I keep wondering HOW they communicate? How do so many people decide that nonsense about the VP not being a member of the Executive branch just might make sense? How do so many people decide that a convicted felon ought to be pardoned by POTUS, or just not even given a real sentence? These are not ideas that would even come into my head, and yet my “fellow citizens”, some fraction of them, arrive at these ideas all at the same time.

(tinfoil)Should we be scanning for implants? I mean, think about it: you can’t reach these conclusions by rational thinking; you can’t reach them by acting in your own self-interest; you can’t reach them by appealing to divine right. (/tinfoil)

Would someone point me to something that could help me understand how the right-wing apologists and noise function, think, feel, communicate? (I know I’m going to be revolted reading it, though.)

The phenomenon being inquired about was illuminated in a film some time ago, an icon of its genra, re: PodPeople. Understand PodPeople, understand TehBase. ;-/

christy –

sam sedar has you listed as part of the panel for his show tomorrow. i look forward to hearing that.

Oops, had skipped ahead to make comments and didn’t see that you had already mentioned Sam’s show. :-}

I really enjoy listening to him, though I do miss his daily show. (shaking head)

Judge Walton’s and his clerk’s memorandum opinion and Team Fitz’s reply brief filed 6/22 would make it impossible for any fair panel to give Libby an appeal bond or any actual relief in the main appeal to follow.

Fitz and his Special Counsel team unmasked Team Robbins’ specious and off-point arguments.

Christy Hardin Smith @ 64

TheOtherWA at 60 — The talk show folks aren’t interested in booking anyone who knows this side of the issues. Remember that Tim Russert is the “best forum” for Cheney? There is a reason or two why that is — and they sure as hell don’t want anyone talking about the whys of that, now do they?

It’s a cozy little symbiotic smarmfest they have going on there, and they aren’t about to risk it by giving the likes of me or Jane or Marcy or anyone else who closely followed the issues an opportunity to talk about it.

The one news network that doesn’t have a big Sunday morning show is MSNBC. I wonder what it would take to get Dan Abrams to set Keith Olbermann up with an hourlong talkfest where he would bring in the best of the blogosphere for a given issue, and have at it.

Not a shoutfest of net-talkers, but pick the issue du jour and find the netizens with the passion to have followed the story, the chops to know what they’re doing when they follow it, and the ability to talk about it coherently in public.

Oh, and one more rule for this show: no one who lives around DC is allowed to appear. Call it “Beyond the Beltway.”

Not teevee, but still…

There is a radio version of this you can listen to, although it’s only a segment of the full show. Christy has been a guest in the past and will be on tomorrow:

The Sam Seder Show

Yay! Christy!

I keep wondering HOW they communicate? How do so many people decide that nonsense about the VP not being a member of the Executive branch just might make sense? How do so many people decide that a convicted felon ought to be pardoned by POTUS, or just not even given a real sentence? These are not ideas that would even come into my head, and yet my “fellow citizens”, some fraction of them, arrive at these ideas all at the same time.

(tinfoil)Should we be scanning for implants? I mean, think about it: you can’t reach these conclusions by rational thinking; you can’t reach them by acting in your own self-interest; you can’t reach them by appealing to divine right. (/tinfoil)

Would someone point me to something that could help me understand how the right-wing apologists and noise function, think, feel, communicate? (I know I’m going to be revolted reading it, though.)

Thank you for putting into words my feelings/wonderment so exactly! Whew.

In my efforts to comprehend the mindset of these people, my brain just can’t even begin to make out the shape of their psychi, or, lack there of.

Sometimes I swear I’m burning calories over this.

i hear that all the time – this is “political”. What the hell does that mean, ya know? Fitz isn’t political and it was the bush doj that appointed him. how is it political? did your friend in FL say?

But as long as we’re getting things off our chests, I just get soooo pissed to hear the usual suspects attacking Fitz’s integrity and his judgment and characterizing him as an “out of control” prosecutor who “had to indict somebody.” Look, in my view, Fitz showed great restraint and discretion.He could have dragged Cheney’s fat ass in front of the GJ but chose not to do so. And if he was so out of control and just looking to indict a big fish, he’d have gone ahead and indicted Rove. I knew nothing about Fitz before this (even though we went to the same school)but when he was appointed the unanimous book on him was that he was an apolitical, straightshooter (who keeps socks in his desk. How these knuckleheads like Cohen, Hitchens, Carlson, etc. can say the things they’re saying is beyond me. What’s worse is people are picking up on this smear job. And now it’s Walton. Hitchens (he really got me pissed if ya can’t tell) says he’s “playing politics.” What the hell is that supposed to mean? He’s got life tenure. He doesn’t have to play politics.

Grrrrrrrr.

One more thing. You’re dead on about defense counsel’s use of a pr team and how scummy that is. But when so many members of that pr machine are attorneys themselves who MUST know better, it’s sad.

Fingers crossed. Any panel with Sentile is cause for concern. Fingers crossed. Keep up the great work – you and everyone else at FDL.

Thank you Christy.

Wonderful to have this analysis available.

That goes for me too Christy. Just got back from Ft. Lauderdale and this post was a welcome surprise. I spent the night at a republican’s house and we argued the Libby case to no avail. He has it in his head that Valerie was not a covert officer and that this was a pure political case and Libby should never have been tried. I tried to explain it to him until 4:30 this morning and got nowhere. He stormed into his room telling me that all I have to do is watch the news and I would see that I had my facts all wrong and I shouldn’t believe what I read on blogs. It was an amazing night and I surely know he will not be doing any googling to see if he was the one who has the facts wrong. I believe that the Comstocks in the world are doing a dis-service to their voting blok and it will come back to bite them in the ass. But until we have a press who once again cherish the values of journalism, people like my republican friend remain blinded by the right. The last thing he said when he stormed out of the room was “Everything is not a conspiracy”. I could not get through to him. Nothing I could ever say to him would make him not vote republican. What a depressing night and I know that it ended our 15 year friendship. In his heart, he deeply believes that I am a wild-eyed lefty who thrives on conspiracies. We will never, ever gather votes away from this block.

i don’t know how, but ive somehow missed hearing the expression “traitorgate” before. its an appropriate word.

there are over 40 people who depend on me to read blogs & other alternative news sources daily & then send out emails w/ the facts i learn that they can’t find in the msm. from now on, i’m going to refer to this story as traitorgate in those emails, rather then refer to it as the libby trial, or the outing of valerie plame.

maybe the word will catch on. if it did, it would certainly make it more difficult for others to misidentify him as a patriot, or a hero.

sam sedar has you listed as part of the panel for his show tomorrow. i look forward to hearing that.

thanks for all the time spent reviewing, analyzing & writing about traitorgate. your work has travelled far & wide.

best ~