The control of power is currency in Washington, and to control things you need to be the master of shaping the information fed to the people in charge. When you’ve been successful at placing your minions in important positions around the head of state, you get both better information about what may be going on and also the oportunity to shape the views of the nation’s leader toward your side of things. So it has been in every court of power for all time, and so it is today for Dick Cheney. To wit:
The vice president’s reputation and, some say, his influence, have suffered in the past year and a half. Cheney lost his closest aide, I. Lewis “Scooter” Libby, to a perjury conviction, and his onetime mentor, Donald H. Rumsfeld, in a Cabinet purge. A shooting accident in Texas, and increasing gaps between his rhetoric and events in Iraq, have exposed him to ridicule and approval ratings in the teens. Cheney expresses indifference, in public and private, to any verdict but history’s, and those close to him say he means it.
Waxing or waning, Cheney holds his purchase on an unrivaled portfolio across the executive branch. Bush works most naturally, close observers said, at the level of broad objectives, broadly declared. Cheney, they said, inhabits an operational world in which means are matched with ends and some of the most important choices are made. When particulars rise to presidential notice, Cheney often steers the preparation of options and sits with Bush, in side-by-side wing chairs, as he is briefed.
Before the president casts the only vote that counts, the final words of counsel nearly always come from Cheney. (emphasis mine)
You tell me: do all those trips to the CIA headquarters in Langley that Cheney and Libby made in the run-up to the Iraq invasion start standing out in even starker relief for you this morning? Because they should. Sure would be an effective means of shaping policy recommendations prior to the President ever getting his hands on the intelligence and would also have given Cheney a leg up on anyone else in the room in knowing what was or was not to be presented so that he could either (a) push certain interpretations with even more background knowledge or (b) discredit a briefer or policy maker by pulling out information they might think he wouldn’t know. Crafty old manipulative spider, isn’t he?
When you control both the messages that are getting through to the top, and you are the most valued counselor whose opinions are given last and with the most weight to the nation’s leader, you wield a very powerful hand indeed.
Cheney has worked since before Bush took office to place his sycophants and loyalists in every important nook and cranny of the Bush Administration. And he guards his secrets, every last one of them, with an obsessive quality that makes Nixon look lax. Because Cheney understands the value of approaching an issue from the shadows, and the even greater value of stealth and surprise when one is trying to end-run real discussion and disregard the rule of law when it got in the way of his plans:
Stealth is among Cheney’s most effective tools. Man-size Mosler safes, used elsewhere in government for classified secrets, store the workaday business of the office of the vice president. Even talking points for reporters are sometimes stamped “Treated As: Top Secret/SCI.” Experts in and out of government said Cheney’s office appears to have invented that designation, which alludes to “sensitive compartmented information,” the most closely guarded category of government secrets. By adding the words “treated as,” they said, Cheney seeks to protect unclassified work as though its disclosure would cause “exceptionally grave damage to national security.”
A document from the Office of the Vice President is stamped “Treated as Secret/SCI” Across the board, the vice president’s office goes to unusual lengths to avoid transparency. Cheney declines to disclose the names or even the size of his staff, generally releases no public calendar and ordered the Secret Service to destroy his visitor logs. His general counsel has asserted that “the vice presidency is a unique office that is neither a part of the executive branch nor a part of the legislative branch,” and is therefore exempt from rules governing either. Cheney is refusing to observe an executive order on the handling of national security secrets, and he proposed to abolish a federal office that insisted on auditing his compliance.
In the usual business of interagency consultation, proposals and information flow into the vice president’s office from around the government, but high-ranking White House officials said in interviews that almost nothing flows out. Close aides to Cheney describe a similar one-way valve inside the office, with information flowing up to the vice president but little or no reaction flowing down.
This has all been information that has been whispered about, that we saw glimpses of during the Libby trial with the insinuations of the Vice President unilaterally declassifying intelligence matters at will to suit his own political machinations. What is stunning about the Gellman and Becker report is that people were willing to talk, on the record on occasion, about Cheney. He’s overplayed his hand, and with the end of the Bush administration’s tenure in the White House, a weakened Cheney enforcement apparatus with the loss of Libby, and with the weaker position in which Rove finds himself, I think we are going to be learning a whole lot more in the days ahead.
This whole beginning of the unraveling of the Cheney machine brings to mind the well-played Sam Neill version of Cardinal Wolsey in The Tudors. (You really should be watching this show – it is brilliant, superbly acted, and the manifestations of ego and avarice are all too familiar by comparison to the Bushies.) I say bring on the sunshine — it has been a long time coming for Dick Cheney, and I cannot think of a man who deserves the exposure more.
And, while I’m thinking of it, what took the WaPo so long to allow Barton Gellman to put this series together? He’s been working out bits and pieces of this for ages. Here is a question that I would like to see answered: Was the White House Iraq Group really Cheney’s idea — a way to head fake the sale of the Iraq invasion to the American public to push not only public opinion, but also opinion in the West Wing, in his direction? One would hope that if Colin Powell knows the answer to that particular question, he’d take a little time to talk with Gellman or someone else about it — because that is one we all ought to know.
PS — I’ll be on Sam Seder’s Show today beginning at 5 pm ET. You can listen live via the Air America website.



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Hey Christy
It was obvious at the time what Cheney was up to with those trips to the CIA in the ramp up to Iraq. I think it’s called intimidation.
Cheney has been exposed as a modern Rasputin, manipulating Bush and using him as a puppet to gain power and run his own shadow government. Bush may not care about being seen by history as the worst president, but it would be brilliant to see Bush realize history will know him as the weakest president, being nothing but a tool for Dick Cheney. That plays into Bush’s insecurities, and here’s hoping he gets his comeuppance by realizing the truth one day. Bush should pay in some small way for how he’s damaged this country.
And, while I’m thinking of it, what took the WaPo so long to allow Barton Gellman to put this series together? He’s been working out bits and pieces of this for ages.
I’ll take a wild stab(!11!) at that question. Because Donald Graham is a neocon, and he hires fellow travelers (Fred Hiatt, Michael Gerson of the WHIG) who support Cheney’s goals.
They just read the polls.
the repug on Late Edition is having to choke out a defense of Dick… it’s not sounding too convincing…
Difi let loose with both barrels this morning on Fox.
Counselor or consiglere?
By the way, I’d love to see some attention paid to the recent document dump by the CIA.
I’m as interested in the timing as I am in the content.
Don’t you understand…Dick is just trying to protect ‘merika…any way he can: LINK…no matter what anyone says: LINK
This is an old joke, but undiscovered by me until recently.
Free Bill Stickers
The other day CNN.com had a poll asking if people though Dick was too secretive. It was, at the time I saw it, running 4-1 yes, he is too secretive.
I figured there was control of what news Shrub sees: it’s the easiest explanation for his disconnected-from-reality statements, that he’s never been informed about what’s actually going on. So much easier to control the input when the President only reads summaries prepared by ’staff’ (whose staff? which people? how accurate?).
Christy says “Crafty old manipulative spider, isn’t he?”
Yes indeed — he’s a frikkin’ tarantula.
And where was my party on this Cheney/ CIA dirty business. Perhaps we should ask Hillary.
LoudounLib @ 11
Dick a spider? I was just looking at this (@ 0:30): LINK
undecided @ 7
FWIW, my opinion is “Look, a bright shiny object over there” is in play. I.E., distract from the current cr*p with all the stuff they did through the ’50s, ’60s, ’70s.
A child would have known what Dick was doing. Where were the grown-ups?
precisely one of the major things that bothers me, besides the veep’s behaviour.
It’s ludicrous on its face, but I feel as if things have gotten so awful in the MSM, we apparently need to “spotlight” the WaPo’s blog to their own clueless editorial staff.
wtf is in those coctail weenies, anyway?!
We were right all along.
Darth Cheney really is the one running, well, EVERYTHING!
This article chilled me to the core.
I am now going outside to kick some rocks.
Frank Rich’s latest background briefing:
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Of course we can beef ’til the cows come home home about what went before. How does that get our troops home, Democrats?
fwiw, lots of comments on this subject matter downstairs also…
Tarantulas aren’t the most subtle of spiders. They’re big and hairy and use their size to overpower their prey.
Black widow spiders, on the other hand…
When the prey is entangled by the web, L. mactans quickly comes out of its retreat, wraps the prey securely in its strong web, then punctures and envenomates its prey. The venom takes about ten minutes to take effect; in the mean time, the prey is held tightly by the spider. When movements of the prey cease, digestive enzymes are released into the wound. The black widow spider then carries its prey back to its retreat before feeding.[3]
It’s past time.
Articles of Impeachment.
Cheney.
NOW.
And Bush is the perfect match for Cheney. And incurious “C” grade man more interested in playing his video games, cutting brush or riding his bike than paying attention to world affairs.
It’s how Bush governed in Texas too. Let the advisers argue an issue down to a few alternatives to which he has the final say. He is the decider, that’s how he sees his role. It has probably never occurred to him that he could be lead around by the nose like a trained pig.
A lot of people are probably thinking, ‘anyone but the Republicans and the Democrats’. As a Democrat, I can’t blame them.
Rasputin? River? Ice? Sunshine, spring thaw. The whole thing is following a classic logistic curve.
I knew eventually it would happen. The WAPO has opened a news bureau in DC. Plus, once the reporters got the information, they published it in the paper as opposed to holding it for a book. Will miracles never cease?
“When you control both the messages that are getting through to the top, and you are the most valued counselor whose opinions are given last and with the most weight to the nation’s leader, you wield a very powerful hand indeed.”
Is that like heading up the search committee for the VP candidate and finding yourself?
I don’t read, watch or listen to MSM anymore.
I’ll never forget Marcy Wheeler’s opening remarks on the Plame Panel at Yearly Kos 2006 (watched by me on a C-Span replay). Paraphrasing her comments, she said that she saw many of the same dangerous players from earlier, corrupt Republican administrations resurfacing in the Bush administration, and she was determined to shine as much light as possible on those individuals to make sure we didn’t see a replay of the ideological scripts that led to Watergate and Iran Contra.
Clearly, we need to keep the bright lights on this crowd, but we should also be ferreting out those new players that Cheney has put into power positions throughout the administration. They represent the new dangers for the future. I also suspect that, like Cheney at an earlier moment in history, they will not appear to be the ones we need to expose early and often to prevent any future rise to power. John Yoo is clearly one individual who should have a big “X” chalked on his back, but who are the others we should be watching?
Oklahoma kiddo @ 28
There has been an epidemic of missing young attractive white women, and wild bear attacks.
grayslady @ 28
yep.
David at 5 — That was pretty much my take on it as well, but I wanted to ask the question anyway. *g* (Although given the man has been at 18 percent and under for months and months on end, it still took them a while to get around to reading them, didn’t it? I’d say ask L’Il Debbie, but we all know that she’s preoccupied with local issues these days…Ahem.)
“John McCain, who made his name attacking special interests, has more lobbyists working on his staff or as advisers than any of his competitors, Republican or Democrat.”
dakine at 14 — That’s been James Bamford’s take on it as well, FWIW.
Georgie’s got a perfect solution for September…MAKE SHIT UP: Bush plans to ‘create’ Iraq progress with new reports.
HillCountryGal @ 17
I disagree, Cheney, Bush, Rove et al are very bad people who are playing their assigned roles.
This assault on the Constitution has been in the works for more than fourty years. It’s the folks who thought of the “Federalist Society” who thought to fund, energize and expand the Christian Restorationist/Evangelicals and make them a political force. It’s the Richard Mellon-Scaifes of this country who are calling the shots and doing the long range, multi-generational planning. The current assault on the Constitution has been too effective and has involved the corruption of too many layers of government to be Cheney’s or Bush’s or Rove’s
idea.
…Then Cheney finished the article and smiled quietly to himself, “Pleased to meet you. Hope you guess my name…”
Christy Hardin Smith @ 33
I hadn’t heard/read that but at least it puts me in good company.
Talk about distraction. Here’s one I’m going to miss. I mean talk about small things amusing small minds. Get a grip. We’re on the edge of WW III.
AP – Paris Hilton plans to appear on CNN’s “Larry King Live” on Wednesday night, a day after she’s scheduled to be released from jail, a spokeswoman for King said Saturday.
And where does Karl fit into all this?
LoudounLib @ 11
How about this arthropodan (or arachnid) analogy from Wikipedia? Recluse spider
I’d like to see this at the top of a thread sometime.
Richard III – Ian McKellen – The End
“Lets do it pell mell
If not to heaven
Then hand in hand to hell”
Only re-cast it in DC instead of 20th century Briton.
Here’s another huge story!
AP – Prince William and former girlfriend Kate Middleton have resumed their relationship, British newspapers reported Sunday.
Han Fei Tzu Pgs 91,92 “The ruler of men is sometimes misled in undertakings and blinded by words.” “Ministers come blithely forward with a proposal for an undertaking and because the funds they ask for are small the ruler is duped by the proposal: misled as to its true nature, he fails to examine it thoroughly, but instead is filled with admiration for the men who made it. In this way ministers are able to use undertakings to gain power over the ruler. If when a minister comes foward with a proposal, he asks for meager funds but, after he has retired to put it into effect his expenditures are very large, then although the undertaking may produce results, the proposal was not made in good faith. ” “The way of the ruler is to make certain that, if what a minister says beforehand does not tally with what he says later, or what he says later does not tally with what he has said previously, then although he may have fulfilled his task with distinction, he is condemned to certain punishment. This is what it means to hold your subordinates responsible.” Sadly Han does not suggest what should be done if you fail at your task while incurring higher than expected cost.
Cheney recently lost several loyalists within his inner circle:
“The vice president’s reputation and, some say, his influence, have suffered in the past year and a half. Cheney lost his closest aide, I. Lewis “Scooter” Libby, to a perjury conviction, and his onetime mentor, Donald H. Rumsfeld, in a Cabinet purge.”
Maybe the loss of Libby and Rumsfeld explains why Liz Cheney seems to be taking on a more significant/prominent role in assisting with Dick Cheney’s official duties.
I wonder if the famously secretive and paranoid Dick Cheney is relying more and more these days on his most loyal remaining helper, his daughter.
If Shrub could be made to see (God knows how) that the country views him not as Harry Truman but Charlie McCarthy, he might get mad enough to assist in impeaching Cheney. Of course, then he’d have to admit he’s dumber than a bag of hammers for letting Darth punk him in the first place.
noen at 41 — I adore Ian McKellan. And his performance in Richard III was as mesmerizing as it was intense. Realy need to watch that again…thanks for the reminder.
God I’d love to have Nixon back. And Spiro too.
My question is why that troll is still around… ANYBODY can look at almost any photograph of this spawn of Satan and perceive him to be the purest and densest form of evil ever to mascarade as a human being.
Are we out of tar and feathers? How can such evil remain in power for 6 1/2 years in such a great country..
It makes me weep for my children…
Steve @ 36
last i looked, you can’t remove Scaife et al. from office.
Impeach.
Cheney.
NOW!
Oklahoma kiddo @ 40
That is the question.
Who is more in charge of operations these days? Dick or Karl?
Good morning firepups.
aye @ 45: Liz is one of the people I’d want to put on my “watch list”–someone to expose early and often. I understand that she’s now a foreign policy advisor to Fred Thompson.
btw, I thought that the video clip of scenes from The Tudors was well done. Mr. ReddHedd and I have been enjoying the show immensely (thank goodness for TIVO, we’ve been watching episodes as we can find the time…). This series on Showtime, like The Wire on HBO, is extremely well written and impeccibly acted — and isn’t getting nearly the publicity push that it ought to have gotten given the quality of the show. I like to promote good writing where I find it and both shows are amazingly well done.
aye @ 45
Boy Liz is a busy girl these days since she’s signed on as a foreign policy advisor for Fred thompson.
TexB @ 50
Same division of labor as always, Tex. KKKarl runs the country and Darth runs the world. And that company was formed long before you or I ever heard of George W. Bush.
Thanks. Great piece.
Cheney’s a veritable Cardinal Waterloo.
I feel good. 18 months left in the Bush presidency, and we’ve ‘got’ Libby.
TexB at 50 — I think the answer is both, because it depends on the issue. Cheney staked out national security policy, military and energy, among other things — and Karl hits domestic issues and elections. Their spheres overlap here and there — which is where that friction in the WHIG, among other places, has occurred. But I think both are content to leave the other alone, so long as their territory isn’t too encroached the bulk of the time.
Just like a coupla spiders…
Oklahoma kiddo @ 39
isn’t she right where she oughtta be?
when’s the last time King aired anything of substance?
talk about “Must-Miss-tv” ! nobrainer.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 57
Optimism looks good on you OKK.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 48
But it was so difficult to get rid of them!
TexB @ 60
You got my number. ;0)
the sf cronicle has an interesting read online this a.m. seems the california GOP has hired a new COO who seems to have little to no experience for this particular job, overseeing the state party’s budget. in fact, as of Feb ‘07 he was selling real estate in the Dominican Republic (except he never managed to sell anything).
he’s an australian immigrant who sued the dept of homeland security for illegal arrest in a dispute over his immigration status.
can’t wait to hear the real story on this one…
http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/arti…..QKUID1.DTL
OT for Buckeye Staters:
Ohio Attorney General Curses Out Reporter At Obama Event
I voted for Marc Dann, and supported him through Act Blue as well. So what is going on here?
Meet the Warren Tribune-Chronicle. Like too many of Ohio’s newspapers, fact free and wingnut friendly.
This bit about Marc Dann’s adopted daughter reminds me of Bernard Shaw and Kitty Dukakis.
aye @ 45
anyone noticed appropriate line-item in executive branch budget yet?
Rahm could start there…
Frank33 @ 61
As it turns out, a whole lot easier than these (Bush) guys. ;0)
Han Fei Tzu pg 93 “There is a proper way to initiate undertakings. If you estimate that the income from a particular undertaking will be large and the outlay small, then the project is practical. But a deluded ruler does not understand this. He estimates the income but not the outlay, and though the outlay may be twice the income, he fails to comprehend that this is a loss.” Chinese Philosophy is filled with it should be obvious common sense, the warring states period in China much like America under Bush seems to me to be a period where we need a review of the what should be obvious.
Adie @ 59
;0)
man I LOVE sam, he’s SO good.
I can’t wait to hear you again christy, make sure you both LAUGH when someone suggests cheney has any kind of clue
Adie @ 49
Impeachment isn’t going to happen, and the process would divert the Congress from exposure and documentation of the criminality. The best thing we can do with the current situation is to try to limit the damage, work to elect more Dems and restore the rule of law after 01/20/09. If these people aren’t vigorously prosecuted, this disease will come back with more strength and will be fatal.
Frank33 @ 61
lessee, just how DID we do that? hmmmmm
dust off the manuals & git-it-done awreddy, fore he blows up the whole world.
Paris belongs in a land-fill in Banning.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 48
Bite yer tongue, lad. We’d still be in Vietnam.
Maybe Richard III wouldn’t be the best fit for today’s Washington. Perhaps Dante’s Inferno would be better??? hummmmmmm…
rosalind @ 63
IIRC, the CA GOP has recently hired a number of other non -citizens for their various positions, using H1B visas.
perris @ 69
not a laughing matter, not in this household anyway…
the inaugural event of this decades’-long coup d’etat occurred Nov 22, 1963…
the stability of USer political culture made it unnecessary to move swiftly to solidify their gains…they had (and have) all the time in the world…
.
David Ehrenstein @ 72
Whew! ;0)
Subway Serenade @ 73
;0)
Meanwhile, I know you’ll all be shocked, shocked to hear that Cheney’s firm Halliburton cooks the books, according to a former Halliburton employee.
“You tell me…”
Damn straight they stand out, Christy.
Good job.
The CIA was dragging their feet on joining “Warpimps-R-us!”, and Cheyney and Scooter, had to do some SERIOUS jawboning to get them in line. And of course, they were planning all along to institute another pogrom to houseclean all the spooks who wouldn’t lie like rugs, about what a threat Saddam was to all of christendom and the Dow-Jones, and to get Porter Goss in as CIA director, to vette all the bullshit-to-come, and to ensure
that there wouldn’t be any unpleasant skeletons popping out of Langley closets, down the road.
As pissed off as we are now, about bush turning the U.S. government into his own personal Koolaid factory, when he and the borgs are gone, and the real story of how they bullshitted the country into this misery comes
out, it will make your hair stand on end.
Steve @ 70
please tell me how you successfully bring criminal charges on someone in the highest office of the land. and while you’re at it, how you defuse their plans while you proceed, step by laborious step…
rosalind @ 63
California…Republicans…hire…illegal…aliens…(Not enough qualified neo-con US citizens are available.)
Phoenix Woman @ 80
NO WAY!!!
what a shocker THAT is
Links to my comments germane to this thread that I posted downstairs:
http://www.firedoglake.com/200…..ent-778900
http://www.firedoglake.com/200…..ent-778918
After you click on the first link, what comes to mind when you see that Glenn Reynolds expresses misgivings about Mr. Cheney’s perception of his role in the Bush Administration?
OT: How about a nice, heart-warming, up-lifting Dog Story?
noen @ 74
Richard III was actually a good guy by the standards of his time. The people that offed him, the Tudors, killed far more (including, it is likely, the very Princes in the Tower whose deaths are usually laid at Richard’s door) and were far nastier about it.
For example: When Henry Tudor’s forces took the throne after killing Richard Plantagenet at Bosworth Field — a throne Henry claimed by “de jure belli et de jure Lancastriae” (putting the alleged ‘right of conquest’ over his very weak blood-right) — the first thing Henry did was to back-date the start of his reign to the day before Bosworth.
Why? So he could then haul up the soldiers in Richard’s army on charges of treason against the king.
Sounds a lot like the crap Cheney would pull, doesn’t it?
Dakine01–
I haven’t learned how to respond to other commenters, but there are other possibilities for the CIA dump than that it was meant merely as a distraction from the Administration’s current woes. It could be intended to deflect attention away from something we don’t know about. Alternatively, it could be meant to hide something precisely because it is perceived to be a distraction.
The reason I’m interested, by the way, is that I’m convinved that much of the last six years are about past history that has come back to haunt us. Somewhere along the line, a lot of folks in the government appear to have been compromised. About what, and how, I’m not exactly sure.
Why do you think Cheney is so obsessed with secrecy? Why do you think he has pushed for torture? Why have so many people said that Cheney’s personality appeared to have changed drastically after 911?
Talk about cooking the books, lookit how the Bush boys and girls tell us what a great economy we have.
Dante did not like the usurers.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 39
Paris went to jail eventually, comparisons between her and Scooter will inevitably be made in the public mind even if not on softball Larry King. The celeberity obsesed nonpoltitical viewers of Larry King are not a demographic that FireDogLake had any hope of reaching. Scooter being compared less favorably to Paris Hilton in the public mind for fearing jail when Paris has done her time is a political meme we could only dream of. Although I admit there is no way I would watch the show.
Subway Serenade @ 73
In a sense, we still are. Democracy Now did an intense segment Friday on the ongoing effects of Agent Orange on the population there:
U.S. warplanes dumped about 18 million gallons of Agent Orange during the Vietnam War. The Vietnamese government says this has left more than 3 million people disabled. We speak with two Vietnamese Agent Orange victims and their lawyers about how the toxin has affected their lives and why they’re suing over three dozen U.S. chemical companies who manufactured it.
The report fails to mention either the 2 million there and elsewhere in the Mekong valleys who have ALREADY DIED from Ogent Orange exposure, or the other living disabled outside the borders of Vietnam.
Bush meets the President of Vietnam this week in the WH.
Democrat front runners: Action! Cameras! Roll ‘em!
I really get off on cluster bombs.
undecided @ 89
I don’t believe we are in disagreement here.
There quite likely are some clues for today’s world in those releases and I’m quite sure there are plenty of folks who will pour over all the information.
But the folks from previous admins still involved today are embedded in the records from the ’80s which are not beling released like Negroponte and Elliott Abrams.
Which is why all the bad things they did in the 50s, 60, and 70s become a distraction from the bad things they are doing today.
It is an appearance of openess rather than actual openess.
Adie @ 49
Impeachment isn’t going to happen, and the process would divert the Congress from exposure and documentation of the criminality. The best thing we can do with the current situation is to try to limit the damage, work to elect more Dems and restore the rule of law after 01/20/09. If these people aren’t vigorously prosecuted, this disease will come back with more strength and will be fatal.Adie @ 82
By exposing the infection to sunlight. The ‘06 election slowed the progress for the “Republican Majorities Forever Plan” and we have a little breathing room. There are still pockets of uncorrupted people in Government and MSM. Even though there has been massive obstruction of justice by the Republicans, there are still investigations and prosecutions going on. Ted Stevens is an example. People can be brought to justice, I just worry that when the Dems take over the machinery of government, they won’t have the political will to do it.
They’re not just any spiders.
Am I the only person here who goes through periods where I lose my reading glasses almost on an hourly basis? It isn’t that I can’t see them, I can’t find them!
dakine01 @ 74
Getting past those pesky Americans with H-1b Visas? Consider this a HOW TO…
Stealth is among Cheney’s most effective tools. Man-size Mosler safes, used elsewhere in government for classified secrets, store the workaday business of the office of the vice president. Even talking points for reporters are sometimes stamped “Treated As: Top Secret/SCI
This is one of my favorite parts. It’s so telling in every way. Wonder what that Ways and Means chair-room looked like before Rangel got him evicted. Charlie Rangel did evict him, right?
dakine01@9:08am: yup, the article mentions a gent from Canada they’ve just hired as political director using a H1B visa. a man with no statewide political experience.
Frank33@9:15am: you beat me to it! “The California GOP – importing labor to do the jobs american gop members are unwilling to do…”
Lou Costello @ 99
Beyond the ludicrous nature of a state political party hiring foreign nationals to run the party, it is also a mis-use of the H1B itself.
Note: I am not a fan of the H1B however it is used. I am in a field caled software quality assurance and testing which seems to be one of the preferred areas to outsource.
mui @ 100
;0)
Adie @ 59
He had an interview scheduled with Michael More that day, MM was rescheduled to make place for Hilton. (According to Spiegel online)
Dakine01 at 95 –
Yes, I have noticed the unusually high concentration of Bush Administration officials with connections to Iran-Contra, not the least of which is Dick Cheney. Sometimes I wonder if Bush knows anyone of national significance other than those involved in his father’s administration. I suspect he doesn’t know how to detect or attract real talent.
If you look at Iran-Contra, though, you will find that many of the players have connections that go back all the way to the Kennedy administration or Watergate. Curious, to say the least.
Tanbark at 80 — I thought that might need a little special emphasis, given how lax the reporting on that has been in the corproate media. That is one of those issues that Jane and I talk about over and over again…because we ought to ALL be talking about it.
grayslady @ 28
Ah….very good. Breadcrumb time, abbreviated version. Remember: In Order To Understand The Present, You Must Understand The Past.
And so?
1. Examine Team B. Research them. Study their methodology. Explore their tactics.
2. The Golden Key: tis a woman! Learn all you can about the teachings and writings of one Anne Hessing Cahn. Study her. From her, you learn more of Team B…what they were, and what they did.
Once you understand Ms. Cahn, you then understand “today”, and the machinations of Cheney. Good luck.
Ghostman
The CIA was Cheney’s cherry orchard and he picked his own fruit.
Banning was the rival town to where my father grew up, Beaumont. They actually beat Banning in football in 1938.
Ed*ard Teller @ 91
Oh we’ve done far better than Agent Orange to Iraq. For them we gave them Depleted Uranium. That stuff will be kicking around for the next 4 million years. Mixing with the dust and sand of the Iraqi desert it will be inhaled where it can sit and do real damage.
They’ve really outdone themselves with this one.
Phoenix Woman @ 80
How much of that overstatement of revenue is from Kellogg, Root, and Brown? Without looking at the notes to Halliburton’s financial statements, I have no way of knowing what percentage of its long-term contracts are accounted for using the percentage of completion method. Pending more research, I can think of no justification for recognizing all of the revenue from a long-term contract at the contract’s inception.
Apart from looking at the notes to Halliburton’s financial statements to read the statement of significant accounting policies contained therein and looking at Halliburton’s balance sheet for unbilled revenue appearing as a receivable or possibly some other current or noncurrent asset somewhere on its balance sheet to offset posting of overstated revenue in the statement of income, I would also look at Halliburton’s statement of cash flows. Assuming that cash flows from operations, investing activities, and financing activities are each stated accurately, it may be easy to determine whether unbilled revenue from contracts has been recognized and to what extent it has been recognized.
wgg: tokin lib’rul @ 77
And Dwight Eisenhower could see it coming almost three years before that. This is from his presidential farewell address:
Until the latest of our world conflicts, the United States had no armaments industry. American makers of plowshares could, with time and as required, make swords as well. But now we can no longer risk emergency improvisation of national defense. We have been compelled to create a permanent armaments industry of vast proportions. Added to this, three and a half million men and women are directly engaged in the defense establishment. We annually spend on military security alone more than the net income of all United States corporations.
Now this conjunction of an immense military establishment and a large arms industry is new in the American experience. The total influence — economic, political, even spiritual –is felt in every city, every Statehouse, every office of the Federal government. We recognize the imperative need for this development. Yet we must not fail to comprehend its grave implications. Our toil, resources, and livelihood are all involved. So is the very structure of our society.
In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military-industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist. We must never let the weight of this combination endanger our liberties or democratic processes. We should take nothing for granted. Only an alert and knowledgeable citizenry can compel the proper meshing of the huge industrial and military machinery of defense with our peaceful methods and goals, so that security and liberty may prosper together.
CIA-Cheney-Rove? Paris is much more vital. I think we sould be seeing a series of posts on ‘the importance of being Paris’.
Ed*ard Teller @ 111
I’m liking this.
Steve 96.
Thanks for expressing your views more fully. Maybe I’m too obsessed with the [immediate danger] aspect of the whole problem, but my strong gut feeling remains: get cheney out of power ASAP. He appears round-the-bend unreliable/unpredictable, and therefore, extremely dangerous. Far worse than Nixon on his worst days…
I hope I am wrong, and that your methodical approach rules, and saves, us all from this living nightmare.
I have made quite a few stabs at Greg Palast’s Armed Madhouse and I must say, I can only read a few pages before I slam the book down. Not angry at Palast. Just angry. Anyone else had this experience? I am skeptical of some of the things he writes, but with the “caging” part and the “New Orleans” part, I can almost feel an apoplexy coming on that I didn’t get during the congressional hearings. Perhaps it’s too much for me right now because of some of the personal sadness that’s going on in my life.
mulligatawny @ 104
No biggie. Michael can do better. ;->
OK. I’m done with Paris. Back to Hillary.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 48
I bet Nixon would have nasty things to say about son as he did father, just out of spite, because he would want to be the center of action.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 112
The last sane Republican: January 17th, 1961 – LINK
Raw Story: Fox pundit: Cheney in ’secured undisclosed bunker of his mind’
Nixon was just plain mean.
Cheney takes it to a different level, cold-blooded, ruthless, & illogical.
DigbyAdie @ 116
Oklahoma kiddo @ 40
His job was to make an incurious playboy look presidential, and catapult same to office by mobilizing a base in love with their own ignorance.
In return, he got to have his revenge on everyone who ever teased or picked on him, by global proxy.
Cheney’s job was to bring Darwinian corporatism onside, using his vast knowledge of the American government’s blind spots to direct a blunt force trauma wrapped in the Stars and Stripes upon domestic ‘ideological enemies’ and foreign exploitables alike.
In return, he gets vengeance against those who brought down his patron, and who rendered everything he believes in inoperative long ago.
Ed*ard Teller @ 111
Thanks for the quote from Eisenhower. I have started 50 American History survey courses with that quote as well as Margaret Mead’s famous quote (which of course I cannot recall at this time)
Always appreciate your wisdom
darkblack @ 123
Now this; I really like.
Billionaire, Richard Mellon Scaife has been in the CIA leadership for decades. It is interesting that his Wiki and several other websites fail to include this.
Information on this secretive, insider is scarce. He seems to be involved in “Operation Mockingbird”. I have no evidence that he has been part of the “false flag” black operations such as “Gladio”, but I would not be surprised.
Here are some links, but I do not know how accurate some of this is.
Bush-Cheney: Who’s zooming who?
Sympathy for the Devil far more appropriate than the Imperial March.
Adie @ 114
I agree, Bush is a psychopath being pushed into a corner and Cheney is evil and/or crazy. Bush, I think, really believes that he is smarter and is the only person who knows the “truth”. Bush has really fucked up the “long term plan” and has slipped his handlers. Watch out Iran..I really think he will do it..will the military stop him? that is the $64 question.
darkblack @ 123
And what gets me is that Hillary buys some of this BS. Like she talks about “dealing with Chavez.” What For?!? I want the next president to agree to disagree or agree to agree. None of this ominous “deal with . . .” Anyway Chavez has provided discount fuel to our poorest neighborhoods, New Haven included.
Jim Clausen @ 124
You’re welcome, especially as a fellow history – cultural history, though – teacher. I remember reading somewhere that he wrote it himself, with his speechwriter polishing it very little.
Sterve Parrish, CPA @ #120:
Every once in a while when Juan Williams says something like “This is all a dodge, this is a game in order to keep Dick Cheney in, I guess, some sort of secured undisclosed bunker of his mind,” I hope he’s finally found his spine. Then, when I hear him next, I realize somebody probably had merely thrust a couple extra toothpicks in his cocktail weenie.
OT..but interesting
Study: ‘Gay-friendly’ cities enjoy more economic prosperity
David Edwards and Josh Catone
Published: Saturday June 23, 2007
http://rawstory.com/news/2007/….._0623.html
Frank33 @ 126
thanks for the links, but i usually steer clear of unsubstantiated stuff – play it lazy & a bit safer by relying on FDL, HuffPo etc. etc. as filters of sorts. helps keep me from going completely off the deep end, heh.
I think the argument for impeaching Cheney is actually stronger than that for Bush. Cheney is involved in the nitty gritty details of unconstitutionality while Bush is napping or playing video games.
so the notion of the great white father has finally trickled down, ay?
aye @ 45
He’s grooming his successor?
Bob in HI
trifecta at 132 — Bush doesn’t get off that easily. He’s very involved in the big picture sweeping shit, as I hear it, it’s the nitty gritty “how you actually get things done” that he delegates to Rove and Cheney. They are the enforcers and the finders of ways to accomplish what he wants. But ultimately, it is what Bush wants — he is just as culpible as the others.
trifecta @ 132
Yesss!
however, both, actually – the latter for flat-out incompetence, eh?
Another thing about Cheney is that persons that worked with him in previous administrations talked of him being relatively normal to what he is now. That’s been a puzzle to me. I propose the chrysalis theory. He was incubating in his evil metaphorical cocoon, to become a full-fledged lunatic in the current administration.
Adie @ 132
The lake is not shallow, though, and most of us here can swim. People like Palast, Wayne Madsen, Mike Rivero, Justin Raimondo and others provide valuable assets to the information community. I almost put Michael Rense in with that group, but then said “Nah!” to myself. But even Rense is more factual at times than Judith Miller on a good day.
TexB @ 51
Good morning, Betsy!
IMHO, Dick is Viceroy for foreign affairs, Rove is Viceroy for Domestic Affairs (i.e., politics). Maybe one of the 3 WaPo articles on Cheney yet to come will deal with the relationship between Rove and Cheney.
Bob in HI
Private message to Christy: Sir Ian is playing King Lear later this year in New York. Please don’t tell anyone else until I’ve had a chance to get my tickets.
mui @ 129
Clinton has her own obligations…For the support that would place her at the pinnacle of power in a mysogynistic society doesn’t come cheap.
And in her own way, she is as much a creature of American bureaucracy as Cheney.
Never lose sight of the fact that President Bush is the driving force behind all that his underlings undertake.
Ed*ard Teller @ 139
Have you read Palast’s Armed Madhouse. I am very curious as to what people think. I sit on the fence and wait for opinions.
Christy’s upstairs with a new post already!
Bob The Zed
Fresh thready goodness, up and ready for the reading if you want it.
darkblack @ 142
I don’t want “product” for president. I want someone who can think and lead with reason. It is a darn shame that Hillary can’t be that person.
Christy.
Bush just as guilty, because of the [”Do it! I don’t care how. I don’t want to know how! I just want it done!”] style of leadership, eh.
One can be negligent &/or incompetent, and yet just as impeachable as the guy who knows all the details. right?
[hate it when i sound quite this stoopid, but tired of editing….]
Ed*ard Teller @ 111
ike wasn’t a naif…
he knew the threat of the military/inudstrial complex was actually the military/industrial/CONGRESSIONAL complex
he was persuaded by dulles at the very last moment to leave Congress out of the equation…
militarism has conquered the USofA
there is not a city or community of any size at all that doesn’t rely in some deep way upon the continued presence of military operations for their ‘economic health.’
until these levers are withdrawn and broken (nagahapun), the military/security/industrial complex will triumph here.
period.
Adie @ 131
A good idea. In the absence of any real evidence, conspiracy theories spin wildly out of control. As maddening as it is, when you have no evidence one way or another… well, that’s all you have. But people insist one spinning stories.. which is all that a conspiracy theory ever can be.
I hear those around me saying that they wouldn’t vote for Senator Clinton for president because she is a woman. I hear those close to me telling me that they would vote for the Senator because she is a woman. I find both viewpoints on the face of it, repugnant.
noen @ 150
Yep! Thanks noen.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 151
;->
Oklahoma kiddo @ 151
i wont vote for her, or support her, or campaign for her, or contribute to her.
if she gets the nomination, i will vote for her–but i come as close to praying as i ever get in my desire that she NOT be the nominee.
it has nothing to do with her genderm, and everything to do with what she owes to whom…
Oklahoma kiddo @ 151
Well what’s scarier is they are not judging and weighing what she is saying. Like some of her statements on Iran and Chavez. (Obama is a very annoying prevaricator unless pushed into a statement by the likes of Gravel and Kucinich.) I mean it’s very dangerous now not too keep a close watch on potential hawks. Plus I doubt she’d object much if New Orleans was turned into Disneyland. We haven’t gotten that much out of the candidates though have we? (Excluding Repugs since that’s just a lineup for the ghastly and ghastlier.) And that’s very important and significant as to how they view the handling of American and trade and etc. on the whole.
Somewhere I read that Cheney hauls around a a full-blown medical emergency facility on his travels. Now we find out he also hauls around man-sized safes. His life gets more and more complicated and his bulk increases with the passage of time, and his mortality has to be weighing heavily on his mind. Not a good place to be, but well deserved in this case.
Ed*ard Teller @ 139
oh yes. i’ve got a brain & occasionally use it *g*. my etc. covered a lot more – just got tired of listing – lotsa good’uns out there ;->
surfer @ 156
does he fit in that thing? huh!
mui @ 147
That’s a wonderful ideal, but the history of the modern American presidency is the history of ‘product’…Triumph of one brand over another.
Not wanting that state of affairs to continue will be a catalyst for meaningful change.
Frank Probst @ 141
EPUland here, but for all you Angelenos- Sir Ian is doing Lear @ UCLA this October- Royce Hall.
Last time I saw him here was in Ibsen’s An Enemy of the People @ the Ahmanson downtown. He is beyond description onstage live. Heaven…
tokin lib’rul@177
And this plays into the fact that Cheney’s approach is based, not on a Government, but a business model. In his mind Bush is the Chairman, he’s the Chief Operating Officer. The methodology described of sidelining those not likely to agree is sadly common in industry, perhaps especially defence, I know I’ve been there. In industry, it is a good way to get decisions quickly, and everyone knows that the chance of a decision being correct in its outcome is only remotely connected to the speed of the decision.
But this approach in Government has a name; it’s called fascism.
This non-American from the most loyal country is scared. We appear not to be able any longer to act on our own (the quote which most hurt me from the report was “even British authorities warning that they could not hand over suspects”.) BUT BLAIR GOES ON WEDNESDAY!!!!!!!!
Frank Probst @ 141
He just did it at Stratford. Didn’t see it but friends who did ay it was wonderful
Steve @ 96
It is not clear to me that you understand what impeachment does. In fact, the process of impeachment itself exposes and documents the criminality. Your opinion of what impeachment is seems to be distorted, perhaps by the impeachment of Clinton, which turned into a farce.
Bob in HI
undecided @ 7
The timing is VERY interesting. I too want to see what they dump. I know one thing, when they do release the info I’m going to be looking at what else is being reported that might not be getting much attention because of it.
Cheney expresses indifference, in public and private, to any verdict but history’s. . . .
History’s verdict is already clear. He is probably the most powerful vice president in our history, and he is certainly the worst vice president in our history. History will not let him off the hook. I’m guessing he’s indifferent to history’s verdict, too.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 40
he arranged for Paris to be on Larry King Live ……..
Oklahoma kiddo @ 151
to say nothing of stooopid …….
“This whole beginning of the unraveling of the Cheney machine brings to mind the well-played Sam Neill version of Cardinal Wolsey in The Tudors. (You really should be watching this show – it is brilliant, superbly acted, and the manifestations of ego and avarice are all too familiar”
I am reminded of a couple of great characters on the t.v. series Star Trek Deep Space 9. The local planet’s (Bajor) government was almost like a cult and there was a lot of in-fighting. Jaro Essa and Vedik Winn were fantastic characters acted by Frank Langella and Louise Fletcher.
http://www.startrek.com/startr…..w?id=13642
My bets with friends and enemies, about the disposition of the bush administration:
No one is going to be impeached. It won’t come to that. The Goldwater SWAT team will go over the white house and ask bush if he’d rather stay the course, or preside over the death of the republican party. Other “signers” of that little question:
The U.S. military and Wall St., and the old-line republicans, who have most of the economic power in america.
$20 bucks; with a friend, that Cheyney will resign for “health reasons” by THIS Nov. 22nd. (The date happened to be 6 months from the day we made the bet…no relationship to Kennedy’s assassination)
$20 bucks: with the same friend, that Rice will resign by the end of May, 2008. (If she waits much longer, her new gig in academia will be cleaning the urinals at Bob Jones University. :o) )
$20 with a closet-conservative who insists he’s an independent (He’s not.):
That BOTH Cheyney and Bush will resign before the Nov. 2008 elections.
My thinking: If you were a republican in a tight race in 2008, would you want those two assholes sitting there like slimy, blood-covered, perverted, buddhas, for the democrats to point to, as the Brits are pulling out, and Iraq is going into it’s death-spiral?
Our troop casualties will be well over 4,000 killed and 70-80 thousand wounded.
The tab will be something like $700 billion dollars.
The Turks will be flexing their muscles on the border with the Kurdish area.
Ahmadinejad will be dropping trou and mooning the U.S. ambassador to Iran (if there is one) every time he rattles junior’s toy sword.
The MSM-rats, finally discovering their inner antiwar selves, will be scampering down the hawser-lines faster than you can say:
“19% approval ratings”.
A year from now, George Bush will have so much value as a sacrificial goat that the congressional republicans will put him on a spit and sell tickets for the right to turn him for 1 minute.
You read it here first, you did. :o)
I think it is in dreadfully poor taste to illustrate anything having to do with the Vice President with anything having to do with sex. I now must go drink to excess in order to expunge the unavoidable mental imagery…
It continues to amaze me (it probably shouldn’t) that Republicans and Democrats in Congress are not thinking about their institutional interests.
Do Democrats, failing to impeach, understand that they are signing off on this behavior for future Presidents?
Do Republicans, failing to impeach, understand that they are signing off on this behavior by Democratic Presidents?
Shrug.
It’s like they are both dreamin’ of a dictatorship controlled by THEIR party…. rather than laying the foundation for a Congressionally controlled Republic which allows the executive to function with Congressionally defined parameters.
They just don’t seem to believe in that vision of democracy and law in any meaningful way.
They seem to have both, Democrats included, bought into a vision of power rather than a vision of law.
Steve @ 36
Indeed.
The problem for the ‘invisible conspiracy’ behind Cheney, the Federalist Society, Rove et. al. is that these folks are remarkably stupid and incompetent. Before ya start yellin’ consider this….
Just after 9/11 Bush and his cabal of conspirators had a near 90% approval rating and the entire World united behind them.
And now….
Not so fukin’ much, eh?
Any reasonably competent group should have been able to turn these advantages into a long term hegemony for their interests. The fact that they have not, read the polls homer, shows just how poorly equipped to govern they were and are.
Our job here in Left Blogistan is to nail this meme to Bush and Cheney’s foreheads and the ‘conservative’ movements ass for all time.
Christy, I believe you just made the argument for Cheney’s (Bush’s) pardon of Scooter Libby.
Local angle: I find it interesting that Yoo is talking now that he’s back in the civilized world (Berkeley). I know from a recent dinner party @ Stanford that Condi is requesting a return after its all over (rowdy debate as to whether or not to accept her). Wouldn’t it be nice if she started talking? I think she’ll have to in order to be accepted back into society.