Saturday's NYT has an op ed in which the Times' former Seattle correspondent, Timothy Egan, reminds us of the wonderful heritage conservation-minded Presidents like Teddy Roosevelt left us by preserving and protecting federal lands and creating national parks and wild life sanctuaries. Almost every President since then has done something to expand or enhance this irreplaceable heritage, creating new parks and preserves, protecting endangered species and their habitats, cleaning up water and air pollution, and increasing public access without harming the treasures that belong to all Americans. Most Presidents, that is, except President Bush, who from the day he took office has given the keys to our national treasures to industries bent on destroying this heritage for short-run profit.
Egan's op ed is behind Times Select, so I'll give you the key excepts. Egan first revisits national forest lands originally protected 100 years ago by Teddy Roosevelt's first chief of the forest service, Gifford Pinchot:
"In the national forests, big money was not king," wrote Pinchot. The Forest Service was beloved, he said, because "it stood up for the honest small man and fought the predatory big man as no government bureau had done before."A century later, I drove through the Gifford Pinchot National Forest on my way to climb Mount Hood, and found the place in tatters. Roads are closed, or in disrepair. Trails are washed out. The campgrounds, those that are open, are frayed and unkempt. It looks like the forestry equivalent of a neighborhood crack house.
In the Pinchot woods, you see the George W. Bush public lands legacy. If you want to drill, or cut trees, or open a gas line — the place is yours. Most everything else has been trashed or left to bleed to death.
I grew up in the West, and every summer my folks would take us camping in the West's magnificent parks and monuments -- vast places with beautiful forests or mountains with astonishing canyons and rock formations, awe inspiring rivers and waterfalls, and wildlife everywhere. In later years, with my own kids, there were trips to Yosemite or up the California/Oregon coasts or into the great parks in the Northwest. I still remember that drive in the Oregon mountains that leads to a wonder lodge near the top of -- was it Mt Hood?? -- and I suddenly realized that all these years we'd been taking advantage of this incredible heritage left by those who came before us.
And the people who did this for us weren't rich folks or elitist benefactors. No, they were the American people, who during the Depression when the whole country was broke and flat on its back, listened to FDR, put fear behind them, and put themselves to work building thousands of bridges, and trails up the canyons and steps with railings back to the waterfalls, or built these amazing lodges high up on mountains so that ordinary Americans could stop, take a break and look out across this awesome country. They did that for us because they cared about us, the country's future, and they didn't want to see these amazing resources squandered or destroyed by greed.
We owe them. We owe them big time, and not just a "thank you," with a plaque, but an ever renewing commitment to preserve what they did and do the same thing for those who will come after us. But right now, we have a problem.
Remember the scene from “It’s a Wonderful Life,” when Jimmy Stewart’s character sees what would happen to Bedford Falls if the richest man in town took over? All those honky-tonks, strip joints and tenement dwellings in Pottersville?If Roosevelt roamed the West today, he’d find some of the same thing in the land he entrusted to future presidents. The national wildlife system, started by T.R., has been emasculated. President Bush has systematically pared the budget to the point where, this year, more than 200 refuges could be without any staff at all.
The Bureau of Land Management, which oversees some of the finest open range, desert canyons and high-alpine valleys in the world, was told early on in the Bush years to make drilling for oil and gas their top priority. A demoralized staff has followed through, but many describe their jobs the way a cowboy talks about having to shoot his horse.
In Colorado, the bureau just gave the green light to industrial development on the aspen-forested high mountain paradise called the Roan Plateau. In typical fashion, the administration made a charade of listening to the public about what to do with the land. More than 75,000 people wrote them — 98 percent opposed to drilling.
For most of the Bush years, the Interior Department was nominally run by a Stepford secretary, Gale Norton, while industry insiders like J. Steven Griles — the former coal lobbyist who pled guilty this year to obstruction of justice — ran the department.
Same in the Forest Service, where an ex-timber industry insider, Mark Rey, guides administration policy.
They don’t take care of these lands because they see them as one thing: a cash-out. Thus, in Bush’s budget proposal this year, he guts the Forest Service budget yet again, while floating the idea of selling thousands of acres to the highest bidder. The administration says it wants more money for national parks. But the parks are $10 billion behind on needed repairs; the proposal is a pittance.
This past week, Christy wrote powerful, moving essays about what this regime has done to our country, from its catastrophic foreign interventions and its shameful torture and detention policies to its desecration of the Constitution, the rule of law and the administration of justice. As Christy says, we know we have to figure out a way to deal with this bunch of hoodlums who have captured our government and have the country by the throat and are now making up ever more preposterous arguments that they're above the law. Everyone else here, posters and commenters alike, has been highlighting some outrage or another, in a never ending string of lawlessness, arrogance, unethical behavior and sheer stupidity on the part of this regime.
But I think we're being too polite. A beltway pundit with exquisite insider sensibilities once remarked that Bill Clinton came into the White House and, by his personal behavior, "trashed the place." But we have an Administration in power now that is deliberately trashing the whole country, day in, day out, and none of these oh-so-sensitive pundits is demanding that they stop.
What would that earlier generation, who selflessly gave us so much, have done? I suspect if this White House crowd had tried, decades ago, to trash the public works that generation had just built and left for their children and grandchildren, they would have been pretty upset. And if we told them that the Constitution and freedoms they fought for and protected in World War II had also been trashed by this White House, well . . . We owe them, we owe them big time.
(Photo of Teddy Roosevelt and John Muir at Yosemite via the Library of Congress, c. 1903.)
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g’mornin scarecrow, hope slept well…now to read teh post
HMMM, blind squirrel strikes.
Good morning Scarecrow!
Cheerios with strawberries this morning?
judging from the wapo piece it seems like some patriots have found their wings and the purge has begun
my personal theory is the expose of cheney’s depravity was done largely by the cia…payback for Mrs. Wilson
came to me all of a sudden and I posted this one chapter ago;
you know that fitz was commisioned because of a direct request from the cia right?
the president tried to shove her exposure under the rug, the cia would have none of that
well, the CIA obviously had stuff to hold over Bush’s head in order to get the investigation
you know how I said I couldn’t believe the cia would be satisfied with a libby conviction, they wanted the archtech of that treason?
errr…libby is not the object of their justice
me thinks the bill is being called
Good morning Scarecrow! Returning home tomorrow. Miss you guys.
Chimpenfuhrer is an Eco-Not
yeah, they’re trashing the place… time to clean up.
congressional hearing weekly update:
1) William W. Mercer’s nomination has been withdrawn… so i guess that means no hearing.
2) on tuesday, at 2 pm, a House Judiciary subcommittee will hold an Oversight Hearing on Habeas Corpus and Detentions at Guantanamo Bay
Another busy week, with lots of congressional hearings. here is a partial list.
p.s. i made the list on saturday. so if any hearings have been added since then, i probably missed them. please let me know if anything needs to be added/corrected. thanks!
good mornin egregious..safe travel 2 u
Good morning, everyone. Anyone been to any of the national parks/monument/wildereness areas lately? What are you seeing.
also, expect we’ll be spending some time on the latest WaPo article on Cheney. Looks like a fleet of buses coming.
Chris Matthews, right-wing vs. left-wing and a lesson on women.
egregious @ 6
Save travel, egregious. And be safe; you’re a treasure.
Hold it tween the ditches EG!
Scarecrow @ 10
as in “everyone is throwing everone under the bus” ?
WaPo reporter Gellman saying upcoming series on Chee-knee will show he had much more influence on environmental matters than previously thought….
Not around the Lake.
The Darth Lord is the snake in the Garden. The Voice in the Wilderness….
selise @ 8
Thanks for the hearings list. The habeas event looks pretty important.
Prairie Sunshine @ 15
Yeah, it would have been nice to have that. Would love to have a peek inside the Cheney Energy Task Force machinations.
Scarecrow @ 16
worth keeping an eye on.
btw, i think i’ve got it figured out… i can use 4 links without tripping the filter… hence the short list here with a link to the longer one…
Scarecrow @ 17
Well since he’s not a part of the executive branch, there goes executive privilege so maybe we will…
dakine01 @ 19
Well, I’m sure there’s a 4th branch privilege; did you get Addington’s memo?
Scarecrow @ 10
not yet this summer… still trying to figure out where to take my nephews..
Barton Gellman was just on Imus-for-a-day.
My EPU’d take:
Rehash of article so far.
Exactly. The only new thing I picked up is that Gellman seems to personally have no problem with Cheney at all. “We’re not in the judging business.”
The man seems unaware of what he’s written - or perhaps someone has already had a good ‘talk’ with him already.
Sounds like the next two installments are gonna be about the ‘good Cheney’, or at least the extent to which he doesn’t always get his way.
thanks for this Scarecrow.
It’s worse than depraved.
‘Morning, FirePups! Nice post, Scarecrow; I think both of the Roosevelts did right by us on conservation — Teddy, by way of the park system, and FDR, by way of the CCC. Two generations of Americans learned to see our public lands as treasures.
My spouse mentioned Lady Bird Johnson last night, too, her efforts to beautify our national countryside made a big impression on him even though a right-leaning moderate. He mourned the undoing of her work, rather surprised me. One more example of the selling out of America to corporate interests that even the wingers may understand.
Your photo at the head of your article is of Roosevelt and John Muir, not Pinchot. Pinchot ADVOCATED timber-cutting on National Forests, something that Muir opposed.
Stephen Saltonstall @ 25
See the photo credit at the bottom of the post.
With regards to the enviroment, Bush is following in the footsteps of Saint Ronnie Reagan.
Remember James Watt, Secretary of the Interior (and also a crook)?
jayt at 22 — I also heard Gellman on MSNBC, and I took away a completely different perception. The man is a journalist, first of all, and a good one who takes his job seriously and can’t get into partisan blather on a talk show because it would discredit his reporting and cut him off from his sources, among other reasons. And I got the impression that the energy and taxation information coming up will be as explosive as what’s been on the page the last coupla days in terms of who is speaking up now. Gellman has done some exceptional work on intel. issues in the past — and I think perris may be correct that the CIA may have had a hand in feeding some of the exposure information on Cheney for this. Especially on the energy issue alone, this could get very, very interesting…
Hi,
it hurts to read about how life seems to have developed in Oregon over the last 30 years. When I was a post-graduate at UofO in Eugene, Ore. in 1975 I enjoyed hiking and backpacking more than anything else. I saw Mount Hood (!), Crater Lake, we crossed the Kalamyopsis Wilderness and much more. And it was all absolutely magnificent, well preserved and we always met park rangers who were wonderful people doing a great job for nature and for us, its admirers.
As I said- it hurts to read this post!
BTW, Alfred Kelgarries did yeoman’s work on the Angler-Part II in the Late Late Nite thread, completely dissected it from a former spook’s perspective. Most excellent.
My take, as posted in EPU zone:
– Poppy had enough and worries for HIS legacy, not merely Dubya’s (this series is Poppy taking off the gloves, likely with Baker’s help);
– CIA highly motivated to aid Poppy (read: gave him the weaponry);
– The succession plan is as suggested in previous threads: Condi gets the hand off;
– We are now free to seek impeachment of both Cheney and Gonzo.
I am thinking that Fred Thompson’s time in the spotlight is dwindling, too. There will be something nasty that emerges before January 2009 about him. By that I mean Fred had Cheney’s blessing, and that blessing is now a curse.
Let the purge begin.
Scarecrow @ 10
Wednesday’s write-up is supposed to cover Darth’s “envirnomental” impacts…
Part 2-Cheney out here….
Buchanan just said, “When Cheney took over!”
Stephen at 25 — Which would be why the photo caption at the bottom of the article says “Teddy Roosevelt and John Muir,” eh?
I am curious, does anyone have the feeling that Cheney may have been responsible for leaking details of last weekend’s meeting on closing Gitmo? Why I ask is that it seems to mimic his style, selectively leaking to benefit his cause.
Rayne @ 24
and Rockefeller Standard Oil money — Grand Tetons for instance.
Would today’s Exxon executives, et al, return any of their profits for the greater good, and the future?
Scarecrow @ 10
Just spent the weekend at Squam Lake in NH right next to a forestry preservation area. Beeuutiful!
The area was spotless and I mean nary a plastic bag or budwe***r can. It was quiet, peaceful, and warm. No telephone, no teevee no computer (no FDL damnit ). Long walks, good steaks and superb wine. This, however was a NH State preservation area not a Fed area.
Now it is back to reality or what passes for reality these days.
I love Muir Woods National Park in CA. What a gift it was to walk through an ancient forest. One of the best days of my life.
I also have fond memories of Zion National Park in UT. Another great treasure.
PS Thank you Scarecrow for great post
Bush likes to kill. Whether it’s Mother Earth, animals, plants or people. And I do not hear much from the front runners on the environment.
Gore!
FFFH allows Emily Yoffe to do a hack job on Al Gore in today’s WaPo0. Seems she isn’t real happy about all the global warming fuss.
Kohler-Andrea state park on Lake Michigan was pristine. [Sheboygan WI]
But my good friend who works in a forest in central Ohio says what the feds have done to the national park system is making them all cry. This is from someone who is pretty conservative in general.
We may indeed have our wedge issue here.
p.s. Why do I have so many conservative female friends?
Christy Hardin Smith @ 28
makes me wonder what rizzo (cia lawyer) told the senate intelligence committee in the closed hearing last week
Wasn’t it Reagan, the present prez’s hero who said “when you’ve seen one Redwood, you’ve see ‘em all”?
Millineryman @ 38
There’s nothing like either anywhere else on the planet, which is the point really.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 44
He’s the one, back when there were proposals to clear “old growth”.
Mother Earth’s health is paramount. Without this, all else is meaningless. How many tons of pollution per day does the Iraq occupation dump into the air?
selise at 43 — I’ve heard conflicting things about Rizzo, none of which I’ve been able to confirm as yet. One of the things that I’m hearing is that he provided push-back against Cheney behind the scenes. Could be true, could be personal revisionism on his behalf — am still trying to chase that one down. Interesting, though, that it’s even being floated…
“But we have an Administration in power now that is deliberately trashing the whole country, day in, day out…”
Some might call it capitalism or the inevitable results of progress. I think it looks more like serial rape.
Scarecrow @ 46
Which is a great idea, just look at how beautiful the Pocono Mountains are, and the Coal Region. Clear cut and strip mined long ago, yet to this day, the area’s a depressing chronic blight. Not something we should be spreading about the nation, or the globe.
Still reading the WaPo article on Cheney’s attorneys and the meeting to decide torture issues and their impact on court decisions. Gonzales was completely worthless; pathetic.
Offtopic:
Live chat with Barton Gellman at 1pm. At the WaPo.
Laura Rozen has a reader who thinks there was an editorial bigfoot adding “balance” to the Cheney story.
I really, very really, dislike Louisiana Pacific and Georgia Pacific.
re WaPo on cheney, part 2:
i thought this bit was interesting (my bold):
for an administration known for keeping it’s secrets - that’s a flood of people willing to talk.
Elliott @ 50
I am hearing you.
Ford Prefect @ 35
When I heard it, my interpretation was that the meeting was canceled when it was leaked to Cheney, despite reporting that it was somehow because it was leaked to the public. Why should public knowledge of the existence of the meeting cause it to be canceled? It makes no sense, and yet they presented it as if it required no further explanation.
I think whoever convened the meeting was hoping to have a fait accompli, and once it was public and they knew Cheney knew about it, they gave up. So I don’t think Cheney leaked it (it would have been better for his cause if no one ever knew it was being considered), but I do think that his people leaked the cancellation, as a warning to others.
nomolos @ 37
NH state parks aren’t always so hot. Had a great time in West Virginia state parkes in early spring.
And what’s with the Lake Winnipesaukee Amex ads?
BushCo’s “trashing the place” is another one of their crimes against humanity — and nature.
What’s left of the Redwoods? About 10-20% old growth. Perhaps we should build a Redwood zoo.
Scarecrow @ 10
Spent some time in Zion National Park last month. The beauty of the place was nothing short of unearthly.
-MS
Who was it said “trees produce pollution”?
Michael in Park Slope @ 60
it’s magic there
One last offtopic note:
The General finds that Glenn Greenwald is righter than we knew–we HAVE always been at war with alqaeda.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 61
Dunno, Inhofe?
The prediction here is that when Gore declares, he will attract the green vote as does velvet to lint.
this is not good.
hope he’s wrong. but if it’s the FCNL’s analysis… it’s not likely.
Some of my family’s happiest memories were formed in the U.S. National Parks — from Acadia in Maine to Yellowstone, Grand Canyou, Brice Canyon and so on. The notion that the Administration is granting “Creationism” an equal place in the explication of the Grand Canyon is simply beyond belief and a national disgrace!
———
Here’s an OT EPU’d here from a comment I made a several days back re a “Grab-bag” base-post…
I’m real happy that several ‘Pups are taking part by now. I hope to “see” you all there too. There’s even a ‘PupPoll where you can quickly (and anonymously) cast your vote about possible future FDL formats.
I’ll be repeating this invitation in later comments.
Any Discussion?
“Trees cause more pollution than automobiles do”. Ronald Reagan, 1981.
“A tree is a tree, how many more do you have to look at?”. R.R.
We’re taking our son to California the first week in September to see the remaining redwood forests. We’re flying into San Francisco,renting a car and driving to Cresent City. From there,we’ll be exploring both national and state parks. It’ll be our first trip east of the Mississippi. Hopefully it will only be the first of many trips.(slightly OT,but perhaps more Americans would travel if it weren’t so cost prohibitive,we’ve been saving up for a couple years for this and I’m still freaking out about the cost. If you have a family,it’s not cheap to travel far from home)
One of the best books I’ve read about this topic is called Strangely Like War: The Global Assault on Forests by Derrick Jensen and George Draffan(Draffan’s Railroads and Clearcuts website is a good one,btw). It’s a short book but it gets right to the heart of the depravity of the lumber industry and how our government lets them get away with it. This has been going on since the robber baron days,it’s not new,just more blatant with BushCo at the helm.
Neil @ 64
Another of Ronnie Ray-gunz greatest hits…
anangryoldbroad @ 69
If you get the chance, do spend a bit of time in “The Avenue of the Giants”. ;0)
anangryoldbroad @ 69
The lumber industry killed the hemp industry. It was never a drug issue…that was the shiny object. It was all about the paper.
Perhaps this was excised from my #67ish above because of excess “Ziggurating” — if so, sorry ’bout that. If not, I’d apreciate learning why, either here or in email. Tnx.
Anyone see Barton Gellman on CNN this morning backpeddling like a real tool. I haven’t seen such backpeddling and triangulating since Judy Miller tried to explain Scooters Aspens letter…What a TOOL!
Christy Hardin Smith @ 28
jayt at 22 — I also heard Gellman on MSNBC, and I took away a completely different perception. The man is a journalist, first of all, and a good one who takes his job seriously and can’t get into partisan blather on a talk show because it would discredit his reporting and cut him off from his sources, among other reasons. And I got the impression that the energy and taxation information coming up will be as explosive as what’s been on the page the last coupla days in terms of who is speaking up now. Gellman has done some exceptional work on intel. issues in the past — and I think perris may be correct that the CIA may have had a hand in feeding some of the exposure information on Cheney for this. Especially on the energy issue alone, this could get very, very interesting…
Sorry - I was busy reading today’s installment. I hope you’re right about the coming installments. There’s something coming on energy? Oh boy, that could be huge.
Re: Gellman - if he’s able to purposely project such seeming neutrality after the revelations he’s brought forth so far, then he is indeed much more professional than I would ever be able to be in such a situation. I’d, at the very least, be saying “look, folks, this is important, it is unprecedented, and it is dangerous. Everyone in the U.S. should be aware of what has been, and continues, to be happening inside the WH.”
Franco @ 74
I saw the interview and had a different take. He was careful, staying within the bounds of his article, and had to deal with a weak set of questions from CNN’s interviewer.
Now Georgie. Try to remember. This is the answer to the only question on the test: Trees take in waste (CO2) and give back oxygen. And People need O2.
Ralph Nader has a lot to answer for.
Timberline lodge, a real treasure, is on Mt. Hood.
OK Kiddo,The Avenue of the Giants is on our list. The hubby and I both read Richard Preston’s latest book,The Wild Trees, and switched our plans from visiting Yosemite to northern CA’s forests. Yosemite is our next trip. I’m hoping we can find jobs somewhere out West so we can move and be closer to more mountains and trees(either that or move to the far NE US).
Christy Hardin Smith @ 28
mornin christy
a suggestion if you don’t mind/
do you think you could get larry johnson to do a guest blog here on his analysis?
his blog is great but he doesn’t get the action yours gets, more people would get his work if he posted it here and that would be good for everyone in general and more people would go to his site as well
I’m sure his readers would wind up here and the next time he does tv it will get us some traffic when people do teh google on him
Rayne @ 30
I hope you’re right. It does seem to have the same hands on it as the ISG.
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I saw the interview and had a different take. He was careful, staying within the bounds of his article, and had to deal with a weak set of questions from CNN’s interviewer.
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I agree the questions were very weak. But while I agree he can’t appear partisan, he was not even reiterating the “FACTS” from his article. It appeared to me that he was spinning his own reporting. I feel it made him look like he was backpedaling and therefore has weakened his reporting. Maybe he should stay off the shows and just write!
anangryoldbroad @ 80
There are redwood groves all the way up the California coast into Oregon, and a set of state parks along the way. Just below the Oregon border is a state park that includes a trail that leads down from the highway on a ridge above the coast. You follow switchback trails through the redwoods, ferms and rhododendrons, and then the trail turns into a different climate, with different trees and schrubs, and then another, and another, until you get to the tide pools at the bottom I think it’s the best hike — not too strenuous — on the Coast. Ask the locals.
Nobody asked for suggestions but I read Todd Gitlin’s The Intellectuals and the Flag this weekend and I’d love to see him on the lake to talk about it.
Franco @ 83
The morning shows are never very strong. Since he was on CNN, it’s likely he’ll be on Blitzer later tonight.
Scarecrow, thank you-your posts are always very interesting and enlightening.
Another little tidbit about Teddy Roosevelt: John Muir convinced him to camp in Yosemite (you know, sleep on the ground under the stars) which then resulted in Roosevelt declaring Yosemite a National Park.
The series on Cheney, I hope, will blow the lid off that man’s crimes against the Constitution and our country. Of course, I’m pessimistic about that, but if the CIA really wants payback, it could happen.
Remember, you don’t fuck with the Company.
Hey, angryoldbroad,
Muir Woods. Must-see.
Wearin’ my souvenir T-shirt from last month’s visit this a.m.
Democrats: Do not compromise with this man. “…preserve presidential goals”?
Bush aides consider Iraq truce at Capitol
Wary of more fights, they’re looking into the possibility of a congressional deal to satisfy war foes but preserve presidential goals.
http://www.latimes.com/news/na.....ome-center
raven @ 85
that reformed America would have to manifest by bringing to justice the greates criminals of our generation and possibly the history of planet earth
criminals who’s sole purpose was aquiring the treasure of continents, aquiring evil and selfish global power never before imagined and using war as their tool
when America willingly brings these criminals to justice perhaps there can be a reformation, until then the America will enver regain it’s position as a benevolent broker of human events
Scarecrow @ 84
Indeed.
Mrs. Peterr and I camped our way up and down the N California coast in state parks, but loved the national areas as well. The Golden Gate Recreation Area (Presidio, Marin Headlands, Muir Woods, etc.) is in good shape, although you can tell they are picking and choosing their projects for repairs.
Also, in talking to the rangers, they are woefully understaffed, making due with a great crew of trained volunteers for a lot of support work. That may work for a park near a major metro area, but you’re not going to get that kind of help out in the wilderness parks.
Heckuva job, George.
Is that “beltway pundit with exquisite insider sensibilities” David Broder? Saw him on MTP and he looks so weary.
Redshift,
I am confused because it seems so out of character for Darth Cheney to not have known of the meeting leak. The source of the leak was attributed to an unnamed high ranking administration official. In the short term who benefited most from the cancellation of the meeting?
My personal interpretation is that Cheney’s stonewalling was fruitless and the meeting was leaked to stir up the far right. Romney went on record late last week as being against the closing.
Peterr @ 91
Peterr — do you know that state park and trail I’m talking about? I haven’t been there in years and forgot the name, and the parking for the trail isn’t well marked; you just have to know where it is. My kids used to love the giant banana slugs in the rain forest section near the bottom.
By the way Scarecrow, I love your posts!
Nobody is going to look into the crimes committed by anyone in the WH until Gonzo is gone. Whatever it takes to get rid of him, it better be done and soon. The clock is ticking. Bush and Cheney are already planning the next surge in Iraq. If they stay in power, they will keep abusing it.
Bluetoe @ 92
The very one. He should be tired. Getting the biggest story of the last 50 years dead wrong takes a lot of effort.
musicsleuth @ 82
Yes, and what a coincidence about the reconstitution of the ISG announced this past week, eh?
I believe it to be absolutely essential that the next president be acutely attuned to environmental concerns!
Scarecrow @ 94
It sounds like the Mendocino Coast Botanical Gardens. Actually, it sounds like several places, but that’s the one that came to mind.
last summer I spent a day walking Rogers Canyon in the Superstitions, AZ. Day trip from Phoenix but boy! Amazing scenery and strange cave dwellings.My pal and I were the only guys there all day. A photo is still my pc wallpaper. You guys are so lucky to live in such an empty country. Keep the wilderness as long as you can.
Broder is beyond tired he’s spent.
anangryoldbroad @ 69
Point Reyes (just north of SF on the coast) is worth a stop. Have camped there a few times and it was, well, heavenly.
Christy Hardin Smith @ 28
Barton Gellman is an excellent journalist, who broke the “Bush Was Warned” story about the 9/11 attacks in May of 2002. It was a blockbuster then, and it’s a blockbuster read to this day.
In fact, the resulting firestorm and media feeding frenzy was so huge, Karl Rove had to deploy a single shiny object to defuse the crisis — he conveniently “lost” a CD in Lafayette Park, with the Power Point presentation that made him look like a doofus. End of crisis, and hyperventilating Heathers.
Barton Gellman (and Jonathan Alter of Newsweek) did their jobs — the rest of the MSM was MIA.
Franco @ 95
Thanks, appreciate it. I love the comments on the early a.m. posts. People just gathering news and bringing them to the breakfast table. We’re all still hopeful this time of the day, especially after coffee.
OT: In the fall of 2003, a piece of Rupert Murdoch’s sprawling media empire was in jeopardy.
Mr. Murdoch’s publishing house, had signed a $250,000 book deal to publish Mr. Lott’s memoir, “Herding Cats,” records and interviews show…..
Message to all greens out there: Send messages of support, money, and volunteer time to Gore for president. Please.
Americans should make a pilgrimage to each of our national parks at least once in their lives.
Let’s begin the process of renaming dumps and landfills after Bush and Cheney. It will take some time, but it will be worth the effort.
ccmask @ 106
Rupert Monarch trying to buy the whole media herd. So only his viewpoint will be “herd.”
Scarecrow: you got mail.
Badwater @ 109
I second that emotion
Badwater @ 109
50-State Project.
If they can do it for Ray-gun….
Christy has a new thread up — on Cheney!!
new thread
Christy’s up…rockin’ with power!
makes me wonder what rizzo (cia lawyer) told the senate intelligence committee in the closed hearing last week
Keep in mind that the requests for “enhanced interrogation techniques” that Yoo & Addington signed off on came from CIA and there was one, realistically convincing someone they were being buried alive, that CIA wanted and even Yoo/Addington didn’t sign off on - - who did sign off on it to the extent it was on the requests list?
Yeah.
I am having trouble posting and refreshing on the next thread. How’s this one working?
Oh my,thanks so much to all of you who gave me even more ideas of things to see in N.California. This is gonna be sooo fun.
anangryoldbroad @ 118
You have no idea, AOB. :)
As someone who watched the disintegration of parks, preserves, and forests for over twenty five years I can attest to the sad state that they are in now. The lack of funding is just the tip of the iceberg, but this is a political site not an environmental one so I will not go on except to say that the problem is not just the physical condition of the parks, and the lack of protection for natural and cultural resources, but the management culture the has developed over the years. In the same way that the Army Corps of Engineers mishandled the Kenniwick man site in violation of federal law, and to viewing the mineral resources of the parks as the only important aspect to consider by the politically appointed heads of agencies. The more unusable the parks become the easier it is to exploit the surface and subsurface resources, and only spend a departments limited funds dealing with the needs of high profile parks. But its my second cup of coffee speaking and my feeling that that comes from many years in California where everybody loses the environment until it comes to their home building site or development project.
It’s not just the federal government. Am currently based in a Western ski town, and the locals cater mostly to the rich who cannot build enough mansions. Every hill top with a view is parcelled of and given to the hightest bidder. Most of those ugly ten thousand square foot “homes” are not inhabited year round, but heated, cooled, landscaped even when no one is there. Every local want a piece of the action, most are so-called real estate agents, and what matters is if another “high end” development can be sqeezed into some canyon, and every five minutes another hill top is razed for a foundation.
I should have said loves the environment, sometimes my passions get ahead of my spelling.
I had to watch the destruction of most of southern California in the 70’s, 80’s, and most of Santa Barbara in the 90’s, it breaks the heart, in the western states the development is mind numbing. But where money and greed are involved let nothing stand in the way of my view (of someone else’s mountain palace) besides all my walkway lights are solar powered.
In my life, I have seen corrupt and petty administrations. I’ve seen bigotry and the use of wedge issues against the disenfranchised. I’ve seen arrogance and vindictiveness and stupidity. Nixon’s arrogance and corruption, Johnson’s vindictiveness and stupidity, Reagan’s stupidity all come to mind.
But never in my life have I seen an administration which has no interest whatsoever in governing and whose ONLY purposes are to take and hold power and to reward their friends and punish their enemies. It is really not a government but a criminal enterprise.
They don’t care about the forests except to the extent that one of their cronies can turn them into lumber or paper. They don’t care about rebuilding New Orleans except to the extent that their friends can get no-bid, no-perform contracts. They don’t care about clean air because it will cost their friends money to install anti-pollution equipment. They don’t care about national security except to the extent that their friends can make money off it. They don’t care about state secrets except to cover their tracks or punish their enemies. On every single issue, this is their M.O.
I shouldn’t be shocked anymore, but I still am.
For those of us old enough to remember: It used to be that it was free to enter a national park — Grand Canyon, Bryce, Zion, Yellowstone — all free. Our taxes paid for their upkeep, and we cared enough about our environment to tax ourselves sufficient to the need.
Now we seem to be too greedy, lazy (or perhaps we are afraid of nature — I have a friend who gets nervous if there isn’t asphalt beneath her feet).
I’m going to say this over and over and over until someone gets it through their thick skulls: Is anyone surprised this is what they get when they elect Republicans? They get trashed public lands and poisoned peanut butter.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 59
We should put them in tree museum (a la Joni Mitchell’s Big Yellow Taxi). Then we could charge people to see ‘em.
The whole mess this administration has caused - destroying everything they touch - is a tragedy and makes my heart ache.
Yes! Scarecrow, we are being far too polite! I agree. We do owe that generation. Additionally, we owe it to the future generations and we better get right on it! Right now.