Good Morning!

At least Vichy Joe is a no show.

Morning.

does anyone even listen to ed koch any more?

Where’s all the A-Listers this weeekend?

What, is there a bilderbirger convention going on somewhere that we didn’t hear about?

MUST. DRINK. COFFEE!

GM Christy. Wonderfully pleasant morn in Mich.

Hope all is well for you and your family too!

Re-read Pach’s post. He is on to something. Can we get TRex to teach Mr. Edwards the fine art of snark.

Jus wunderin

G’MORNIN CHRISTY!!

just posted this downstairs and don’t want it missed

here’s the link

here’s some of the story

Shortly after Bush was elected, “Cheney preferred, and Bush approved, a mandate that gave him access to ‘every table and every meeting,’ making his voice heard in ‘whatever area the vice president feels he wants to be active in.’”

the lead says cheney has EVERY room bugged he wants to bug

I WANT TO KNOW IF HE HAS BEDROOMS BUGGED

because if he does, there is NO doubt EVERYONE will want him impeached IMMEDIATELY

once the wheels begin to fall off the entire chasis breaks down

first cheney, if we get cheney out abu torture will feel the weight of his crimes and he will resign INSPITE of what we will find out through the new ag

and once ag goes, bush will give it one more go to cover up his crimes, but it will be obvious a new ag will prefer charges against the president and he will resign pronto

check out this update;

UPDATE: Laura Rozen writes, “Cheney will go to his grave like others before him thinking he was a great patriot who should not be bound by the laws of this country, or the laws of war. But even with all that secret extra-legal power he yielded and bestowed for all these years, he couldn’t show success on any front when it mattered.”

rozen is a moron if she thinks she can make beleive this guy thinks he’s being some kind of patriot

Cheney knows with no doubt he is stealing from this country, he knows with no doubt he has stolen the entire wealth of the middle class which has acrued over generations, he knows with no doubt he has stolen the wealth of all of Iraq, he knows with no doubt he has nearly dismatled our armed forces, he knows with no doubt he has dismantled our Constitution

he is a man who belongs to a SICK and MANIACLE fraternity knowns as the PNAC, they are military MORONS who’s only intention is creating war and then STEALING from that war, cheney is a man who belongs to some kind of FEDELARLIST partt that HATES government and his very purpose is dismantling EVERY successful program that exists

he wants robber baron economics, he DOE NOT want a constitutional government with THREE branches of government and THERE IS NO WAY ON THE PLANET HE THINKS HE IS A PATRIOT

then there was this comment and my response

perris @ 268

solai @ 267

I’m hoping all the ‘Cheney is Evil’ stories will give the Dems the courage to join Kucinich and impeach the bastard. Before it’s too late.
But, another question keeps popping into my head. Where are these stories coming from? Rove? Is Rove trying to take the heat off himself by throwing the veep under the bus? Dastardly bunch we have running the country.

we can get the republicans to join the chant as well

we need to frame this the right way, we need to ASK THE QUESTION;

‘HAS THE VICE PRESIDENT BEEN SPYING IN THE BEDROOMS?’

“HAS THE VICE PRESIDENT BEEN STEALING OUR CORPORATE SECRETS?”

“HAS THE VICE PRESIDENT BEEN LISTENING TO THE PRIVATE CONVERSATION OF OUR WIVES”

“HAS THE VICE PRESIDENT BEEN WATCHING WIVES TAKE SHOWERS”

“HAS THE VICE PRESIDENT BEEN LOOKING UP THE DRESS OF PRESIDENT BUSH’S WIFE?”

“IS THE VICE PRESIDENT IN THE PRESIDENTS BEDROOM WHEN THE PRESIDENT DOESN’T KNOW IT”

the questions HAVE TO GET ASKED and then THE WALLS WILL COME DOWN, I GUARANTEE IT

Yesterday during the Blue America chat I noticed that virtually all my numerous comments were placed into moderation. If the intent was to embarrass me, then the attempt failed.

off for some panera bread and free internet, catch all in about 1/2 hour

Frank Rich in the New York Times, 6/24/07:

“The best way to honor the sixth anniversary of 9/11 will be to at last disarm a president who continues to squander countless lives in the names of those voiceless American dead. “

Why wait until September? Stop the Bush/Cheney/Rove murder machine NOW. Crank up the congressional oversight machinery, smoke out even more of their spin, lies, bullshit and criminal behavior–which is obvious to everyone but a large part of the complicit MSM and of course the 29 percenters, the Neocon fascists who are waiting for the rapture.

Kagro X from Kos and Robert Bluey on CSPAN Washington Journal now…

Why can’t we have Marcy on Booknotes again this week? That sure was more pleasurable than what we’ve got this week!

perris @ 7

rozen is a moron if she thinks she can make beleive this guy thinks he’s being some kind of patriot

laura rozen is no moron. just the opposite. i highly recommend her reporting and her blogging – outstanding.

p.s. have your read this post of glenn’s?

Newshounds had a good one on the appearance of Harold Ford of the DLC n Fox News. I’m just like “And WHY does the DLC exist?!?! Why? Why? Why?”
DLC’s a bunch of dang DINOs. Can we drum ‘em outta the party?

Rich @ 14

Newshounds had a good one on the appearance of Harold Ford of the DLC n Fox News. I’m just like “And WHY does the DLC exist?!?! Why? Why? Why?”
DLC’s a bunch of dang DINOs. Can we drum ‘em outta the party?

Good question.

I didn’t read anything about Cheney bugging the rooms. Where is that?

For those who think Hillary would be a good choice for prez as a result of the Senator’s pronouncements about how she’ll fix health care, I ask you: How can the second largest recipient of money (SiCKO) from the health care industry (Clinton) say this with a straight face?

why am i listening to wingnuts on c-span this am?

two in a row making a big deal out of obama’s middle name.

sigh.

I have to ask myself. Who has who wrapped around their little finger. Is it Hillary who has the DLC wrapped, or the other way ’round? Or perhaps a little of both.

Oklahoma kiddo @ 17 –

i am throughly unenthusiastic about all of our candidates.

until i look at the republicans… then kucinich and possibly edwards start looking ok.

scarey when i think an R (ron paul) might be less dangerous than some Ds (like clinton).

if i wasn’t so worried about the usa attacking iran, my calculations would be quite different… but after last weeks vote on h.con.r.21 – the dems have got me almost as spooked as cheney.

What’s catching your eye on the blogs or in the news this morning?

This:
Unseen Al Gore Campaign video
Others here may have seen this long ago but it was new to me. They took so much away from us when they stole the election, so much.

selise @ 18

why am i listening to wingnuts on c-span this am?

two in a row making a big deal out of obama’s middle name.

sigh.

;0)

solai @ 16

I didn’t read anything about Cheney bugging the rooms. Where is that?

I see it in this ThinkProgress headline: Washington Post Profile Reveals Stealthy Cheney Spies On White House Staffers

I hope the Dem Candidates and all office holders raise hell over Cheney’s odious power grab. They should promise to return the Vice Presidency to it’s proper place as ‘the spare tire of the government’. This should be made an issue: since when the the Vice President get to be KING?

And, the entity formerly known as The Vice President leaves the planet at
http://imissfaf.blogspot.com/

And BTW, I watched “Sicko” last night (bootleg version) and I have to say it’s powerful, powerful stuff. His best yet by far.

noen @ 21

What’s catching your eye on the blogs or in the news this morning?

This:
Unseen Al Gore Campaign video
Others here may have seen this long ago but it was new to me. They took so much away from us when they stole the election, so much.

;0)

Morning, folks. It’s been a nice, relatively cool weekend in OH.

Let me be once again clear on this. I will support the nominee of my party to be the next Democratic president of the United States.

Stephen Parrish, CPA @ 23

solai @ 16

I didn’t read anything about Cheney bugging the rooms. Where is that?

I see it in this ThinkProgress headline: Washington Post Profile Reveals Stealthy Cheney Spies On White House Staffers

the article says he can bug anything he wants;

Shortly after Bush was elected, “Cheney preferred, and Bush approved, a mandate that gave him access to ‘every table and every meeting,’ making his voice heard in ‘whatever area the vice president feels he wants to be active in.’”

this is rediculous and there is NO WAY they can make believe that mandate doesn’t include bedrooms

Stephen Parrish, CPA @ 23

solai @ 16

I didn’t read anything about Cheney bugging the rooms. Where is that?

I see it in this ThinkProgress headline: Washington Post Profile Reveals Stealthy Cheney Spies On White House Staffers

But there’s no info that he actually bugs the offices, is there? He’s doing something to find out what everyone is up to but no evidence that he’s using listening devices. More likely a network of spies. Is that how you read it?

Is Bush declaring a coup d’état?

coup d’état
A sudden and decisive change of government illegally or by force

Because that is what it sounds like to me. He is exempting himself and the office of the VP from the law. He considers himself and Cheney to be beyond oversight and is therefore declaring himself dictator. That is what I understood the concept of a “Unitary Executive” to be all along anyway. I guess I am asking if others think this might be a sort sly declaration or maybe a trial balloon. What do you think?

It doesn’t have to be an outsider overthrowing a government. It can also be an inside move to illegally seize power. This is what I believe Bush is openly declaring. I could be wrong of course.

What’s catching your eye on the blogs or in the news this morning?

everyone here has probably already read the first chapter on cheney yesterday, but i just read it this morning.

also bombing in afghanistan and pakistan.

some background on h.con.r.21 here.

solai @ 30

But there’s no info that he actually bugs the offices, is there? He’s doing something to find out what everyone is up to but no evidence that he’s using listening devices. More likely a network of spies. Is that how you read it?

it specifically says he has a mandate to spy on whatever he wants to spy

it doesn’t matter if it specifically says “bedrooms”

what I’m saying is the question NEEDS to be asked, EVERY time a democrat is broaching the subject, EVERY time the discussion is raised democrats have to LAUGH at the notion that this vice president has ANY intergrity and LAUGH at the suggestion that he WOULDN’T be spying in bedrooms

we need to start the dialogue as if it’s a fact because it doesn’t matter if he is or isn’t, all that matters is he CAN

THIS VICE PRESIDENT THINKS HE CAN DO ANYTHING HE WANTS TO DO

this is either interesting… or part of the effort to demonize iran in prep for war. maybe both.

EVIDENCE against the Lockerbie bomber was fabricated and manipulated on both sides of the Atlantic, according to leaked defence documents which appear to undermine the conviction of Abdelbaset Ali Mohmed al-Megrahi.

Investigators for Megrahi claim to have compelling new evidence of widespread tampering with evidence, missing or overlooked statements, and a concerted attempt to lead investigators away from the original Iranian-backed suspects and towards Libya.

Yesterday Tweety — right out of thin air — announced “I like Hillary.”

WTF?!?!!!!

Now this is the same man who was sure she was an evil lesbian who was conniving with her rapist hubster to take over the world, had committed all manner of crimes in “Whitewater” (the Republican party’s most popular “thrill ride”) and undoubtedly murdered her lover Vincent Foster during sex — even while maintaining her status as a lesbian.

And now “I like Hillary.”

What’s going on? Simple. The election is over and she’s POTUS.

Scum-sucking bottom-feeders lime Tweety don;t want to be on the bad side of those in the driver’s seat. So watch carefully as the Massive Ass-Kissing Orgy begins.

DHP on C-Span?

Is he going to talk about Alzheimers? The Tony? Glbt issues?

Somebody make clips and put them up here.

I got my new desk delivered yesterday and my son has finished putting it together. BLOGGER DESK

And, I must say, I love it!! The trays tilt both ways so you can use it on either side and it has wheels. I have 1 17″ laptop and it swims on the tray. Great deal.

David Ehrenstein @ 35

Yesterday Tweety — right out of thin air — announced “I like Hillary.”

WTF?!?!!!!

Weather vanes will do that.

ccmask @ 36

I got my new desk delivered yesterday and my son has finished putting it together. BLOGGER DESK

HMMM…not bad, looks protable too…thing is I sort of LIKE the warm feeling my laptop provides to the region neer my lap

so depressing… listening to c-span now… the callers to Ahmed Yousef are horrible. last one was lecturing him on how the land belonged to the jews and palestinians had no right to live even in the west bank or gaza.

perris @ 39

ccmask @ 36

I got my new desk delivered yesterday and my son has finished putting it together. BLOGGER DESK

HMMM…not bad, looks protable too…thing is I sort of LIKE the warm feeling my laptop provides to the region neer my lap

Yeah, well my problem is I just have to use a USB mouse. I’m just not good with the laptop mouse. I’m all thumbs and I also get tired of moving my cords around. Now, all I need is a bed pan.

“Oh, and Ed Koch and Ed Rollins will talk about how their political wisdom is better than anyone else’s.”

John Cameron Mitchell’s magnificent Shortbus died the death in theaters. Nobody knew what to do with a film about (and with) sex that wasn’t a porno. Rather it’s as political a piece of work as Sicko. Happily it’s now on DVD.

BUY IT!

I bring it up in this context because there’s a character who is a “former Mayor” that’s clearly Ed Koch. He apologizes for not coming out and for not dealing with the AIDS epidemic (which, BTW, is NOT OVER. You have to read obits as carefully today as you did back in the mid-80’s when the bodies started piling up) more forcefully.

selise @ 40

so depressing… listening to c-span now… the callers to Ahmed Yousef are horrible. last one was lecturing him on how the land belonged to the jews and palestinians had no right to live even in the west bank or gaza.

Go feed the birds for a little while selise. Works wonders for me.

OK, it’s early and I just can’t link. Still, the gop.com blog page for postings about the vice president is blank. BLANK! Not a single comment.
a-maze-ing.

more on palestine here:

Hamas Overture for Talks Is Rebuffed by Fatah

JERUSALEM, June 23 — A top leader of Hamas, which last week routed its rival, Fatah, from Gaza, called today for talks to re-form a power-sharing Palestinian government. But Fatah leaders, looking forward to a Monday regional summit meeting that excludes Hamas, rebuffed the offer.

“There will be no dialogue with Hamas,” Hussein al-Sheikh, a senior Fatah official, was quoted as saying by the Reuters news agency.

ccmask @ 41

Yeah, well my problem is I just have to use a USB mouse. I’m just not good with the laptop mouse. I’m all thumbs and I also get tired of moving my cords around. Now, all I need is a bed pan.

funny, the laptop mouse has SO MANY functions a real mouse doesn’t have I could never go back to a real moue

we have “tap zones” and you can set any corner of the mouse to do anything you want, launch a program, start a page,go back,go forward, minimize, maximize, middle click…anything

the side bar is like a wheel and it’s just so much more functional I refuse to use a regular mouse

selise @ 13

perris @ 7

rozen is a moron if she thinks she can make beleive this guy thinks he’s being some kind of patriot

laura rozen is no moron. just the opposite. i highly recommend her reporting and her blogging – outstanding.

p.s. have your read this post of glenn’s?

Note Digby’s observations on the escalating Cheney Identity Crisis.
———————-
I really don’t want to belabor this bloggy triumphalism because it is, well, unseemly. But I do have to wonder why in the hell I and other bloggers were writing about the “big story” that was all over the TV today —- five months ago.
——————
Also, Digby reviews a move about dirty freaking hippies.
——————-
Enter Susan (Nadia Litz) a spirited twenty-something pot dealer/budding anarchist who keeps her basket full of some heady shake she calls “B.C. Organic”.

When Dan invites Susan over to make her first pot delivery, she notices and becomes quite intrigued by his extensive library of subversive literature. Dan, who is deliriously baked on the B.C. and flushed by the attention of such an inquisitive young hottie, decides to give Susan a crash course in revolutionary politics, which (hilariously) includes dusting off his old MC5 and Fugs LPs. However, when he loans her his treasured “mint copy” of a book about the Baader-Meinhof Gang, Dan unintentionally triggers a chain of events that will reawaken long dormant passions between himself and Linda (amorous and political) and profoundly affect the lives of all three protagonists.

My son is like you perris. He has all his buttons set to different things. He is a WOW person (World of Warcraft)

noen @ 21

This:
Unseen Al Gore Campaign video
Others here may have seen this long ago but it was new to me. They took so much away from us when they stole the election, so much.

I’m glad you shared the link, but after watching the entire 13 minutes, I’m sad. Not depressed, but truly sad at what was done to this man and our country in 2000.

solai @ 5:58 am -

But there’s no info that he actually bugs the offices, is there? He’s doing something to find out what everyone is up to but no evidence that he’s using listening devices. More likely a network of spies. Is that how you read it?

Since I have not yet read the entire article, it is too soon for me to answer your question.

selise @ 13

perris @ 7

rozen is a moron if she thinks she can make beleive this guy thinks he’s being some kind of patriot

laura rozen is no moron. just the opposite. i highly recommend her reporting and her blogging – outstanding.

p.s. have your read this post of glenn’s?

somehow my comments didn’t come through when I quoted you before

my opologies then to laura however we all say some things that are moronic and this is one from her.

as far as the greenwald article he starts out by saying he has no way of knowing if the bush “good vs evil” is genuine he’s just commenting on the theme

I kind of think it’s obvious this president’s “good vs evil” theme is bull crap and I don’t buy that “he believes it”

I am pretty certain this president doesn’t look at anything as “good vs evil” but “can I get away with it”

AP – Two decades after Iraq’s military laid waste to Kurdish villages, the Iraqi High Tribunal on Sunday sentenced Ali Hassan al-Majid, known as “Chemical Ali,” and two others to death for their roles in the bloody campaign against the restive ethnic minority.

And what of George, Dick, Karl, Condi and Don’s killing of Iraqi women and children?

Gore for ‘08!

I wonder when he will announce. He just has to kiddo!

AP – U.S.-led coalition and NATO forces fighting insurgents in Afghanistan have killed at least 203 civilians so far this year — surpassing the 178 civilians killed in militant attacks, according to an Associated Press tally.

ccmask @ 55

I wonder when he will announce. He just has to kiddo!

;0)

ccmask @ 43

selise @ 40

so depressing… listening to c-span now… the callers to Ahmed Yousef are horrible. last one was lecturing him on how the land belonged to the jews and palestinians had no right to live even in the west bank or gaza.

Go feed the birds for a little while selise. Works wonders for me.

good call.

the hate is getting me down.

see ya later friends.

Good for you selise.

I would like to know how many American children have been left fatherless and motherless as a result of the Bush rampage in Iraq.

Brad blog on http://RadioPower.org talking about Republican e-mails. Otherwise breaking news: an attractive white woman is missing somewhere.

Noonan @ 50

I’m glad you shared the link, but after watching the entire 13 minutes, I’m sad. Not depressed, but truly sad at what was done to this man and our country in 2000.

That is one way to look at it. Another is here is a man of personal integrity. A man you can admire… and he is in the public sphere. That is a good thing that should be celebrated.

After sulfurous fumes a breath of fresh air should be invigorating don’t you think?

David Ehrenstein @ 35

Yesterday Tweety — right out of thin air — announced “I like Hillary.”

WTF?!?!!!!

I wonder if he’s going to say that on his Tuesday show when he has Ann Coulter on.

More than that, there is a palpable hunger among the public for someone who will attack the problems facing the country — the war in Iraq, immigration, energy, health care — and not worry about the politics.

Three guesses who typed this nonsense, and the first two don’t count.

Broder fantasizes about a Bloomberg candidacy.

I’ve seen some outrage – not nearly enough – about Cheney’s newest plan to blantantly break the law, but nowhere have I seen anyone make the connection between this and Alberto Gonzales remaining as the head of the DOJ.

The reason that Cheney can say this stuff is that Gonzo is the head of the DOJ, and as long as he is, no one will enforce the law in the WH. So he CAN do whatever he wants.

Did you see that this matter had been referred to the DOJ a few months ago and that they are still looking into it. Guess when they’ll get around to looking into it. NEVER. When are they going to start prosecuting the Republicans for Abramoff connections. NEVER. When are they going to comply with, or enforce, subpeonas from Congress? NEVER.

The bottom line is, with Alberto Gonzales in power at the DOJ, the WH is above the law and they can and will do whatever they want.

What the hell is Koch doing on? Is he announcing for President, or something?

Morning everyone. Mr. ReddHedd got up with The Peanut and let me sleep in this morning. Just now becoming sentient and drinking coffee…

Frank33 @ 61

Brad blog on http://RadioPower.org talking about Republican e-mails. Otherwise breaking news: an attractive white woman is missing somewhere.

I believe I heard brad on an interview last nite

whoever it was says “paper trail” voting machines are worhtless also, most voters won’t see there vote was “flipped” so the “audit” will show the flipped vote not the intended vots

perris (@ 7):

you’re wrong on one point:

Cheney does believe he is a patriot. Cheney the shithouse rat is a true believer. he and his #1 henchman, Addington. they are our SAVIORS doncha know? they have the special knowledge ……

reading through the WaPoo article on Cheney… does anyone else get the feeling that the dam is starting to break and that Cheney is on his way out? it feels like a very organized effort…

There is a place in Italy where you can get fresh milk from a vending machine. Trouble is, it’s attached to a cow…. They “pull up a chair” in Italy, too. And check out this nude balcony statue on the bottom picture.

Interesting comment at TP about Cheney the Criminal: Wild Cornered Animal Stage is upon us.

broken link lou…

“does anyone else get the feeling that the dam is starting to break and that Cheney is on his way out?”

Isn’t it pretty to think so?

(What’s that from? And did you know it was the proposed title for one of Chuck Wein’s Edie Sedgewick films for Andy back in the Silver Factory Days?)

Just over at “Pravda” reading part one of their multi-part piece on Shooter. The readers are carving the editors new assholes in the comments section. The general theme is “WHERE THE HELL HAVE YOU PEOPLE BEEN FOR THE PAST 8 YEARS?!!!”

OC (# 70):

could be. we’ll get more data in the continuing saga (tomorrow and Tuesday). Alfred K. has more to say on this down below (late, late night). WaPo doesn’t do this kind of extensive writing without the victim getting “the Kiss”. it may be that retaliation will be forthcoming. i’m betting that Karl and Hadley, maybe Condo had better keep their heads down.

the soldiers are dying in Iraq. the war is in America …..

David Ehrenstein @ 74

“does anyone else get the feeling that the dam is starting to break and that Cheney is on his way out?”

Isn’t it pretty to think so?

(What’s that from? And did you know it was the proposed title for one of Chuck Wein’s Edie Sedgewick films for Andy back in the Silver Factory Days?)

Just over at Pravda readign part one of their multi-part piece on Shooter. The readers are carving the editors new assholes in the comments section. The general theme is “WHERE THE HELL HAVE YOU PEOPLE BEEN FOR THE PAST 8 YEARS?!!!”

Pravda on the Hudson, or Pravda on the Potomac?

ccmask @ 73

broken link lou…

What Darth is really up to…Comment #157: http://thinkprogress.org/2007/…..p-profile/

perris @ 68

I believe I heard brad on an interview last nite

whoever it was says “paper trail” voting machines are worhtless also, most voters won’t see there vote was “flipped” so the “audit” will show the flipped vote not the intended vots

There is one absolute certain, secure voting method. Paper ballots and ink, witnessed and counted by hand (although scanners could be used also). Copies of each voter’s ballot can also be given to each voter at the time of voting. (They could be compared to the original if needed in case of dispute.)

E-voting machines are totally evil.

That WaPo profile on Cheney is huge! When am I going to get the time to read that? Looks interesting though. I’ll try.

“Pravda on the Hudson, or Pravda on the Potomac?”

On the Potomac. Home of the irrepressible Woody.

Frank33 @ 78

perris @ 68

I believe I heard brad on an interview last nite

whoever it was says “paper trail” voting machines are worhtless also, most voters won’t see there vote was “flipped” so the “audit” will show the flipped vote not the intended vots

There is one absolute certain, secure voting method. Paper ballots and ink, witnessed and counted by hand (although scanners could be used also). Copies of each voter’s ballot can also be given to each voter at the time of voting. (They could be compared to the original if needed in case of dispute.)

E-voting machines are totally evil.

too true…
but when was the last time a technological ‘iomprovement’ in the public sphere was reversed?

from the Post article on Cheney:

Previous accounts have described Cheney’s adrenaline-charged evacuation to the Presidential Emergency Operations Center that morning, a Secret Service agent on each arm. They have not detailed his reaction, 22 minutes later, when the south tower of the World Trade Center collapsed.

“There was a groan in the room that I won’t forget, ever,” one witness said. “It seemed like one groan from everyone” — among them Rice; her deputy, Stephen J. Hadley; economic adviser Lawrence B. Lindsey; counselor Matalin; Cheney’s chief of staff, Libby; and the vice president’s wife.

Cheney made no sound. “I remember turning my head and looking at the vice president, and his expression never changed,” said the witness, reading from a notebook of observations written that day.

I certainly find that to be – interesting.

Also, I just saw Tim Johnson speaking on CNN. Am unclear whether this was an old or new clip. Is he now healthy enough to return to the Senate?

jayt @ 82

from the Post article on Cheney:

Previous accounts have described Cheney’s adrenaline-charged evacuation to the Presidential Emergency Operations Center that morning, a Secret Service agent on each arm. They have not detailed his reaction, 22 minutes later, when the south tower of the World Trade Center collapsed.

“There was a groan in the room that I won’t forget, ever,” one witness said. “It seemed like one groan from everyone” — among them Rice; her deputy, Stephen J. Hadley; economic adviser Lawrence B. Lindsey; counselor Matalin; Cheney’s chief of staff, Libby; and the vice president’s wife.

Cheney made no sound. “I remember turning my head and looking at the vice president, and his expression never changed,” said the witness, reading from a notebook of observations written that day.

I certainly find that to be – interesting.

Also, I just saw Tim Johnson speaking on CNN. Am unclear whether this was an old or new clip. Is he now healthy enough to return to the Senate?

Dick loves it when a plan comes together. LINK

Morning Christy. Morning Dawgs.

Thanks for your post perris at 7.

Maybe I’m easily impressed. I didn’t used to think so.

But I was absolutely stunned last night to see the WaPo blog take on cheney in such a fashion.
Ended up reading the whole thing right before retiring for the night.

http://blog.washingtonpost.com…..chapter_1/

Made for a fitfull night’s “sleep” in this house.

The MSM finally wake up? or finally regard him as vulnerable because of his weird behavior of late? or they’re finally more afraid of what’ll happen if they continue to be silent and enabling him, than if they finally, at long last, speak out?

Whatever.
Enough is enough.
We don’t need Dr. Strangelove leading this country. Look what he’s “accomplished” already, while MSM sat on their hands.

Cheney needs to go, NOW.
Articles of Impeachment should be drawn up ASAP in the House, and he should finally be dragged up out of that infamous secret bunker and tossed to the curb.

“That WaPo profile on Cheney is huge! When am I going to get the time to read that? Looks interesting though.”

So far it’s not that interesting. I send a question to Barton Gelman for his Monday chat. Asked if they interviewed Pete Williams for the series.

Williams us curently a “reporter” for NBC, specializing in The Supremes and their latest rulings.

Back in Bush the First days, Pete was Cheney’s under-secretary, playing a major “Mainstream” media role during the Gulf War. He was on the tube every night standing in front of charts and maps with a pointer — explaining what was supposedly going on to a pack of credulous fourth estate whores.

Pete was famously “outed” by Michelangelo Signorile in The Advocate. Under provisions pushed by the gay rights movement for years his job was safe. But ordinary gay and lesbian soldiers, grabbed up for STOP LOSS were summarily shitcanned after the war-let was over.

To avoid “embarassment” Pete left and went to NBC.

It was a lateral move in that NBC is owned by Genral Electric, the greatest purveyor of weapons of mass destruction the world has ever know.

General Electric IS the Defense Department.

BONUS FUN FACT!: Back in ‘92 at the first meeting of the National Gay and Lesbian Journalists Association, Michaelangelo revealed at a panel chaired by Patient Less Than Zero that Pete and his S.O. had a Summer Share in the Pines with Sully-Pooh and his fuck du jour.

Much hilarity as Sully’s face went right through the floor.

jayt at 82

I do believe I saw recently that Sen. Tim Johnson is expected back soon, if he’s not already there. Terrific news, eh?!

Lately, I have been interested in long range social innovations. Several of them are showing up. One is the emergence of a trend toward tiny houses; another is in the slow food movement. Yet another is the trend in smart cars. Any ideas/observations you see?

fahrender @ 69

perris (@ 7):

you’re wrong on one point:

Cheney does believe he is a patriot. Cheney the shithouse rat is a true believer. he and his #1 henchman, Addington. they are our SAVIORS doncha know? they have the special knowledge ……

you’re giving this theif and traitor some kind of credit that he doesn’t deserve

he knows he’s dismantling our consitution, he knows he’s used our armed forces to steal

he knows he made up crap to start a war which he know would dismantle our military ability

I can’t imagine any stretch of definition to call this a man who thinks he’s a patriot

perhaps in the mad sense that he thinks America should be a differant country and he’s being a patriot to his desire to steal in order to make this country a differant country

but that’s the leap of definition you have to make to suggest he thinks he’s being patriotic

now, I believe the man is indeed mad and if we assume he’s mad then I suppose it is possible for a mad man to believe he can claim something that is black to be white and then believe that because he said it, so it is

but that is the only stretch a person could make to claim he thinks he’s a patriot

he’s a traitor and he knows he’s a traitor

he wants to redefine the term so other people don’t call him a traitor

not gonna work

It does seem that indeed the Aspens are turning.

-GSD

GSD @ 89

It does seem that indeed the Aspens are turning.

-GSD

Perhaps it’s root rot.

Dick loves it when a plan comes together.

And where is the damned Phase II Report?

Adie says
June 24th, 2007 at 7:10 am

Yes indeed.

jayt @ 91

Dick loves it when a plan comes together.

And where is the damned Phase II Report?

Adie says
June 24th, 2007 at 7:10 am

Yes indeed.

phase ll better start with the redacted stage 1

GeorgeSimian @ 79

That WaPo profile on Cheney is huge! When am I going to get the time to read that? Looks interesting though. I’ll try.

Pick it up. Then just TRY to put it down. I read it all the way through last night after midnight. When I started, I thought I was exhausted and headed straight to bed. After finally finishing the piece and most of the comments, I was off to bed, but certainly not for a restful sleep. It’s a must-read, finally, from the WaPo. ‘Bout time!

Have any of the Sunday talk shows mentioned the Cheney article? I didn’t see it on ABC. I’m watching Russert now and they are talking about immigration. COWARDS!

jayt @ 91

Dick loves it when a plan comes together.

And where is the damned Phase II Report?

You know what Dick calls Phase II? ~ IRAN.

Adie @ 93

GeorgeSimian @ 79

That WaPo profile on Cheney is huge! When am I going to get the time to read that? Looks interesting though. I’ll try.

Pick it up. Then just TRY to put it down. I read it all the way through last night after midnight. When I started, I thought I was exhausted and headed straight to bed. After finally finishing the piece and most of the comments, I was off to bed, but certainly not for a restful sleep. It’s a must-read, finally, from the WaPo. ‘Bout time!

I figured as much. I’ll try to read it tonight.

I read the WaPoo article early this morning, and it was not a good idea. Rage in the morning is not good for my constitution.

Patty Morlan @ 94

Have any of the Sunday talk shows mentioned the Cheney article? I didn’t see it on ABC. I’m watching Russert now and they are talking about immigration. COWARDS!

Maybe Tim Russert thinks that he is the fifth Russert Branch of Government. Just an idea!

the whole regime has, since day one, been bent on dismantling where they can, and undermining and attacking every single institution or insatrument by which the People of the Democratic Republic of America might resist the out-right dispropriation of the People from the tools of self-governance.

they knew they could get away with it–and get away with it they have–because of the training in the compliant, corporate media to which the citizenry has been successfully subjected has alienated the average person from the responsibilities they incur in consequence of their b3eing citizens, to begin with, of a democratic republican state…

people who believe USer schools fail are under a misapprehension of what the USwer school system is DESIGNED to do: make students–the future voters and decision-makers of the government–passive receptacles of the received wisdom relentlesssly shovelled at them of the oligarchic/corpoRat class camoflaged as ‘entertainment.’

at this the schools have succeeded beyond their wildest imagininig.
./

sofistic @ 97

I read the WaPoo article early this morning, and it was not a good idea. Rage in the morning is not good for my constitution.

your rage is not good for your constitution but indeed it is what OUR constitution will rely on to survive

do spread the word, do spread your rage…we must if our children are to enjoy the country we did

perris @ 100

sofistic @ 97

I read the WaPoo article early this morning, and it was not a good idea. Rage in the morning is not good for my constitution.

your rage is not good for your constitution but indeed it is what OUR constitution will rely on to survive

do spread the word, do spread your rage…we must if our children are to enjoy the country we did

ABSOLUTELY!

perris @ 88

but that is the only stretch a person could make to claim he thinks he’s a patriot

he’s a traitor and he knows he’s a traitor

he wants to redefine the term so other people don’t call him a traitor

not gonna work

Sociopaths always over reach because they underestimate the moral indignation of normal people. They simply cannot understand why people get so upset about what are to them issues of no consequence. They also tend to over estimate their own intelligence. They aren’t as smart as they think they are, just more brazen and callous then normal people. They mistake bullying for IQ.

Lou Costello @ 72

Interesting comment at TP about Cheney the Criminal: Wild Cornered Animal Stage is upon us.

I’ve been blogging about the sham pandemic planning by the HHS – with the latest being a five week blog that features a colleague of emptywheel as an invited panelist. The blog is being used a political tool which is hiding the HHS total failure at planning at preparing and at providing full and accurate pandemic tracking, mutation and spread. The comment you refer to on TP also mentions a pandemic.

If you want to destroy a country but leave the infrastructure intact, a pandemic is much more effective than a nuclear weapon.

I would be hunkering down and stockpiling food, water, medications, batteries, buying solar panels and trying to get off the grid as much as possible. Once the national electric grid goes down, the government will be in control of communication by default. The ‘net will only be accessible to a few who have off the gird capability. Food, water, medical care, schooling, banking – everything – will be disrupted for a long enough period of time to allow for martial law to effect a full coup d’tat.

Never have I been so scared. We are beyond a Constitutional crisis.

We have given Congress a clear mandate, and yet they dither. Why?

The Constitution isn’t serving the people.

noen @ 102

Sociopaths always over reach because they underestimate the moral indignation of normal people. They simply cannot understand why people get so upset about what are to them issues of no consequence. They also tend to over estimate their own intelligence. They aren’t as smart as they think they are, just more brazen and callous then normal people. They mistake bullying for IQ.

bingo

however this man understands he is no intelect, he refuses to face his counterparts because he knows he cannot compete on an intiectual level

perris 88, fahrender 69

when a leader is acting in such a fashion, does it even MATTER any more what he thinks he is?

maybe for the inevitable psychobabble to come. [pardon, Pach. i hope you know i mean no harm]
but for the sheer realistic hope of saving this country and the world from total ruin? – nuh uh.

deluded or genius, or both, he needs to be stripped of his powers, pronto!

perris @ 88

fahrender @ 69

perris (@ 7):

you’re wrong on one point:

Cheney does believe he is a patriot. Cheney the shithouse rat is a true believer. he and his #1 henchman, Addington. they are our SAVIORS doncha know? they have the special knowledge ……

you’re giving this theif and traitor some kind of credit that he doesn’t deserve

he knows he’s dismantling our consitution, he knows he’s used our armed forces to steal

he knows he made up crap to start a war which he know would dismantle our military ability

I can’t imagine any stretch of definition to call this a man who thinks he’s a patriot

perhaps in the mad sense that he thinks America should be a differant country and he’s being a patriot to his desire to steal in order to make this country a differant country

but that’s the leap of definition you have to make to suggest he thinks he’s being patriotic

now, I believe the man is indeed mad and if we assume he’s mad then I suppose it is possible for a mad man to believe he can claim something that is black to be white and then believe that because he said it, so it is

but that is the only stretch a person could make to claim he thinks he’s a patriot

he’s a traitor and he knows he’s a traitor

he wants to redefine the term so other people don’t call him a traitor

not gonna work

it’s called madness, perris. just because he believes he’s a patriot doesn’t mean that he is. you have to accept that there are other world views than your world view. Cheneycakes’ world view is twisted, really twisted, not unlike that of Adolf Hitler. such people cannot do what they have done without the certainty and resolve of true belief in their own righteousness. Cheney just keeps going. no. matter. what.
the vast majority of people disagree with him? no problem.
reality smacks him on the nose with an oak plank? he may have a “cardio vascular event” but he doesn’t even blink.

he believes. period.

Lou Costello @ 72

Interesting comment at TP about Cheney the Criminal: Wild Cornered Animal Stage is upon us.

“wild cornered animal stage”

that’s the analogy I’ve been looking for when I say “the more they are exposed the more brazen they will become”

it’s a “bingo” moment for me

BRODER ALERT! You have been warned. Meet the Press has both Broder and Russert. This is not a drill.

“Never have I been so scared. We are beyond a Constitutional crisis.”

I’m beyond fear. Have been for years. I survived World War III (The 1962 “Cuban Missle Crisis” went the sainted JFK tried to KILL US ALL!)and I remain HIV negative as 3/4 of my best friends died horrible deaths from the late 80’s through the mid-to-late 90’s as an utterly indifferent government and pressed stood silently by.

Fear is a useless emotion.

Save for the powers that be who stoke it relentlessly. It’s their means of retaining power.

fahrender @ 106

it’s called madness, perris. just because he believes he’s a patriot doesn’t mean that he is. you have to accept that there are other world views than your world view. Cheneycakes’ world view is twisted, really twisted, not unlike that of Adolf Hitler. such people cannot do what they have done without the certainty and resolve of true belief in their own righteousness. Cheney just keeps going. no. matter. what.
the vast majority of people disagree with him? no problem.
reality smacks him on the nose with an oak plank? he may have a “cardio vascular event” but he doesn’t even blink.

he believes. period.

the reason I refuse to call it a product of his madness is that would make it innocent to his disease

I maintain he knows he is being a traitor, I maintain he knows he is destroying the country our forfathers invisioned and gifted to the world

I howeve accept that he wants to redefine what “patriot” might mean but he does not believe he’s being a “patriot” to the difinition that he didn’t create

sofistic @ 97

I read the WaPoo article early this morning, and it was not a good idea. Rage in the morning is not good for my constitution.

1st a.m. cuppa, or just before climbing in bed to “sleep”?

i’ll toss ya for it.

Even worse, why do I feel the need to “spotlight” the WaPo blog to its own editorial staff?! *groan*

perris @ 92

jayt @ 91

Dick loves it when a plan comes together.

And where is the damned Phase II Report?

Adie says
June 24th, 2007 at 7:10 am

Yes indeed.

phase ll better start with the redacted stage 1

you-all aren’t going to like this… but it already happened a few weeks ago.

it got a bit of MSM coverage, but not a lot. probably because it was released in a friday dump.

that’s right. our dem congress, our dem chair of the intelligence committee buried the report in a friday docu dump.

i am an idiot. must pay attention to ccmask.

selise @ 112

perris @ 92

phase ll better start with the redacted stage 1

you-all aren’t going to like this… but it already happened a few weeks ago.

it got a bit of MSM coverage, but not a lot. probably because it was released in a friday dump.

that’s right. our dem congress, our dem chair of the intelligence committee buried the report in a Friday docu dump.

i am an idiot. must pay attention to ccmask.

if they dumped it then they caved and they didn’t do much investigation at all…we didn’t even know about it

read “they’ve been bought”

I am weary

Christy asks what are you reading in the news and on the blogs. My problem is what I am NOT seeing.

We are so in the moment all the time, that I see no observations on long term social innovations. What is emerging? What will things look like a year from now, 5 years from now, 10 years, 100 years? Very little of that seems to be out there.

off to work, might not be able to comment for a while

have good sunday all

Glenn Reynolds by way of Raw Story: DICK CHENEY AS A LEGISLATIVE OFFICIAL

Ed Morrissey is not impressed with this gem of a legal argument. He’s right not to be, and he’s right that this is a political and legal embarrassment for the Administration, but it’s not because of the constitutional language he quotes.

The argument that the Vice President is a legislative official isn’t inherently absurd. The Constitution gives the Vice President no executive powers: The VP’s only duties are to preside over the Senate, and to become President if the serving President dies or leaves office. The Vice President really isn’t an Executive official, and isn’t part of the President’s administration the way that other officials are — for one thing, the VP can’t be fired by the President: As an independently elected officeholder, he can be removed only by Congress, via impeachment. (In various separation of powers cases, the Supreme Court has placed a lot of weight on this who-can-fire-you test).

And traditionally VP’s haven’t done much. That changed when Jimmy Carter gave Fritz Mondale an unusual amount of responsibility by historical standards, and has continued with subsequent Administrations, particularly under Clinton/Gore and Bush/Cheney.

But here’s the thing: Whatever executive power a VP exercises is exercised because it’s delegated by the President, not because the VP has it already.

(snip)

Please read the rest of this post and then look at 3 USC 106 (there’s another citation in Title 3 that is relevant for purposes of this discussion) to see what it says about delegation of executive power to the Vice President.

sofistic @ 114

Christy asks what are you reading in the news and on the blogs. My problem is what I am NOT seeing.

We are so in the moment all the time, that I see no observations on long term social innovations. What is emerging? What will things look like a year from now, 5 years from now, 10 years, 100 years? Very little of that seems to be out there.

You mean something like this? Shattered Union

perris:

ok, i think we’ve beaten this rug enough. we both think he needs to be dealt with. that’s good enough for me.

david (#109):

i think JFK ended up with a good call on that one. i almost got called up for the Cuban Missle Crisis. “Bay of Pigs”, not so much.

you’ve suffered a lot more than me, but i still find find fear, or at least alarm to be of use. sometimes it gets my attention when it’s definitely needed.

perris @ 115

off to work, might not be able to comment for a while

have good sunday all

well, before I go I have to leave us with something else and add even more rage’

think progress is just leading now with this;

More Afghans killed by U.S./NATO than militants. “U.S.-led coalition and NATO forces fighting insurgents in Afghanistan have killed at least 203 civilians so far this year — surpassing the 178 civilians killed in militant attacks, according to an Associated Press tally.

yup, we are killing more civillians then the “militants” are

no surprise for us at the lake but just seeing it in writing burns our soul

have good sunday

sofistic @ 114

Christy asks what are you reading in the news and on the blogs. My problem is what I am NOT seeing.

We are so in the moment all the time, that I see no observations on long term social innovations. What is emerging? What will things look like a year from now, 5 years from now, 10 years, 100 years? Very little of that seems to be out there.

I see bright flight – highly educated professionals and scientists finally leaving the US for fertile ground.

I see a catastrophically broken healthcare infrastructure and worsening nurse and physician shortages with governmental intrusion into the practice of those professions – diagnosing and treatment intrusions -the most egregious being in the fields of reproductive health.

I see people inculcated into abandoning civil discourse and debate based on the merits for rabid and blind partisanship – with accusations of traitor and treason hurled at dissenters.

I see the move and rise of a police state.

I see a vast oppressed underclass and a small hugely wealthy and powerful corporate elite.

Social innovations? I see a gasping republic that may not be successfully resuscitated -for in spite of the will of the people, those charged to protect and defend the Constitution which forms the life blood are refusing to do so.

Lou Costello @ 72

Interesting comment at TP about Cheney the Criminal: Wild Cornered Animal Stage is upon us.

I just don’t have the energy right now, but I’ll bet if I searched long enough, I could pull up an ancient comment of mine from when they 1st got into office under [the means they felt necessary and appropriate to assure that they did so], way back in 2000.

That was an ethologist’s gut-feeling, expressed very early on, & apparently dead-on accurate imho. Oh how I wish I’d been wrong, and that those who thot I was nutty at the time had been right.

Not a “good call” at all Fahrender. It was a pack of lies.

In fact in Sicko, Moore points this out rather deftly in passing.

John Cale put it best in his song “Dr Mudd”:

“Do dodododo
What’re you gonna do
What’re you gonna do
Tell me, what you’re gonna do
What’re you gonna do
What’re you gonna do
Tell me, what you’re gonna do
Big black eagle’s flying around
Flying ’round this town
One of these days it’s gonna pay you a visit
Drop his load on the ground
What’re you gonna do
Do …
The people back in Nagasaki
They remember the day too well
When the big black eagle came flying ’round
Introduced them all to hell
And the people in Hiroshima
Hiroshima, mon amour
They remember when the children’s hair fell out
And their skin turned blue
What’re you gonna do
Do …
What’re you gonna do, what’re you gonna do
When China drops the bomb on you
What’re you gonna do, what’re you gonna do
When China drops the bomb on you
Do …”

Well, Lou, that was a real upper.

From Mydd, it looks like Obama lost the congregation when he started talking about Immigration & an amnesty program.

Can we sense a trend here?

First here’s Broder on Bloomberg

Now here’s George Will from Newsweek same topic

Cale is similarly eloquent in his song “Fear is a Man’s Best Friend”:

“Standing waiting for a man to show
Wide eyed one eye fixed on the door
This waiting’s killing me, it’s wearing me down
Day in day out, my feet are burning holes in the ground

Darkness warmer than a bedroom floor
Want someone to hold me close forever more
I’m a sleeping dog, but you can’t tell
When I’m on the prowl you’ld better run like hell
You know it makes sense, don’t even think about it
Life and death are just things you do when you’re bored
Say fear’s a man’s best friend
You add it up it brings you down

Home is living like a man on the run
Trails leading nowhere, where to my son?
We’re already dead, just not yet in the ground
Take my helping hand I’ll show you around
You know it makes sense, don’t even think about it
Life and death are just things you do when you’re bored
Say fear’s a man’s best friend
You add it up it brings you down
Say fear’s a man’s best friend
Say fear’s a man’s best friend
Say fear’s a man’s best friend
Say fear’s a man’s best friend”

Of course the man he was waiting for was his drug dealer. But it all still applies to Shooter and Company and the mentality they wish to impose on the world.

Remember John Garfield’s last line in Body and Soul (written by My Favorite Communist, Abraham Polonsky):

“Whatcha gonna do – kill me? Everybody dies.”

dakine01 @ 125

Can we sense a trend here?

First here’s Broder on Bloomberg

Now here’s George Will from Newsweek same topic

GORE/BLOOMBERG

not my favorite combination but possibly a unifying combination

the next president has to unify this country, the republicans hate the democrats to the point of forgiving treason rather then face a democrat

we need to unify and that might be the ticket right there

Actually, I am more optimistic than most people. My job used to be long range forecasting, and I learned that you don’t get very far extending the current state of affairs into the future, but instead looking for viable outliers. And that is what I am searching for.

noen @ 38

David Ehrenstein @ 35

Yesterday Tweety — right out of thin air — announced “I like Hillary.”

WTF?!?!!!!

Weather vanes will do that.

ever seen weather vanes cope with a series of dust-devils? tweety to a tee. i know he thinks he-hissownself is whip-tail brilliant but… egad. there’s some sorta formula at work deep in there, and it does not come out on the positive side…

N=1 @ 103

Lou Costello @ 72

Interesting comment at TP about Cheney the Criminal: Wild Cornered Animal Stage is upon us.

I’ve been blogging about the sham pandemic planning by the HHS – with the latest being a five week blog that features a colleague of emptywheel as an invited panelist. The blog is being used a political tool which is hiding the HHS total failure at planning at preparing and at providing full and accurate pandemic tracking, mutation and spread. The comment you refer to on TP also mentions a pandemic.

If you want to destroy a country but leave the infrastructure intact, a pandemic is much more effective than a nuclear weapon.

I would be hunkering down and stockpiling food, water, medications, batteries, buying solar panels and trying to get off the grid as much as possible. Once the national electric grid goes down, the government will be in control of communication by default. The ‘net will only be accessible to a few who have off the gird capability. Food, water, medical care, schooling, banking – everything – will be disrupted for a long enough period of time to allow for martial law to effect a full coup d’tat.

Never have I been so scared. We are beyond a Constitutional crisis.

We have given Congress a clear mandate, and yet they dither. Why?

The Constitution isn’t serving the people.

Sorry, but to my mind this is completely idle speculation. I am not seeing the evidence for your fears. We have many points in common but in my opinion these are really just wild speculations.

It’s called confirmation bias. Those things you fear the most are those you will search for reports that confirm them. You won’t look for evidence that counters them.

We are living in terrible times, but I don’t think we need to be retiring to the bunkers just yet.

perris @ 127

dakine01 @ 125

Can we sense a trend here?

First here’s Broder on Bloomberg

Now here’s George Will from Newsweek same topic

GORE/BLOOMBERG

not my favorite combination but possibly a unifying combination

the next president has to unify this country, the republicans hate the democrats to the point of forgiving treason rather then face a democrat

we need to unify and that might be the ticket right there

kinda interesting, idn’it?! heh.

ccmask:

“From Mydd, it looks like Obama lost the congregation when he started talking about Immigration & an amnesty program.”

The “Magic Negro” just lost his magic.

Obama is a TOOL — and the sooner we all realize this the better.

“GORE/BLOOMBERG

not my favorite combination but possibly a unifying combination”

You can’t possibly be serious.

Gore is the embodiment of gravitas.

Bloomberg is billionaire closet queen on a power trip.

Addendum to my 7:38 am comment: also look at 3 USC 301 and 302:

Sec. 301. General authorization to delegate functions; publication of delegations.

Sec. 302. Scope of delegation of functions.

Some Darth history…The Unauthorized Biography of Dick.

via RawStory: Democrats plan to cut Cheney out of executive funding bill.

You know, the comments are decidedly ugly today. It’s really unpleasant to read. Ugly with a dash of conspiracy theory hysteria.

Take a deep breath. Things are rarely as bad as we think they are.

David Ehrenstein @ 132

The “Magic Negro” just lost his magic.

Obama is a TOOL — and the sooner we all realize this the better.

I despise that reference. This term has been deliberately used by racists such as Rush Limbaugh. This is a classic example of “Stereotype Threat”, used against Obama.

Does anyone feel it possible that the VP replacement could have the first name ‘Jeb’?

noen @ 130

N=1 @ 103

I’ve been blogging about the sham pandemic planning by the HHS – with the latest being a five week blog that features a colleague of emptywheel as an invited panelist. The blog is being used a political tool which is hiding the HHS total failure at planning at preparing and at providing full and accurate pandemic tracking, mutation and spread. The comment you refer to on TP also mentions a pandemic.

If you want to destroy a country but leave the infrastructure intact, a pandemic is much more effective than a nuclear weapon.

I would be hunkering down and stockpiling food, water, medications, batteries, buying solar panels and trying to get off the grid as much as possible. Once the national electric grid goes down, the government will be in control of communication by default. The ‘net will only be accessible to a few who have off the gird capability. Food, water, medical care, schooling, banking – everything – will be disrupted for a long enough period of time to allow for martial law to effect a full coup d’tat.

Never have I been so scared. We are beyond a Constitutional crisis.

We have given Congress a clear mandate, and yet they dither. Why?

The Constitution isn’t serving the people.

Sorry, but to my mind this is completely idle speculation. I am not seeing the evidence for your fears. We have many points in common but in my opinion these are really just wild speculations.

It’s called confirmation bias. Those things you fear the most are those you will search for reports that confirm them. You won’t look for evidence that counters them.

We are living in terrible times, but I don’t think we need to be retiring to the bunkers just yet.

What information to the contrary do you see that I’m missing?

David Ehrenstein @ 132

ccmask:

“From Mydd, it looks like Obama lost the congregation when he started talking about Immigration & an amnesty program.”

The “Magic Negro” just lost his magic.

Obama is a TOOL — and the sooner we all realize this the better.

Right You Are, brother!
he’s owned, body and soul, by Cargill/ADM and the coal lobby (which includes EVERY-fuukin-THING from energy to plastics to internet communications giants)…

noen @ 137

You know, the comments are decidedly ugly today. It’s really unpleasant to read. Ugly with a dash of conspiracy theory hysteria.

Take a deep breath. Things are rarely as bad as we think they are.

I’m with you on that one. There some deep cultural things moving in American society, and they look good rather than as bad as the current situation would lead one to believe.

Lou Costello @ 136

via RawStory: Democrats plan to cut Cheney out of executive funding bill.

I agree with emptywheel – lets take away their security clearance – which should have done a long, long time ago

noen @ 137

You know, the comments are decidedly ugly today. It’s really unpleasant to read. Ugly with a dash of conspiracy theory hysteria.

Take a deep breath. Things are rarely as bad as we think they are.

I disagree, they are much worse, we don’t know or suspect half of what these criminals have done.

jayt @ 91

Dick loves it when a plan comes together.

And where is the damned Phase II Report?

Adie says
June 24th, 2007 at 7:10 am

Yes indeed.

hey guys. please be a little careful with the block-quoting. my comment was in reference to happynews that Sen. Tim Johnson is apparently recovered enough to return to the Senate.
hmmmm

Steve @ 144

noen @ 137

You know, the comments are decidedly ugly today. It’s really unpleasant to read. Ugly with a dash of conspiracy theory hysteria.

Take a deep breath. Things are rarely as bad as we think they are.

I disagree, they are much worse, we don’t know or suspect half of what these criminals have done.

ding, ding, ding, ding…
johnny, what has noen steve won?

sofistic @ 142

noen @ 137

You know, the comments are decidedly ugly today. It’s really unpleasant to read. Ugly with a dash of conspiracy theory hysteria.

Take a deep breath. Things are rarely as bad as we think they are.

I’m with you on that one. There some deep cultural things moving in American society, and they look good rather than as bad as the current situation would lead one to believe.

The cultural trend that I see is the expansion and increasing influence of mindless religious belief. These people are in the “game” for the long haul and their goals are not a good future for this country.

Adie @ 145

jayt @ 91

Dick loves it when a plan comes together.

And where is the damned Phase II Report?

Adie says
June 24th, 2007 at 7:10 am

Yes indeed.

hey guys. please be a little careful with the block-quoting. my comment was in reference to happynews that Sen. Tim Johnson is apparently recovered enough to return to the Senate.

hmmmm

And that’s what I was responding to. sorry about the clumsiness. I do hope that it was a recent clip I was seeing. He looked good, and I certainly hope that he is soon able to return to the Senate soonest.

I think it’s interesting that John Dean on the Rachel Maddow show & the Dems talk about defunding Cheney’s office at the same time. However, if the Dems aren’t just blowing smoke, I’ll believe it when I see it.

sofistic @ 142

I’m with you on that one. There some deep cultural things moving in American society, and they look good rather than as bad as the current situation would lead one to believe.

Thanks. I posted upthread some thoughts on Cheney as sociopath and I also wondered out loud if the latest revelations didn’t amount to a coup d’état. Which is really just speculation on my part. So…. I guess that I’m not immune either. But… You can’t let these things get to you, that’s all. Life goes on, it always does.

Trends in church membership, especially in fundamentalist groups (per 1,000 population) are declining. In the table that follows, look down to the “per 1000″ population. Church membership trend It appears that the more moderate sects have increased modestly, and declined in the most radical sects.

“I despise that reference. This term has been deliberately used by racists such as Rush Limbaugh. This is a classic example of “Stereotype Threat”, used against Obama.

Suck it Up! This decidedly Unmagic Negro says he deserves it.

Obama’s a tool.

WAKE UP!

jayt @ 148

Adie @ 145

hey guys. please be a little careful with the block-quoting. my comment was in reference to happynews that Sen. Tim Johnson is apparently recovered enough to return to the Senate.

hmmmm

And that’s what I was responding to. sorry about the clumsiness. I do hope that it was a recent clip I was seeing. He looked good, and I certainly hope that he is soon able to return to the Senate soonest.

sorry jayt. i looked back there, & it might have been a server hiccup that caused it. at least that’s what mods called it when GrandmaJ was shocked to see a bogus comment float in out of the ethers under her name yesterday. weird. heh.

Really happy news about Johnson. I hope he stays healthy. What a scare! He was extremely fortunate they got him to specialist PDQ, I guess.

Fresh thread for everyone. Up and running…

noen @ 150

sofistic @ 142

I’m with you on that one. There some deep cultural things moving in American society, and they look good rather than as bad as the current situation would lead one to believe.

Thanks. I posted upthread some thoughts on Cheney as sociopath and I also wondered out loud if the latest revelations didn’t amount to a coup d’état. Which is really just speculation on my part. So…. I guess that I’m not immune either. But… You can’t let these things get to you, that’s all. Life goes on, it always does.

Please tell me you’re not advising people to ignore revelations of this import!

Steve @ 144

I disagree, they are much worse, we don’t know or suspect half of what these criminals have done.

This may surprise you but I agree. I fully expect that there is much more we don’t know yet. But what I’m trying to say is I think this whole topic has become kind of poisonous. It affects us all.

Adie @ 155

Please tell me you’re not advising people to ignore revelations of this import!

No, I’m saying that I see those revelations poisoning the ensuing discussion.

Curious whether or not you saw the piece Christopher Hitchens wrote on Slate.com, june 18th.

CH; “If Scooter Libby goes to jail, it will be because he made a telephone call to Tim Russert and because Tim Russert has a different recollection of the conversation”….