Good God. Is Tim Pawlenty determined to make it impossible to admit to being a Minnesotan?
Let’s see:
There’s his determination to buff up his paleocon credentials (and insure his place as McCain’s VP pick) by shutting down state government by refusing to sign a budget.
There’s his insistence on placating David Strom of the Minnesota (Rich) Taxpayer’s League by keeping his disastrously destructive 2003 tax cuts in place and continuing to shift more of the tax burden from rich people and onto poor people in the form of clever tricks like his infamous “fees”.
Then we find out that his precious tax cuts, which were touted as a way to promote job growth in Minnesota, haven’t done diddly for it: Minnesota’s unemployment average, which under Democratic governors and legislatures was the lowest in the nation, is now, for the first time since records started being kept three decades ago, HIGHER than the national average — a fact that shocks and saddens those of us Minnesotans who remember the prosperity we enjoyed during Wendy Anderson’s time as governor over thirty years ago.
But of course Pawlenty’s administration still is very “business-friendly”, which apparently translates into “workers can just bleep off and die — literally“:
The Star Tribune reported Sunday that the Health Department discovered in early 2006 that 35 more miners were stricken with mesothelioma in 1997-2005 — twice as many miner cancer cases as discovered in the previous nine-year period. But health officials suppressed the information while they planned more research. They eventually announced two more planned studies, and the news of the 35 miners, in March of this year.
The delay prompted bitter criticism of the department by outside public health experts, the United Steelworkers, which represents most miners, and state legislators. They said the state’s 4,000 Iron Range miners had a right to know of the cancer findings right away.
Mesothelioma typically occurs in the lung lining, and it develops decades after exposure to asbestos fibers. It is always fatal.
But of course it’s all OK, because Minnesota Department of Health Commissioner Dianne Mandernach has apologized. Awww, how sweet.
Mandernach, by the way, was apparently picked to be Health Commish four years ago by Pawlenty because she’s really, really anti-choice. How anti-choice? Anti-choice to the point where she let the local anti-choice group, MCCL, use her agency to push the “abortion causes breast cancer” lie. But I digress.
In any event, Pawlenty says that her actions (or lack thereof) with regard to the dead miners do not rise “to the level of termination”. Funny thing: As Tom Elko points over at The Sky Blue Waters Report, Pawlenty said the same thing about the actions of now-former Minnesota Pollution Control Authority commissioner (and former 3M environmental manager) Cheryl Corrigan, “despite the fact that she suppressed research into the 3M chemicals that would, years later, be found in East Metro [St. Paul and suburbs] wells and local lakes. Corrigan was unceremoniously dismissed four months before Pawlenty’s reelection.” As Elko points out, Pawlenty should have to answer as to why the consistent suppression of health information, vital to the public interest, is occurring in more than one of the state’s agencies.
And now, as sort of a self-serving cherry on this craptacular sundae, we find out that he’s determined to install a private-college student (and hyper-conservative activist), Luke Hellier, as a “trustee” in the Minnesota State Colleges and Universities System, thus taking the fox-in-the-henhouse concept to hitherto unexplored depths. And it’s not the first time that T-Paw’s done this: He pulled a similar maneuver four years ago when he shoved unqualified conservative activist Tyler Despins down the MnSCU’s throat without even bothering to check with the Minnesota State University Students Association, as he’s supposed to do by law. [UPDATE: It has come to my attention that Pawlenty's fan base among the local blogger and radio community is up in arms that Hellier's being picked on by us mean ol' liberals. Of course, what they don't mention is that none of us liberals had any complaints about the credentials of Adam Weigold, who like Hellier is a conservative Republican, but who (unlike Hellier) actually attended MnSCU schools and worked with the statewide student association.]
Wow, cronyism AND contempt for the law (not to mention the lives of ordinary citizens): Sounds a lot like a certain Republican currently occupying 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, doesn’t it?
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Bada bing!
Here are some really pretty pictures from Portland – couldn’t believe they stayed up for so long…
http://freewayblogger.blogspot…..tland.html
Seattle’s next.
My understanding is that the great state of Minnesota is traditionally progressive.
Gawd. Don’t you just love the sound of “Minnesota”?
PW, may I go OT with a thought for a future post?
This post makes me sad. Growing up in North Dakota, I always saw Minnesota as a great progressive oasis. I hate to think that it is being ruined.
I have been sick for a long time over the damage he has done to our wonderful state.
Ah, the culture of corruption does seem to have spread like the plague.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 3
It is — we just had the same probs everyone else did, with right-wing talk radio taking over the airwaves and appealing to people’s worst instincts. We’re getting over that now, but Pawlenty barely won re-election last year (thanks to a couple of dumb moves by the Democratic candidate in the weeks before the election) and thus he thinks he can be a little dictator just like Bush.
I’m having such a time warp moment, Phoenix Woman: as a high school and college student in the 70’s, Minnesota stood for all things progressive: patient rights, health policy, deinstitutionalization of the mentally ill with the replacement of community-based services, public health policy and programs. What happened up yonder?
The biggest regressive bunch of patient-hating nurses and doc bloggers are from the Twin Cities area, as well (followed closely by their Texas counterparts – just saying’ that if you land in a TX or MN emergency department, you might want to have another person with you to advocate for you, as this bunch is defending King-Harbor staff who ignored the woman who writhed until she died on the waiting room floor in full view of staff).
OT to read later: I think this may be the motherlode scandal that is brewing, and I think it will explain why 4th Branch and now, as of today, Bush suddenly are claiming they don’t need to abide by the classified info rules. The DOJ is now investigating this, and with Gonzo still there, they may try to obstruct the investigation the way they did in Britain:
http://baltimorechronicle.com/…..loyd.shtml
Oklahoma kiddo @ 3
Democratic-Farm Labor Party of Minnesota gave us Hubert Humphrey, Walter Mondale, and Paul Wellstone among others.
LS @ 11
Yikes!
Let’s keep watching.
janda @ 6
We’re slowly recovering, Janda — we got both houses of the state lege back this year, and the public backs our bills — but Pawlenty won re-election by the skin of his teeth so he thinks he can be a dictator.
I’m going to look into whether we can hold a recall election.
dakine01 @ 12
;0)
Ah, it has become lake woe fer sure. So sad. I have always looked up to Minnesota for progressive social institutions. How long before you guys throw the bastards out?
Last year in an interview Pawlenty characterized the public school system as a “cabal”.
This year he refused to pass education bill until sex-ed portion was removed.
He certainly doesn’t listen to former Minnesota republican legislators or governors who do value education & publicly say so.
After y’all fix MN, please let me know if there is any hope at all of restoring sanity to Texas.
Ann Richards, Barbara Jordan —- we miss you!
TexB: When will we see the likes, and the lights of Ann Richards and Barbara Jordan again. Jordan, what a dynamic speaker! And then there is the loss of the likes of Wellstone. What a loss to our society.
N=1 @ 10
Two things: 1) White-flighters from out of state came to Minnesota for the quality of life, but didn’t want to pay for it, so they all settled in the suburbs and exurbs just as 2) racist talk radio took over the AM band thanks to Reagan’s ramming through the 1987 repeal of the Fairness Doctrine.
But things are getting better: As the ‘burbs grow, they realize that they can’t just run away from black and brown people, but must learn to live and work together.
Oh, yes. While most Minnesotans are sane, we do have a strain of bigots that stand with the worst offered anywhere. They’d largely shut up in the 1960s and ’70s, but Reagan emboldened them, as he did bigots everywhere.
Minnesota also has a lot of very wealthy old corporate families…in areas like Wayzata.
sofistic @ 16
We’ve thrown a lot out already, but they still have enough to sustain Pawlenty’s vetoes. If Hatch had won, we’d be much better off.
But 2008 is drawing nearer, and we’re poised to take more seats from them, enough to override vetoes. (And as I mentioned earlier, I’m going to see about possibly recalling Smilin’ Tim. I don’t think it’s possible, but I’d like to know for sure.)
Sounds like some of those ‘white-flighters’ might have flitted this way thinking because the Aryan Nations once hung out here it was acceptable. It never was.
LS @ 21
And Dellwood, and Sunfish Lake, and North Oaks, and of course all the spots around Lake Minnetonka.
Though there’s been a bit of a split lately — many of the old-money Republican folks don’t like the new crowd, who got their manners and their ideas on the rule of law from Rush Limbaugh and Michael “Savage” Weiner. (The clash between Tom Heffelfinger’s fans and the Rachel Paulose partisans is a case in point.)
Texas will be blue one day, TexB. As will we (in Okla.) be. I have tons of family in the Lone Star State. I’m usually in Texas about twice a month. Love it!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v…..s&NR=1
How so many Minnesotans can be so foggy minded to vote Pawlenty back in just bewilders me. Until I went to my quilt group and two women I respect greatly were ’sad’ because they had voted for Bush and regretted it. I asked why (mumble under breath) did they vote for him AGAIN? They both responded they thought he had — get this — more family values. I guffawwed in their face. I said this is the man who has ruined every business he has ever owned, who drank, and more, until recent years, and who thinks torture is grand.
They just looked down and we said no more. That family values, religion schtick he does persuaded all those who do not pay close attention. Rove has always maintained he goes after the ‘low attention’ voter. and he wins with them.
2008 will be another scam to persuade even those who are not paying attention to vote with them. Watch for it. If dems don’t defend themselves and call out the crimes of the republicans, they will win again. And I repeat, PW, send me some of your optimisim for the 2008 prez election. I have none.
LS @ 8:45 am – I hope Marcy (and possibly Josh Marshall also) will delve into the story you’ve brought to our attention.
NE Minnesota & the Iron Range has been represented by mostly Democrats for a long time. We have some real fighters up here but Pawlenty has done his best to cut funds for our area. Ironically, he loves our local beautiful Lake Vermilion & has looked for property on the lake. Interesting that he would want to live, even if part time, in an area with a popluation he doesn’t think deserves any support or improvements.
Phoenix Woman @ 24
You are so right. I went to my last 2 years of HS there, in fact, there were Heffelfinger girls in my class, twins as I remember. I lived in Wayzata, and I knew a lot of that old crowd. They were the old type of Republican, not at all what we are seeing today as you describe. They were not fundies at all.
Phoenix Woman @ 14
Good luck with your efforts. If it is legally possible, the shift in the national mood against the GOP, and MN’s tradition of progressivism, might make it happen.
OT…maybe -
We have a wingnut who did win and is now sitting as a freshmen representative. Recently something was sent out that was framed as a “legislative update” on education, etc. However, it sure resembles a four-page, glossly, slick campaign brochure.
Now according to the rep’s office, the “update’ was mailed out to approx. 85,000 households. In the district, there is between 120-150,000 voting households. Questions are being raised as to what list was used for this particular mailing? Only to contributors and supporters?
Is this legal? As an elected official can mailings via their legislative office be used for the official’s reelection campaign – at the expense of the taxpayer?
[Someone last night mentioned franking privileges.]
Phoenix Woman,
Per this you can have a recall. It would be tough but…
Wordsmith @ 23
Ah, you live in the Coeur d’Alene area, Wordsmith? Lovely place, it is.
Digby points out that Bloggers have been reporting on the Unitary Cheney Branch of Government since February.
Digby includes a quote that suggests Bush/Cheney actually are part of the Zeroth Branch of Government. The Executive Order only applies to the Executive Branch and not the President and vice-President. This 0-th branch needs no stinking rules about classified information. Further, the 0-th rules are not what they say but what they mean to say.
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The executive order that Bush issued in March 2003 covers all government agencies that are part of the executive branch and, although it doesn’t specifically say so, was not meant to apply to the vice president’s office or the president’s office, a White House spokesman said.
Thanks for the explanation. I’m glad that it’s getting better, too. But what a rotten fight to have to fight….
That white flight is now morphing into very dangerous bright flight – flight of scientists, researchers and people with advanced education from the US as dogma over science and partisanship over policy is purging the jobs and value of these folks. How do we as a nation recover from that? I fear us reaching a tipping point from the multi-headed hydra of theocracy, partisan contamination of governmental agencies and worker rights erosion, not to mention the devastating stances on healthcare and education.
There is a lovely blogger, grrlscientist, who has been seeking work in her field for a long time. She blogs about employers replacing her with compliant green carded foreign workers.
Frank33 @ 34
Ever heard the word CHUTZPAH????
Frank33 @ 34
Me thinks they have strayed out of line a little too far this time.
We are having our own problems here is California. We used to have the best education system in the US, and the best higher education system in the world. Now, we are at the bottom in the US. I spent my professional career in higher ed, partly in Oregon, partly in California, and it was disheartening to see the decline and fall of the higher ed system.
sofistic @ 38
Ronnie Raygun to the rescue…
OT..Eight US killed so far today; 33 this week..Bush, I am sure, is breathless with excitement thinking about how many are going to be killed in August.
http://icasualties.org/oif/prd…..Ref=6-2007
In California it was prop 13; in Oregon it was the refusal to institute a sales tax and rely only on property tax.
Hi GrandmaJ!
How you doin’ these days? Settled in o.k.?
Ridin’ any more horses?
Hope you’re doing well. ;->
GrandmaJ @ 26
2008 will work out just fine, GrandmaJ. And Edwards will win, probably as part of an Edwards-Obama ticket.
I wasn’t going to say anything earlier, but you needed the reassurance. :-)
As for Smilin’ Tim and Marty “Soap Suds” Seifert, they’ll be made to pay. You’d think that they’d have learned from the sight of so many of their most vicious GOP allies in the Lege going down in defeat, but like Moses’ foe Pharaoh, their asses are going to have to get kicked a little bit harder. (Also, I suspect that once McCain’s campaign collapses, Pawlenty will give up his dreams of getting onto the presidential ticket and stop sucking up quite so hard to the GOP base.)
Steve @ 40
Gets him all cocky and makes his fake accent thicker. It’s Bush’s v*ag*a.
~~~ModNote: edited to clear filters.~~~
OT..More Iraq news..
Iraq Push Revives Criticism of Force Size
Baghdad Offensive May Shift Violence Elsewhere
By Thomas E. Ricks
Washington Post Staff Writer
Saturday, June 23, 2007; A01
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/…..13_pf.html
LS @ 44
That’s a chilling page, your link. Wow. Thanks.
N=1 @ 35
It’s getting better, definitely. Our new state Attorney General, Mark Ritchie, is a big fan of helping everyone vote — quite a contrast from his predecessor, Mary Kiffmeyer, who was as nutty and partisan as they come. (Plus, Ritchie is one of the people behind Peace Coffee!)
Yup. Don’t worry about the guys from Oaxaca coming over the border at night to work in the fields and at the slaughterhouses; worry about Bill Gates lobbying Congress to let him import and exploit tech workers from India and China that he’ll pay a fraction of what they’d get as citizens here, then ship them back home to build him new Microsofts so he can totally leave the US in the next five to ten years.
newtonusr @ 46
Brought a question to my mind. Saudi hijackers – who paid them/their families…has anyone ever looked into that…just sayin’
LS @ 44
I really would not be surprised if the little psychopath doesn’t wish for more Kia’s. Manual sexual pleasure get better and better with more death. I keep wondering what is going to happen in August.
Hillary Clinton lies when she says there is a shortage of scientists and engineers. Hillary wants more H-1B visas to give US technical jobs to foreigners. This lowers wages and benefits for Americans.
Why does Hillary hate American scientists and engineers?
More on our excellent new state AG Mark Ritchie’s enterprise, Peace Coffee. (Highly recommended!)
I am reading a book just out by a former teacher, principal, & superintendent on the Iron Range. In 1986 Judith Pearson applied for a principal position in the school district but a less qualified man got the job. She tells a riveting story of the job/sex discrimination lawsuit that followed. (BTW, this happened less than an hour away from the famous mining compay/sex harrassment case that was written about in the book “Class Action” & portrayed in the movie “North Country”.)
Judith Pearson’s book is called “Plaintiff Blues” available on Amazon, Barnes & Noble & her new website, plaintiffblues.com. Her website includes her blog encouraging discussion on this topic & other issues such as NCLB & our current political issues.
In the preface of the book: “If you had been a man, you would have had the job.” and “Hell will freeze over before we hire a woman principal at the Cook High School.”
Phoenix Woman @ 33
**Big-assed sigh**
Noooo…..I’m in Boise. Coeur d’Alene is lovely. Actually though, Boise lies on the cusp of that beautiful country….it starts from here and goes up. Of course, you’re talking to someone from farm country who thinks most any land is beautiful!
Although off topic, here is some fun reading from Raw Story: DC madam says she may announce decision to distribute phone records
There’s more, assuming that she has invoices she has issued to her customers (rather than invoices from her cell phone company) as well as cell phone records (emphasis mine):
Phoenix Woman @ 47
The Democrats must NOT put that immigration bill through – it will be political suicide. I’m afraid it’ gone too far. KKKarl is laughing at the impending disaster the Dems will create.
newtonusr @ 46
Here is the link to the main page..if you don’t have it. It’s an amazing web site..they keep the Pentagon honest.
http://icasualties.org/oif/
Frank33 @ 50
She must be trying to get some of Bill Gates’ money.
Steve @ 56
You can get all the Afghanistan info there too.
Steve @ 56
Have to be in a certain frame of mind to read it.
Thank you again.
sofistic: I remember visiting friends in Calif years ago & being warned about proposition 13 type initiations happening in Minnesota. They were very upset with what happened in CA. At that time, it was hard to imagine anything like that could happen to erode our strong education system.
Yo, kids. OT, but there’s a chance that W hissef had a passel of email on those RNC servers. Turns out that the idea that W doesn’t use email is contradicted by earlier reports.
Bad Attitudes notices certain inconsistencies …
Steve @ 45
Now read this article by Scott Ritter in 2004 titled “Squeezing Jello in Iraq”.
This quote towards the end is really a reminder:
“It is a war the United States cannot win, and which the government of Iyad Allawi cannot survive. Unfortunately, since recent polls show that some 70% of the American people support the war in Iraq, it is a war that will rage until the American domestic political dynamic changes, and the tide of public opinion turns against the war.”
Stephen Parrish, CPA @ 54
Oh, my.
And if ABC was holding back names — well, the networks never hold back on accusations against Democrats, no matter how bogus (remember NBC’s Lisa Myers helping to push the “Clinton raped a woman” lie?), so those names are almost certainly not only GOP, but belong to prominent Bush White House figures.
Woo-hoo! Thanks, Stephen!
Oops.
Squeezing Jello in Iraq.
By Scott Ritter.
-GSD
GSD @ 62
Ritter has paid dearly. For being right.
joel hanes @ 61
Ooooh! Got linky?
Wow, looks like today’s the day a whole bunch of stuff’s getting ready to explode all over BushCo’s collective face. First the Palfrey twist, now this!
ironranger @ 60
It wasn’t just Prop 13. At the time, our taxes were very high and seniors were losing their homes. Every time the legislature wanted money, they just taxed homes – it was pretty bad. We now spend 50 per cent of our budget on education and it still isn’t getting much better. That’s really huge and nobody seems to be able to stop the slide. The problem started long before Prop. 13 anyway. I have 4 children and I watched the schools get worse over a long period of time. Don’t know what we can or will do about it.
Phoenix Woman @ 66
I’ve got a sneaky suspicion that the right people that need to know what’s up, already know…The prey can sense when the predators are watching, and they get real nervous and start doing really dumb things that just attract more attention. Time for popcorn and all kinds of snacks coming up I’ll bet.
Twain: So many similar things happening all over this country. Very scary. We’ve got to get more sane, common sense people in office.
ironranger @ 69
I have talked with teachers and they are buying their own supplies for the children. They hardly make enough money to do that and it’s awful to expect them to. The general feeling seems to be that the school system is top heavy – too many vice principals, etc. I think we need to clean house and start all over.
newtonusr @ 59
You are right..it’s been months since I have looked at more than the totals. I just looked at casualties by state. Cal leads the list with 373 dead and total 3045. Five states account for 9701 total; 34% of all casualties.
ironranger @ 69
It’s thinking like this that makes Republics campaign on issues like gay marriage and school prayer. Election year electorate hysteria is the Republic Party’s best bet.
Twain: Minn & Ca, 2 progressive states & just look at the hits our education system is struggling with. It must be an absolute nightmare in the poorest states from what I’ve read.
The tide is actually turning in our favor, folks. The fact that the icky stuff is coming to light is a GOOD THING. Not too long ago, it would still be shoved under the rug.
The fact that we’re hearing about it means that more people are getting over their fear of GOP reprisal, or are working with the Dems in Congress on hearings and oversight.
If Cheney and Bush both say the Executive Order was not meant to apply to them, then don’t they automatically admit that they are still bound by the previous laws that do cover the President and Vice President regarding handling of classified information?
They have just created themselves a Catch-22 haven’t they?
They are now between Iraq and a hardspot.
Badwater @ 72
I’ve said before and I’ll say again, the Republics don’t dare campaign on their true platform or they couldn’t even get elected as dogcatchers. That’s why they have to use the symbology and Orwellian phrasing for their base, otherwise their cook’d.
ironranger @ 73
My sister, an excellent educator with 20 years experience in Michigan with a M.A. moved to an exclusive suburban school and was promply laid off within two years.
By the way, its not much better for educators in Iowa.
(although we beat Nussle for Gov.,who in defeat is the new nominee as OMB Head and was the House Budget Director for the most corrupt congresses in history.
We have a dem gov, and both houses for the first time in ages
Somewhat OT, but war-related
What happened to Rahm Emanuel? Has his brain implanted K-Street Computer Chip, that has controlled all his actions, been removed?
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Rep. Rahm Emanuel (D-Ill.) said he plans to propose next week, as part of a spending bill for executive operations, a measure to place a hold on funds for Cheney’s office and official home until he clarifies to which branch of the government he belongs. Emanuel acknowledged that the proposal is just a stunt, but he said that if Cheney is not part of the executive branch, he should not receive its funds. “As we say in Chicago, follow the money,” he said.
ironranger @ 73
It is. It’s part of the Grover Norquist “starve the beast” plan to starve public entities like government and schools so badly that no one will trust them — then shove for-profit entities down their throats.
This scam has been very popular in the South for over a hundred years, especially where public utilities are concerned. FDR found out about it when he went to Warm Springs, Georgia to let the springs alleviate his polio; he was shocked to find out about the extortinate rates the private utility firms charged down there (the north had faced similar problems from J. P. Morgan and his ilk in the late 19th century, but FDR’s uncle Teddy helped rein them in). He started the Tennessee Valley Authority as a direct result thereof.
Ironranger, I meant to say Minnesota suburb
The spook drags himself out of bed, head throbbing like a runaway nuclear reactor, to post the following victor for everyone in the world, thanks solely to netroots activisim. Guys, this is astonishing. Please read the entire article if you have time, or bookmark it for later.
Netroots Action Terminates UN “broadcast rights” treaty which would have ended creative commons licensing and fair use.
Two small further points, if I may:
1) I am never taking an anti-depressant again. ever.
2) If I offended or insulted anyone in my keyboard tirades of last night, I am deeply sorry and will apologize when I find my cerebrum and cerebellum. Right now, I’m working out of protected neurons in the medula oblongata, where I always store a hardened copy of my core pesonality.
Love to the Lake.
LS @ 75
A-yep.
Alfred Kelgarries @ 82
Alfred – wow! That IS good news! Thanks!
Frank33 @ 79
Now THAT’s how you get Capone!
Phoenix Woman @ 84
And totally unexpected. we expected to lose, badly. The other side actually started to hide the literature we provided behind plants and flush it down toilets (until the management of the conference center stopped that little tactic. glossy paper does not flush well, and the best way to cheese off a bunch of international delegates who already jetlagged and cultureshocked is to stop up their toilets!) They let us post a guard over the docs, and that helped.
We must be vigilant, tho. This little abomination will resurface, no doubt of that…
Hey, PW – I remember Wendall Anderson when he was Governor. Of course, he essentially appointed himself to fill Fritz Mondale’s Senate seat in 1976, and then lost to plywood king Rudy Boschwitz in the next election.
But Minnesota at least stood for good government then.
CA used to rank among the best public education systems. Prop 13 is the single most culpable action that has led to CA becoming among the worst. I’ve lived both ends of that: then, as a student, and now, as a parent. (Fortunately, Berkeley has managed to keep decent quality in its public schools).
Prop 13 tried to address a real problem (property tax inflation on fixed income retirees) but it has also led to huge disparities in property tax basis, and it contributes significantly to “trapping” people into their existing homes. The longer they’ve owned the home, the stronger the incentive not to sell and lose that low tax basis (there is a one-time transfer allowance for over 55 years old who downsize). Essentially, recent home buyers are pulling way more than their weight compared to long-term owners. These owners tend to be older, and their offspring have benefited from the pre-Prop 13 system.
At a macro scale it represents a generational problem of (in)equitable investment in the infrastructure of the state.
Badwater: I recently got another phone survey (1st one was before 2006 election) from the MN repub party. They had the same, exact questions on guns, gays & abortion. I called the MN repub party right after & said I didn’t understand why they aren’t asking questions that 70% of people are worried about such as the war, jobs, health care coverage, etc.
It’s pretty clear repubs will stick to the same game plan & pretend all those other issues that are impacting more & more people don’t exist. I can’t imagine that there will not be a big blowback from fed up voters, at least the moderate conservatives & independents.
Alfred Kelgarries @ 82
Alfred, you were a monster last night, but not a monstrosity. Never seen so much research poured out in one place, at one time. Bravo, Sir!
Your keyboard smolders on.
Feel better.
Alfred, I took no offense at all.
joel hanes @ 61
And here’s the link: http://badattitudes.com/MT/arc…..e_the.html
punaise @ 88
I agree that new owners are carrying most of the burden, but I can’t for the life of me figure how to make it equal. I would think to repeal it would still hurt seniors so what do we do?
newtonusr @ 90
thank you. I haven’t had a drink in ten years due to diabetes, I forgotten what it feels like. Different vector, same results. (shudder). But if I was informative, then my core mission was accomplished.
BTW, here are two small linkys for morning amusement:
Dick Durbin On 4th Branch Claim: “The Administration that has sanctioned torture of individuals is now also sanctioning the torture of logic.”
Dog drives owners car into river after not getting doggy treat it wanted. Film at 11.
TexB @ 91
Thank you TexB. I was lucky. I won’t risk it again.
Mutant Poodle @ 87
Yup. If not for that one false move, the DFL might not have been cast into the wilderness for nigh on three decades.
Yup. Minnesota is (even with GOP pillaging) still a good place to live largely because of the actions of Governors Floyd Olson in the 1930s and Wendy Anderson in the 1970s, along with their state legislatures. They were able to build structures so strong that even the most determined GOP vandals have been unable to take them all down.
Phoenix Woman @ 92
I like the last line about something maybe showing up on google. According to Ralston, Rove used Rove.com, as well as the GWB43 and the other RNC email accounts. Maybe there is a Bush.com or George.com or W.com.
I wonder if W emailed Bandar.
You mean Billion Dollar Bandar Boosh…..
-GSD
Twain @ 93
I agree it can’t be rolled back on current homeowners. One mistake was to include business property in the tax limitation. There have been proposals to rescind that component, but you can imagine that the biz community has not embraced that.
1. Insert Norquisitian comment about strangling business with unfair tax burden here ____ .
2. Counter item 1 with the larger view argument that a better educated work force benefits businesses via a smarter and more productive work force.
Wait. I own a small (recently purchased, highly taxed) business property. Scratch that! Anyway, I’m getting out of my depth withh economic theory.
LS @ 98
I’m guessing they lost that one somehow.
Alfred Kelgarries @ 95
I missed it, but I can’t imagine you fouling the lake waters. Stirring them up, perhaps… :~)
Here’s a very recent ThinkProgress post: Gonzales To Give Speech Co-Sponsored By Prominent Creationism Organization
Whois Rove.com:
http://www.networksolutions.co…..n=rove.com
GSD @ 99
This one..:
http://baltimorechronicle.com/…..loyd.shtml
Ah remember the good old days when the Republics were outraged about Clintonian semantic wordsmithery regarding the meaning of the word “is”. Now they sit in dumbsruck silence as The Vice President for Torture claims that he’s not part of the executive branch.
No morals, no shame.
-GSD
Just speculation….
punaise @ 102
Thank you, punaise. The problem with psychotropic drugs (and Kirk Murphy I’m sure can confirm this) is that they remove your mind from its customary restrictive mechanism, the “moral center” perhaps. And as we all know, inside of us is a little person whose attitudes and ideas are just a bit too raw to be allowed out in public. that little person is not us, but if it gets ahold of the microphone, it can sure gum up the works. The victim of said rampage is then left with a social situation of pure ruin, while the inner little person goes happily back into the id, whistling sofly…
Like I said, never again.
punaise @ 100
Some have suggested raising sales tax. That way the users would pay and the non-users would not. I have a minor in economics but it still defeats me. Just don’t know.
Twain at 109:
Thomas Jefferson preferred a “geometric tax” on wealth.
Hillary and Obama are the biggest money raisers in my party. God I am sick of these two.
OT, but obviously something of great personal interest to the spook:
Possible Vaccine To Halt Alzheimers Deterioration Within 3 Years
Ghod, Ghod, Ghod. PLEASE let it be true…
While Hillary was a Goldwater girl, I was a walkin’, talkin’ votin’ Democrat.
Gore.
amazing what you find when following links….
That is not to say that the Bushist credo lacks all nuance. There is in fact a very important refinement to their wormy greed: Loot should always be obtained without the slightest risk to your own financial position. The “free market” must be shunned at all costs — and manipulated by string-pulling, deceit and intimidation when competition is unavoidable. Thus the Bush model is to cozy up to governments — preferably strongman regimes free to ladle out public money to their favorites with no questions asked.
That’s why Bush patriarch Prescott, pa and grandpa to presidents, invested heavily in Nazi war industries throughout the 1930s — and kept on investing even after the German war machine was grinding through Europe. That’s why George I made his mogul bones by pumping oil with repressive royals in Kuwait. Later, when he had a government of his own to play with, George sent U.S. troops to bail out his Kuwaiti partners after another of his business clients, Saddam Hussein, got too frisky in a border dispute. George I would end his career as a corporate bagman, roaming the Earth in search of insider deals and choice “privatizations” from Saudi princes, Asian dictators, African tyrants, South American sleaze merchants and Europork peddlers.
George II’s murky road to fortune was likewise paved with insider trading, no-risk loans and mysterious infusions of foreign cash, including a bailout from a firm embedded in the octopus of BCCI — the renegade banking cartel that the U.S. Senate called the “largest criminal organization in world history,” which cloaked drug deals, gun-running, nuke trafficking and “black ops” by the CIA and other intelligence services behind a protective wall of bribes that reached into nearly every government on Earth.
http://www.chris-floyd.com/Art…..h_Dynasty/
or am i late to the party?
Alfred Kelgarries @ 112
amen!
Kathryn in MA @ 116
Unfortunately it is six years, BUT if trials go well that can be speeded up considerably. Hoping…
OT from Reuters via NYTimes. BP shuts 10k BPD pipleine in Prudhoe Bay due to leak…
Kathryn in MA @ 115
No, you’re right on time. Many of us are aware of the proclivities of the Bu$hCo Crime Family. What they are forgetting is that, like it or not, within this century we will have a unified set of global rules dealing with this sort of crap. When that happens, when there are no more safe havens, look for BC to melt like the wicked witch in the rain.
Hillary wants only my vote and my money. Then I can go to hell.
I’m torn on Prop. 13, it does seem fair.
What if you bought a small place in Palo Alto 30 years ago. You’ve slowly been paying it off. Should you really have to pay steadily increasing property taxes on what is now a multi-million dollar property?
This wouldn’t just price out the elderly, anyone whose home doubled in value over the last 5 years would suffer a huge increase, too, and that’s alot of us in California.
In some parts of Orange County, one of the ways Prop. 13 was gotten around was a Mello-Roos tax.
When I lived in Sacramento, I voted against Prop 13. I’d do the same today.
Kathryn in MA @ 115
Exactly on time, except you left out the part about the North American Corporate Union, that will replace the outdated piece of paper, the Constitution.
Blue America upstairs, dogs.
Congresswoman Hilda Solis!
ironranger @ 28
Yup, that sounds like Our Tim.
Whew! don’t want to be a fauxpax. and here i thought Carlyle was the ultimate in world domination – is BCCI even worse?
Kathryn: Here is the link to Wikipedia: BCCI
sofistic @ 127
thank you!
The DFL (Minnesotan for Democratic Party) didn’t “take back” the State Senate in 2006; rather, we increased the majority we already had. The state house was taken back in 2006, after gains in 2004 that came close.
Don’t forget…for the first time in 31 years, MN has beat the national unemployment rate. C’mon, bidness! We’re waitin’ fer ya..here in good ole Timmy’s tax-free zone.
I’m glad he’s hitched his wagon train to McCain…couldn’t have done a dumber thing.
Ironranger@28…I saw Timmy’s picture up at the Montana Cafe in Cook (taken a couple of years ago when he went to Vermilion for the opener)…yikes…those old “IronRidgers” weren’t too happy to have their pics taken with him. We talked to the waitress there…she was none too pleased about Timmy coming into their place. I’ve got a place on Vermilion…taxes are kinda high for Timmy. I don’t think he’d like paying them. Maybe you could find a nice hunting shack near a swamp for him.
Growing up on the iron range in the 60’s and 70’s I remember how good the education system was. I moved to Texas 15 years ago and use to brag about Minnesota and how much better and more progressive it use to be. I can’t do that anymore. It is such a different State than the one I left. It saddens me when I go home for a visit