another account or what? Last I checked all the GOP talking heads on the Main Stream Media all seem to be talking with the EXACT SAME TALKING POINTS. There is noway Karl would be ussing the White House email system because another bunch of cough lost emails” would be hard to explain. How can we find out?

Steve @ 6

I am amazed with Rove running the DOJ and the ongoing obstruction of justice that any of these cases are allowed to move forward.
What has Doolittle or Ted Stevens done to piss off Rove?

Yeah, Imagine what we could have learned about the extent of Abramoff’s corruption and his connection to Cheney had the DOJ not been rigged. Perhaps I am hopeful, but I like to think that some of the prosecutions will continue because there is a little oversight from Waxman, Conyers, Leahy, et. al.

Rats never swim toward a sinking ship, do they?

Sounds like another USAtty gonna hafta find new job…

OT (a bit early, but it’d be dpu’d downstairs)
The menu on Woody Guthrie’s Guitar today includes Marilyn Manson, an amazing Kurt Weill cover, Traffic, Richard Thompson, the Byrds, P,P&M, plus a couple of (funny)outliers.
http://woodyguthriesguitar.blogspot.com/

Over on The Pond, there’s a story about news outlets–a newspaper in Lincoln, NE, and a Fox TV station in Omaha–who hve fired folks for donating to political campaigns. It’s just a coincidence that the donations were to Democrats.
http://www.walled-in-pond.blogspot.com/

Then, fyeieio, on the Lamb, there’s a story of the latest success in Afghanistan: the record heroin poppy harvest. Yahooooo!
http://www.thewell-armedlamb.blogspot.com/

Later today, on The Pond, I’ll put up a deconstruction of a piece of popular, widely circulated, pro-war propaganda, but I’ve gotta run here shortly and haven’t finished it yet. Clue: Lt.Col. Joe Repya…

high 90s in the High Chihuahuan;
stay cool, dudes and dudettes!

Terry at 14 — Not in my experience in watching members of a conspiracy turn on each other, time and time again. Pretty much no.

I asked down below, but too late for answers:

Having called my senator’s (Schumer’s) DC office directly, is there any point in calling his local NYC office as well?

Wordsmith @ 8

KINDA Off-Topic:

Alberto Gonzales will be in Boise, Idaho this afternoon. He will be appearing at the Senior Citizen, which just happens to be next door to my place of employment.

Are you attending? If so, please keep us posted!

LS @ 7

More good news regarding Conrad Black (and Richard Pearle). Fitz!

http://www.dailykos.com/storyo…..12257/5647

That’s a cryin’ shame, ain’t it?

Harriet at 17 — Just left you a response in the other thread. :)

Sometime in the mid-90s, some clever person, I forget who, wrote that the Republicans in Congress were the party of Doolittle, Hyde, Barr, and Delay. I thought that was pretty funny.

Better yet, only Doolittle is remaining, and he’s about to go.

Hmmm….so Gonzales is coming here to show that the administration has support. Not to be believed, of course.

Rats have a penchant for lying, while others don’t.

This has been kept very, very low-key. But not near enough.

Spurious @ 10 – I agree this Cheney tell all is a setup. Guessing Cheney will resign due to health reasons soon & Rove will install the next VP (Condi? Thompson?) heir to the White House.

I haven’t been around at all today and sorry to have missed some posts but I have a suggestion that leahey needs to consider when they de fund the vice president;

you know how you can re coup funding that was not made properly?…for instance welfare will get the money back they payed if they find you were being payed under circumstances that didn’t fit protocol

I think once they get the vice president’s office defunded they should go after back funding as well

perris @ 24

I haven’t been around at all today and sorry to have missed some posts but I have a suggestion that leahey needs to consider when they de fund the vice president;

you know how you can re coup funding that was not made properly?

I think once they get the vice president’s office defunded they should go after back funding as well

Good idea!

Loo Hoo @ 18

Wordsmith @ 8

KINDA Off-Topic:

Alberto Gonzales will be in Boise, Idaho this afternoon. He will be appearing at the Senior Citizen, which just happens to be next door to my place of employment.

Are you attending? If so, please keep us posted!

I’m going in to work a bit early so I can saunter on down later…like on break or lunch. I work directly next door to the Ft. Boise Community Center AND my office windows directly face the street where I can see all comings and goings. I’m taking my camera, binoculars, poisoned darts*, snacks….and I can stand in the cafeteria on the 4th floor and see wonderfully as well.

*/snark inserted/

LS @ 3

Awesome. The gift that just keeps on giving. How about the 750,000 documents in the Abramoff case nobody gets to see? Hope they nail Delay down the line too. Also, I love that 5 of the fired USAs were senior committee members on the Indian affairs committee.

I am with you there, those documents would be incredible to see. What would be even more devastating to the goopers are copies of deleted white house emails that individuals have kept of insurance in case they were subject of an investigation.

yellowsnapdragon @ 13

Steve @ 6

I am amazed with Rove running the DOJ and the ongoing obstruction of justice that any of these cases are allowed to move forward.
What has Doolittle or Ted Stevens done to piss off Rove?

Yeah, Imagine what we could have learned about the extent of Abramoff’s corruption and his connection to Cheney had the DOJ not been rigged. Perhaps I am hopeful, but I like to think that some of the prosecutions will continue because there is a little oversight from Waxman, Conyers, Leahy, et. al.

“We have a Justice Department that has substantially been turned into a political arm of the White House,” Bruce Fein told the McClatchy Newspapers earlier this week.

http://rawstory.com/showarticl…..of_alabama

http://rawstory.com/showarticl…..of_alabama

I hope Bruce Fein checks his car brakes every morning

Steve @ 28

yellowsnapdragon @ 13

Yeah, Imagine what we could have learned about the extent of Abramoff’s corruption and his connection to Cheney had the DOJ not been rigged. Perhaps I am hopeful, but I like to think that some of the prosecutions will continue because there is a little oversight from Waxman, Conyers, Leahy, et. al.

“We have a Justice Department that has substantially been turned into a political arm of the White House,” Bruce Fein told the McClatchy Newspapers earlier this week.

http://rawstory.com/showarticl…..of_alabama

http://rawstory.com/showarticl…..of_alabama

I hope Bruce Fein checks his car brakes every morning

Loved it when he stepped up @ Feingold’s censure hearing, too.

Too bad this just gets lost in the fog of Gonzo at the DOJ. I’m not holding my breath. When this story broke, they said there were 60 or so Repugs involved. What happened?

(reaching back for a recycled oldie)

good Duke / bad Duke –

“Doolittle, till you hear from me”

Doolittle, till you hear from me
Pay no attention to what’s said
Why people tear the seam of anyone’s dream
Is over my head

Doolittle, till you hear from me
At least consider our romance
If you should take the word of others you’ve heard
I haven’t a chance

Wordsmith @ 8

KINDA Off-Topic:

Alberto Gonzales will be in Boise, Idaho this afternoon. He will be appearing at the Senior Citizen, which just happens to be next door to my place of employment.

I have one word for you.

Eggs.

Diane @ 23

Spurious @ 10 – I agree this Cheney tell all is a setup. Guessing Cheney will resign due to health reasons soon & Rove will install the next VP (Condi? Thompson?) heir to the White House.

Any nominee made HAS to be approved by both the House and Senate. I rather doubt that the Dems in charge (or the Repubs like McCain, Tancredo, Brownback, et al) will just rubber stamp a Condi or Freddie to move into the WH as an heir apparent for ‘08.

My best speculative guess is that someone like an Alan Simpson who would be forced to promise NOT to be a candidate in ‘08.

Steve @28 I couldn’t get your links to work.

The GOP is the “family values” party? Lets examine their front runner Rudy.

1.Bernie Kerik
2.Giuliani’s South Carolina chairman, state Treasurer Thomas Ravenel, was indicted on federal cocaine charges last week and stepped down from Giuliani’s campaign.
3.Victims’ advocates called on Giuliani to fire Monsignor Alan Placa, a Catholic priest suspended from the church over abuse allegations, from Giuliani’s security consulting firm. A Giuliani spokeswoman said last week that the company has no plans to fire Placa, a childhood friend of Giuliani’s.

Oklahoma kiddo @ 35

The GOP is the “family values” party? Lets examine their front runner Rudy.

1.Bernie Kerik
2.Giuliani’s South Carolina chairman, state Treasurer Thomas Ravenel, was indicted on federal cocaine charges last week and stepped down from Giuliani’s campaign.
3.Victims’ advocates called on Giuliani to fire Monsignor Alan Placa, a Catholic priest suspended from the church over abuse allegations, from Giuliani’s security consulting firm. A Giuliani spokeswoman said last week that the company has no plans to fire Placa, a childhood friend of Giuliani’s.

sounds more like Soprano Family Values, don’t ya think?

don’t know if posted but the re pukelicans are trying to get rid of cheney?

hmmm

Elliott @ 36

Oklahoma kiddo @ 35

The GOP is the “family values” party? Lets examine their front runner Rudy.

1.Bernie Kerik
2.Giuliani’s South Carolina chairman, state Treasurer Thomas Ravenel, was indicted on federal cocaine charges last week and stepped down from Giuliani’s campaign.
3.Victims’ advocates called on Giuliani to fire Monsignor Alan Placa, a Catholic priest suspended from the church over abuse allegations, from Giuliani’s security consulting firm. A Giuliani spokeswoman said last week that the company has no plans to fire Placa, a childhood friend of Giuliani’s.

sounds more like Soprano Family Values, don’t ya think?

;0)

I just love when you bring good news Christy.

OT What is the timetable with Libby?

I’ve been waiting for a Doolittle indictment for a while, and then there’s Renzi, Jerry Lewis, and Duncan Hunter.

perris — I hit that earlier here. In case you want my take on it, it was a lovely mash note for Fred Thompson. *G*

Hugh @ 40

I’ve been waiting for a Doolittle indictment for a while, and then there’s Renzi, Jerry Lewis, and Duncan Hunter.

for starters! ;)

As I said earlier what can one expect from the doyenne of the inside the beltway cocktail weenie circuit.

Wordsmith, I didn’t know the evil little Chipmunk was coming to town. Looking for a safe haven, eh?

I see that Grant and Hansen have called for his resignation.

Keep us posted on what he does.

From Sally Q The idea is to install a vice president who could beat the Democratic nominee in 2008. It’s unlikely that any of the top three Republican candidates — former New York Mayor Rudolph Giuliani, Sen. John McCain of Arizona or former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney — would want the job, for fear that association with Bush’s war would be the kiss of death.

What install? This would have to go through the Dem Senate would it not? What was the process when Spiro T was axed?

Taking down one Republican at a time. Might have to let some federal cons out on early release to accommodate the influx of Republican crooks, shysters and traitors.

Hugh @ 40

I’ve been waiting for a Doolittle indictment for a while, and then there’s Renzi, Jerry Lewis, and Duncan Hunter.

All deserve an indictment, but I will jump for joy if/when Hunter gets put down. What an arrogant, condescending, know-it-all he is! And, he thinks that the louder he talks, the more people will listen. Not.

nomolos at 45 — Well, clearly, Sally thinks that the rules are for little people…

Hi. I had posted this in the last thread just as it closed so if it seems slightly off topic please bear with me.

My question is if OVP is not granted executive authority under the Constitution, then doesn’t his empowerment at the discretion of an individual President transform him into “other public Ministers and Consuls” as described in Article II, Section 2?

Not that he is no longer the VP, just that he is being empowered with an additional office.

Note that this would also place that potential delegation of what is essentially Cabinet level authority to being subject to Senate confirmation.

Any thoughts?

Hugh @ 40

I’ve been waiting for a Doolittle indictment for a while, and then there’s Renzi, Jerry Lewis, and Duncan Hunter.

Oooohh. Duncan Hunter. He’s the one I want to see behind bars.

Someone once told me Fitz is never OT at FDL:

Former Time poobah Norman Pearlstine’s new book about his role in the Valerie Plame scandal is titled Off the Record, but don’t be misled: he devotes most of his time to naming names, mouthing off about his enemies, and firing back at those who criticized his cooperation with federal prosecutors.

In a rare moment of introspection about Time reporter Matt Cooper, Pearlstine concedes, “None of his editors, including this one, provided adequate guidance.” But mostly, Pearlstine sticks to a valuable lesson clearly learned during his time in the corporate corner office: Blame your underlings. Pearlstine faults Cooper and his fellow reporter Viveca Novak for forcing the company’s hand with U.S. Attorney Patrick Fitzgerald in the case.

I look at the Republican line-up for ‘08 and the only thing I see missing is Joe Lieberman.

Does anyone think that Blackwater may well be the shock troops of the Republican Party? Everyone knows that there are countless operative i.e. Tim Griffin, that are willing to orchestrate mayhem and mischief throughout the land. Is it so far fetched to think that when their world really becomes decimated by federal indictments and prison sentences that the storm troopers will be turned loose to take care of their political opponents once and for all. After all for Republicans it’s all about the power.

whoops. i posted this comment on the wrong thead…

i’m just getting set up to listen to this afternoon’s house judiciary committee hearing…. and i see one of my heros, Lt. Commander Charlie Swift, is listed as a witness.

one thing that’s got me a bit worried, is that there is no webcast link up yet (c-span is covering another hearing, so committee webcast is where the action will be).

i called the committee receptionist, who assured me there would be a webcast (”all our hearings are webcast”)… so fingers crossed. i’d like a litte inspiration from charlie swift today!

here are all the witnesses listed:

Gregory Katsas
Principal Deputy Associate Attorney General Office of the Associate Attorney General U. S. Department of Justice

Lt. Commander Charlie Swift
Judge Advocate General Corps U. S. Navy Office of Military Commissions

William Taft
Of Counsel Fried, Frank, Harris, Shriver, Jacobsen, LLP

Bradford Berenson
Partner Sidley Austin LLP

Jonathan Hafetz
Litigation Director of the Liberty and National Security Project at the Brennan Center for Justice New York University School of Law

selise at 54 — Was just looking for that as well onthe webcast. Thanks much! (My in-laws are visiting us for the next few weeks, and I’m all discombobulated today…much appreciated on the heads up.)

yellowsnapdragon @ 34

Steve @28 I couldn’t get your links to work.

I can’t either..maybe because primary sources are subscription sites….The Raw link will go to the correntewire then click on the “This” in the first sentence and follow the “rabbit” down the hole.
.

Re: Giuliani and “family values”:

Rudy is so estranged from his two kids that (1) Caroline (the daughter) never told daddy when she got into Harvard, and (2) They’ve both dropped his last name.

Biodun at 57 — That really is very sad for the kids. I’ve been in the middle of some messy divorce and custody spats with clients way, way back when I was still doing domestic work – and I always felt so horrible for the kids caught in the middle of the messes. To have to deal with it all on such a public stage? Really awful for them.

Christy Hardin Smith @ 55

selise at 54 — Was just looking for that as well onthe webcast. Thanks much! (My in-laws are visiting us for the next few weeks, and I’m all discombobulated today…much appreciated on the heads up.)

Wow. That’s scary. ;o)

I’m worried that this latest revelation re Doolittle is less than it appears. According to David Whitney’s front page story in the Sacramento Bee, these records were turned over by Lopez last year. I wish I had more hope that something good was about to happen but this seems to be taking too long. I think Donothing covered his tracks too well.

Even though I live .25 miles outside of CA-4, I will be working hard for Charlie in ‘08.

Arianna has a little interesting thing on Senator Clinton.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/…..53725.html

But I have to say, when push comes to shove, as I expect it will, I will take the Senator from NY.

How adults handle divorce with their children speaks volumes as to “character” and “values”.
Christy Hardin Smith @ 58

Biodun at 57 — That really is very sad for the kids. I’ve been in the middle of some messy divorce and custody spats with clients way, way back when I was still doing domestic work – and I always felt so horrible for the kids caught in the middle of the messes. To have to deal with it all on such a public stage? Really awful for them.

Bluetoe @ 53

Does anyone think that Blackwater may well be the shock troops of the Republican Party? Everyone knows that there are countless operative i.e. Tim Griffin, that are willing to orchestrate mayhem and mischief throughout the land. Is it so far fetched to think that when their world really becomes decimated by federal indictments and prison sentences that the storm troopers will be turned loose to take care of their political opponents once and for all. After all for Republicans it’s all about the power.

Speaking of Tim Griffin, TPMmuckraker has an analysis of the voting spreadsheet for Duval Co, FL that was provided to Greg Palast. Seems to be an extremely small chance of accidents happening. Timmy’s got some ’splainin’ to do!

Indictments following the primaries please- thank you very much!

Democracy. Bush style.

U.N.: Opium production soaring in Afghanistan
Nation’s record poppy harvest has boosted global supply to new record high

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19431056/

Mack at 62 – Amen on that one. It was the rare case where the parents put the kids’ needs first. The fact that I can recall each one individually says a lot in terms of what I saw in the others.

TPM Muckraker investigated and confirmed the Greg Palast reports that finger Tim Griffin in the vote caging conspiracy.

I posted the following comment:

===========

The caging list tactic is just the tip of the iceberg, in the ongoing GOP criminal conspiracy to supress the minority vote. The 1982 DNC v RNC consent decree also covered the GOP Ballot Security Task Force (BSTF) tactic. This is discussed in depth by Rachel E. Berry, Democratic National Committee v. Edward J. Rollins: Politics as Usual or Unusual Politics?

This is excerpted and linked in my piece, The Texas Blueprint for the Stolen Election —

http://democrats.com/blueprint

The criminal conspiracy to steal the 2000 election in Florida was launched no later than the summer of 1998, with George W Bush, Karl Rove, Jeb Bush, and Tom Feeney as principal co-conspirators.

===========

Now, if we can get some of the co-conspriators in that scandal to flip, impeachment might not be a dead letter . . .

Christy Hardin Smith @ 55

selise at 54 — Was just looking for that as well onthe webcast. Thanks much! (My in-laws are visiting us for the next few weeks, and I’m all discombobulated today…much appreciated on the heads up.)

just called the committee number back again… and this time i was put on hold so he could find out what the scoop is. sadly, there will be no webcast. :(

i requested that a msg be left for whoever takes care of the webcasting… i know for a fact that there are alot of fans of the house judiciary committee webcasts, especially on such important topics as habeas corpus and gitmo. please, please get the equipment to be able to webcast from whatever room is used… otherwise only people who go to the hearings can listen to what is said.

he was surprised to be told that c-span wasn’t showing the hearing live.

seemed like a nice guy… i hope he does leave my message with someone who can do something for future webcasts.

sigh.

Waaaaaaaaaa….where’s the hearing??? Waaaaaaaaa..

-ck- @ 67

TPM Muckraker investigated and confirmed the Greg Palast reports that finger Tim Griffin in the vote caging conspiracy.

I posted the following comment:

===========

The caging list tactic is just the tip of the iceberg, in the ongoing GOP criminal conspiracy to supress the minority vote. The 1982 DNC v RNC consent decree also covered the GOP Ballot Security Task Force (BSTF) tactic. This is discussed in depth by Rachel E. Berry, Democratic National Committee v. Edward J. Rollins: Politics as Usual or Unusual Politics?

This is excerpted and linked in my piece, The Texas Blueprint for the Stolen Election —

http://democrats.com/blueprint

The criminal conspiracy to steal the 2000 election in Florida was launched no later than the summer of 1998, with George W Bush, Karl Rove, Jeb Bush, and Tom Feeney as principal co-conspirators.

===========

Now, if we can get some of the co-conspriators in that scandal to flip, impeachment might not be a dead letter . . .

Please, please, please…make this happen…

Bluetoe #53,
Not far-fetched at all, but IMO, won’t happen anytime soon. Thre’s just not any kind of general uprising among the population that would call for that kind of response, and I doubt we’re going to see that many prosecutions to begin with. Not that they aren’t deserved-just that the clock is ticking. Even though Bush’s polls are in the tank, most people I talk to just think he’s a bad President-the degree of criminality involved is missed, except by those paying close attention.
RJH has been writing about Blackwater lately at her site here.

selise at 68 — And here I was, frantically thinking that my technology-challenged self was just doing something wrong. SIGH Good to know it isn’t just me, then. Thanks so much for calling — was just about to ask if anyone else was having a problem.

At the end of the day, Gore is the one.

LS @ 69

Waaaaaaaaaa….where’s the hearing??? Waaaaaaaaa..

Waaa, too
and I popped the corn all ready!

Christy @ 58:

Yep. Really sad. Rudy’s split from their mom (Donna Hanover, who, BTW, is a regular on Law & Order) was so public (I’m sure you remember that–televised pressers and all) that his kids probably never forgave him for that. And they probably can’t stand his third wife.

Oklahoma kiddo @ 73

At the end of the day, Gore is the one.

Hear, Hear!

Christy Hardin Smith @ 72

selise at 68 — And here I was, frantically thinking that my technology-challenged self was just doing something wrong. SIGH Good to know it isn’t just me, then. Thanks so much for calling — was just about to ask if anyone else was having a problem.

you’re most welcome, of course.

hope you have a great visit with the peanut’s grandparents!

OT..but news

Inside Politics|

Senate immigration bill clears hurdle by handful of votes
POSTED: 1:49 p.m. EDT, June 26, 2007

http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/06/2…..index.html

I am probably wrong but I wish the Dems would wait until after 01/20/09. Stripping “comparable wages” from the guest worker program is a killer for me.

Rudy has been irresponsible in his public and business dealings, and his private life.

newspaperbrat @ 76

Oklahoma kiddo @ 73

At the end of the day, Gore is the one.

Hear, Hear!

;0)!

Oklahoma kiddo @ 79

Rudy has been irresponsible in his public and business dealings, and his private life.

Once a cheater, always a cheater. No integrity.

Oklahoma kiddo @ 80

newspaperbrat @ 76

Hear, Hear!

;0)!

Hear, Hear, Hear!

Doesn’t America deserve better that what the Republicans are offering?

Steve @ 78

OT..but news

Inside Politics|

Senate immigration bill clears hurdle by handful of votes
POSTED: 1:49 p.m. EDT, June 26, 2007

http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/06/2…..index.html

I am probably wrong but I wish the Dems would wait until after 01/20/09. Stripping “comparable wages” from the guest worker program is a killer for me.

thanks for the heads up… i also am not happy about this vote. i will believe the democrats are serious about doing justice to immigrants and workers here and abroad when they address our so-called “free trade” policies. speaker pelosi’s secret trade negotiations with the bush adminstration early this year do not give me hope that the time has yet come.

LS @ 82

Oklahoma kiddo @ 80

;0)!

Hear, Hear, Hear!

;0)!!!

LS @ 81

Oklahoma kiddo @ 79

Rudy has been irresponsible in his public and business dealings, and his private life.

Once a cheater, always a cheater. No integrity.

Is Rudy himself mobbed up?

Oklahoma kiddo @ 73

At the end of the day, Gore is the one.

At the end of the day it’s “who is the Dem that can get elected”. If we don’t get the Presidency in ‘09, this country is fucked; and it may be any way but at least there is a chance.

Oklahoma kiddo @ 65

Democracy. Bush style.

U.N.: Opium production soaring in Afghanistan
Nation’s record poppy harvest has boosted global supply to new record high

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19431056/

Great way to cut off funds to Al Qaida, eh? I wonder of anyone on the Bush Foreign Policy team took International Relations 101.

Steve @ 87

Oklahoma kiddo @ 73

At the end of the day, Gore is the one.

At the end of the day it’s “who is the Dem that can get elected”. If we don’t get the Presidency in ‘09, this country is fucked; and it may be any way but at least there is a chance.

I’m listening to you. ;0)

yellowsnapdragon @ 88

Oklahoma kiddo @ 65

Democracy. Bush style.

U.N.: Opium production soaring in Afghanistan
Nation’s record poppy harvest has boosted global supply to new record high

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19431056/

Great way to cut off funds to Al Qaida, eh? I wonder of anyone on the Bush Foreign Policy team took International Relations 101.

War-On.Drugs.

LS @ 82
Oklahoma kiddo @ 80
npb @ 76

(Gore)

Hear, Hear!

;0)!

Hear, Hear, Hear!

here, there, everywhere

-ck- @ 86

LS @ 81

Once a cheater, always a cheater. No integrity.

Is Rudy himself mobbed up?

I don’t think so. He’s just disloyal to those closest to him.

Steve @ 87

Oklahoma kiddo @ 73

At the end of the day, Gore is the one.

At the end of the day it’s “who is the Dem that can get elected”. If we don’t get the Presidency in ‘09, this country is fucked; and it may be any way but at least there is a chance.

not this time. ‘cuz we don’t know who can get elected (been there done that – and we lost).

this time i think we need to concentrate on who we think will make the best president. best thing for the country… and otherwise i fear a low voter turnout and a possible third party challenge to split the vote.

New Froomkin Title is “Cheney, so twenty minutes ago…”

Opium production soaring in Afghanistan — record poppy harvest has boosted global supply to new record high

The Drug Trade has a curious habit of record expansion where ever the CIA goes.

selise @ 93

Steve @ 87

At the end of the day it’s “who is the Dem that can get elected”. If we don’t get the Presidency in ‘09, this country is fucked; and it may be any way but at least there is a chance.

not this time. ‘cuz we don’t know who can get elected (been there done that – and we lost).

this time i think we need to concentrate on who we think will make the best president. best thing for the country… and otherwise i fear a low voter turnout and a possible third party challenge to split the vote.

;0)!

LOL PREZNIT!

Great way to cut off funds to Al Qaida, eh? I wonder of anyone on the Bush Foreign Policy team took International Relations 101.
War-On.Drugs.

Wonder if Air America is flying?

newtonusr @ 90

yellowsnapdragon @ 88

Great way to cut off funds to Al Qaida, eh? I wonder of anyone on the Bush Foreign Policy team took International Relations 101.

War-On.Drugs.

exactly. another fake war to justfy huge militarized budgets that provide corporate welfare to their friends…. and justify bases, and military intervention all over the world. blegh.

OKk #83,
Yes. We also deserve better than a lot of what the Democrats offer. Even though the Dems are better than the Repubs at this point in time, they are also so shot through with corruption and corporatist attitudes that at times it is difficult to tell them apart. The last 6 years have been an exception to this, only because Bushco is SO BAD. IMO, the party/candidate to really fix this mess has not yet appeared, and shows no signs of coming-and if he/she did, they would instantly be denounced as a Libertarian Socialist. Closer to the truth would be a true Social Democratic Party. Absent that, the best we can hope for is to stop digging the hole we’re in any deeper.
IMO.

Re: Rudy:

From wiki:

In May 2000, the New York Daily News broke news of Giuliani’s extramarital relationship with Judith Nathan, a sales manager for a pharmaceutical company. Giuliani then called a press conference to announce that he intended to separate from Hanover.[215][216][217] Hanover, however, had not been told about his plans before his press conference[218], an omission for which Giuliani was widely criticized.[219] Previously, Giuliani had hinted at the relationship by referring to Nathan as his “very good friend.” Giuliani now went on to praise Nathan as a “very, very fine woman”, and said about his marriage with Hanover, that “over the course of some period of time in many ways, we’ve grown to live independent and separate lives.” Hours later Hanover said, “I had hoped that we could keep this marriage together. For several years, it was difficult to participate in Rudy’s public life because of his relationship with one staff member,” a reference to Lategano. Giuliani, Hanover and Nathan appeared on the cover of People magazine in the aftermath.[220]

Slightly OT:

Hey, I got a letter to the Editor printed in my local paper! (Yes, it has second billing, under the apparently rabid and terrifying problem titled: “Grocery Cart Mess” but still…

LINK

Support proposal
As a disabled American citizen, I urge all my neighbors to contact Sen. Barbara Boxer, Sen. Dianne Feinstein and Rep. Pete Stark and ask them to support HR 676.

Under HR 676, Medicare would be extended and improved so that all individuals residing in the United States would receive high quality and affordable health care services. They would receive all medically necessary services by the physicians of their choice, with no restrictions on what providers they could visit.

If implemented, the United States National Health Insurance Act would cover primary care, dental, mental health, prescription drugs and long-term care.

This is nothing less than every other industrialized nation in the world enjoys — with benefits like lower infant mortality rates and more longevity than we do here in the U.S. — the richest, most powerful nation in the world.

Michael Moore’s latest movie, “Sicko,” shows you exactly how the insurance and pharmaceutical companies conspire to keep us from having free medical care, and Dennis Kucinich, running for president in 2008, already proposes universal, single-payer medical coverage.

Please work toward making this happen. It might not save you, but it will save your kids.

-Jacqrat
Hometown, USA

punaise @ 91

LS @ 82
Oklahoma kiddo @ 80
npb @ 76

(Gore)

Hear, Hear!

;0)!

Hear, Hear, Hear!

here, there, everywhere

I’m feeling mobilized.

-ck- @ 95

Opium production soaring in Afghanistan — record poppy harvest has boosted global supply to new record high

The Drug Trade has a curious habit of record expansion where ever the CIA goes.

No doubt Osama and the successors of Arbusto and Harkin are filling their joint account at some offshore haven right now. The more things change, the more they seem to stay the same.

Also from wiki:

The official Giuliani campaign website biography mentions Nathan but not his children or his former wives.[229]

I believe I read that Gore said impeachment for bush was a mistake

think he’s changed his mind yet?

LS @ 82

Oklahoma kiddo @ 80

;0)!

Hear, Hear, Hear!

‘ere!

“Quartet”? Will Tony be playing ’second fiddle’ again?

AP – Outgoing British Prime Minister Tony Blair will be named on Wednesday as special envoy for the international diplomatic Quartet on the Middle East with a portfolio focused on Palestinian economic and political reform, a senior U.S. official said.

It’s all so aggravating.

I understand that the war on drugs is a retarded excuse to build up the military industrial complex and spread imperialism, but lets be honest. Cutting off funding for the “enemy” is basic strategy. Poppy production funds the Talaban and Al Qaida. There was a point at which poppy production could have been mitigated through economic incentive (lets remember drugs are forbidden in islam, which would have been a huge incentive to generate an alternative income for a lot of those farmers). If the Bush administration had even tried to reduce the drug trade, there could have been a good result. I guess I expect our foreign policy people to be practical.

perris @ 106

I believe I read that Gore said impeachment for bush was a mistake

think he’s changed his mind yet?

The thing is, if they try to impeach, but can’t get the votes, it makes the Dems look weak. The Repubs will have to really get on board with it to be sure it is successful, otherwise it is not productive.

From the Raw Story story on Kissinger:LINK

…

According to Monica Gabrielle, who lost her husband Richard in the attacks and who was present as part of the 12-member 9/11 Family Steering Committee during the private meeting, the White House seems to have overlooked Dr. Kissinger’s apparent conflict of interest.

“We had the meeting with him… the whole Steering Committee, all 12 of us. Because we are basically doing our due diligence and asking for his client list to be released to see if there was a conflict of interest between his client list and potential areas of investigation,” said Gabrielle during a Tuesday morning phone conversation, recounting the events of December 12, 2002. “We went back and forth with him, discussing his client list… asking him who was on it, if there were conflicts and so forth,” she continued.

“Lorie [Van Auken] asked, do you have any Saudi clients on your list? And he got a blank look. Then Lorie asked, do you have any clients by the name of Bin Laden? And he was stuttering and mumbling, and finally said he would maybe, possibly consider releasing the client list to an attorney but not for the public.”

Dr. Kissinger did not reveal his client list but withdrew his name the next day without public explanation.

…

Somewhat OT:

I don’t get it. The Wapo is exposing Cheney(hooo, perish the thought). That’s against nature for this Neocon haven. My question is wich Neocon decided that Cheney was leaving??? Could Daddy Bush have decided to save what’s left of the Bush Legacy? Who’s behind this Cheney fracas?

from Howie’s article:

Many have suspected that Abramoff has been supplying federal investigators with information about his former congressional crony____ – fill in the blanks.

I can smell the fear emanating from Rep. Don Young’s office, uh, trophy room growing as every tidbit from Jack’s cell leaks out.

Interesting item near the end of Froomkin’s column:

Armando Acuna, the Sacramento Bee’s public editor, writes that letters to the editor supporting Bush have become a rare commodity. “Last August and September, [Bill Moore, the paper’s letters editor] noticed what he calls a ’sea change,’ a significant drop in letters supporting the president.

“And it has remained that way ever since.”

Not surprising the WH would “overlook” Kissinger’s client list. George probably knew who was on the list. Kissinger probably would have headed the 9/11 panel off into the deep swamp.

Speaking of phones humming… it seems to take forever for the operator to pick up the phone–and senator lugar’s voice mailbox is FULL! (I take this as a good sign because it’s hard to believe all that many people would call to encourage the suspension of habeas corpus.)

via Raw Story:

Rove whistleblower’s house ‘burned down’

Brief excerpt from Harpers claims terrible fate of Alabama whistleblower

after her intention to speak became known, Simpson’s house was burned to the ground, and her car was driven off the road and totaled. Clearly, there are some very powerful people in Alabama who feel threatened.

selise @ 93

Steve @ 87

At the end of the day it’s “who is the Dem that can get elected”. If we don’t get the Presidency in ‘09, this country is fucked; and it may be any way but at least there is a chance.

not this time. ‘cuz we don’t know who can get elected (been there done that – and we lost).

this time i think we need to concentrate on who we think will make the best president. best thing for the country… and otherwise i fear a low voter turnout and a possible third party challenge to split the vote.

Gore scores on both counts..after that I don’t know..but we don’t need another Dukakis..we have got to have the DOJ after 01/20/09.

Quebecois @ 112

Somewhat OT:

I don’t get it. The Wapo is exposing Cheney(hooo, perish the thought). That’s against nature for this Neocon haven. My question is wich Neocon decided that Cheney was leaving??? Could Daddy Bush have decided to save what’s left of the Bush Legacy? Who’s behind this Cheney fracas?

The traditional republicans (not the neo-cons, the military/industrial/corporate whores of today) have refused to let their ideology die. And, yes, if I had to guess, I would say that Papa Bush and his crew or another set of old school republicans have stepped in.

Oklahoma kiddo @ 73

At the end of the day, Gore is the one.

keep that thot.

it’s premature to give up on it, eh?

(saw yer admission in re Mrs. C above)

;->

leinie @ 44

Wordsmith, I didn’t know the evil little Chipmunk was coming to town. Looking for a safe haven, eh?

I see that Grant and Hansen have called for his resignation.

Keep us posted on what he does.

I’m sure it was known in some circles. The function and activities of the two hospitals right here cannot be impeded or interrupted, especially St. Luke’s.

Over at Raw Story there is a nice piece about Sam Fox the man who Bush recessed appointed to Belgium.
He cant get paid! LOL
http://rawstory.com/news/2007/….._0626.html

parsleysage @ 116

Speaking of phones humming… it seems to take forever for the operator to pick up the phone–and senator lugar’s voice mailbox is FULL! (I take this as a good sign because it’s hard to believe all that many people would call to encourage the suspension of habeas corpus.)

Does anyone else have any reports of incoming-line over-usage in Congresscritterville today?

Would LOVE to hear updates, please.

RonD @ 71

Bluetoe #53,
Not far-fetched at all, but IMO, won’t happen anytime soon. Thre’s just not any kind of general uprising among the population that would call for that kind of response, and I doubt we’re going to see that many prosecutions to begin with. Not that they aren’t deserved-just that the clock is ticking. Even though Bush’s polls are in the tank, most people I talk to just think he’s a bad President-the degree of criminality involved is missed, except by those paying close attention.
RJH has been writing about Blackwater lately at her site here.

Thanks for the link. I don’t think Blackwater would be in tanks and trucks rolling down Main Street but more along the lines of special ops that target dissents or pols that the right wing fears and detests. After all, these folks are mercennairies. For some it’s just another job. The right wing is definitely in decline but don’t think they will go down without a fight. Does anyone doubt that the Republican Party is not willing to play dirty? Whatever it takes?

Remember the recent Bandar Bush story about bribes and Cheney and Bush and the Brits, and the fact that there is an ongoing investigation about all this right now….

From Rawstory:

“At the time he was hemming and hawing over the book deal, Tenet received the Presidential Medal of Freedom, Tyler notes, but Tenet insists that’s simply a coincidence.

Tenet wasn’t “clear on what conversations he’d had with members of the Bush family during the 18-month interval between actions,” the article notes.

Former Saudi ambassador Prince Bandar also hyped speculation of a Bush intervention in the publication delay.

“I knew President Bush called him,” Bandar, a close friend of Tenet, told Tyler. “The question is: Was it 41 or 43?”

Why is Bandar throwing the Bush’s and Tenet under the bus?? Bandar knows everything related to the run up to…well…everything.

EPU’d on purpose…

As I watched Hank Johnson present his statement about the corporate shame that is NFL Football disability program describing these “Young Warriors that gave their all ” I was struck by why wasn’t this hearing about our other Warriors in Iraq that face a similar future?

BTW if it hasn’t been already noted, Richard Lugar has bailed on Bush’s Iraq policy. Of course, being a Republican and so not having a conscience, this doesn’t mean he won’t continue to vote for it.

OT sorta — although criticism of BushCo LLC is never really OT. Tin-foil hat time here and too tired and lazy to Google. So, off the top of some of you smart pups heads here……

Toxic levels of asbestos in air at Gound Zero. As CEO of Halliburton, Cheney purchases Dresser Industries which I believe had tons of asbestos liability. Any connection between Dresser and WTC 1 and 2?

Apologies for OT

Speaking of folks about to get their just deserts,anyone know when the next shoe will drop in “Valerie Plame Wilson and Joseph Wilson IV v. I. Lewis ‘Scooter’ Libby, et al?” Seems to me that something is scheduled for late June and June is running into July.

> I need a flow chart to keep up with who is being investigated for what.

That would be nice.

The Rove/Gonzales machine telegraphed exactly which investigations they’re most afraid of by firing Carol Lam. They wouldn’t take this risk, IMHO, unless she was pursuing threads that lead to the White House.

So what I would really like to see is a tree diagram or flow chart of where Lam’s investigation was leading — who was implicated and under investigation, and for what, when she had to leave.

I wish I had the knowledge and resources to do this myself, but alas.