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	<title>Comments on: Saturday Block Party:  Too Sexy For Their Shirts</title>
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		<title>By: S.O.S. from MA</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/06/23/saturday-block-party-2/#comment-779469</link>
		<dc:creator>S.O.S. from MA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jun 2007 21:58:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;IMHO Facebook (FB) is the wrong tool upon which to expand the current success of FDL.  There are existing tools (that I sketched in a summary and some URLs, in an email to Siun IIRC) that can do the job, and quite handily too I might add.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The required anonymity upon which FDL is missing, for good reason, in FB.  That’s because it was designed, properly, to let people form networks, and real names are required for that, when different networks want to combine.  But most FDLers will shy away from that initial requirement, and then are confronted with much more social complexity than FDL needs, IMHO.  Why should I care about “being friended?”  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;That’s not the FDL ethos, where anyone can visit and comment, and thus build up their FDL persona.  Why, in order to retain my own anoymity, I had to struggle in order to make FB accept my pseudonym:  So there, I’m “SOS von MA.”  Others have resorted to similar stratagems — some worse than others.  How would I know, for example, that Pach was participating in FB as “firedoglake?”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In my memos, I have analyzed what I believe to be FDL’s current most desperate need:  the ability to carry on conversations after the life of whatever’s the current base-post has completed.  What is needed, imho, is a simple web-based BBS adapted to the FDL blog, which would be largely untouched — still the best community on the web.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I’d appreciate some feedback.  Preferably via email, since there’s no way I could ever find my way back to this defunct string.  I only happened on it by accident.  Whereas if there had been a BBS topic, that problem would not exist.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Thanks for listening, if indeed your eye falls on this lost post.  And thanks, from the bottom of my heart, for the hard work, conviction and inspiration you have shown in creating and nurturing FDL.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;/SOS from MA&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IMHO Facebook (FB) is the wrong tool upon which to expand the current success of FDL.  There are existing tools (that I sketched in a summary and some URLs, in an email to Siun IIRC) that can do the job, and quite handily too I might add.  </p>
<p>The required anonymity upon which FDL is missing, for good reason, in FB.  That’s because it was designed, properly, to let people form networks, and real names are required for that, when different networks want to combine.  But most FDLers will shy away from that initial requirement, and then are confronted with much more social complexity than FDL needs, IMHO.  Why should I care about “being friended?”  </p>
<p>That’s not the FDL ethos, where anyone can visit and comment, and thus build up their FDL persona.  Why, in order to retain my own anoymity, I had to struggle in order to make FB accept my pseudonym:  So there, I’m “SOS von MA.”  Others have resorted to similar stratagems — some worse than others.  How would I know, for example, that Pach was participating in FB as “firedoglake?”</p>
<p>In my memos, I have analyzed what I believe to be FDL’s current most desperate need:  the ability to carry on conversations after the life of whatever’s the current base-post has completed.  What is needed, imho, is a simple web-based BBS adapted to the FDL blog, which would be largely untouched — still the best community on the web.</p>
<p>I’d appreciate some feedback.  Preferably via email, since there’s no way I could ever find my way back to this defunct string.  I only happened on it by accident.  Whereas if there had been a BBS topic, that problem would not exist.</p>
<p>Thanks for listening, if indeed your eye falls on this lost post.  And thanks, from the bottom of my heart, for the hard work, conviction and inspiration you have shown in creating and nurturing FDL.</p>
<p>/SOS from MA</p>
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		<title>By: CatelynK</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/06/23/saturday-block-party-2/#comment-778677</link>
		<dc:creator>CatelynK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jun 2007 07:00:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I had trouble navigating Facebook, but the FDL group gave me the incentive to be kewler than I usually am. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;As for guilt about breaking Facebook’s rules . . . huh? This from a hard-nosed play-straight kinda gal. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;But because I think it necessary to keep my political opinions, often expressed with considerable snark, separate from my professional identity, I use a pseudonym and an avatar that isn’t me. I’m certainly track-downable, but not worth the trouble to do that.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And I won’t be doing any harm on Facebook. I also felt the usual Catholic guilt for violating rules, any rules, which proves that decades of churchly schooling endures like kudzu. I’ll probably find it necessary to do penance of some sort. Maybe watch all of Bush’s next presser, if he dares to have another.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had trouble navigating Facebook, but the FDL group gave me the incentive to be kewler than I usually am. </p>
<p>As for guilt about breaking Facebook’s rules . . . huh? This from a hard-nosed play-straight kinda gal. </p>
<p>But because I think it necessary to keep my political opinions, often expressed with considerable snark, separate from my professional identity, I use a pseudonym and an avatar that isn’t me. I’m certainly track-downable, but not worth the trouble to do that.</p>
<p>And I won’t be doing any harm on Facebook. I also felt the usual Catholic guilt for violating rules, any rules, which proves that decades of churchly schooling endures like kudzu. I’ll probably find it necessary to do penance of some sort. Maybe watch all of Bush’s next presser, if he dares to have another.</p>
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		<title>By: persiflage</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/06/23/saturday-block-party-2/#comment-778543</link>
		<dc:creator>persiflage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jun 2007 05:50:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;OK, I don’t want to upset anyone or anything but all this talk of how to get away with breaking the rules on FB bother me a lot.  How can we sit here fuming about rule-breaking by members of the Administration while we gleefully chat about doing the same thing, on a much, much smaller scale on FB.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, I don’t want to upset anyone or anything but all this talk of how to get away with breaking the rules on FB bother me a lot.  How can we sit here fuming about rule-breaking by members of the Administration while we gleefully chat about doing the same thing, on a much, much smaller scale on FB.</p>
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		<title>By: msmolly</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/06/23/saturday-block-party-2/#comment-778306</link>
		<dc:creator>msmolly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jun 2007 04:13:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-778102&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;punaise @ 90&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-777973&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;msmolly @ 85&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;I still don’t understand 707, but I will learn. You all are great!!
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;it originates with LOL - laughing out loud. some knucklehead inverted it to upside-down LOL = 707, as if you were laughing so hard that you tipped over backwards in your chair.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;welcome!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Ah, thanks! TOO funny! I’ll learn! Also, hopefully, Facebook. I think my grandkids are into that!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-778102"><em>punaise @ 90</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-777973"><em>msmolly @ 85</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>I still don’t understand 707, but I will learn. You all are great!!
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<p>it originates with LOL &#8211; laughing out loud. some knucklehead inverted it to upside-down LOL = 707, as if you were laughing so hard that you tipped over backwards in your chair.</p>
<p>welcome!</p>
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<p>Ah, thanks! TOO funny! I’ll learn! Also, hopefully, Facebook. I think my grandkids are into that!</p>
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		<title>By: punaise</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/06/23/saturday-block-party-2/#comment-778102</link>
		<dc:creator>punaise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jun 2007 02:31:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-777973&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;msmolly @ 85&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;I still don’t understand 707, but I will learn. You all are great!!
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;it originates with LOL - laughing out loud. some knucklehead inverted it to upside-down LOL = 707, as if you were laughing so hard that you tipped over backwards in your chair.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;welcome!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-777973"><em>msmolly @ 85</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>I still don’t understand 707, but I will learn. You all are great!!
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<p>it originates with LOL &#8211; laughing out loud. some knucklehead inverted it to upside-down LOL = 707, as if you were laughing so hard that you tipped over backwards in your chair.</p>
<p>welcome!</p>
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		<title>By: Poopyman</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/06/23/saturday-block-party-2/#comment-778094</link>
		<dc:creator>Poopyman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jun 2007 02:26:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Call me Poopyman Firepup.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;But really, I don’t know how much I’ll visit Facebook. Most of my FDL time is from work (gasp!), and Facebook is blocked.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Call me Poopyman Firepup.</p>
<p>But really, I don’t know how much I’ll visit Facebook. Most of my FDL time is from work (gasp!), and Facebook is blocked.</p>
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		<title>By: Leg Firedoglake</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/06/23/saturday-block-party-2/#comment-778033</link>
		<dc:creator>Leg Firedoglake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jun 2007 01:41:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Call me Leg Firedoglake.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Call me Leg Firedoglake.</p>
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		<title>By: wangdangdoodle</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/06/23/saturday-block-party-2/#comment-777995</link>
		<dc:creator>wangdangdoodle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jun 2007 01:11:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I signed up at facebook but can’t figure out how to post a comment to a discussion board thread.  I tried to on Tom’s &lt;em&gt;I know your name, but who are you?&lt;/em&gt; thread, but ended up sending a message to Tom only.  Couldn’t find an FAQ or a new user guide either.  And navigating is a beyotch, I couldn’t get to where I was without using the Back button up top, or the history on the Back button drop down menu.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I signed up at facebook but can’t figure out how to post a comment to a discussion board thread.  I tried to on Tom’s <em>I know your name, but who are you?</em> thread, but ended up sending a message to Tom only.  Couldn’t find an FAQ or a new user guide either.  And navigating is a beyotch, I couldn’t get to where I was without using the Back button up top, or the history on the Back button drop down menu.</p>
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		<title>By: msmolly</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/06/23/saturday-block-party-2/#comment-777974</link>
		<dc:creator>msmolly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jun 2007 01:01:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;OOPS. Scratch previous post at 85. I don’t want my full name out there, lest it attract malware and other stuff.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OOPS. Scratch previous post at 85. I don’t want my full name out there, lest it attract malware and other stuff.</p>
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		<title>By: msmolly</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/06/23/saturday-block-party-2/#comment-777973</link>
		<dc:creator>msmolly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jun 2007 01:00:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I began my perusal of the liberal blogosphere with  Kos, but quickly migrated to TPM and FDL, where I have been lurking for some time. Amazing how attracted I am to FDL and the long, friendly, intimate threads. You feel like friends, and you don’t even know me. Later tonight or tomorrow I will dip a toe into Facebook, and try to sign on as a friend. Have patience with a 64-year-old liberal. I may not post much, but I love reading. It took some time to figure out “zed” and I still don’t understand 707, but I will learn. You all are great!!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;Mod note: name repair by request&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I began my perusal of the liberal blogosphere with  Kos, but quickly migrated to TPM and FDL, where I have been lurking for some time. Amazing how attracted I am to FDL and the long, friendly, intimate threads. You feel like friends, and you don’t even know me. Later tonight or tomorrow I will dip a toe into Facebook, and try to sign on as a friend. Have patience with a 64-year-old liberal. I may not post much, but I love reading. It took some time to figure out “zed” and I still don’t understand 707, but I will learn. You all are great!!</p>
<p><em>Mod note: name repair by request</em></p>
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